Re: [openstack-dev] [PTL] Designating required use upstream code

2014-02-06 Thread Thierry Carrez
Russell Bryant wrote: Perhaps going through this process for a single project first would be helpful. I agree that some clarification is needed on the details of the expected result. At this point, I think we can break their request into two separate questions. The first one is high level,

Re: [openstack-dev] [PTL] Designating required use upstream code

2014-02-06 Thread Thierry Carrez
Mark Washenberger wrote: I don't have any issue defining what I think of as typical extension / variation seams in the Glance code base. However, I'm still struggling to understand what all this means for our projects and our ecosystem. Basically, why do I care? What are the implications of a

Re: [openstack-dev] [PTL] Designating required use upstream code

2014-02-06 Thread Dolph Mathews
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.orgwrote: (This email is mostly directed to PTLs for programs that include one integrated project) The DefCore subcommittee from the OpenStack board of directors asked the Technical Committee yesterday about which code

Re: [openstack-dev] [PTL] Designating required use upstream code

2014-02-06 Thread Thierry Carrez
Dolph Mathews wrote: I'm curious about the level of granularity that's envisioned in each definition. Designated sections could be as broad as keystone.* or as narrow as keystone.token.controllers.Auth.validate_token_head(). It could be defined in terms of executables, package paths, or line

Re: [openstack-dev] [PTL] Designating required use upstream code

2014-02-06 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.orgwrote: Russell Bryant wrote: Perhaps going through this process for a single project first would be helpful. I agree that some clarification is needed on the details of the expected result. At this point, I think we can

Re: [openstack-dev] [PTL] Designating required use upstream code

2014-02-06 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.orgwrote: Dolph Mathews wrote: I'm curious about the level of granularity that's envisioned in each definition. Designated sections could be as broad as keystone.* or as narrow as

Re: [openstack-dev] [PTL] Designating required use upstream code

2014-02-06 Thread Jonathan Bryce
On Feb 6, 2014, at 8:08 AM, Dolph Mathews dolph.math...@gmail.com wrote: I'm curious about the level of granularity that's envisioned in each definition. Designated sections could be as broad as keystone.* or as narrow as keystone.token.controllers.Auth.validate_token_head(). It could be

[openstack-dev] [PTL] Designating required use upstream code

2014-02-05 Thread Thierry Carrez
(This email is mostly directed to PTLs for programs that include one integrated project) The DefCore subcommittee from the OpenStack board of directors asked the Technical Committee yesterday about which code sections in each integrated project should be designated sections in the sense of [1]

Re: [openstack-dev] [PTL] Designating required use upstream code

2014-02-05 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.orgwrote: (This email is mostly directed to PTLs for programs that include one integrated project) The DefCore subcommittee from the OpenStack board of directors asked the Technical Committee yesterday about which code

Re: [openstack-dev] [PTL] Designating required use upstream code

2014-02-05 Thread Russell Bryant
On 02/05/2014 11:22 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: (This email is mostly directed to PTLs for programs that include one integrated project) The DefCore subcommittee from the OpenStack board of directors asked the Technical Committee yesterday about which code sections in each integrated project

Re: [openstack-dev] [PTL] Designating required use upstream code

2014-02-05 Thread Russell Bryant
On 02/05/2014 11:55 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org mailto:thie...@openstack.org wrote: (This email is mostly directed to PTLs for programs that include one integrated project) The DefCore subcommittee from

Re: [openstack-dev] [PTL] Designating required use upstream code

2014-02-05 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Wed, 2014-02-05 at 17:22 +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: (This email is mostly directed to PTLs for programs that include one integrated project) The DefCore subcommittee from the OpenStack board of directors asked the Technical Committee yesterday about which code sections in each

Re: [openstack-dev] [PTL] Designating required use upstream code

2014-02-05 Thread Thierry Carrez
Russell Bryant wrote: Who gets final say if there's strong disagreement between a PTL and the TC? Hopefully this won't matter, but it may be useful to go ahead and clear this up front. I suspect that would be as usual. PTL has final say over his project matters. The TC can just wield the

Re: [openstack-dev] [PTL] Designating required use upstream code

2014-02-05 Thread Jonathan Bryce
On Feb 5, 2014, at 11:12 AM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote: I don't have a big issue with the way the Foundation currently enforces you must use the code - anyone who signs a trademark agreement with the Foundation agrees to include the entirety of Nova's code. That's very vague,

Re: [openstack-dev] [PTL] Designating required use upstream code

2014-02-05 Thread Mark Washenberger
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 8:22 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.orgwrote: (This email is mostly directed to PTLs for programs that include one integrated project) The DefCore subcommittee from the OpenStack board of directors asked the Technical Committee yesterday about which code sections

Re: [openstack-dev] [PTL] Designating required use upstream code

2014-02-05 Thread Russell Bryant
On 02/05/2014 12:54 PM, Jonathan Bryce wrote: On Feb 5, 2014, at 11:12 AM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote: I don't have a big issue with the way the Foundation currently enforces you must use the code - anyone who signs a trademark agreement with the Foundation agrees to include the

Re: [openstack-dev] [PTL] Designating required use upstream code

2014-02-05 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 02/05/2014 11:22 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: (This email is mostly directed to PTLs for programs that include one integrated project) The DefCore subcommittee from the OpenStack board of directors asked the

Re: [openstack-dev] [PTL] Designating required use upstream code

2014-02-05 Thread Rochelle.RochelleGrober
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.commailto:rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 02/05/2014 11:22 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: (This email is mostly directed to PTLs for programs that include one integrated project) The DefCore subcommittee from the OpenStack board of

Re: [openstack-dev] [PTL] Designating required use upstream code

2014-02-05 Thread John Griffith
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 5:54 PM, Rochelle.RochelleGrober rochelle.gro...@huawei.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 02/05/2014 11:22 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: (This email is mostly directed to PTLs for programs that include one integrated