Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Requirements and API revision progress

2014-04-18 Thread Eugene Nikanorov
Folks, As we're discussing single-call approach, I think it would be helpful to actually implement such API (e,g. practically, in the code) and see how it works, how compatibility is maintained and such. I think you could start with basic features available for single call - e.g. single vip and si

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Requirements and API revision progress

2014-04-17 Thread Brandon Logan
We look forward to your proposal and I hope that does get us closer (if not all the way to) an agreed upon revision. Also, thank you for taking the time to fully understand our thought processes on some of the features we want and decisions we made in the proposal. Thanks, Brandon On 04/17/2

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Requirements and API revision progress

2014-04-17 Thread Stephen Balukoff
Hi Brandon, Yep! I agree that both those definitions are correct: It all depends on context. I'm usually OK with going with whatever definition is in popular use by the user-base. However, "load balancer" as a term is so ambiguous among people actually developing a cloud load balancing system tha

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Requirements and API revision progress

2014-04-17 Thread Brandon Logan
Stephen, Thanks for elaborating on this. I agreed and still do that our proposal's load balancer falls more in line with that glossary's term for "listener" and now can see the discrepancy with "load balancer". Yes, in this case the term "load balancer" would have to be redefined, but that d

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Requirements and API revision progress

2014-04-17 Thread Stephen Balukoff
Hi Brandon! Per the meeting this morning, I seem to recall you were looking to have me elaborate on why the term 'load balancer' as used in your API proposal is significantly different from the term 'load balancer' as used in the glossary at: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/LBaaS/Glossary

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Requirements and API revision progress

2014-04-17 Thread Carlos Garza
: Sorry about that. It should be readable now. From: Eugene Nikanorov [enikano...@mirantis.com<mailto:enikano...@mirantis.com>] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 3:51 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neut

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Requirements and API revision progress

2014-04-17 Thread Eugene Nikanorov
ne Nikanorov [enikano...@mirantis.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 16, 2014 4:31 PM > > *To:* OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > *Subject:* Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Requirements and API > revision progress > > Hi folks, > > I'v

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Requirements and API revision progress

2014-04-16 Thread Jorge Miramontes
-dev@lists.openstack.org>> Date: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 9:17 PM To: "openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>" mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Requirements and API revision progress

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Requirements and API revision progress

2014-04-16 Thread Carlos Garza
ussed in https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/LBaaS/LoadbalancerInstance/Discussion Since you linked the object model proposals could you also link the "rest of the proposals" or are you referring to our draft as "rest of proposal"? Thanks, Eugene. On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:59 AM, Brandon Logan ma

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Requirements and API revision progress

2014-04-16 Thread Stephen Balukoff
t; Eugene. >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:39 AM, Brandon Logan < >> brandon.lo...@rackspace.com> wrote: >> >>> Here is Jorge and team’s API proposal based on Atlas. The document >>> has some questions and answers about why decisions were mad

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Requirements and API revision progress

2014-04-16 Thread Carlos Garza
hanks, Brandon Logan From: Eugene Nikanorov mailto:enikano...@mirantis.com>> Reply-To: "openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>" mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>> Date: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 at 7:00 AM To: "openstack-dev@lists.op

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Requirements and API revision progress

2014-04-16 Thread Brandon Logan
OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Requirements and API revision progress Hi folks, I've briefly looked over the doc. I think whole idea to base the API on Atlas misses the content switching use case, which is ver

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Requirements and API revision progress

2014-04-16 Thread Eugene Nikanorov
3:51 PM > > *To:* OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > *Subject:* Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Requirements and API > revision progress > > Hi Brandon, > > Seems that doc has not been made public, so please share. > > Thanks, > Eugen

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Requirements and API revision progress

2014-04-16 Thread Brandon Logan
" mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>> Date: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 at 7:00 AM To: "openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>" mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Requirements an

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Requirements and API revision progress

2014-04-16 Thread Eugene Nikanorov
esday, April 15, 2014 at 7:00 AM > To: "openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org" > > > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Requirements and API > revision progress > > Hi Stephen, > > Thanks for a good summary. Some comments inline. > > > On Tue, Apr 15

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Requirements and API revision progress

2014-04-16 Thread Brandon Logan
nstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Requirements and API revision progress Hi Stephen, Thanks for a good summary. Some comments inline. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 5:20 AM, Stephen Balukoff mailto:sbaluk...@bluebox.net>> wrote: So! On this front:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Requirements and API revision progress

2014-04-16 Thread Carlos Garza
On Apr 14, 2014, at 8:20 PM, Stephen Balukoff mailto:sbaluk...@bluebox.net>> wrote: Hello y'all! Over the last few months, I feel like we've seen a renewed vigor for participation in making the LBaaS project successful. After the (still unresolved) object model discussion started in January,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Requirements and API revision progress

2014-04-15 Thread Brandon Logan
, Brandon Logan From: Eugene Nikanorov [enikano...@mirantis.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 7:00 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Requirements and API revision progress Hi Stephen, Th

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Requirements and API revision progress

2014-04-15 Thread Eugene Nikanorov
Hi Stephen, Thanks for a good summary. Some comments inline. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 5:20 AM, Stephen Balukoff wrote: > > > So! On this front: > > 1. Does is make sense to keep filling out use cases in Samuel's document > above? I can think of several more use cases that our customers actually >

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Requirements and API revision progress

2014-04-14 Thread Stephen Balukoff
Hello y'all! Over the last few months, I feel like we've seen a renewed vigor for participation in making the LBaaS project successful. After the (still unresolved) object model discussion started in January, based on feedback we were getting from Neutron core developers (mainly Mark McClain, from