Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Common requirements for services' discussion
Hi, Here is the log from today's meeting: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_advanced_services/2013/networking_advanced_services.2013-10-29-15.33.log.html (some action items for a few folks who were present, we will follow up in the next meeting.) Thanks, ~Sumit. On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Sumit Naiksatam sumitnaiksa...@gmail.comwrote: Hi All, This is a reminder for the next IRC meeting on Tuesday (Oct 29th) 15.30 UTC (8.30 AM PDT) on the #openstack-meeting-alt channel. Meeting agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/AdvancedServices Thanks, ~Sumit. On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Sumit Naiksatam sumitnaiksa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Here is a log of today's discussion: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_advanced_services/2013/networking_advanced_services.2013-10-22-15.32.log.html (some action items for a few folks who were present, we will follow up in the next meeting.) Thanks, ~Sumit. On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 11:08 PM, Sumit Naiksatam sumitnaiksa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, This is a reminder for the next IRC meeting on Tuesday (Oct 22nd) 15.30 UTC (8.30 AM PDT) on the #openstack-meeting-alt channel. The proposed agenda is: * Service insertion and chaining * Service agents * Service VMs - mechanism * Service VMs - policy * Extensible APIs for services and anything else you may want to discuss in this context. Meeting wiki page (has pointer to the first meeting logs): https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/AdvancedServices Thanks, ~Sumit. On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 12:02 AM, Sumit Naiksatam sumitnaiksa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, We will have the advanced services and the common requirements IRC meeting on Tuesdays 15.30 UTC (8.30 AM PDT) on the #openstack-meeting-alt channel. The meeting time was chosen to accommodate requests by folks in Asia and will hopefully suit most people involved. Please note that this is the alternate meeting channel. The agenda will be a continuation of discussion from the previous meeting with some additional agenda items based on the sessions already proposed for the summit. The current discussion is being captured in this etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/NeutronAdvancedServices Hope you can make it and participate. Thanks, ~Sumit. On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 8:15 PM, Sumit Naiksatam sumitnaiksa...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks all for attending the IRC meeting today for the Neutron advanced services discussion. We have an etherpad for this: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/NeutronAdvancedServices It was also felt that we need to have more ongoing discussions, so we will have follow up meetings. We will try to propose a more convenient time for everyone involved for a meeting next week. Meanwhile, we can continue to use the mailing list, etherpad, and/or comment on the specific proposals. Thanks, ~Sumit. On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Sumit Naiksatam sumitnaiksa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, We had a VPNaaS meeting yesterday and it was felt that we should have a separate meeting to discuss the topics common to all services. So, in preparation for the Icehouse summit, I am proposing an IRC meeting on Oct 14th 22:00 UTC (immediately after the Neutron meeting) to discuss common aspects related to the FWaaS, LBaaS, and VPNaaS. We will begin with service insertion and chaining discussion, and I hope we can collect requirements for other common aspects such as service agents, services instances, etc. as well. Etherpad for service insertion chaining can be found here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/icehouse-neutron-service-insertion-chaining Hope you all can join. Thanks, ~Sumit. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Common requirements for services' discussion
Hi All, This is a reminder for the next IRC meeting on Tuesday (Oct 29th) 15.30 UTC (8.30 AM PDT) on the #openstack-meeting-alt channel. Meeting agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/AdvancedServices Thanks, ~Sumit. On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Sumit Naiksatam sumitnaiksa...@gmail.comwrote: Hi All, Here is a log of today's discussion: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_advanced_services/2013/networking_advanced_services.2013-10-22-15.32.log.html (some action items for a few folks who were present, we will follow up in the next meeting.) Thanks, ~Sumit. On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 11:08 PM, Sumit Naiksatam sumitnaiksa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, This is a reminder for the next IRC meeting on Tuesday (Oct 22nd) 15.30 UTC (8.30 AM PDT) on the #openstack-meeting-alt channel. The proposed agenda is: * Service insertion and chaining * Service agents * Service VMs - mechanism * Service VMs - policy * Extensible APIs for services and anything else you may want to discuss in this context. Meeting wiki page (has pointer to the first meeting logs): https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/AdvancedServices