Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Ironic] [Heat] Mid-cycle collaborative meetup

[Jordan OMara]

On 10/06/14 17:15 +1200, Robert Collins wrote:

That seems pretty solid reasoning; +1 from me no July 21-25th; I know
not everyone can attend - but with the size of the team every
situation will have some folk that can't play.

What do we need to do to lock this in to RedHat's venue schedule?

-Rob



I'm working on this now, I'll keep the etherpad updated with
information as I get it.
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Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Ironic] [Heat] Mid-cycle collaborative meetup

[Jaromir Coufal]

On 2014/10/06 10:25, Clint Byrum wrote:

Excerpts from Jaromir Coufal's message of 2014-06-08 16:44:58 -0700:

Hi,

it looks that there is no more activity on the survey for mid-cycle
dates so I went forward to evaluate it.

I created a table view into the etherpad [0] and results are following:
* option1 (Jul 28 - Aug 1): 27 attendees - collides with Nova/Ironic
* option2 (Jul 21-25) : 27 attendees
* option3 (Jul 25-29) : 17 attendees - collides with Nova/Ironic
* option4 (Aug 11-15) : 13 attendees

I think that we can remove options 3 and 4 from the consideration,
because there is lot of people who can't make it. So we have option1 and
option2 left. Since Robert and Devananda (PTLs on the projects) can't
make option1, which also conflicts with Nova/Ironic meetup, I think it
is pretty straightforward.

Based on the survey the winning date for the mid-cycle meetup is
option2: July 21th - 25th.

Does anybody have very strong reason why we shouldn't fix the date for
option2 and proceed forward with the organization for the meetup?



July 21-25 is also the shortest notice. I will not be able to attend
as plans have already been made for the summer and I've already been
travelling quite a bit recently, after all we were all just at the summit
a few weeks ago.

I question the reasoning that being close to FF is a bad thing, and
suggest adding much later dates. But I understand since the chosen dates
are so close, there is a need to make a decision immediately.

Alternatively, I suggest that we split Heat out of this, and aim at
later dates in August.


Hi Clint,

here is the challenge:

I tried to get feedback as soon as possible. We are not able to satisfy 
everybody's restrictions. During summer everybody is planning for 
vacation and it is impossible to find a time which works for all. I was 
reading your restrictions in the etherpad and it is excluding options 
from the end of July until second half of August. So I didn't expect 
that option 2 would conflict with your plans.


In August folks usually have scheduled private time off so it will be 
much worse than July to find some date. Just look at restrictions and on 
August's dates proposal, how the number of attendees decreased.


Furthermore, why I am against being close to FF is that TripleO itself 
is not restricted by FF but the project is dependent on various other 
projects for which FF applies to. So being in the middle of the feature 
proposal milestone makes sense for us to plan forward. What benefit from 
the meetup do we get if we can't discuss, propose and get needed 
features in?


Options 1, 3 and 4 are out of the question. I am sure that if we do it 
in the end of August we will for sure lose various attendees (probably 
more than in July) and furthermore we will not be able to propose new 
features and neither get them in.


As you mentioned, we need to make a decision immediately. The etherpad 
was on for a while and I had various discussions in the meantime. It 
seems that July 21-25 makes the biggest sense and allows majority people 
to attend.


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Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Ironic] [Heat] Mid-cycle collaborative meetup

[Tomas Sedovic]

On 10/06/14 10:25, Clint Byrum wrote:
> Excerpts from Jaromir Coufal's message of 2014-06-08 16:44:58 -0700:
>> Hi,
>>
>> it looks that there is no more activity on the survey for mid-cycle 
>> dates so I went forward to evaluate it.
>>
>> I created a table view into the etherpad [0] and results are following:
>> * option1 (Jul 28 - Aug 1): 27 attendees - collides with Nova/Ironic
>> * option2 (Jul 21-25) : 27 attendees
>> * option3 (Jul 25-29) : 17 attendees - collides with Nova/Ironic
>> * option4 (Aug 11-15) : 13 attendees
>>
>> I think that we can remove options 3 and 4 from the consideration, 
>> because there is lot of people who can't make it. So we have option1 and 
>> option2 left. Since Robert and Devananda (PTLs on the projects) can't 
>> make option1, which also conflicts with Nova/Ironic meetup, I think it 
>> is pretty straightforward.
>>
>> Based on the survey the winning date for the mid-cycle meetup is 
>> option2: July 21th - 25th.
>>
>> Does anybody have very strong reason why we shouldn't fix the date for 
>> option2 and proceed forward with the organization for the meetup?
>>
> 
> July 21-25 is also the shortest notice. I will not be able to attend
> as plans have already been made for the summer and I've already been
> travelling quite a bit recently, after all we were all just at the summit
> a few weeks ago.
> 
> I question the reasoning that being close to FF is a bad thing, and
> suggest adding much later dates. But I understand since the chosen dates
> are so close, there is a need to make a decision immediately.
> 
> Alternatively, I suggest that we split Heat out of this, and aim at
> later dates in August.

