Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] [Nova] [Cinder] [tc] Should Openstack project maintained by core team keep only API/DB in the future?

2015-04-29 Thread Duncan Thomas
On 28 April 2015 at 21:59, Kevin Benton blak...@gmail.com wrote: The concern is that having broken drivers out there that claim to work with an OpenStack project end up making the project look bad. It's similar to a first time Linux user experiencing frequent kernel panics because they are

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] [Nova] [Cinder] [tc] Should Openstack project maintained by core team keep only API/DB in the future?

2015-04-29 Thread loy wolfe
From: loy wolfe Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 6:16:03 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] [Nova] [Cinder] [tc] Should Openstack project maintained by core team keep only API/DB in the future? On Wed, Apr 29

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] [Nova] [Cinder] [tc] Should Openstack project maintained by core team keep only API/DB in the future?

2015-04-28 Thread loy wolfe
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 2:59 AM, Kevin Benton blak...@gmail.com wrote: The concern is that having broken drivers out there that claim to work with an OpenStack project end up making the project look bad. It's similar to a first time Linux user experiencing frequent kernel panics because they

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] [Nova] [Cinder] [tc] Should Openstack project maintained by core team keep only API/DB in the future?

2015-04-28 Thread Luke Gorrie
On 28 April 2015 at 10:14, Duncan Thomas duncan.tho...@gmail.com wrote: If we allow third party CI to fail and wait for vendors to fix their stuff, experience has shown that they won't, and there'll be broken or barely functional drivers out there, and no easy way for the community to exert

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] [Nova] [Cinder] [tc] Should Openstack project maintained by core team keep only API/DB in the future?

2015-04-28 Thread Fox, Kevin M
wolfe Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 6:16:03 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] [Nova] [Cinder] [tc] Should Openstack project maintained by core team keep only API/DB in the future? On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 2:59 AM, Kevin Benton

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] [Nova] [Cinder] [tc] Should Openstack project maintained by core team keep only API/DB in the future?

2015-04-28 Thread Kevin Benton
The concern is that having broken drivers out there that claim to work with an OpenStack project end up making the project look bad. It's similar to a first time Linux user experiencing frequent kernel panics because they are using hardware with terrible drivers. They aren't going to recognize the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] [Nova] [Cinder] [tc] Should Openstack project maintained by core team keep only API/DB in the future?

2015-04-28 Thread loy wolfe
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 9:46 PM, Salvatore Orlando sorla...@nicira.com wrote: On 24 April 2015 at 15:13, Kyle Mestery mest...@mestery.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 4:06 AM, loy wolfe loywo...@gmail.com wrote: It's already away from the original thread, so I start this new one, also

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] [Nova] [Cinder] [tc] Should Openstack project maintained by core team keep only API/DB in the future?

2015-04-28 Thread Duncan Thomas
On 24 April 2015 at 12:06, loy wolfe loywo...@gmail.com wrote: Background summary: All in-tree implementation would be splitted from Openstack networking, leaving Neutron as a naked API/DB platform, with a list of out-tree implementation git repos, which are not maintained by core team any

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] [Nova] [Cinder] [tc] Should Openstack project maintained by core team keep only API/DB in the future?

2015-04-27 Thread loy wolfe
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 9:13 PM, Kyle Mestery mest...@mestery.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 4:06 AM, loy wolfe loywo...@gmail.com wrote: It's already away from the original thread, so I start this new one, also with some extra tag because I think it touch some corss-project area.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] [Nova] [Cinder] [tc] Should Openstack project maintained by core team keep only API/DB in the future?

2015-04-24 Thread loy wolfe
It's already away from the original thread, so I start this new one, also with some extra tag because I think it touch some corss-project area. Original discuss and reference: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-April/062384.html

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] [Nova] [Cinder] [tc] Should Openstack project maintained by core team keep only API/DB in the future?

2015-04-24 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 4:06 AM, loy wolfe loywo...@gmail.com wrote: It's already away from the original thread, so I start this new one, also with some extra tag because I think it touch some corss-project area. Original discuss and reference:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] [Nova] [Cinder] [tc] Should Openstack project maintained by core team keep only API/DB in the future?

2015-04-24 Thread Salvatore Orlando
On 24 April 2015 at 15:13, Kyle Mestery mest...@mestery.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 4:06 AM, loy wolfe loywo...@gmail.com wrote: It's already away from the original thread, so I start this new one, also with some extra tag because I think it touch some corss-project area. Original

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] [Nova] [Cinder] [tc] Should Openstack project maintained by core team keep only API/DB in the future?

2015-04-24 Thread Russell Bryant
On 04/24/2015 05:06 AM, loy wolfe wrote: It's already away from the original thread, so I start this new one, also with some extra tag because I think it touch some corss-project area. Original discuss and reference: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-April/062384.html

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] [Nova] [Cinder] [tc] Should Openstack project maintained by core team keep only API/DB in the future?

2015-04-24 Thread Mathieu Rohon
Hi loy, thanks for this dedicated thread. On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Kyle Mestery mest...@mestery.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 4:06 AM, loy wolfe loywo...@gmail.com wrote: It's already away from the original thread, so I start this new one, also with some extra tag because I