Thanks, ~Sumit. On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 12:02 AM, Sumit Naiksatam sumitnaiksa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, We will have the advanced services and the common requirements IRC meeting on Tuesdays 15.30 UTC (8.30 AM PDT) on the #openstack-meeting-alt channel. The meeting time was chosen to accommodate requests by folks in Asia and will hopefully suit most people involved. Please note that this is the alternate meeting channel. The agenda will be a continuation of discussion from the previous meeting with some additional agenda items based on the sessions already proposed for the summit. The current discussion is being captured in this etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/NeutronAdvancedServices Hope you can make it and participate. Thanks, ~Sumit. On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 8:15 PM, Sumit Naiksatam sumitnaiksa...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks all for attending the IRC meeting today for the Neutron advanced services discussion. We have an etherpad for this: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/NeutronAdvancedServices It was also felt that we need to have more ongoing discussions, so we will have follow up meetings. We will try to propose a more convenient time for everyone involved for a meeting next week. Meanwhile, we can continue to use the mailing list, etherpad, and/or comment on the specific proposals. Thanks, ~Sumit. On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Sumit Naiksatam sumitnaiksa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, We had a VPNaaS meeting yesterday and it was felt that we should have a separate meeting to discuss the topics common to all services. So, in preparation for the Icehouse summit, I am proposing an IRC meeting on Oct 14th 22:00 UTC (immediately after the Neutron meeting) to discuss common aspects related to the FWaaS, LBaaS, and VPNaaS. We will begin with service insertion and chaining discussion, and I hope we can collect requirements for other common aspects such as service agents, services instances, etc. as well. Etherpad for service insertion chaining can be found here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/icehouse-neutron-service-insertion-chaining Hope you all can join. Thanks, ~Sumit. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Common requirements for services' discussion
Hi All, This is a reminder for the next IRC meeting on Tuesday (Oct 22nd) 15.30 UTC (8.30 AM PDT) on the #openstack-meeting-alt channel. The proposed agenda is: * Service insertion and chaining * Service agents * Service VMs - mechanism * Service VMs - policy * Extensible APIs for services and anything else you may want to discuss in this context. Meeting wiki page (has pointer to the first meeting logs): https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/AdvancedServices Thanks, ~Sumit. On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 12:02 AM, Sumit Naiksatam sumitnaiksa...@gmail.comwrote: Hi All, We will have the advanced services and the common requirements IRC meeting on Tuesdays 15.30 UTC (8.30 AM PDT) on the #openstack-meeting-alt channel. The meeting time was chosen to accommodate requests by folks in Asia and will hopefully suit most people involved. Please note that this is the alternate meeting channel. The agenda will be a continuation of discussion from the previous meeting with some additional agenda items based on the sessions already proposed for the summit. The current discussion is being captured in this etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/NeutronAdvancedServices Hope you can make it and participate. Thanks, ~Sumit. On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 8:15 PM, Sumit Naiksatam sumitnaiksa...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks all for attending the IRC meeting today for the Neutron advanced services discussion. We have an etherpad for this: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/NeutronAdvancedServices It was also felt that we need to have more ongoing discussions, so we will have follow up meetings. We will try to propose a more convenient time for everyone involved for a meeting next week. Meanwhile, we can continue to use the mailing list, etherpad, and/or comment on the specific proposals. Thanks, ~Sumit. On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Sumit Naiksatam sumitnaiksa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, We had a VPNaaS meeting yesterday and it was felt that we should have a separate meeting to discuss the topics common to all services. So, in preparation for the Icehouse summit, I am proposing an IRC meeting on Oct 14th 22:00 UTC (immediately after the Neutron meeting) to discuss common aspects related to the FWaaS, LBaaS, and VPNaaS. We will begin with service insertion and chaining discussion, and I hope we can collect requirements for other common aspects such as service agents, services instances, etc. as well. Etherpad for service insertion chaining can be found here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/icehouse-neutron-service-insertion-chaining Hope you all can join. Thanks, ~Sumit. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Common requirements for services' discussion
