Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] [Murano] [Solum] applications in the cloud

2014-04-16 Thread Thomas Spatzier
Hi Ruslan, From: Ruslan Kamaldinov rkamaldi...@mirantis.com To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: 16/04/2014 00:38 Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] [Murano] [Solum] applications inthe cloud Update: Stan filed

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] [Murano] [Solum] applications in the cloud

2014-04-15 Thread Ruslan Kamaldinov
To: openstack-dev openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: 04/04/2014 19:06 Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] [Murano] [Solum] applications inthe cloud Excerpts from Stan Lagun's message of 2014-04-04 02:54:05 -0700: Hi Steve, Thomas I'm glad the discussion is so constructive! If we add

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] [Murano] [Solum] applications in the cloud

2014-04-05 Thread Thomas Spatzier
Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote on 04/04/2014 19:05:04: From: Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com To: openstack-dev openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: 04/04/2014 19:06 Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] [Murano] [Solum] applications inthe cloud Excerpts from Stan Lagun's message of 2014-04

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] [Murano] [Solum] applications in the cloud

2014-04-04 Thread Thomas Spatzier
sba...@redhat.com wrote on 04/04/2014 06:12:38: From: Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: 04/04/2014 06:14 Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] [Murano] [Solum] applications inthe cloud On 03/04/14 13:04, Georgy Okrokvertskhov wrote: Hi Steve, I think

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] [Murano] [Solum] applications in the cloud

2014-04-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Stan Lagun's message of 2014-04-04 02:54:05 -0700: Hi Steve, Thomas I'm glad the discussion is so constructive! If we add type interfaces to HOT this may do the job. Applications in AppCatalog need to be portable across OpenStack clouds. Thus if we use some globally-unique

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] [Murano] [Solum] applications in the cloud

2014-04-04 Thread Stan Lagun
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 9:05 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: IMO that is not really true and trying to stick all these databases into one SQL database interface is not a use case I'm interested in pursuing. Indeed. Any SQL database is a useless interface. What I was trying to say is

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] [Murano] [Solum] applications in the cloud

2014-04-03 Thread Dmitry
I'm trying to think how the process is looks like from the application provider point of view. As application provider I need to: 1) Develop a new application, using 3rd party components (DB, Application Container, Cache, Messaging etc). 2) Build and test my application 2) Upload the deployment

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] [Murano] [Solum] applications in the cloud

2014-04-03 Thread Steve Baker
On 03/04/14 13:04, Georgy Okrokvertskhov wrote: Hi Steve, I think this is exactly the place where we have a boundary between Murano catalog and HOT. In your example one can use abstract resource type and specify a correct implementation via environment file. This is how it will be done on

[openstack-dev] [Heat] [Murano] [Solum] applications in the cloud

2014-04-02 Thread Ruslan Kamaldinov
This is a continuation of the MuranoPL questions thread. As a result of ongoing discussions, we figured out that definition of layers which each project operates on and has responsibility for is not yet agreed and discussed between projects and teams (Heat, Murano, Solum (in alphabetical order)).

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] [Murano] [Solum] applications in the cloud

2014-04-02 Thread Steve Baker
On 03/04/14 10:39, Ruslan Kamaldinov wrote: This is a continuation of the MuranoPL questions thread. As a result of ongoing discussions, we figured out that definition of layers which each project operates on and has responsibility for is not yet agreed and discussed between projects and