Apologies for not participating earlier, I wasn't sure I'd be able to go
until now.

July 21th - 25th doesn't work for me at all (wedding). Any later date
should be okay so I second both of Clint's suggestions.



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Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Ironic] [Heat] Mid-cycle collaborative meetup

[Clint Byrum]

Excerpts from Jaromir Coufal's message of 2014-06-08 16:44:58 -0700:
> Hi,
> 
> it looks that there is no more activity on the survey for mid-cycle 
> dates so I went forward to evaluate it.
> 
> I created a table view into the etherpad [0] and results are following:
> * option1 (Jul 28 - Aug 1): 27 attendees - collides with Nova/Ironic
> * option2 (Jul 21-25) : 27 attendees
> * option3 (Jul 25-29) : 17 attendees - collides with Nova/Ironic
> * option4 (Aug 11-15) : 13 attendees
> 
> I think that we can remove options 3 and 4 from the consideration, 
> because there is lot of people who can't make it. So we have option1 and 
> option2 left. Since Robert and Devananda (PTLs on the projects) can't 
> make option1, which also conflicts with Nova/Ironic meetup, I think it 
> is pretty straightforward.
> 
> Based on the survey the winning date for the mid-cycle meetup is 
> option2: July 21th - 25th.
> 
> Does anybody have very strong reason why we shouldn't fix the date for 
> option2 and proceed forward with the organization for the meetup?
> 

July 21-25 is also the shortest notice. I will not be able to attend
as plans have already been made for the summer and I've already been
travelling quite a bit recently, after all we were all just at the summit
a few weeks ago.

I question the reasoning that being close to FF is a bad thing, and
suggest adding much later dates. But I understand since the chosen dates
are so close, there is a need to make a decision immediately.

Alternatively, I suggest that we split Heat out of this, and aim at
later dates in August.

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Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Ironic] [Heat] Mid-cycle collaborative meetup

[Robert Collins]

That seems pretty solid reasoning; +1 from me no July 21-25th; I know
not everyone can attend - but with the size of the team every
situation will have some folk that can't play.

What do we need to do to lock this in to RedHat's venue schedule?

-Rob

On 9 June 2014 11:44, Jaromir Coufal  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> it looks that there is no more activity on the survey for mid-cycle dates so
> I went forward to evaluate it.
>
> I created a table view into the etherpad [0] and results are following:
> * option1 (Jul 28 - Aug 1): 27 attendees - collides with Nova/Ironic
> * option2 (Jul 21-25) : 27 attendees
> * option3 (Jul 25-29) : 17 attendees - collides with Nova/Ironic
> * option4 (Aug 11-15) : 13 attendees
>
> I think that we can remove options 3 and 4 from the consideration, because
> there is lot of people who can't make it. So we have option1 and option2
> left. Since Robert and Devananda (PTLs on the projects) can't make option1,
> which also conflicts with Nova/Ironic meetup, I think it is pretty
> straightforward.
>
> Based on the survey the winning date for the mid-cycle meetup is option2:
> July 21th - 25th.
>
> Does anybody have very strong reason why we shouldn't fix the date for
> option2 and proceed forward with the organization for the meetup?
>
> Thanks for all the interest
>
> -- Jarda
>
> [0] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-midcycle-meetup
>
>
> On 2014/28/05 13:05, Jaromir Coufal wrote:
>>
>> Hi to all,
>>
>> after previous TripleO & Ironic mid-cycle meetup, which I believe was
>> beneficial for all, I would like to suggest that we meet again in the
>> middle of Juno cycle to discuss current progress, blockers, next steps
>> and of course get some beer all together :)
>>
>> Last time, TripleO and Ironic merged their meetings together and I think
>> it was great idea. This time I would like to invite also Heat team if
>> they want to join. Our cooperation is increasing and I think it would be
>> great, if we can discuss all issues together.
>>
>> Red Hat offered to host this event, so I am very happy to invite you all
>> and I would like to ask, who would come if there was a mid-cycle meetup
>> in following dates and place:
>>
>> * July 28 - Aug 1
>> * Red Hat office, Raleigh, North Carolina
>>
>> If you are intending to join, please, fill yourselves into this etherpad:
>> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-midcycle-meetup
>>
>> Cheers
>> -- Jarda
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Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Ironic] [Heat] Mid-cycle collaborative meetup

[Jaromir Coufal]

Hi,

it looks that there is no more activity on the survey for mid-cycle 
dates so I went forward to evaluate it.