Hi All, Here is a log of today's discussion: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_advanced_services/2013/networking_advanced_services.2013-10-22-15.32.log.html (some action items for a few folks who were present, we will follow up in the next meeting.) Thanks, ~Sumit. On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 11:08 PM, Sumit Naiksatam sumitnaiksa...@gmail.comwrote: Hi All, This is a reminder for the next IRC meeting on Tuesday (Oct 22nd) 15.30 UTC (8.30 AM PDT) on the #openstack-meeting-alt channel. The proposed agenda is: * Service insertion and chaining * Service agents * Service VMs - mechanism * Service VMs - policy * Extensible APIs for services and anything else you may want to discuss in this context. Meeting wiki page (has pointer to the first meeting logs): https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/AdvancedServices Thanks, ~Sumit. On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 12:02 AM, Sumit Naiksatam sumitnaiksa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, We will have the advanced services and the common requirements IRC meeting on Tuesdays 15.30 UTC (8.30 AM PDT) on the #openstack-meeting-alt channel. The meeting time was chosen to accommodate requests by folks in Asia and will hopefully suit most people involved. Please note that this is the alternate meeting channel. The agenda will be a continuation of discussion from the previous meeting with some additional agenda items based on the sessions already proposed for the summit. The current discussion is being captured in this etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/NeutronAdvancedServices Hope you can make it and participate. Thanks, ~Sumit. On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 8:15 PM, Sumit Naiksatam sumitnaiksa...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks all for attending the IRC meeting today for the Neutron advanced services discussion. We have an etherpad for this: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/NeutronAdvancedServices It was also felt that we need to have more ongoing discussions, so we will have follow up meetings. We will try to propose a more convenient time for everyone involved for a meeting next week. Meanwhile, we can continue to use the mailing list, etherpad, and/or comment on the specific proposals. Thanks, ~Sumit. On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Sumit Naiksatam sumitnaiksa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, We had a VPNaaS meeting yesterday and it was felt that we should have a separate meeting to discuss the topics common to all services. So, in preparation for the Icehouse summit, I am proposing an IRC meeting on Oct 14th 22:00 UTC (immediately after the Neutron meeting) to discuss common aspects related to the FWaaS, LBaaS, and VPNaaS. We will begin with service insertion and chaining discussion, and I hope we can collect requirements for other common aspects such as service agents, services instances, etc. as well. Etherpad for service insertion chaining can be found here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/icehouse-neutron-service-insertion-chaining Hope you all can join. Thanks, ~Sumit. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Common requirements for services' discussion
I am sorry that I missed this morning's meeting. Reading through the log, one thing that was briefly touch upon is to support Service Type Framework for L3 router service. As all other services (vpn, fw, lb, metering) will be integrated to the service framework in I-release, L3 router service, as a major building block, shouldn't be missed. What we are thinking is to make L3 agent as one of plugin-drivers of L3 router services. This seems to align with comments during the meeting. I wonder if there are enough interests to push this forward. Thanks, Gary On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Sumit Naiksatam sumitnaiksa...@gmail.comwrote: Hi All, Here is a log of today's discussion: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_advanced_services/2013/networking_advanced_services.2013-10-22-15.32.log.html (some action items for a few folks who were present, we will follow up in the next meeting.) Thanks, ~Sumit. On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 11:08 PM, Sumit Naiksatam sumitnaiksa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, This is a reminder for the next IRC meeting on Tuesday (Oct 22nd) 15.30 UTC (8.30 AM PDT) on the #openstack-meeting-alt channel. The proposed agenda is: * Service insertion and chaining * Service agents * Service VMs - mechanism * Service VMs - policy * Extensible APIs for services and anything else you may want to discuss in this context. Meeting wiki page (has pointer to the first meeting logs): https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/AdvancedServices Thanks, ~Sumit. On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 12:02 AM, Sumit Naiksatam sumitnaiksa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, We will have the advanced services and the common requirements IRC meeting on Tuesdays 15.30 UTC (8.30 AM PDT) on the #openstack-meeting-alt channel. The meeting time was chosen to accommodate requests by folks in Asia and will hopefully suit most people involved. Please note that this is the alternate meeting channel. The agenda will be a continuation of discussion from the previous meeting with some additional agenda items based on the sessions already proposed for the summit. The current discussion is being captured in this etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/NeutronAdvancedServices Hope you can make it and participate. Thanks, ~Sumit. On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 8:15 PM, Sumit Naiksatam sumitnaiksa...