Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-18 Thread Fox, Kevin M
: foundat...@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting) Hi all, Magnum will have a fishbowl session to discuss if it makes sense to build a common abstraction layer for all COEs

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-18 Thread Hongbin Lu
nt: April-12-16 8:40 AM > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Cc: foundat...@lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] > One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting) > > On 1

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-14 Thread Bogdan Dobrelya
> On 04/11/2016 09:43 AM, Allison Randal wrote: >>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 1:11 PM, Davanum Srinivas >>> wrote: Reading unofficial notes [1], i found one topic very interesting: One Platform – How do we truly support containers and bare metal under a common API with VMs? (Ironic,

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-13 Thread Peng Zhao
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 11:33:21 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: foundat...@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting) Agreed. IMO

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-13 Thread Georgy Okrokvertskhov
At Mirantis we are playing with different technologies to explore possible ways of using containers. Recently we did some POC kind of work for integration existing OpenStack components with containers technologies. Here is a link for a demo. In this POC Nova API can

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-13 Thread Joshua Harlow
Thierry Carrez wrote: Fox, Kevin M wrote: I think my head just exploded. :) That idea's similar to neutron sfc stuff, where you just say what needs to connect to what, and it figures out the plumbing. Ideally, it would map somehow to heat & docker COE & neutron sfc to produce a final set of

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-13 Thread Fox, Kevin M
From: Peng Zhao Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 11:33:21 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: foundat...@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-13 Thread Michał Dulko
On 04/13/2016 11:16 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Fox, Kevin M wrote: >> I think my head just exploded. :) >> >> That idea's similar to neutron sfc stuff, where you just say what >> needs to connect to what, and it figures out the plumbing. >> >> Ideally, it would map somehow to heat & docker COE &

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-13 Thread Thierry Carrez
Fox, Kevin M wrote: I think my head just exploded. :) That idea's similar to neutron sfc stuff, where you just say what needs to connect to what, and it figures out the plumbing. Ideally, it would map somehow to heat & docker COE & neutron sfc to produce a final set of deployment scripts and

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-13 Thread Peng Zhao
s.openstack.org) is working on > some of that. > > Thanks, > Kevin > > ________________ > From: Joshua Harlow > [harlo...@fastmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 12:16 PM > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for > usage questions) > Cc:

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-12 Thread Joshua Harlow
: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 12:16 PM > To: Flavio Percoco; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Cc: foundat...@lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directo

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-12 Thread Peng Zhao
e of that. > > Thanks, > Kevin > > From: Joshua Harlow [harlo...@fastmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 12:16 PM OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Cc: foundat...@lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Found

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-12 Thread Devdatta Kulkarni
rlo...@fastmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 2:16 PM To: Flavio Percoco; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: foundat...@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors M

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-12 Thread Amrith Kumar
; > > > > > > >[1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-newton-summit-container > > > > > > > >From: Adrian Otto [mailto:adrian.o...@rackspace.com] > >Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 12:54 PM > >To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usa

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-12 Thread Joshua Harlow
rlow [harlo...@fastmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 2:23 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: foundat...@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Me

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-12 Thread Steve Baker
undat...@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting) Flavio Percoco wrote: On 11/04/16 18:05 +, Amrith Kumar wrote: Adrian, thx for your detailed mail. Yes, I was hopeful of

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-12 Thread Joshua Harlow
ing List (not for usage questions) Cc: foundat...@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting) Fox, Kevin M wrote: I think part of the problem is containers are mostly orthogonal to

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-12 Thread Fox, Kevin M
w [harlo...@fastmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 2:23 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: foundat...@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting) Fo

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-12 Thread Joshua Harlow
sday, April 12, 2016 12:16 PM To: Flavio Percoco; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: foundat...@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting) Flavio Perc

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-12 Thread Fox, Kevin M
OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: foundat...@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting) Flavio Percoco wrote: > On 11/04/16 18:05 +, Amrit

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-12 Thread Joshua Harlow
Flavio Percoco wrote: On 11/04/16 18:05 +, Amrith Kumar wrote: Adrian, thx for your detailed mail. Yes, I was hopeful of a silver bullet and as we’ve discussed before (I think it was Vancouver), there’s likely no silver bullet in this area. After that conversation, and some further

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-12 Thread Fox, Kevin M
Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: foundat...@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting) On 11/04/16 16:53 +, Adrian Otto wrote: >Amrith, > >I res

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-12 Thread Flavio Percoco
, April 11, 2016 12:54 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org> Cc: foundat...@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors M

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-12 Thread Flavio Percoco
va...@gmail.com>; foundat...@lists.openstack.org Cc: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Meta

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-11 Thread Hongbin Lu
ns) Cc: foundat...@lists.openstack.org<mailto:foundat...@lists.openstack.org> Subject: Re: [OpenStack Foundation] [openstack-dev] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting) Amrith, I respect your point of view, and agree that the idea of a common

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-11 Thread Adrian Otto
ck.org> Subject: Re: [OpenStack Foundation] [openstack-dev] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting) Amrith, I respect your point of view, and agree that the idea of a common compute API is attractive… until you think a bit deeper about what t

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-11 Thread Allison Randal
On 04/11/2016 02:51 PM, Fox, Kevin M wrote: > Yeah, I think there are two places where it may make sense. > > 1. Ironic's nova plugin is a lowst common denominator for treating a > physical host like a vm. Ironic's api is much more rich, but sometimes > all you need is the lowest common

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-11 Thread Fox, Kevin M
: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting) Sorry, I disagree. Magnum team doesn’t have consensus to reject the idea of unifying APIs from different container technology. In contrast, the idea of unified Container APIs

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-11 Thread Tim Bell
> > >From: Amrith Kumar [amr...@tesora.com] >Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 8:47 AM >To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions); Allison >Randal; Davanum Srinivas; foundat...@lists.openstack.org >Subject: Re: [openstac

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-11 Thread Hongbin Lu
t;mailto:foundat...@lists.openstack.org> Cc: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Met

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-11 Thread Amrith Kumar
(not for usage questions) <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org> Cc: foundat...@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting) Amrith, I respect your point of view, and agree that th

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-11 Thread Adrian Otto
ment Mailing List (not for usage questions) <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting) On 04/11/2016 09:43 AM

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-11 Thread Russell Bryant
On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Monty Taylor wrote: > On 04/11/2016 09:43 AM, Allison Randal wrote: > >> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 1:11 PM, Davanum Srinivas >>> wrote: >>> Reading unofficial notes [1], i found one topic very interesting: One

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-11 Thread Fox, Kevin M
(not for usage questions); Allison Randal; Davanum Srinivas; foundat...@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting) Monty, Dims, I read the notes and was similarly intrigued about the idea

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-11 Thread Amrith Kumar
List (not for usage questions) > <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org> > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One > Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting) > > On 04/11/2016 09:43 AM, Allison Randal wrote: > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-11 Thread Monty Taylor
On 04/11/2016 09:43 AM, Allison Randal wrote: On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 1:11 PM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: Reading unofficial notes [1], i found one topic very interesting: One Platform – How do we truly support containers and bare metal under a common API with VMs? (Ironic,

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-11 Thread Allison Randal
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 1:11 PM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: >> Reading unofficial notes [1], i found one topic very interesting: >> One Platform – How do we truly support containers and bare metal under >> a common API with VMs? (Ironic, Nova, adjacent communities e.g. >>