Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] [SIGS] Ops Tools SIG

2018-10-12 Thread Sean McGinnis
On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 11:25:20AM +0200, Martin Magr wrote:
> Greetings guys,
> 
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 4:19 PM, Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo <
> majop...@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > Adding the mailing lists back to your reply, thank you :)
> >
> > I guess that +melvin.hills...@huawei.com  can
> > help us a little bit organizing the SIG,
> > but I guess the first thing would be collecting a list of tools which
> > could be published
> > under the umbrella of the SIG, starting by the ones already in Osops.
> >
> > Publishing documentation for those tools, and the catalog under
> > docs.openstack.org
> > is possibly the next step (or a parallel step).
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 4:43 PM Rob McAllister 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Miguel,
> >>
> >> I would love to join this. What do I need to do?
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Oct 9, 2018, at 03:17, Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello
> >>
> >> Yesterday, during the Oslo meeting we discussed [6] the possibility
> >> of creating a new Special Interest Group [1][2] to provide home and release
> >> means for operator related tools [3] [4] [5]
> >>
> >>
>   all of those tools have python dependencies related to openstack such as
> python-openstackclient or python-pbr. Which is exactly the reason why we
> moved osops-tools-monitoring-oschecks packaging away from OpsTools SIG to
> Cloud SIG. AFAIR we had some issues of having opstools SIG being dependent
> on openstack SIG. I believe that Cloud SIG is proper home for tools like
> [3][4][5] as they are related to OpenStack anyway. OpsTools SIG contains
> general tools like fluentd, sensu, collectd.
> 
> 
> Hope this helps,
> Martin
> 

Hey Martin,

I'm not sure I understand the issue with these tools have dependencies on other
packages and the relationship to SIG ownership. Is your concern (or the history
of a concern you are pointing out) that the tools would have a more difficult
time if they required updates to dependencies if they are owned by a different
group?

Thanks!
Sean

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Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] [SIGS] Ops Tools SIG

2018-10-12 Thread Martin Magr
Greetings guys,

On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 4:19 PM, Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo <
majop...@redhat.com> wrote:

> Adding the mailing lists back to your reply, thank you :)
>
> I guess that +melvin.hills...@huawei.com  can
> help us a little bit organizing the SIG,
> but I guess the first thing would be collecting a list of tools which
> could be published
> under the umbrella of the SIG, starting by the ones already in Osops.
>
> Publishing documentation for those tools, and the catalog under
> docs.openstack.org
> is possibly the next step (or a parallel step).
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 4:43 PM Rob McAllister 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Miguel,
>>
>> I would love to join this. What do I need to do?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 9, 2018, at 03:17, Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello
>>
>> Yesterday, during the Oslo meeting we discussed [6] the possibility
>> of creating a new Special Interest Group [1][2] to provide home and release
>> means for operator related tools [3] [4] [5]
>>
>>
  all of those tools have python dependencies related to openstack such as
python-openstackclient or python-pbr. Which is exactly the reason why we
moved osops-tools-monitoring-oschecks packaging away from OpsTools SIG to
Cloud SIG. AFAIR we had some issues of having opstools SIG being dependent
on openstack SIG. I believe that Cloud SIG is proper home for tools like
[3][4][5] as they are related to OpenStack anyway. OpsTools SIG contains
general tools like fluentd, sensu, collectd.


Hope this helps,
Martin


>
>> I continued the discussion with M.Hillsman later, and he made me
>> aware of the operator working group and mailing list, which existed even
>> before the SIGs.
>>
>> I believe it could be a very good idea, to give life and more
>> visibility to all those very useful tools (for example, I didn't know some
>> of them existed ...).
>>
>>Give this, I have two questions:
>>
>>1) Do you know or more tools which could find home under an Ops Tools
>> SIG umbrella?
>>
>>2) Do you want to join us?
>>
>>
>> Best regards and have a great day.
>>
>>
>> [1] https://governance.openstack.org/sigs/
>> [2] http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance-
>> sigs/tree/sigs.yaml
>> [3] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Osops
>> [4] http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/ospurge/tree/
>> [5] http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/os-log-merger/tree/
>> [6] http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/
>> 2018/oslo.2018-10-08-15.00.log.html#l-130
>>
>>
>>
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>> OSP / Networking DFG, OVN Squad Engineering
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] [SIGS] Ops Tools SIG

2018-10-11 Thread Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo
Adding the mailing lists back to your reply, thank you :)

I guess that +melvin.hills...@huawei.com  can
help us a little bit organizing the SIG,
but I guess the first thing would be collecting a list of tools which could
be published
under the umbrella of the SIG, starting by the ones already in Osops.

Publishing documentation for those tools, and the catalog under
docs.openstack.org
is possibly the next step (or a parallel step).


On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 4:43 PM Rob McAllister  wrote:

> Hi Miguel,
>
> I would love to join this. What do I need to do?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 9, 2018, at 03:17, Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo 
> wrote:
>
> Hello
>
> Yesterday, during the Oslo meeting we discussed [6] the possibility of
> creating a new Special Interest Group [1][2] to provide home and release
> means for operator related tools [3] [4] [5]
>
> I continued the discussion with M.Hillsman later, and he made me aware
> of the operator working group and mailing list, which existed even before
> the SIGs.
>
> I believe it could be a very good idea, to give life and more
> visibility to all those very useful tools (for example, I didn't know some
> of them existed ...).
>
>Give this, I have two questions:
>
>1) Do you know or more tools which could find home under an Ops Tools
> SIG umbrella?
>
>2) Do you want to join us?
>
>
> Best regards and have a great day.
>
>
> [1] https://governance.openstack.org/sigs/
> [2] http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance-sigs/tree/sigs.yaml
> [3] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Osops
> [4] http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/ospurge/tree/
> [5] http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/os-log-merger/tree/
> [6]
> http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2018/oslo.2018-10-08-15.00.log.html#l-130
>
>
>
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> Miguel Ángel Ajo
> OSP / Networking DFG, OVN Squad Engineering
>
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