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks all for attending the IRC meeting today for the Neutron advanced services discussion. We have an etherpad for this: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/NeutronAdvancedServices It was also felt that we need to have more ongoing discussions, so we will have follow up meetings. We will try to propose a more convenient time for everyone involved for a meeting next week. Meanwhile, we can continue to use the mailing list, etherpad, and/or comment on the specific proposals. Thanks, ~Sumit. On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Sumit Naiksatam sumitnaiksa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, We had a VPNaaS meeting yesterday and it was felt that we should have a separate meeting to discuss the topics common to all services. So, in preparation for the Icehouse summit, I am proposing an IRC meeting on Oct 14th 22:00 UTC (immediately after the Neutron meeting) to discuss common aspects related to the FWaaS, LBaaS, and VPNaaS. We will begin with service insertion and chaining discussion, and I hope we can collect requirements for other common aspects such as service agents, services instances, etc. as well. Etherpad for service insertion chaining can be found here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/icehouse-neutron-service-insertion-chaining Hope you all can join. Thanks, ~Sumit. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Common requirements for services' discussion
Hi All, We will have the advanced services and the common requirements IRC meeting on Tuesdays 15.30 UTC (8.30 AM PDT) on the #openstack-meeting-alt channel. The meeting time was chosen to accommodate requests by folks in Asia and will hopefully suit most people involved. Please note that this is the alternate meeting channel. The agenda will be a continuation of discussion from the previous meeting with some additional agenda items based on the sessions already proposed for the summit. The current discussion is being captured in this etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/NeutronAdvancedServices Hope you can make it and participate. Thanks, ~Sumit. On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 8:15 PM, Sumit Naiksatam sumitnaiksa...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks all for attending the IRC meeting today for the Neutron advanced services discussion. We have an etherpad for this: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/NeutronAdvancedServices It was also felt that we need to have more ongoing discussions, so we will have follow up meetings. We will try to propose a more convenient time for everyone involved for a meeting next week. Meanwhile, we can continue to use the mailing list, etherpad, and/or comment on the specific proposals. Thanks, ~Sumit. On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Sumit Naiksatam sumitnaiksa...@gmail.comwrote: Hi All, We had a VPNaaS meeting yesterday and it was felt that we should have a separate meeting to discuss the topics common to all services. So, in preparation for the Icehouse summit, I am proposing an IRC meeting on Oct 14th 22:00 UTC (immediately after the Neutron meeting) to discuss common aspects related to the FWaaS, LBaaS, and VPNaaS. We will begin with service insertion and chaining discussion, and I hope we can collect requirements for other common aspects such as service agents, services instances, etc. as well. Etherpad for service insertion chaining can be found here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/icehouse-neutron-service-insertion-chaining Hope you all can join. Thanks, ~Sumit. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Common requirements for services' discussion
Thanks all for attending the IRC meeting today for the Neutron advanced services discussion. We have an etherpad for this: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/NeutronAdvancedServices It was also felt that we need to have more ongoing discussions, so we will have follow up meetings. We will try to propose a more convenient time for everyone involved for a meeting next week. Meanwhile, we can continue to use the mailing list, etherpad, and/or comment on the specific proposals. Thanks, ~Sumit. On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Sumit Naiksatam sumitnaiksa...@gmail.comwrote: Hi All, We had a VPNaaS meeting yesterday and it was felt that we should have a separate meeting to discuss the topics common to all services. So, in preparation for the Icehouse summit, I am proposing an IRC meeting on Oct 14th 22:00 UTC (immediately after the Neutron meeting) to discuss common aspects related to the FWaaS, LBaaS, and VPNaaS. We will begin with service insertion and chaining discussion, and I hope we can collect requirements for other common aspects such as service agents, services instances, etc. as well. Etherpad for service insertion chaining can be found here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/icehouse-neutron-service-insertion-chaining Hope you all can join. Thanks, ~Sumit. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Common requirements for services' discussion