I created a table view into the etherpad [0] and results are following:
* option1 (Jul 28 - Aug 1): 27 attendees - collides with Nova/Ironic
* option2 (Jul 21-25) : 27 attendees
* option3 (Jul 25-29) : 17 attendees - collides with Nova/Ironic
* option4 (Aug 11-15) : 13 attendees

I think that we can remove options 3 and 4 from the consideration, 
because there is lot of people who can't make it. So we have option1 and 
option2 left. Since Robert and Devananda (PTLs on the projects) can't 
make option1, which also conflicts with Nova/Ironic meetup, I think it 
is pretty straightforward.


Based on the survey the winning date for the mid-cycle meetup is 
option2: July 21th - 25th.


Does anybody have very strong reason why we shouldn't fix the date for 
option2 and proceed forward with the organization for the meetup?


Thanks for all the interest
-- Jarda

[0] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-midcycle-meetup


On 2014/28/05 13:05, Jaromir Coufal wrote:

Hi to all,

after previous TripleO & Ironic mid-cycle meetup, which I believe was
beneficial for all, I would like to suggest that we meet again in the
middle of Juno cycle to discuss current progress, blockers, next steps
and of course get some beer all together :)

Last time, TripleO and Ironic merged their meetings together and I think
it was great idea. This time I would like to invite also Heat team if
they want to join. Our cooperation is increasing and I think it would be
great, if we can discuss all issues together.

Red Hat offered to host this event, so I am very happy to invite you all
and I would like to ask, who would come if there was a mid-cycle meetup
in following dates and place:

* July 28 - Aug 1
* Red Hat office, Raleigh, North Carolina

If you are intending to join, please, fill yourselves into this etherpad:
https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-midcycle-meetup

Cheers
-- Jarda

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Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Ironic] [Heat] Mid-cycle collaborative meetup

[Jaromir Coufal]

Yeah, Robert is right. I think, everybody who is approved by his 
employer (or is expected to be approved) should enter his constraints. 
So realistically enter dates when you would be able to attend.


Personal view: after Aug 11th, we will have about 3 weeks to feature 
freeze which is very late I would say. I would better target the meetup 
to July.


-- Jarda



On 2014/02/06 22:52, Robert Collins wrote:

I think you should add the constraints you have.

Realistically though, not every will be there, and thats fine. There
are some folk we'll need there (e.g. I suspect I'm one of those, but
maybe not!)

My constraints are:
- need to be in Sydney for the 1st-5th, remembering there is an
international date line between NC and Sydney.
- need to be home for most of a week between the mid cycle meetup and
PyCon AU (family).

So I can do anytime from Aug 11th on, or anytime ending before or on
July the 25th - and I'm going to put that in the etherpad now :0

-Rob



On 3 June 2014 04:51, Ben Nemec  wrote:

On 05/30/2014 06:58 AM, Jaromir Coufal wrote:

On 2014/30/05 10:00, Thomas Spatzier wrote:

Excerpt from Zane Bitter's message on 29/05/2014 20:57:10:


From: Zane Bitter 
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
Date: 29/05/2014 20:59
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Ironic] [Heat] Mid-cycle
collaborative meetup



BTW one timing option I haven't seen mentioned is to follow Pycon-AU's
model of running e.g. Friday-Tuesday (July 25-29). I know nobody wants
to be stuck in Raleigh, NC on a weekend (I've lived there, I understand
;), but for folks who have a long ways to travel it's one weekend lost
instead of two.


+1 - excellent idea!


It looks that there is an interest in these dates, so I added 3rd option
to the etherpad [0].

For one more time, I would like to ask potential attendees to put
yourselves to dates which would work for you.

-- Jarda

[0] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-midcycle-meetup


Just to clarify, I should add my name to the list if I _can_ make it to
a given proposal, even if I don't know for sure that I will be going?

I don't know what the travel situation is yet so I can't commit to being
there on any dates, but I can certainly say which dates would work for
me if I can make it.

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Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Ironic] [Heat] Mid-cycle collaborative meetup

[Robert Collins]

I think you should add the constraints you have.

Realistically though, not every will be there, and thats fine. There
are some folk we'll need there (e.g. I suspect I'm one of those, but
maybe not!)

My constraints are:
- need to be in Sydney for the 1st-5th, remembering there is an
international date line between NC and Sydney.
- need to be home for most of a week between the mid cycle meetup and
PyCon AU (family).

