Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Etherpad from the Ops Meetup
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Edgar Magana edgar.mag...@workday.com wrote: Folks, I just want to share with you the feedback collected today during the networking session on Ops Meet-up: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PAO-ops-network-model Special thanks to Ryan and Doug for helping on some questions. The only action items for Neutron developers that I can spot are: 1. Linux bridge + DVR / multi host 2. Prevent data loss when restarting the OVS agent (The patch [1] is very close to merge anyway, nothing more to do here) 3. Work as described by [2] (Big deployers team) The rest is either polling (Who uses what feature / plugin / etc) or generic comments with no actionable bugs or RFEs. Did I miss anything? [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182920/ [2] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Network_Segmentation_Usecases Cheers, Edgar __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Etherpad from the Ops Meetup
Actually, there were very few requirements collected. So, your summary is correct. I feel that this time we did not get a lot of input s we got during the Ops meet-up in Philadelphia. I also recommend to read the burning issues ether pads, there are few suggestions on the networking side. Actually, I believe Operators has expressed in this session some good feedback that they probaly did not want to repeat during the networking section. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PAO-ops-burning-issues Cheers, Edgar From: Assaf Muller Reply-To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 at 1:34 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Etherpad from the Ops Meetup On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Edgar Magana edgar.mag...@workday.commailto:edgar.mag...@workday.com wrote: Folks, I just want to share with you the feedback collected today during the networking session on Ops Meet-up: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PAO-ops-network-model Special thanks to Ryan and Doug for helping on some questions. The only action items for Neutron developers that I can spot are: 1. Linux bridge + DVR / multi host 2. Prevent data loss when restarting the OVS agent (The patch [1] is very close to merge anyway, nothing more to do here) 3. Work as described by [2] (Big deployers team) The rest is either polling (Who uses what feature / plugin / etc) or generic comments with no actionable bugs or RFEs. Did I miss anything? [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182920/ [2] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Network_Segmentation_Usecases Cheers, Edgar __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribehttp://openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
[openstack-dev] [Neutron] Etherpad from the Ops Meetup
Folks, I just want to share with you the feedback collected today during the networking session on Ops Meet-up: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PAO-ops-network-model Special thanks to Ryan and Doug for helping on some questions. Cheers, Edgar __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Etherpad from the Ops Meetup
One thing came up during lunch was including unit and functional testing of dual stack in the check and gate queues - I was regaled over lunch with one operator's experiences in trying to run Neutron on a dual stack system. Ryan Moats (regXboi) Edgar Magana edgar.mag...@workday.com wrote on 08/19/2015 03:43:44 PM: From: Edgar Magana edgar.mag...@workday.com To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: 08/19/2015 03:44 PM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Etherpad from the Ops Meetup Actually, there were very few requirements collected. So, your summary is correct. I feel that this time we did not get a lot of input s we got during the Ops meet-up in Philadelphia. I also recommend to read the burning issues ether pads, there are few suggestions on the networking side. Actually, I believe Operators has expressed in this session some good feedback that they probaly did not want to repeat during the networking section. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PAO-ops-burning-issues Cheers, Edgar From: Assaf Muller Reply-To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 at 1:34 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Etherpad from the Ops Meetup On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Edgar Magana edgar.mag...@workday.com wrote: Folks, I just want to share with you the feedback collected today during the networking session on Ops Meet-up: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PAO-ops-network-model Special thanks to Ryan and Doug for helping on some questions. The only action items for Neutron developers that I can spot are: 1. Linux bridge + DVR / multi host 2. Prevent data loss when restarting the OVS agent (The patch [1] is very close to merge anyway, nothing more to do here) 3. Work as described by [2] (Big deployers team) The rest is either polling (Who uses what feature / plugin / etc) or generic comments with no actionable bugs or RFEs. Did I miss anything? [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182920/ [2] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Network_Segmentation_Usecases Cheers, Edgar __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Etherpad from the Ops Meetup
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 05:11:55PM EDT, Ryan Moats wrote: One thing came up during lunch was including unit and functional testing of dual stack in the check and gate queues - I was regaled over lunch with one operator's experiences in trying to run Neutron on a dual stack system. We are testing dual stack https://review.openstack.org/#/c/160856/ Have they found gaps in our coverage? -- Sean M. Collins __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Etherpad from the Ops Meetup
On 08/19/2015 05:29 PM, Ryan Moats wrote: They didn't mention a release by name, so I think it may be fair that they were testing pre-kilo - I'll take the action item to follow up with them... Ryan Sean M. Collins s...@coreitpro.com wrote on 08/19/2015 04:25:22 PM: From: Sean M. Collins s...@coreitpro.com To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: 08/19/2015 04:26 PM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Etherpad from the Ops Meetup On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 05:11:55PM EDT, Ryan Moats wrote: One thing came up during lunch was including unit and functional testing of dual stack in the check and gate queues - I was regaled over lunch with one operator's experiences in trying to run Neutron on a dual stack system. We are testing dual stack https://review.openstack.org/#/c/160856/ Have they found gaps in our coverage? -- Sean M. Collins __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev Some of the issue was that DVR wasn't (not sure if it still isn't) tested in a multi-node setup. -- Matthew Thode (prometheanfire) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Etherpad from the Ops Meetup