Excellent points guys! Salvatore, It was you presenting that blueprint in San Diego? Hopefully we can get more people involved. I will not call it NATaaS Harshad, I also like to simplify as much as possible NAT configuration, in and out networks and that is :-) Rudra, IPAM extensions sounds very interesting and some how alignment to have NAT implemented as individual service allowing vendor-technologies to be included as well in Neutron but in the case of the AWS I don't see going in the same direction, it seems like two different approaches, what do you think? Thanks, Edgar From: Rudra Rugge rru...@juniper.net Reply-To: OpenStack List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: Thursday, October 10, 2013 5:22 PM To: OpenStack List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Common requirements for services' discussion Here are the blueprints (mentioned by Harshad below) to add complete AWS VPC compatibility in Openstack. AWS EC2 compatibility already exists in Openstack. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/ipam-extensions-for-neutron https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/policy-extensions-for-neutron https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/aws-vpc-support Services extension is relevant to NATaas (or Natasha :)), VPNaas, in AWS VPC. Regards, Rudra On Oct 10, 2013, at 6:15 AM, Harshad Nakil hna...@contrailsystems.com wrote: Agree, I like what AWS had done. Have a concept of NAT instance. 90 % use cases are solved by just specifying Inside and outside networks for the NAT instance. If one wants fancier NAT config they can always use NATaas API(s) To configure this instance. There is a blueprint for bringing Amazon VPC API compatibility to nova and related extensions to quantum already propose concept of NAT instance. How the NAT instance is implemented is left to the plugin. Regards -Harshad On Oct 10, 2013, at 1:47 AM, Salvatore Orlando sorla...@nicira.com wrote: Can I just ask you to not call it NATaas... if you want to pick a name for it, go for Natasha :) By the way, the idea of a NAT service plugin was first introduced at the Grizzly summit in San Diego. One hurdle, not a big one however, would be that the external gateway and floating IP features of the L3 extension already implicitly implements NAT. It will be important to find a solution to ensure NAT can be configured explicitly as well while allowing for configuring external gateway and floating IPs through the API in the same way that we do today. Apart from this, another interesting aspect would be to be see if we can come up with an approach which will result in an API which abstracts as much as possible networking aspects. In other words, I would like to avoid an API which ends up being iptables over rest, if possible. Regards, Salvatore On 10 October 2013 09:55, Bob Melander (bmelande) bmela...@cisco.com wrote: Hi Edgar, I'm also interested in a broadening of NAT capability in Neutron using the evolving service framework. Thanks, Bob From: Edgar Magana emag...@plumgrid.com Reply-To: OpenStack Development Mailing List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: onsdag 9 oktober 2013 21:38 To: OpenStack List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Common requirements for services' discussion Hello all, Is anyone working on NATaaS? I know we have some developer working on Router as a Service and they probably want to include NAT functionality but I have some interest in having NAT as a Service. Please, response is somebody is interested in having some discussions about it. Thanks, Edgar From: Sumit Naiksatam sumitnaiksa...@gmail.com Reply-To: OpenStack List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: Tuesday, October 8, 2013 8:30 PM To: OpenStack List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Common requirements for services' discussion Hi All, We had a VPNaaS meeting yesterday and it was felt that we should have a separate meeting to discuss the topics common to all services. So, in preparation for the Icehouse summit, I am proposing an IRC meeting on Oct 14th 22:00 UTC (immediately after the Neutron meeting) to discuss common aspects related to the FWaaS, LBaaS, and VPNaaS. We will begin with service insertion and chaining discussion, and I hope we can collect requirements for other common aspects such as service agents, services instances, etc. as well. Etherpad for service insertion chaining can be found here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/icehouse-neutron-service-insertion-chaining Hope you all can join. Thanks, ~Sumit. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Common requirements for services' discussion
