[openstack-dev] [Manila] Midcycle meetup
As of now we're planning to hold our midcycle meetup in virtually on June 28, 29, and possibly June 30 (depending on agenda). If any core reviewers or significant contributors can't attend those days please let me know. Also if anyone wants to travel to RTP to join those of us based here I also need to know so I can get a space reserved. Given the geographic spread of the team I'm prioritizing remote participation though. -Ben Swartzlander __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Manila] Midcycle meetup
https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-mitaka-midcycle Clinton On 1/13/16, 9:51 AM, "Luis Pabon" wrote: >Is there a link to the topics or schedule? > >- Luis > >- Original Message - >From: "Ben Swartzlander" >To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" > >Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 8:25:55 PM >Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Manila] Midcycle meetup > >On 12/04/2015 04:42 PM, Ben Swartzlander wrote: >> On 11/19/2015 01:00 PM, Ben Swartzlander wrote: >>> If you planning to attend the midcycle in any capacity, please vote >>>your >>> preferences here: >>> >>> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/BXPLDXT >> >> The results of the survey were clear. Most people prefer the week of Jan >> 12-14. >> >> There was an offer to host in Roseville, CA by HP (thanks HP) but at the >> meeting yesterday most people still preferred the RTP site, so we will >> be planning on hosting the meeting in RTP that week, unless someone >> absolutely can't make that week. >> >> What remains to be decided is whether we do Tuesday+Wednesday or >> Wednesday+Thursday. We've tried both, and the 2 day length has worked >> out very well. I personally lean towards Wednesday+Thursday, but please >> reply back to me or the list if you have a different preference. >> >> We need to finalize the dates so people can make travel arrangements. >> I'll set the deadline to decide by Tuesday Dec 8 so people will have 5 >> week to make travel plans. > >Okay it's final -- we will hold the midcycle meetup on Jan 13-14 at >NetApp's RTP office. > >-Ben > > >>> -Ben >>> >>> >>> >>>__ >>> >>> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) >>> Unsubscribe: >>> openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe >>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >> >> >> >>_ >>_ >> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) >> Unsubscribe: >>openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > >__ >OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) >Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe >http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > >__ >OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) >Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe >http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Manila] Midcycle meetup
https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-mitaka-midcycle On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Luis Pabon wrote: > Is there a link to the topics or schedule? > > - Luis > > - Original Message - > From: "Ben Swartzlander" > To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" < > openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org> > Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 8:25:55 PM > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Manila] Midcycle meetup > > On 12/04/2015 04:42 PM, Ben Swartzlander wrote: > > On 11/19/2015 01:00 PM, Ben Swartzlander wrote: > >> If you planning to attend the midcycle in any capacity, please vote your > >> preferences here: > >> > >> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/BXPLDXT > > > > The results of the survey were clear. Most people prefer the week of Jan > > 12-14. > > > > There was an offer to host in Roseville, CA by HP (thanks HP) but at the > > meeting yesterday most people still preferred the RTP site, so we will > > be planning on hosting the meeting in RTP that week, unless someone > > absolutely can't make that week. > > > > What remains to be decided is whether we do Tuesday+Wednesday or > > Wednesday+Thursday. We've tried both, and the 2 day length has worked > > out very well. I personally lean towards Wednesday+Thursday, but please > > reply back to me or the list if you have a different preference. > > > > We need to finalize the dates so people can make travel arrangements. > > I'll set the deadline to decide by Tuesday Dec 8 so people will have 5 > > week to make travel plans. > > Okay it's final -- we will hold the midcycle meetup on Jan 13-14 at > NetApp's RTP office. > > -Ben > > > >> -Ben > >> > >> > __ > >> > >> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > >> Unsubscribe: > >> openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > > > > > > __ > > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > > Unsubscribe: > openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > > __ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > __ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > -- Kind Regards Valeriy Ponomaryov www.mirantis.com vponomar...@mirantis.com __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Manila] Midcycle meetup