So I can do anytime from Aug 11th on, or anytime ending before or on
July the 25th - and I'm going to put that in the etherpad now :0

-Rob



On 3 June 2014 04:51, Ben Nemec  wrote:
> On 05/30/2014 06:58 AM, Jaromir Coufal wrote:
>> On 2014/30/05 10:00, Thomas Spatzier wrote:
>>> Excerpt from Zane Bitter's message on 29/05/2014 20:57:10:
>>>
>>>> From: Zane Bitter 
>>>> To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
>>>> Date: 29/05/2014 20:59
>>>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Ironic] [Heat] Mid-cycle
>>>> collaborative meetup
>>> 
>>>> BTW one timing option I haven't seen mentioned is to follow Pycon-AU's
>>>> model of running e.g. Friday-Tuesday (July 25-29). I know nobody wants
>>>> to be stuck in Raleigh, NC on a weekend (I've lived there, I understand
>>>> ;), but for folks who have a long ways to travel it's one weekend lost
>>>> instead of two.
>>>
>>> +1 - excellent idea!
>>
>> It looks that there is an interest in these dates, so I added 3rd option
>> to the etherpad [0].
>>
>> For one more time, I would like to ask potential attendees to put
>> yourselves to dates which would work for you.
>>
>> -- Jarda
>>
>> [0] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-midcycle-meetup
>
> Just to clarify, I should add my name to the list if I _can_ make it to
> a given proposal, even if I don't know for sure that I will be going?
>
> I don't know what the travel situation is yet so I can't commit to being
> there on any dates, but I can certainly say which dates would work for
> me if I can make it.
>
> -Ben
>
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Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Ironic] [Heat] Mid-cycle collaborative meetup

[Ben Nemec]

On 05/30/2014 06:58 AM, Jaromir Coufal wrote:
> On 2014/30/05 10:00, Thomas Spatzier wrote:
>> Excerpt from Zane Bitter's message on 29/05/2014 20:57:10:
>>
>>> From: Zane Bitter 
>>> To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
>>> Date: 29/05/2014 20:59
>>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Ironic] [Heat] Mid-cycle
>>> collaborative meetup
>> 
>>> BTW one timing option I haven't seen mentioned is to follow Pycon-AU's
>>> model of running e.g. Friday-Tuesday (July 25-29). I know nobody wants
>>> to be stuck in Raleigh, NC on a weekend (I've lived there, I understand
>>> ;), but for folks who have a long ways to travel it's one weekend lost
>>> instead of two.
>>
>> +1 - excellent idea!
> 
> It looks that there is an interest in these dates, so I added 3rd option 
> to the etherpad [0].
> 
> For one more time, I would like to ask potential attendees to put 
> yourselves to dates which would work for you.
> 
> -- Jarda
> 
> [0] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-midcycle-meetup

Just to clarify, I should add my name to the list if I _can_ make it to
a given proposal, even if I don't know for sure that I will be going?

I don't know what the travel situation is yet so I can't commit to being
there on any dates, but I can certainly say which dates would work for
me if I can make it.

-Ben


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Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Ironic] [Heat] Mid-cycle collaborative meetup

[Jaromir Coufal]

On 2014/30/05 10:00, Thomas Spatzier wrote:

Excerpt from Zane Bitter's message on 29/05/2014 20:57:10:


From: Zane Bitter 
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
Date: 29/05/2014 20:59
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Ironic] [Heat] Mid-cycle
collaborative meetup



BTW one timing option I haven't seen mentioned is to follow Pycon-AU's
model of running e.g. Friday-Tuesday (July 25-29). I know nobody wants
to be stuck in Raleigh, NC on a weekend (I've lived there, I understand
;), but for folks who have a long ways to travel it's one weekend lost
instead of two.


+1 - excellent idea!


It looks that there is an interest in these dates, so I added 3rd option 
to the etherpad [0].


For one more time, I would like to ask potential attendees to put 
yourselves to dates which would work for you.


-- Jarda

[0] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-midcycle-meetup

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Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Ironic] [Heat] Mid-cycle collaborative meetup

[Jaromir Coufal]

On 2014/29/05 20:57, Zane Bitter wrote:

On 29/05/14 13:33, Mike Spreitzer wrote:

Devananda van der Veen  wrote on 05/29/2014
01:26:12 PM:

 > Hi Jaromir,
 >
 > I agree that the midcycle meetup with TripleO and Ironic was very
 > beneficial last cycle, but this cycle, Ironic is co-locating its
 > sprint with Nova. Our focus needs to be working with them to merge
 > the nova.virt.ironic driver. Details will be forthcoming as we work
 > out the exact details with Nova. That said, I'll try to make the
 > TripleO sprint as well -- assuming the dates don't overlap.
 >
 > Cheers,
 > Devananda
 >