On 19/08/15 11:52, Edgar Magana wrote: Folks, I just want to share with you the feedback collected today during the networking session on Ops Meet-up: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PAO-ops-network-model Special thanks to Ryan and Doug for helping on some questions. Line 28 on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PAO-ops-deployment-tips also has some stuff on networking __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Etherpad from the Ops Meetup
They didn't mention a release by name, so I think it may be fair that they were testing pre-kilo - I'll take the action item to follow up with them... Ryan Sean M. Collins s...@coreitpro.com wrote on 08/19/2015 04:25:22 PM: From: Sean M. Collins s...@coreitpro.com To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: 08/19/2015 04:26 PM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Etherpad from the Ops Meetup On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 05:11:55PM EDT, Ryan Moats wrote: One thing came up during lunch was including unit and functional testing of dual stack in the check and gate queues - I was regaled over lunch with one operator's experiences in trying to run Neutron on a dual stack system. We are testing dual stack https://review.openstack.org/#/c/160856/ Have they found gaps in our coverage? -- Sean M. Collins __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Etherpad from the Ops Meetup
The etherpad contains some complaints around DVR implementation that might deserve furhter exploration. However, as pointed out by Jay, the comments made leave very little room for actionable items. It would be great if the author(s) could fill in with more details. Salvatore On 19 August 2015 at 23:11, Ryan Moats rmo...@us.ibm.com wrote: One thing came up during lunch was including unit and functional testing of dual stack in the check and gate queues - I was regaled over lunch with one operator's experiences in trying to run Neutron on a dual stack system. Ryan Moats (regXboi) Edgar Magana edgar.mag...@workday.com wrote on 08/19/2015 03:43:44 PM: From: Edgar Magana edgar.mag...@workday.com To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: 08/19/2015 03:44 PM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Etherpad from the Ops Meetup Actually, there were very few requirements collected. So, your summary is correct. I feel that this time we did not get a lot of input s we got during the Ops meet-up in Philadelphia. I also recommend to read the burning issues ether pads, there are few suggestions on the networking side. Actually, I believe Operators has expressed in this session some good feedback that they probaly did not want to repeat during the networking section. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PAO-ops-burning-issues Cheers, Edgar From: Assaf Muller Reply-To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 at 1:34 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Etherpad from the Ops Meetup On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Edgar Magana edgar.mag...@workday.com wrote: Folks, I just want to share with you the feedback collected today during the networking session on Ops Meet-up: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PAO-ops-network-model Special thanks to Ryan and Doug for helping on some questions. The only action items for Neutron developers that I can spot are: 1. Linux bridge + DVR / multi host 2. Prevent data loss when restarting the OVS agent (The patch [1] is very close to merge anyway, nothing more to do here) 3. Work as described by [2] (Big deployers team) The rest is either polling (Who uses what feature / plugin / etc) or generic comments with no actionable bugs or RFEs. Did I miss anything? [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182920/ [2] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Network_Segmentation_Usecases Cheers, Edgar __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Etherpad from the Ops Meetup
To expand on that a bit, I think the DVR complaints were vague because of the simple fact that the overwhelming majority were or wanted to run linuxbridge, not OVS, so DVR was a theoretical thing for them. doug On Aug 19, 2015, at 2:21 PM, Salvatore Orlando salv.orla...@gmail.com wrote: The etherpad contains some complaints around DVR implementation that might deserve furhter exploration. However, as pointed out by Jay, the comments made leave very little room for actionable items. It would be great if the author(s) could fill in with more details. Salvatore On 19 August 2015 at 23:11, Ryan Moats rmo...@us.ibm.com mailto:rmo...@us.ibm.com wrote: One thing came up during lunch was including unit and functional testing of dual stack in the check and gate queues - I was regaled over lunch with one operator's experiences in trying to run Neutron on a dual stack system. Ryan Moats (regXboi) Edgar Magana edgar.mag...@workday.com mailto:edgar.mag...@workday.com wrote on 08/19/2015 03:43:44 PM: From: Edgar Magana edgar.mag...@workday.com mailto:edgar.mag...@workday.com To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: 08/19/2015 03:44 PM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Etherpad from the Ops Meetup Actually, there were very few requirements collected. So, your summary is correct. I feel that this time we did not get a lot of input s we got during the Ops meet-up in Philadelphia. I also recommend to read the burning issues ether pads, there are few suggestions on the networking side. Actually, I believe Operators has expressed in this session some good feedback that they probaly did not want to repeat during the networking section. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PAO-ops-burning-issues https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PAO-ops-burning-issues Cheers, Edgar From: Assaf Muller Reply-To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 at 1:34 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Etherpad from the Ops Meetup On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Edgar Magana edgar.mag...@workday.com mailto:edgar.mag...@workday.com wrote: Folks, I just want to share with you the feedback collected today during the networking session on Ops Meet-up: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PAO-ops-network-model https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PAO-ops-network-model Special thanks to Ryan and Doug for helping on some questions. The only action items for Neutron developers that I can spot are: 1. Linux bridge + DVR / multi host 2. Prevent data loss when restarting the OVS agent (The patch [1] is very close to merge anyway, nothing more to do here) 3. Work as described by [2] (Big deployers team) The rest is either polling (Who uses what feature / plugin / etc) or generic comments with no actionable bugs or RFEs. Did I miss anything? [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182920/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182920/ [2] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Network_Segmentation_Usecases https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Network_Segmentation_Usecases Cheers, Edgar __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org/?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org/?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org/?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