Hi Edgar, I'm also interested in a broadening of NAT capability in Neutron using the evolving service framework. Thanks, Bob From: Edgar Magana emag...@plumgrid.commailto:emag...@plumgrid.com Reply-To: OpenStack Development Mailing List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: onsdag 9 oktober 2013 21:38 To: OpenStack List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Common requirements for services' discussion Hello all, Is anyone working on NATaaS? I know we have some developer working on Router as a Service and they probably want to include NAT functionality but I have some interest in having NAT as a Service. Please, response is somebody is interested in having some discussions about it. Thanks, Edgar From: Sumit Naiksatam sumitnaiksa...@gmail.commailto:sumitnaiksa...@gmail.com Reply-To: OpenStack List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: Tuesday, October 8, 2013 8:30 PM To: OpenStack List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Common requirements for services' discussion Hi All, We had a VPNaaS meeting yesterday and it was felt that we should have a separate meeting to discuss the topics common to all services. So, in preparation for the Icehouse summit, I am proposing an IRC meeting on Oct 14th 22:00 UTC (immediately after the Neutron meeting) to discuss common aspects related to the FWaaS, LBaaS, and VPNaaS. We will begin with service insertion and chaining discussion, and I hope we can collect requirements for other common aspects such as service agents, services instances, etc. as well. Etherpad for service insertion chaining can be found here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/icehouse-neutron-service-insertion-chaining Hope you all can join. Thanks, ~Sumit. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Common requirements for services' discussion
Agree, I like what AWS had done. Have a concept of NAT instance. 90 % use cases are solved by just specifying Inside and outside networks for the NAT instance. If one wants fancier NAT config they can always use NATaas API(s) To configure this instance. There is a blueprint for bringing Amazon VPC API compatibility to nova and related extensions to quantum already propose concept of NAT instance. How the NAT instance is implemented is left to the plugin. Regards -Harshad On Oct 10, 2013, at 1:47 AM, Salvatore Orlando sorla...@nicira.com wrote: Can I just ask you to not call it NATaas... if you want to pick a name for it, go for Natasha :) By the way, the idea of a NAT service plugin was first introduced at the Grizzly summit in San Diego. One hurdle, not a big one however, would be that the external gateway and floating IP features of the L3 extension already implicitly implements NAT. It will be important to find a solution to ensure NAT can be configured explicitly as well while allowing for configuring external gateway and floating IPs through the API in the same way that we do today. Apart from this, another interesting aspect would be to be see if we can come up with an approach which will result in an API which abstracts as much as possible networking aspects. In other words, I would like to avoid an API which ends up being iptables over rest, if possible. Regards, Salvatore On 10 October 2013 09:55, Bob Melander (bmelande) bmela...@cisco.comwrote: Hi Edgar, I'm also interested in a broadening of NAT capability in Neutron using the evolving service framework. Thanks, Bob From: Edgar Magana emag...@plumgrid.com Reply-To: OpenStack Development Mailing List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: onsdag 9 oktober 2013 21:38 To: OpenStack List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Common requirements for services' discussion Hello all, Is anyone working on NATaaS? I know we have some developer working on Router as a Service and they probably want to include NAT functionality but I have some interest in having NAT as a Service. Please, response is somebody is interested in having some discussions about it. Thanks, Edgar From: Sumit Naiksatam sumitnaiksa...@gmail.com Reply-To: OpenStack List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: Tuesday, October 8, 2013 8:30 PM To: OpenStack List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Common requirements for services' discussion Hi All, We had a VPNaaS meeting yesterday and it was felt that we should have a separate meeting to discuss the topics common to all services. So, in preparation for the Icehouse summit, I am proposing an IRC meeting on Oct 14th 22:00 UTC (immediately after the Neutron meeting) to discuss common aspects related to the FWaaS, LBaaS, and VPNaaS. We will begin with service insertion and chaining discussion, and I hope we can collect requirements for other common aspects such as service agents, services instances, etc. as well. Etherpad for service insertion chaining can be found here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/icehouse-neutron-service-insertion-chaining Hope you all can join. Thanks, ~Sumit. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Common requirements for services' discussion