 > On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Jaromir Coufal 
wrote:
 > Hi to all,
 >
 > after previous TripleO & Ironic mid-cycle meetup, which I believe
 > was beneficial for all, I would like to suggest that we meet again
 > in the middle of Juno cycle to discuss current progress, blockers,
 > next steps and of course get some beer all together :)
 >
 > Last time, TripleO and Ironic merged their meetings together and I
 > think it was great idea. This time I would like to invite also Heat
 > team if they want to join. Our cooperation is increasing and I think
 > it would be great, if we can discuss all issues together.
 >
 > Red Hat offered to host this event, so I am very happy to invite you
 > all and I would like to ask, who would come if there was a mid-cycle
 > meetup in following dates and place:
 >
 > * July 28 - Aug 1
 > * Red Hat office, Raleigh, North Carolina
 >
 > If you are intending to join, please, fill yourselves into this
etherpad:
 > https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-midcycle-meetup
 >
 > Cheers
 > -- Jarda

Given the organizers, I assume this will be strongly focused on TripleO
and Ironic.
Would this be a good venue for all the mid-cycle discussion that will be
relevant to Heat?
Is anyone planning a distinct Heat-focused mid-cycle meetup?


We haven't had one in the past, but the project is getting bigger so,
given our need to sync with the TripleO folks anyway, this may be a good
opportunity to try. Certainly it's unlikely that any Heat developers
attending will spend the _whole_ week working with the TripleO team, so
there should be time to do something like what you're suggesting. I
think we just need to see who is willing & able to attend, and work out
an agenda on that basis.


Last time we managed to work also on the items not related to other 
projects. So I think it is just matter of putting together an agenda. 
Each team can work on their own, schedule cross-project topics and huge 
benefit is that we can discuss interrelated issues directly with members 
of other teams easily and anytime because we can get up and approach 
anybody face-to-face.


-- Jarda

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Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Ironic] [Heat] Mid-cycle collaborative meetup

[Thomas Spatzier]

Excerpt from Zane Bitter's message on 29/05/2014 20:57:10:

> From: Zane Bitter 
> To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
> Date: 29/05/2014 20:59
> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Ironic] [Heat] Mid-cycle
> collaborative meetup

> BTW one timing option I haven't seen mentioned is to follow Pycon-AU's
> model of running e.g. Friday-Tuesday (July 25-29). I know nobody wants
> to be stuck in Raleigh, NC on a weekend (I've lived there, I understand
> ;), but for folks who have a long ways to travel it's one weekend lost
> instead of two.

+1 - excellent idea!

>
> cheers,
> Zane.
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Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Ironic] [Heat] Mid-cycle collaborative meetup

[James Polley]

On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 4:57 AM, Zane Bitter  wrote:

> On 29/05/14 13:33, Mike Spreitzer wrote:
>
>> Devananda van der Veen  wrote on 05/29/2014
>> 01:26:12 PM:
>>
>>  > Hi Jaromir,
>>  >
>>  > I agree that the midcycle meetup with TripleO and Ironic was very
>>  > beneficial last cycle, but this cycle, Ironic is co-locating its
>>  > sprint with Nova. Our focus needs to be working with them to merge
>>  > the nova.virt.ironic driver. Details will be forthcoming as we work
>>  > out the exact details with Nova. That said, I'll try to make the
>>  > TripleO sprint as well -- assuming the dates don't overlap.
>>  >
>>  > Cheers,
>>  > Devananda
>>  >
>>
>>  > On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Jaromir Coufal 
>> wrote:
>>  > Hi to all,
>>  >
>>  > after previous TripleO & Ironic mid-cycle meetup, which I believe
>>  > was beneficial for all, I would like to suggest that we meet again
>>  > in the middle of Juno cycle to discuss current progress, blockers,
>>  > next steps and of course get some beer all together :)
>>  >
>>  > Last time, TripleO and Ironic merged their meetings together and I
>>  > think it was great idea. This time I would like to invite also Heat
>>  > team if they want to join. Our cooperation is increasing and I think
>>  > it would be great, if we can discuss all issues together.
>>  >
>>  > Red Hat offered to host this event, so I am very happy to invite you
>>  > all and I would like to ask, who would come if there was a mid-cycle
>>  > meetup in following dates and place:
>>  >
>>  > * July 28 - Aug 1
>>  > * Red Hat office, Raleigh, North Carolina
>>  >
>>  > If you are intending to join, please, fill yourselves into this
>> etherpad:
>>  > https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-midcycle-meetup
>>  >
>>  > Cheers
>>  > -- Jarda
>>
>> Given the organizers, I assume this will be strongly focused on TripleO
>> and Ironic.
>> Would this be a good venue for all the mid-cycle discussion that will be
>> relevant to Heat?
>> Is anyone planning a distinct Heat-focused mid-cycle meetup?
>>
>
> We haven't had one in the past, but the project is getting bigger so,
> given our need to sync with the TripleO folks anyway, this may be a good
> opportunity to try. Certainly it's unlikely that any Heat developers
> attending will spend the _whole_ week working with the TripleO team, so
> there should be time to do something like what you're suggesting. I think
> we just need to see who is willing & able to attend, and work out an agenda
> on that basis.
>
> For my part, I will certainly be there for the whole week if it's July 28
> - Aug 1. If it's the week before I may not be able to make it at all.
>
> BTW one timing option I haven't seen mentioned is to follow Pycon-AU's
> model of running e.g. Friday-Tuesday (July 25-29). I know nobody wants to
> be stuck in Raleigh, NC on a weekend (I've lived there, I understand ;),
> but for folks who have a long ways to travel it's one weekend lost instead
> of two.
>

