Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Node groups and multi-node operations

2014-01-27 Thread Robert Collins
On 27 January 2014 18:08, Joshua Harlow harlo...@yahoo-inc.com wrote: Thanks, guess this is entering the realm of scheduling group scheduling and how just the right level of information is needed to do efficient group scheduling in nova/ironic vs the new/upcoming gantt service. To me

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Node groups and multi-node operations

2014-01-26 Thread Devananda van der Veen
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 7:11 AM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2014-01-25 02:47:42 -0800: On 25 January 2014 19:42, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2014-01-24 18:48:41 -0800: However, in

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Node groups and multi-node operations

2014-01-26 Thread Joshua Harlow
Doesn't nova already have logic for creating N virtual machines (similar to a group) in the same request? I thought it did (maybe it doesn't anymore in the v3 API), creating N bare metal machines seems like it would comply to that api? Sent from my really tiny device... On Jan 22, 2014, at

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Node groups and multi-node operations

2014-01-26 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Devananda van der Veen's message of 2014-01-26 10:27:36 -0800: On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 7:11 AM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2014-01-25 02:47:42 -0800: On 25 January 2014 19:42, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Node groups and multi-node operations

2014-01-26 Thread Robert Collins
On 27 January 2014 08:04, Joshua Harlow harlo...@yahoo-inc.com wrote: Doesn't nova already have logic for creating N virtual machines (similar to a group) in the same request? I thought it did (maybe it doesn't anymore in the v3 API), creating N bare metal machines seems like it would comply

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Node groups and multi-node operations

2014-01-26 Thread Joshua Harlow
Thanks, guess this is entering the realm of scheduling group scheduling and how just the right level of information is needed to do efficient group scheduling in nova/ironic vs the new/upcoming gantt service. To me splitting it into N single requests isn't group scheduling but is just more

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Node groups and multi-node operations

2014-01-25 Thread Robert Collins
On 25 January 2014 19:42, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2014-01-24 18:48:41 -0800: However, in looking at how Ironic works and interacts with Nova, it doesn't seem like there is any distinction of data per-compute-node inside Ironic. So for

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Node groups and multi-node operations

2014-01-25 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2014-01-25 02:47:42 -0800: On 25 January 2014 19:42, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2014-01-24 18:48:41 -0800: However, in looking at how Ironic works and interacts with Nova, it doesn't seem like

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Node groups and multi-node operations

2014-01-24 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Devananda van der Veen's message of 2014-01-22 16:44:01 -0800: 1: physical vs. logical grouping - Some hardware is logically, but not strictly physically, grouped. Eg, 1U servers in the same rack. There is some grouping, such as failure domain, but operations on discrete nodes

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Node groups and multi-node operations

2014-01-24 Thread Robert Collins
On 25 Jan 2014 15:11, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Devananda van der Veen's message of 2014-01-22 16:44:01 -0800: What Tuskar wants to do is layer workloads on top of logical and physical groupings. So it would pass to Nova Boot 4 machines with (flavor) and

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Node groups and multi-node operations

2014-01-24 Thread Robert Collins
On 23 Jan 2014 13:45, Devananda van der Veen devananda@gmail.com wrote: So, a conversation came again up today around whether or not Ironic will, in the future, support operations on groups of nodes. Some folks have expressed a desire for Ironic to expose operations on groups of nodes;

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Node groups and multi-node operations

2014-01-24 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2014-01-24 18:48:41 -0800: On 25 Jan 2014 15:11, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Devananda van der Veen's message of 2014-01-22 16:44:01 -0800: What Tuskar wants to do is layer workloads on top of logical and physical

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Node groups and multi-node operations

2014-01-23 Thread Lucas Alvares Gomes
So, a conversation came again up today around whether or not Ironic will, in the future, support operations on groups of nodes. Some folks have expressed a desire for Ironic to expose operations on groups of nodes; others want Ironic to host the hardware-grouping data so that eg. Heat and

[openstack-dev] [Ironic] Node groups and multi-node operations

2014-01-22 Thread Devananda van der Veen
So, a conversation came again up today around whether or not Ironic will, in the future, support operations on groups of nodes. Some folks have expressed a desire for Ironic to expose operations on groups of nodes; others want Ironic to host the hardware-grouping data so that eg. Heat and Tuskar