Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Use cases with regards to VIP and routers

2014-08-12 Thread Stephen Balukoff
>From the perspective of Blue Box:

* Load balancing appliances will often (usually?) live outside the same
subnet as back-end member VMs.
* The network in which the load balancing appliances live will usually have
a default router (gateway)
* We don't anticipate the need for using extra_routes at this time, though
I suspect other operators might need this.
* We also anticipate occasionally needing the load balancing appliances to
have layer-2 connectivity to some back-end member VMs.



On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 12:32 AM, Susanne Balle 
wrote:

> In the context of Octavia and Neutron LBaaS. Susanne
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Stephen Balukoff 
> wrote:
>
>> Susanne,
>>
>> Are you asking in the context of Load Balancer services in general, or in
>> terms of the Neutron LBaaS project or the Octavia project?
>>
>> Stephen
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Doug Wiegley 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Susanne,
>>>
>>> While there are a few operators involved with LBaaS that would have good
>>> input, you might want to also ask this on the non-dev mailing list, for a
>>> larger sample size.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> doug
>>>
>>> On 8/11/14, 3:05 AM, "Susanne Balle"  wrote:
>>>
>>> >Gang,
>>> >I was asked the following questions around our Neutron LBaaS use cases:
>>> >1.  Will there be a scenario where the ³VIP² port will be in a different
>>> >Node, from all the Member ³VMs² in a pool.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >2.  Also how likely is it for the LBaaS configured subnet to not have a
>>> >³router² and just use the ³extra_routes²
>>> > option.
>>> >3.  Is there a valid use case where customers will be using the
>>> >³extra_routes² with subnets instead of the ³routers².
>>> > ( It would be great if you have some use case picture for this).
>>> >Feel free to chime in here and I'll summaries the answers.
>>> >Regards Susanne
>>> >
>>>
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Use cases with regards to VIP and routers

2014-08-12 Thread Susanne Balle
In the context of Octavia and Neutron LBaaS. Susanne


On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Stephen Balukoff 
wrote:

> Susanne,
>
> Are you asking in the context of Load Balancer services in general, or in
> terms of the Neutron LBaaS project or the Octavia project?
>
> Stephen
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Doug Wiegley 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Susanne,
>>
>> While there are a few operators involved with LBaaS that would have good
>> input, you might want to also ask this on the non-dev mailing list, for a
>> larger sample size.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> doug
>>
>> On 8/11/14, 3:05 AM, "Susanne Balle"  wrote:
>>
>> >Gang,
>> >I was asked the following questions around our Neutron LBaaS use cases:
>> >1.  Will there be a scenario where the ³VIP² port will be in a different
>> >Node, from all the Member ³VMs² in a pool.
>> >
>> >
>> >2.  Also how likely is it for the LBaaS configured subnet to not have a
>> >³router² and just use the ³extra_routes²
>> > option.
>> >3.  Is there a valid use case where customers will be using the
>> >³extra_routes² with subnets instead of the ³routers².
>> > ( It would be great if you have some use case picture for this).
>> >Feel free to chime in here and I'll summaries the answers.
>> >Regards Susanne
>> >
>>
>>
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Use cases with regards to VIP and routers

2014-08-11 Thread Stephen Balukoff
Susanne,

Are you asking in the context of Load Balancer services in general, or in
terms of the Neutron LBaaS project or the Octavia project?

Stephen


On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Doug Wiegley  wrote:

> Hi Susanne,
>
> While there are a few operators involved with LBaaS that would have good
> input, you might want to also ask this on the non-dev mailing list, for a
> larger sample size.
>
> Thanks,
> doug
>
> On 8/11/14, 3:05 AM, "Susanne Balle"  wrote:
>
> >Gang,
> >I was asked the following questions around our Neutron LBaaS use cases:
> >1.  Will there be a scenario where the ³VIP² port will be in a different
> >Node, from all the Member ³VMs² in a pool.
> >
> >
> >2.  Also how likely is it for the LBaaS configured subnet to not have a
> >³router² and just use the ³extra_routes²
> > option.
> >3.  Is there a valid use case where customers will be using the
> >³extra_routes² with subnets instead of the ³routers².
> > ( It would be great if you have some use case picture for this).
> >Feel free to chime in here and I'll summaries the answers.
> >Regards Susanne
> >
>
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Use cases with regards to VIP and routers

2014-08-11 Thread Doug Wiegley
Hi Susanne,

While there are a few operators involved with LBaaS that would have good
input, you might want to also ask this on the non-dev mailing list, for a
larger sample size.

Thanks,
doug

On 8/11/14, 3:05 AM, "Susanne Balle"  wrote:

>Gang,
>I was asked the following questions around our Neutron LBaaS use cases:
>1.  Will there be a scenario where the ³VIP² port will be in a different
>Node, from all the Member ³VMs² in a pool.
>
>
>2.  Also how likely is it for the LBaaS configured subnet to not have a
>³router² and just use the ³extra_routes²
> option.
>3.  Is there a valid use case where customers will be using the
>³extra_routes² with subnets instead of the ³routers².
> ( It would be great if you have some use case picture for this).
>Feel free to chime in here and I'll summaries the answers.
>Regards Susanne
>


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[openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Use cases with regards to VIP and routers

2014-08-11 Thread Susanne Balle
Gang,

I was asked the following questions around our Neutron LBaaS use cases:

1.  Will there be a scenario where the “VIP” port will be in a different
Node, from all the Member “VMs” in a pool.

2.  Also how likely is it for the LBaaS configured subnet to not have a
“router” and just use the “extra_routes” option.

3.  Is there a valid use case where customers will be using the
“extra_routes” with subnets instead of the “routers”. ( It would be great
if you have some use case picture for this).

Feel free to chime in here and I'll summaries the answers.

Regards Susanne
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