I quite like this idea. Yes, it means a weekend in Raleigh, but that's
better than spending 1.5 weekends on a plane, which is what I have to do at
the moment. I'll still be spending just as much time on a plane, but doing
it during the week has less of an impact on my work/life balance.

Alternatively maybe we can find somewhere to host the next mid-cycle Down
Under ;)


> cheers,
> Zane.
>
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Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Ironic] [Heat] Mid-cycle collaborative meetup

[Zane Bitter]

On 29/05/14 13:33, Mike Spreitzer wrote:

Devananda van der Veen  wrote on 05/29/2014
01:26:12 PM:

 > Hi Jaromir,
 >
 > I agree that the midcycle meetup with TripleO and Ironic was very
 > beneficial last cycle, but this cycle, Ironic is co-locating its
 > sprint with Nova. Our focus needs to be working with them to merge
 > the nova.virt.ironic driver. Details will be forthcoming as we work
 > out the exact details with Nova. That said, I'll try to make the
 > TripleO sprint as well -- assuming the dates don't overlap.
 >
 > Cheers,
 > Devananda
 >

 > On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Jaromir Coufal 
wrote:
 > Hi to all,
 >
 > after previous TripleO & Ironic mid-cycle meetup, which I believe
 > was beneficial for all, I would like to suggest that we meet again
 > in the middle of Juno cycle to discuss current progress, blockers,
 > next steps and of course get some beer all together :)
 >
 > Last time, TripleO and Ironic merged their meetings together and I
 > think it was great idea. This time I would like to invite also Heat
 > team if they want to join. Our cooperation is increasing and I think
 > it would be great, if we can discuss all issues together.
 >
 > Red Hat offered to host this event, so I am very happy to invite you
 > all and I would like to ask, who would come if there was a mid-cycle
 > meetup in following dates and place:
 >
 > * July 28 - Aug 1
 > * Red Hat office, Raleigh, North Carolina
 >
 > If you are intending to join, please, fill yourselves into this etherpad:
 > https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-midcycle-meetup
 >
 > Cheers
 > -- Jarda

Given the organizers, I assume this will be strongly focused on TripleO
and Ironic.
Would this be a good venue for all the mid-cycle discussion that will be
relevant to Heat?
Is anyone planning a distinct Heat-focused mid-cycle meetup?


We haven't had one in the past, but the project is getting bigger so, 
given our need to sync with the TripleO folks anyway, this may be a good 
opportunity to try. Certainly it's unlikely that any Heat developers 
attending will spend the _whole_ week working with the TripleO team, so 
there should be time to do something like what you're suggesting. I 
think we just need to see who is willing & able to attend, and work out 
an agenda on that basis.


For my part, I will certainly be there for the whole week if it's July 
28 - Aug 1. If it's the week before I may not be able to make it at all.


BTW one timing option I haven't seen mentioned is to follow Pycon-AU's 
model of running e.g. Friday-Tuesday (July 25-29). I know nobody wants 
to be stuck in Raleigh, NC on a weekend (I've lived there, I understand 
;), but for folks who have a long ways to travel it's one weekend lost 
instead of two.


cheers,
Zane.

