Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Cinder] Questions re progress

2015-03-19 Thread Eduard Matei
Hi Adam, Disclaimer: i work for a company interested in providing solutions based on openstack, but this email should not be considered marketing/promotional Regarding your second question "Using Swift as a back-end for Cinder", we already have a solution for this, a part of which is a Cinder dri

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Cinder] Questions re progress

2015-03-19 Thread Philipp Marek
> So others have/will chime in here... one thing I think is kinda missing in > the statement above is the "single host", that's actually the whole point > of Ceph and other vendor driven clustered storage technologies out there. > There's a ton to choose from at this point, open source as well as >

[openstack-dev] [Nova][Cinder] Questions re progress

2015-03-18 Thread Billy Olsen
Specifically to the point of Swift backend for Cinder... >From my understanding Swift was never intending to provide block-device abstractions the way that Ceph does. That's not to say that it couldn't, but it doesn't today. I wonder if you might be targeting the wrong audience by going to the Ci

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Cinder] Questions re progress

2015-03-18 Thread John Griffith
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Adam Lawson wrote: > The aim is cloud storage that isn't affected by a host failure and major > players who deploy hyper-scaling clouds architect them to prevent that from > happening. To me that's cloud 101. Physical machine goes down, data > disappears, VM's us

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Cinder] Questions re progress

2015-03-18 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Adam Lawson's message of 2015-03-18 11:25:37 -0700: > The aim is cloud storage that isn't affected by a host failure and major > players who deploy hyper-scaling clouds architect them to prevent that from > happening. To me that's cloud 101. Physical machine goes down, data > disappea

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Cinder] Questions re progress

2015-03-18 Thread Adam Lawson
The aim is cloud storage that isn't affected by a host failure and major players who deploy hyper-scaling clouds architect them to prevent that from happening. To me that's cloud 101. Physical machine goes down, data disappears, VM's using it fail and folks scratch their head and ask this was in th

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Cinder] Questions re progress

2015-03-18 Thread Duncan Thomas
I'm not sure of any particular benefit to trying to run cinder volumes over swift, and I'm a little confused by the aim - you'd do better to use something closer to purpose designed for the job if you want software fault tolerant block storage - ceph and drdb are the two open-source options I know

[openstack-dev] [Nova][Cinder] Questions re progress

2015-03-18 Thread Adam Lawson
Hi everyone, Got some questions for whether certain use cases have been addressed and if so, where things are at. A few things I find particularly interesting: - Automatic Nova evacuation for VM's using shared storage - Using Swift as a back-end for Cinder I know we discussed Nova evacuate