Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Specs approved for Juno-3 and exceptions

2014-07-26 Thread Mandeep Dhami
Thanks Jay. I agree with your position on it, and that is exactly what I would expect as the process in a collaborative community. That "feels like the right way" ;-) Unfortunately, there have been situations where we have had to ask a reviewer multiple times to re-review the code (after issues id

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Specs approved for Juno-3 and exceptions

2014-07-26 Thread Jay Pipes
On 07/25/2014 05:48 PM, Mandeep Dhami wrote: Thanks for the deck Jay, that is very helpful. Also, would it help the process by having some clear guidelines/expectations around review time as well? In particular, if you have put a -1 or -2, and the issues that you have identified have been addres

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Specs approved for Juno-3 and exceptions

2014-07-25 Thread Ivar Lazzaro
I agree that it's important to set a guideline for this topic. What if the said reviewer is "on vacation or indisposed"? Should a fallback strategy exist for that case? A reviewer could indicate a "delegate core" to review its -2s whenever he has no chance to do it. Thanks, Ivar. On Fri, Jul 25,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Specs approved for Juno-3 and exceptions

2014-07-25 Thread Mandeep Dhami
What would be a good guideline for "timely manner"? I would recommend something like 2-3 days unless the reviewer is on vacation or is indisposed. Is it possible to update gerrit/jenkins to send reminders to reviewers in such a scenario? Regards, Mandeep - On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 3:14 PM,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Specs approved for Juno-3 and exceptions

2014-07-25 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Mandeep Dhami wrote: > > Thanks for the deck Jay, that is very helpful. > > Also, would it help the process by having some clear guidelines/expectations > around review time as well? In particular, if you have put a -1 or -2, and > the issues that you have identifi

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Specs approved for Juno-3 and exceptions

2014-07-25 Thread Mandeep Dhami
Thanks for the deck Jay, that is very helpful. Also, would it help the process by having some clear guidelines/expectations around review time as well? In particular, if you have put a -1 or -2, and the issues that you have identified have been addressed by an update (or at least the original auth

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Specs approved for Juno-3 and exceptions

2014-07-25 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Steve Gordon wrote: > - Original Message - >> From: "Jay Pipes" >> To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org >> >> On 07/24/2014 10:05 AM, CARVER, PAUL wrote: >> > Alan Kavanagh wrote: >> > >> >> If we have more work being put on the table, then more Core >> >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Specs approved for Juno-3 and exceptions

2014-07-25 Thread Steve Gordon
- Original Message - > From: "Jay Pipes" > To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org > > On 07/24/2014 10:05 AM, CARVER, PAUL wrote: > > Alan Kavanagh wrote: > > > >> If we have more work being put on the table, then more Core > >> members would definitely go a long way with assisting this, w

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Specs approved for Juno-3 and exceptions

2014-07-24 Thread Jay Pipes
On 07/24/2014 10:05 AM, CARVER, PAUL wrote: Alan Kavanagh wrote: If we have more work being put on the table, then more Core members would definitely go a long way with assisting this, we cant wait for folks to be reviewing stuff as an excuse to not get features landed in a given release. We

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Specs approved for Juno-3 and exceptions

2014-07-24 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 07/23/2014 06:22 AM, Kyle Mestery wrote: > Thanks for sending this out Salvatore. We are way oversubscribed, > and at this point, I'm in agreement on not letting any new > exceptions which do not fall under the above guidelines. Given how > much is already packed in there, this makes the most se

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Specs approved for Juno-3 and exceptions

2014-07-24 Thread CARVER, PAUL
Alan Kavanagh wrote: >If we have more work being put on the table, then more Core members would >definitely go a long way with assisting this, we cant wait for folks to be >reviewing stuff as an excuse to not get features landed in a given release. Stability is absolutely essential so we can't f

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Specs approved for Juno-3 and exceptions

2014-07-23 Thread Alan Kavanagh
g the Openstack Board can take note of and jump in and try and resolve. Alan -Original Message- From: Kyle Mestery [mailto:mest...@mestery.com] Sent: July-23-14 9:23 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Specs approved

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Specs approved for Juno-3 and exceptions

2014-07-23 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 7:28 AM, Salvatore Orlando wrote: > I'm sure it is not news to anyone that we already have approved a too many > specifications for Juno-3. The PTL made clear indeed that "Low priority" > blueprints are considered best effort. > > However, this already leaves us with 23 med

[openstack-dev] [Neutron] Specs approved for Juno-3 and exceptions

2014-07-23 Thread Salvatore Orlando
I'm sure it is not news to anyone that we already have approved a too many specifications for Juno-3. The PTL made clear indeed that "Low priority" blueprints are considered best effort. However, this already leaves us with 23 medium to high specifications to merge in Juno-3. This is already quite