Is there a link to the topics or schedule? - Luis - Original Message - From: "Ben Swartzlander" To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 8:25:55 PM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Manila] Midcycle meetup On 12/04/2015 04:42 PM, Ben Swartzlander wrote: > On 11/19/2015 01:00 PM, Ben Swartzlander wrote: >> If you planning to attend the midcycle in any capacity, please vote your >> preferences here: >> >> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/BXPLDXT > > The results of the survey were clear. Most people prefer the week of Jan > 12-14. > > There was an offer to host in Roseville, CA by HP (thanks HP) but at the > meeting yesterday most people still preferred the RTP site, so we will > be planning on hosting the meeting in RTP that week, unless someone > absolutely can't make that week. > > What remains to be decided is whether we do Tuesday+Wednesday or > Wednesday+Thursday. We've tried both, and the 2 day length has worked > out very well. I personally lean towards Wednesday+Thursday, but please > reply back to me or the list if you have a different preference. > > We need to finalize the dates so people can make travel arrangements. > I'll set the deadline to decide by Tuesday Dec 8 so people will have 5 > week to make travel plans. Okay it's final -- we will hold the midcycle meetup on Jan 13-14 at NetApp's RTP office. -Ben >> -Ben >> >> __ >> >> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) >> Unsubscribe: >> openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > > __ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Manila] Midcycle meetup
On 12/04/2015 04:42 PM, Ben Swartzlander wrote: On 11/19/2015 01:00 PM, Ben Swartzlander wrote: If you planning to attend the midcycle in any capacity, please vote your preferences here: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/BXPLDXT The results of the survey were clear. Most people prefer the week of Jan 12-14. There was an offer to host in Roseville, CA by HP (thanks HP) but at the meeting yesterday most people still preferred the RTP site, so we will be planning on hosting the meeting in RTP that week, unless someone absolutely can't make that week. What remains to be decided is whether we do Tuesday+Wednesday or Wednesday+Thursday. We've tried both, and the 2 day length has worked out very well. I personally lean towards Wednesday+Thursday, but please reply back to me or the list if you have a different preference. We need to finalize the dates so people can make travel arrangements. I'll set the deadline to decide by Tuesday Dec 8 so people will have 5 week to make travel plans. Okay it's final -- we will hold the midcycle meetup on Jan 13-14 at NetApp's RTP office. -Ben -Ben __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Manila] Midcycle meetup
On 11/19/2015 01:00 PM, Ben Swartzlander wrote: If you planning to attend the midcycle in any capacity, please vote your preferences here: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/BXPLDXT The results of the survey were clear. Most people prefer the week of Jan 12-14. There was an offer to host in Roseville, CA by HP (thanks HP) but at the meeting yesterday most people still preferred the RTP site, so we will be planning on hosting the meeting in RTP that week, unless someone absolutely can't make that week. What remains to be decided is whether we do Tuesday+Wednesday or Wednesday+Thursday. We've tried both, and the 2 day length has worked out very well. I personally lean towards Wednesday+Thursday, but please reply back to me or the list if you have a different preference. We need to finalize the dates so people can make travel arrangements. I'll set the deadline to decide by Tuesday Dec 8 so people will have 5 week to make travel plans. -Ben __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
[openstack-dev] [Manila] Midcycle meetup survey
If you planning to attend the midcycle in any capacity, please vote your preferences here: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/BXPLDXT -Ben __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
[openstack-dev] [Manila] Midcycle meetup highlights
Thanks to all of those who attended the midcycle. We had more than 20 attendees this cycle and excellent participation -- also some new faces! My apologies for the Google Hangouts failure. We ended up switching to Webex for the audio/video conferencing and it scaled significantly better. I expect that we'll be using Webex for future meetups as well so if you have technical difficulties related to Webex, please try to get them fixed or seek help from the rest of us. It *is* possible to get webex to run on Linux but it's somewhat more complex. Since we did not have a dedicated note taker there are no minutes for the meetup, but I'll summarize what I consider to be the highlights: Migration - Rodrigo (ganso) has done a great job of driving this forward. The current patchset is based on share instances (a new concept we decided to introduce earlier in the release to benefit both migration and replication) and is ready for review. The feature will be considered experimental in Liberty at best, due to some remaining unsolved problems: 1) Share servers with segmented network interfaces can't be directly mounted -- we need a new admin-facing network patch to support this. 2) Data copy is done in the manager service and needs to be moved to a data copy service for better scalability. 3) Generic driver needs some work before it can support migrations. Availability Zones - This was a feature which was proposed after Vancouver. The design in Manila is largely inherited from Cinder, but improvements have been made by Igor (u_glide). These are done and ready to merge. AZs will benefit share replication and also give end users control of the locality of their data w.r.t. consumers of the data (compute instances). Replication - I presented the current thinking on replication, which is a significant deviation from what I presented in Vancouver. The changes are all related to the significantly better user experience offered by AZ support, and better implementation made possible by share instances. There is a new API proposal, changes to the DB schema, and a draft proposal for the driver interface. Work is proceeding on replication but won't be mergeable until after the feature freeze so the plan is to land the feature first thing in Mitaka. Manila CI - We discussed the state of vendor CI, reiterating the deadlines and offers for help. Andrew (akerr) presented how NetApp implements their 3rd party CI system while Silvan (kaisers) presented an alternative CI system called sos-ci written by Duncan (DuncanT) and John (jgriffith). Minimum Required Features - The key topic was snapshots and how vendors support them. We decided to relax the