Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Heat Juno Mid-cycle Meetup report

2014-08-28 Thread Jyoti Ranjan
Yes, after version and agent ensuring to pick correct data will not cause Swift issue. On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 2:59 AM, Steve Baker wrote: > On 28/08/14 03:41, Zane Bitter wrote: > > On 27/08/14 11:04, Steven Hardy wrote: > >> On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 07:54:41PM +0530, Jyoti Ranjan wrote: > >>>

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Heat Juno Mid-cycle Meetup report

2014-08-27 Thread Steve Baker
On 28/08/14 03:41, Zane Bitter wrote: > On 27/08/14 11:04, Steven Hardy wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 07:54:41PM +0530, Jyoti Ranjan wrote: >>> I am little bit skeptical about using Swift for this use case >>> because of >>> its eventual consistency issue. I am not sure Swift cluster is

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Heat Juno Mid-cycle Meetup report

2014-08-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steven Hardy's message of 2014-08-27 10:08:36 -0700: > On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 09:40:31AM -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: > > Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-08-27 08:41:29 -0700: > > > On 27/08/14 11:04, Steven Hardy wrote: > > > > On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 07:54:41PM +0530, Jyot

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Heat Juno Mid-cycle Meetup report

2014-08-27 Thread Steven Hardy
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 09:40:31AM -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: > Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-08-27 08:41:29 -0700: > > On 27/08/14 11:04, Steven Hardy wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 07:54:41PM +0530, Jyoti Ranjan wrote: > > >> I am little bit skeptical about using Swift for

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Heat Juno Mid-cycle Meetup report

2014-08-27 Thread Steven Hardy
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 11:41:29AM -0400, Zane Bitter wrote: > On 27/08/14 11:04, Steven Hardy wrote: > >On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 07:54:41PM +0530, Jyoti Ranjan wrote: > >>I am little bit skeptical about using Swift for this use case because of > >>its eventual consistency issue. I am not su

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Heat Juno Mid-cycle Meetup report

2014-08-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-08-27 08:41:29 -0700: > On 27/08/14 11:04, Steven Hardy wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 07:54:41PM +0530, Jyoti Ranjan wrote: > >> I am little bit skeptical about using Swift for this use case because > >> of > >> its eventual consistency issu

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Heat Juno Mid-cycle Meetup report

2014-08-27 Thread Ryan Brown
Swift does have some guarantees around read-after-write consistency, but for Heat I think the best bet would be the X-Newest[1] header which has been in swift for a very, very long time. The downside here is that (IIUC) it queries all storage nodes for that object. It does not provide a hard guaran

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Heat Juno Mid-cycle Meetup report

2014-08-27 Thread Zane Bitter
On 27/08/14 11:04, Steven Hardy wrote: On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 07:54:41PM +0530, Jyoti Ranjan wrote: I am little bit skeptical about using Swift for this use case because of its eventual consistency issue. I am not sure Swift cluster is good to be used for this kind of problem. Pleas

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Heat Juno Mid-cycle Meetup report

2014-08-27 Thread Steven Hardy
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 07:54:41PM +0530, Jyoti Ranjan wrote: >I am little bit skeptical about using Swift for this use case because of >its eventual consistency issue. I am not sure Swift cluster is good to be >used for this kind of problem. Please note that Swift cluster may give you

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Heat Juno Mid-cycle Meetup report

2014-08-27 Thread Jyoti Ranjan
I am little bit skeptical about using Swift for this use case because of its eventual consistency issue. I am not sure Swift cluster is good to be used for this kind of problem. Please note that Swift cluster may give you old data at some point of time. On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Steven Har

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Heat Juno Mid-cycle Meetup report

2014-08-27 Thread Steven Hardy
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 02:39:09PM +0530, Jyoti Ranjan wrote: >I am curious to know about Swift role here. Can you elaborate little bit >please? I think Zane already covered it with "We just want people to stop polling us, because it's killing our performance". Basically, if we provide t

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Heat Juno Mid-cycle Meetup report

2014-08-27 Thread Jyoti Ranjan
I am curious to know about Swift role here. Can you elaborate little bit please? On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 4:14 AM, Steve Baker wrote: > On 23/08/14 07:39, Zane Bitter wrote: > > We held the inaugural Heat mid-cycle meetup in Raleigh, North Carolina > > this week. There were a dozen folks in atte

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Heat Juno Mid-cycle Meetup report

2014-08-26 Thread Steve Baker
On 23/08/14 07:39, Zane Bitter wrote: > We held the inaugural Heat mid-cycle meetup in Raleigh, North Carolina > this week. There were a dozen folks in attendance, and I think > everyone agreed that it was a very successful event. Notes from the > meetup are on the Etherpad here: > > https://etherp

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Heat Juno Mid-cycle Meetup report

2014-08-26 Thread Steven Hardy
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 03:39:24PM -0400, Zane Bitter wrote: > We held the inaugural Heat mid-cycle meetup in Raleigh, North Carolina this > week. There were a dozen folks in attendance, and I think everyone agreed > that it was a very successful event. Notes from the meetup are on the > Etherpad h

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Heat Juno Mid-cycle Meetup report

2014-08-25 Thread Zane Bitter
On 25/08/14 05:21, Thierry Carrez wrote: Zane Bitter wrote: [...] Here are a few of the conclusions: * Everyone wishes the Design Summit worked like this. The meetup seemed a lot more productive than the design summit ever is. It's really nice to be in a room small enough that you can talk norm

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Heat Juno Mid-cycle Meetup report

2014-08-25 Thread Thierry Carrez
Zane Bitter wrote: > [...] > Here are a few of the conclusions: > > * Everyone wishes the Design Summit worked like this. > The meetup seemed a lot more productive than the design summit ever is. > It's really nice to be in a room small enough that you can talk normally > and hear everyone, instea

[openstack-dev] [Heat] Heat Juno Mid-cycle Meetup report

2014-08-22 Thread Zane Bitter
We held the inaugural Heat mid-cycle meetup in Raleigh, North Carolina this week. There were a dozen folks in attendance, and I think everyone agreed that it was a very successful event. Notes from the meetup are on the Etherpad here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-juno-midcycle-meetup