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Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Ironic] [Heat] Mid-cycle collaborative meetup

[Mike Spreitzer]

Devananda van der Veen  wrote on 05/29/2014 
01:26:12 PM:

> Hi Jaromir,
> 
> I agree that the midcycle meetup with TripleO and Ironic was very 
> beneficial last cycle, but this cycle, Ironic is co-locating its 
> sprint with Nova. Our focus needs to be working with them to merge 
> the nova.virt.ironic driver. Details will be forthcoming as we work 
> out the exact details with Nova. That said, I'll try to make the 
> TripleO sprint as well -- assuming the dates don't overlap.
> 
> Cheers,
> Devananda
> 

> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Jaromir Coufal  
wrote:
> Hi to all,
> 
> after previous TripleO & Ironic mid-cycle meetup, which I believe 
> was beneficial for all, I would like to suggest that we meet again 
> in the middle of Juno cycle to discuss current progress, blockers, 
> next steps and of course get some beer all together :)
> 
> Last time, TripleO and Ironic merged their meetings together and I 
> think it was great idea. This time I would like to invite also Heat 
> team if they want to join. Our cooperation is increasing and I think
> it would be great, if we can discuss all issues together.
> 
> Red Hat offered to host this event, so I am very happy to invite you
> all and I would like to ask, who would come if there was a mid-cycle
> meetup in following dates and place:
> 
> * July 28 - Aug 1
> * Red Hat office, Raleigh, North Carolina
> 
> If you are intending to join, please, fill yourselves into this 
etherpad:
> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-midcycle-meetup
> 
> Cheers
> -- Jarda

Given the organizers, I assume this will be strongly focused on TripleO 
and Ironic.
Would this be a good venue for all the mid-cycle discussion that will be 
relevant to Heat?
Is anyone planning a distinct Heat-focused mid-cycle meetup?

Thanks,
Mike

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Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Ironic] [Heat] Mid-cycle collaborative meetup

[Devananda van der Veen]

On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:42 PM, Robert Collins
wrote:

> Is there any wiggle room on those dates? As James Polley says, PyCon
> AU (and the Openstack miniconf, which I'm organising with JHesketh)
> overlap significantly - and I can't be in two places at once.
>
> However July 21-25th would be totally doable :)
>
>
FWIW, that's a direct overlap with OSCON, which may be an issue for some
folks (like me).

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Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Ironic] [Heat] Mid-cycle collaborative meetup

[Devananda van der Veen]

Hi Jaromir,

I agree that the midcycle meetup with TripleO and Ironic was very
beneficial last cycle, but this cycle, Ironic is co-locating its sprint
with Nova. Our focus needs to be working with them to merge the
nova.virt.ironic driver. Details will be forthcoming as we work out the
exact details with Nova. That said, I'll try to make the TripleO sprint as
well -- assuming the dates don't overlap.

Cheers,
Devananda


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Jaromir Coufal  wrote:

> Hi to all,
>
> after previous TripleO & Ironic mid-cycle meetup, which I believe was
> beneficial for all, I would like to suggest that we meet again in the
> middle of Juno cycle to discuss current progress, blockers, next steps and
> of course get some beer all together :)
>
> Last time, TripleO and Ironic merged their meetings together and I think
> it was great idea. This time I would like to invite also Heat team if they
> want to join. Our cooperation is increasing and I think it would be great,
> if we can discuss all issues together.
>
> Red Hat offered to host this event, so I am very happy to invite you all
> and I would like to ask, who would come if there was a mid-cycle meetup in
> following dates and place:
>
> * July 28 - Aug 1
> * Red Hat office, Raleigh, North Carolina
>
> If you are intending to join, please, fill yourselves into this etherpad:
> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-midcycle-meetup
>
> Cheers
> -- Jarda
>
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Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Ironic] [Heat] Mid-cycle collaborative meetup

[Jaromir Coufal]

Hi James,

that's a good point. I just restructured the etherpad so that there are 
3 sections: one is for July 28 - Aug 1, second is for July 21-25 and 
third one is for those who want to attend but can't make it within 
suggested dates. So I would like to encourage everybody who is willing 
to attend to put himself into the slots when he can (so if both weeks 
work for you, please enter yourself into both lists).


Thanks
-- Jarda

On 2014/29/05 08:07, James Polley wrote:

Thanks for putting this together Jaromir!

August 1 may be a problem for those of us from Australia - it's the day
of the OpenStack miniconf at Pycon-AU.

I don't know if any of us intended to go to that, but if we did we'd
need to leave no later than the 4:40pm flight on July 30 in order to
make it back in time - and that would have us arriving in Brisbane at
7am on the day of the miniconf.

If we stayed till midday Friday and caught the 4:40pm flight out, we'd
arrive in BNE at 7am on the 3rd - just in time for the last day of talks
and the two days of sprints.

As I said, I'm not sure how many other people from this part of the
world had intended to go to Pycon-AU and the openstack miniconf, so I'm
not sure how much of a problem this is.