Here are the blueprints (mentioned by Harshad below) to add complete AWS VPC compatibility in Openstack. AWS EC2 compatibility already exists in Openstack. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/ipam-extensions-for-neutron https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/policy-extensions-for-neutron https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/aws-vpc-support Services extension is relevant to NATaas (or Natasha :)), VPNaas, in AWS VPC. Regards, Rudra On Oct 10, 2013, at 6:15 AM, Harshad Nakil hna...@contrailsystems.commailto:hna...@contrailsystems.com wrote: Agree, I like what AWS had done. Have a concept of NAT instance. 90 % use cases are solved by just specifying Inside and outside networks for the NAT instance. If one wants fancier NAT config they can always use NATaas API(s) To configure this instance. There is a blueprint for bringing Amazon VPC API compatibility to nova and related extensions to quantum already propose concept of NAT instance. How the NAT instance is implemented is left to the plugin. Regards -Harshad On Oct 10, 2013, at 1:47 AM, Salvatore Orlando sorla...@nicira.commailto:sorla...@nicira.com wrote: Can I just ask you to not call it NATaas... if you want to pick a name for it, go for Natasha :) By the way, the idea of a NAT service plugin was first introduced at the Grizzly summit in San Diego. One hurdle, not a big one however, would be that the external gateway and floating IP features of the L3 extension already implicitly implements NAT. It will be important to find a solution to ensure NAT can be configured explicitly as well while allowing for configuring external gateway and floating IPs through the API in the same way that we do today. Apart from this, another interesting aspect would be to be see if we can come up with an approach which will result in an API which abstracts as much as possible networking aspects. In other words, I would like to avoid an API which ends up being iptables over rest, if possible. Regards, Salvatore On 10 October 2013 09:55, Bob Melander (bmelande) bmela...@cisco.commailto:bmela...@cisco.com wrote: Hi Edgar, I'm also interested in a broadening of NAT capability in Neutron using the evolving service framework. Thanks, Bob From: Edgar Magana emag...@plumgrid.commailto:emag...@plumgrid.com Reply-To: OpenStack Development Mailing List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: onsdag 9 oktober 2013 21:38 To: OpenStack List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Common requirements for services' discussion Hello all, Is anyone working on NATaaS? I know we have some developer working on Router as a Service and they probably want to include NAT functionality but I have some interest in having NAT as a Service. Please, response is somebody is interested in having some discussions about it. Thanks, Edgar From: Sumit Naiksatam sumitnaiksa...@gmail.commailto:sumitnaiksa...@gmail.com Reply-To: OpenStack List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: Tuesday, October 8, 2013 8:30 PM To: OpenStack List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Common requirements for services' discussion Hi All, We had a VPNaaS meeting yesterday and it was felt that we should have a separate meeting to discuss the topics common to all services. So, in preparation for the Icehouse summit, I am proposing an IRC meeting on Oct 14th 22:00 UTC (immediately after the Neutron meeting) to discuss common aspects related to the FWaaS, LBaaS, and VPNaaS. We will begin with service insertion and chaining discussion, and I hope we can collect requirements for other common aspects such as service agents, services instances, etc. as well. Etherpad for service insertion chaining can be found here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/icehouse-neutron-service-insertion-chaining Hope you all can join. Thanks, ~Sumit. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Common requirements for services' discussion
Hello all, Is anyone working on NATaaS? I know we have some developer working on Router as a Service and they probably want to include NAT functionality but I have some interest in having NAT as a Service. Please, response is somebody is interested in having some discussions about it. Thanks, Edgar From: Sumit Naiksatam sumitnaiksa...@gmail.com Reply-To: OpenStack List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: Tuesday, October 8, 2013 8:30 PM To: OpenStack List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Common requirements for services' discussion Hi All, We had a VPNaaS meeting yesterday and it was felt that we should have a separate meeting to discuss the topics common to all services. So, in preparation for the Icehouse summit, I am proposing an IRC meeting on Oct 14th 22:00 UTC (immediately after the Neutron meeting) to discuss common aspects related to the FWaaS, LBaaS, and VPNaaS. We will begin with service insertion and chaining discussion, and I hope we can collect requirements for other common aspects such as service agents, services instances, etc. as well. Etherpad for service insertion chaining can be found here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/icehouse-neutron-service-insertion-chaining Hope you all can join. Thanks, ~Sumit. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
[openstack-dev] [Neutron] Common requirements for services' discussion
Hi All, We had a VPNaaS meeting yesterday and it was felt that we should have a separate meeting to discuss the topics common to all services. So, in preparation for the Icehouse summit, I am proposing an IRC meeting on Oct 14th 22:00 UTC (immediately after the Neutron meeting) to discuss common aspects related to the FWaaS, LBaaS, and VPNaaS. We will begin with service insertion and chaining discussion, and I hope we can collect requirements for other common aspects such as service agents, services instances, etc. as well. Etherpad for service insertion chaining can be found here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/icehouse-neutron-service-insertion-chaining Hope you all can join. Thanks, ~Sumit. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