requirement that all drivers support the current snapshot API and to instead make the existing snapshot API an optional feature in Liberty. This change was essential to avoid needlessly removing several Manila drivers that implement the API except for snapshots. We agreed to look at possible alternative snapshot APIs in the future for snapshots that have different semantics, including a possible revert-share-to-snapshot API and an API to directly export snapshots as read-only shares (in Mitaka). Tempest - Marc (mkoderer) gave an update on how the Tempest project is evolving and now Manila can continue to use it for functional/scenario tests. Manauls - I declared that Liberty is the release where Manila will be included in the OpenStack manuals (docs.openstack.org). Help will be needed from the whole core team and others invested in the success of Manila to meet this goal by the Liberty release. API Microversions - Clinton (cknight) presented an example of the new cross-project proposal for finer-grained versioning and described how easy it will be to add this enhancement to Manila and how it will free us up from having to make difficult API-compatibility decisions in the future as we enhance the Manila API. Versioned Objects - Chen (chen12) gave an update on this topic from Vancouver and we agreed that it's a valuable feature to keep our eyes on, but not something we want to aim for getting in to Liberty. The existing nova work is not something we can borrow directly and the Cinder work is ongoing. The team agreed that it would be better to see how it turns out in Cinder before we copy the idea. Driver Private Data - Igor (u_glide) presented this great enhancement for drivers mostly to raise awareness of the cool driver features that it enables. It was also suggested that this would be a great feature to backport to Cinder. Common Capabilities - We discussed how some very simple capabilities/extra specs are already starting to have multiple conflicting/confusing names and implementations and how we need to a decision making process to enforce conformity for capabilities where compatible implementations are possible. We agreed that the common capabilities need to be written down in the dev docs and that thin/
[openstack-dev] [Manila] Midcycle meetup next week
This is just a reminder that the Manila midcycle meetup is next week (July 29-30). Please add your name to the etherpad if you intend to join! If you have a topic to discuss it's not too late to suggest it. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-liberty-midcycle-meetup -Ben Swartzlander __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
[openstack-dev] [Manila] Midcycle meetup dates
The Manila midcycle meetup will be July 29-30 at NetApp's office in Durham North Carolina. For those who can't attend in person there will be video conference (subject to limited slots) and audio conference. We will work on the agenda for the meetup in coming weeks. -Ben Swartzlander __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Manila] Midcycle meetup dates
On 30.05.2015 16:11, Ben Swartzlander wrote: > What remains to be decided: > > Week of July 20-24 or week of July 27-31? Both fine for me, but I can't join in person. > Which days of the week? Wed-Thu would be good. __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Manila] Midcycle meetup dates
Week of July 27-31 works better for me. I'd vote for Wed-Thu, but other days should work. From: Ben Swartzlander [b...@swartzlander.org] Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 7:11 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: [openstack-dev] [Manila] Midcycle meetup dates We are going to have a Manila midcycle meetup this summer before the L-2 milestone. NetApp is volunteering their RTP office to host the meetup. We will have a google hangout again this time to include those who can't join in person, but I would encourage everyone to participate locally if you can, because it's a lot more productive to have face to face discussions. What remains to be decided: Week of July 20-24 or week of July 27-31? Which days of the week? I know that there are conflicts with both of the above weeks, so we may not be able to accommodate everyone. Please let me know (either by IRC or mail) if you want to attend the meetup but one of those above times doesn't work for you. I think 2 days is a good amount of time for the meetup. Last time we did 1.5 days, and it worked out pretty well. We have more to talk about this time around (IMO) so I'm willing to dedicate 2 whole days (experience has shown that 3 days tends to lead to burnout). I would lean towards Tuesday-Wednesday or Wednesday-Thursday, but if someone has a good argument for other days I'm open to ideas. -Ben Swartzlander __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
[openstack-dev] [Manila] Midcycle meetup dates
We are going to have a Manila midcycle meetup this summer before the L-2 milestone. NetApp is volunteering their RTP office to host the meetup. We will have a google hangout again this time to include those who can't join in person, but I would encourage everyone to participate locally if you can, because it's a lot more productive to have face to face discussions. What remains to be decided: Week of July 20-24 or week of July 27-31? Which days of the week? I know that there are conflicts with both of the above weeks, so we may not be able to accommodate everyone. Please let me know (either by IRC or mail) if you want to attend the meetup but one of those above times doesn't work for you. I think 2 days is a good amount of time for the meetup. Last time we did 1.5 days, and it worked out pretty well. We have more to talk about this time around (IMO) so I'm willing to dedicate 2 whole days (experience has shown that 3 days tends to lead to burnout). I would lean towards Tuesday-Wednesday or Wednesday-Thursday, but if someone has a good argument for other days I'm open to ideas. -Ben Swartzlander __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