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 9:05 PM, Jaromir Coufal mailto:jcou...@redhat.com>> wrote:

Hi to all,

after previous TripleO & Ironic mid-cycle meetup, which I believe
was beneficial for all, I would like to suggest that we meet again
in the middle of Juno cycle to discuss current progress, blockers,
next steps and of course get some beer all together :)

Last time, TripleO and Ironic merged their meetings together and I
think it was great idea. This time I would like to invite also Heat
team if they want to join. Our cooperation is increasing and I think
it would be great, if we can discuss all issues together.

Red Hat offered to host this event, so I am very happy to invite you
all and I would like to ask, who would come if there was a mid-cycle
meetup in following dates and place:

* July 28 - Aug 1
* Red Hat office, Raleigh, North Carolina

If you are intending to join, please, fill yourselves into this
etherpad:
https://etherpad.openstack.__org/p/juno-midcycle-meetup


Cheers
-- Jarda

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Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Ironic] [Heat] Mid-cycle collaborative meetup

[Robert Collins]

Is there any wiggle room on those dates? As James Polley says, PyCon
AU (and the Openstack miniconf, which I'm organising with JHesketh)
overlap significantly - and I can't be in two places at once.

However July 21-25th would be totally doable :)

-Rob

On 28 May 2014 23:05, Jaromir Coufal  wrote:
> Hi to all,
>
> after previous TripleO & Ironic mid-cycle meetup, which I believe was
> beneficial for all, I would like to suggest that we meet again in the middle
> of Juno cycle to discuss current progress, blockers, next steps and of
> course get some beer all together :)
>
> Last time, TripleO and Ironic merged their meetings together and I think it
> was great idea. This time I would like to invite also Heat team if they want
> to join. Our cooperation is increasing and I think it would be great, if we
> can discuss all issues together.
>
> Red Hat offered to host this event, so I am very happy to invite you all and
> I would like to ask, who would come if there was a mid-cycle meetup in
> following dates and place:
>
> * July 28 - Aug 1
> * Red Hat office, Raleigh, North Carolina
>
> If you are intending to join, please, fill yourselves into this etherpad:
> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-midcycle-meetup
>
> Cheers
> -- Jarda
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Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Ironic] [Heat] Mid-cycle collaborative meetup

[James Polley]

Thanks for putting this together Jaromir!

August 1 may be a problem for those of us from Australia - it's the day of
the OpenStack miniconf at Pycon-AU.

I don't know if any of us intended to go to that, but if we did we'd need
to leave no later than the 4:40pm flight on July 30 in order to make it
back in time - and that would have us arriving in Brisbane at 7am on the
day of the miniconf.

If we stayed till midday Friday and caught the 4:40pm flight out, we'd
arrive in BNE at 7am on the 3rd - just in time for the last day of talks
and the two days of sprints.

As I said, I'm not sure how many other people from this part of the world
had intended to go to Pycon-AU and the openstack miniconf, so I'm not sure
how much of a problem this is.


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 9:05 PM, Jaromir Coufal  wrote:

> Hi to all,
>
> after previous TripleO & Ironic mid-cycle meetup, which I believe was
> beneficial for all, I would like to suggest that we meet again in the
> middle of Juno cycle to discuss current progress, blockers, next steps and
> of course get some beer all together :)
>
> Last time, TripleO and Ironic merged their meetings together and I think
> it was great idea. This time I would like to invite also Heat team if they
> want to join. Our cooperation is increasing and I think it would be great,
> if we can discuss all issues together.
>
> Red Hat offered to host this event, so I am very happy to invite you all
> and I would like to ask, who would come if there was a mid-cycle meetup in
> following dates and place:
>
> * July 28 - Aug 1
> * Red Hat office, Raleigh, North Carolina
>
> If you are intending to join, please, fill yourselves into this etherpad:
> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-midcycle-meetup
>
> Cheers
> -- Jarda
>
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[openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Ironic] [Heat] Mid-cycle collaborative meetup

[Jaromir Coufal]

Hi to all,

after previous TripleO & Ironic mid-cycle meetup, which I believe was 
beneficial for all, I would like to suggest that we meet again in the 
middle of Juno cycle to discuss current progress, blockers, next steps 
and of course get some beer all together :)


Last time, TripleO and Ironic merged their meetings together and I think 
it was great idea. This time I would like to invite also Heat team if 
they want to join. Our cooperation is increasing and I think it would be 
great, if we can discuss all issues together.


Red Hat offered to host this event, so I am very happy to invite you all 
and I would like to ask, who would come if there was a mid-cycle meetup 
in following dates and place:


* July 28 - Aug 1
* Red Hat office, Raleigh, North Carolina

If you are intending to join, please, fill yourselves into this etherpad:
https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-midcycle-meetup

Cheers
-- Jarda

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