Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][kolla-kubernete][tc][openstack-helm]propose retire kolla-kubernetes project

2018-03-31 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2018-03-31 18:06:07 + (+), Steven Dake (stdake) wrote: > I appreciate your personal interest in attempting to clarify the > Kolla mission statement. > > The change in the Kolla mission statement you propose is > unnecessary. [...] I should probably have been more clear. The Kolla

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][kolla-kubernete][tc][openstack-helm]propose retire kolla-kubernetes project

2018-03-31 Thread Michał Jastrzębski
So my take on the issue. I think splitting Kolla and Kolla-Ansible to completely new project (including name change and all) might look good from purity perspective (they're effectively separate), but would cause chaos and damage to production deployments people use. While code will be the same,

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][kolla-kubernete][tc][openstack-helm]propose retire kolla-kubernetes project

2018-03-31 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
On March 31, 2018 at 6:45:03 AM, Jeremy Stanley (fu...@yuggoth.org) wrote: [...] Given this, it sounds like the current Kolla mission statement of "provide production-ready containers and deployment tools for operating OpenStack clouds" could use some adjustment to drop

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][kolla-kubernete][tc][openstack-helm]propose retire kolla-kubernetes project

2018-03-31 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2018-03-31 03:13:01 + (+), Steven Dake (stdake) wrote: [...] > When contributors joined the Kolla project, we had a clear mission > of providing containers and deployment tools. Our ultimate > objective was to make deployment *EASY* and solve from my > perspective as PTL at the time

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][kolla-kubernete][tc][openstack-helm]propose retire kolla-kubernetes project

2018-03-30 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
On March 30, 2018 at 2:17:09 AM, Thierry Carrez (thie...@openstack.org) wrote: There is a 3rd option, which I've been advocating for a while. The tension here lies in the fact that the Kolla team is both a low-level provider (Kolla the docker image provider) and a

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][kolla-kubernete][tc][openstack-helm]propose retire kolla-kubernetes project

2018-03-30 Thread Thierry Carrez
Richard Wellum wrote: > So as a current Kolla-Kubernetes Core - I have a slightly different > opinion than most, I'll try to verbalize it coherently. Thanks Rich for posting this -- I was really feeling like we missed part of the story. > Lets talk about what Kolla is: > > Kolla is a project

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][kolla-kubernete][tc][openstack-helm]propose retire kolla-kubernetes project

2018-03-29 Thread Richard Wellum
On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 8:14 PM Surya Singh wrote: > Dear All, > > Thanks Rich for putting thoughts on continuation with kolla-k8s. > > > On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 2:26 AM, Richard Wellum > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > So as a current

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][kolla-kubernete][tc][openstack-helm]propose retire kolla-kubernetes project

2018-03-29 Thread Richard Wellum
Hi Gema, On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 2:48 PM Gema Gomez wrote: > > > On 29/03/18 18:26, Richard Wellum wrote: > > Hi, > > > > So as a current Kolla-Kubernetes Core - I have a slightly different > > opinion than most, I'll try to verbalize it coherently. > > > > Lets talk about what

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][kolla-kubernete][tc][openstack-helm]propose retire kolla-kubernetes project

2018-03-29 Thread Surya Singh
Dear All, Thanks Rich for putting thoughts on continuation with kolla-k8s. On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 2:26 AM, Richard Wellum wrote: > > Hi, > > So as a current Kolla-Kubernetes Core - I have a slightly different opinion > than most, I'll try to verbalize it coherently. > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][kolla-kubernete][tc][openstack-helm]propose retire kolla-kubernetes project

2018-03-29 Thread Gema Gomez
On 29/03/18 18:26, Richard Wellum wrote: > Hi, > > So as a current Kolla-Kubernetes Core - I have a slightly different > opinion than most, I'll try to verbalize it coherently. > > Lets talk about what Kolla is: > > Kolla is a project that builds OpenStack docker images, stores them on >

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][kolla-kubernete][tc][openstack-helm]propose retire kolla-kubernetes project

2018-03-29 Thread Richard Wellum
Hi, So as a current Kolla-Kubernetes Core - I have a slightly different opinion than most, I'll try to verbalize it coherently. Lets talk about what Kolla is: Kolla is a project that builds OpenStack docker images, stores them on dockerhub, and provides tools to build your own images from your

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][kolla-kubernete][tc][openstack-helm]propose retire kolla-kubernetes project

2018-03-28 Thread Chuck Short
+1 Regards chuck On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 11:47 AM, Jeffrey Zhang wrote: > There are two projects to solve the issue that run OpenStack on > Kubernetes, OpenStack-helm, and kolla-kubernetes. Them both > leverage helm tool for orchestration. There is some different

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][kolla-kubernete][tc][openstack-helm]propose retire kolla-kubernetes project

2018-03-28 Thread MCEUEN, MATT
in #openstack-helm if you'd like to get looped in. Thanks, Matt -Original Message- From: Paul Bourke [mailto:paul.bou...@oracle.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 11:17 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][kolla-kubernete][tc][openstack-helm]propose

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][kolla-kubernete][tc][openstack-helm]propose retire kolla-kubernetes project

2018-03-28 Thread 楊睿豪
+1 To consolidate them > Paul Bourke 於 2018年3月29日 上午12:16 寫道: > > +1 > > Thanks Jeffrey for taking the time to investigate. > >> On 28/03/18 16:47, Jeffrey Zhang wrote: >> There are two projects to solve the issue that run OpenStack on >> Kubernetes, OpenStack-helm,

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][kolla-kubernete][tc][openstack-helm]propose retire kolla-kubernetes project

2018-03-28 Thread Paul Bourke
+1 Thanks Jeffrey for taking the time to investigate. On 28/03/18 16:47, Jeffrey Zhang wrote: There are two projects to solve the issue that run OpenStack on Kubernetes, OpenStack-helm, and kolla-kubernetes. Them both leverage helm tool for orchestration. There is some different perspective at

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][kolla-kubernete][tc][openstack-helm]propose retire kolla-kubernetes project

2018-03-28 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1 to consolidate. Thanks, Dims On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 11:47 AM, Jeffrey Zhang wrote: > There are two projects to solve the issue that run OpenStack on > Kubernetes, OpenStack-helm, and kolla-kubernetes. Them both > leverage helm tool for orchestration. There is some

[openstack-dev] [kolla][kolla-kubernete][tc][openstack-helm]propose retire kolla-kubernetes project

2018-03-28 Thread Jeffrey Zhang
There are two projects to solve the issue that run OpenStack on Kubernetes, OpenStack-helm, and kolla-kubernetes. Them both leverage helm tool for orchestration. There is some different perspective at the beginning, which results in the two teams could not work together. But recently, the