Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Splitting out dib-core

2015-06-26 Thread James Slagle
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Clint Byrum  wrote:
> Excerpts from Gregory Haynes's message of 2015-06-26 08:17:36 -0700:
>> Hello TripleOers,
>>
>> At the last mid-cycle we briefly discussed whether we should have
>> separate groups for tripleo and DIB core and decided it wasn't
>> necessary. I would like to revisit that topic.
>>
>> It seems clear to me that we have some existing tripleo cores who are
>> becoming less familiar with the tripleo project as a whole but are
>> highly active in the DIB project. We also have new contributors who are
>> fairly active in the DIB project but are not active in the other tripleo
>> projects. I would really like a path where new contributors like this
>> can become core on DIB but that isn't really an option right now with
>> one core group for both tripleo and DIB.
>>
>> I'd like to propose we make a new gerrit group for dib-core and add the
>> existing tripleo-core members to it (note: this is different than adding
>> tripleo-core as a member group of dib-core, which is an alternative).
>> This would mean that new tripleo cores would not automatically be DIB
>> cores, and new DIB cores would not automatically be tripleo cores.
>
> Why wouldn't we just make dib-core a sub-team for people not familiar
> with the broader TripleO effort, and just add tripleo-core to dib-core?

I would need to double check, but I think this is what we already have.

diskimage-builder-core includes the group tripleo-core in gerrit.

In project-config, diskimage-builder-core is what has +2 on
diskimage-builder. It also has +2 on tripleo-heat-templates and
tripleo-image-elements as well though (since this was it's original
purpose), so we could remove those. We should also probably add +2 on
dib-utils for it as well.

Ok, so I basically just double checked trying to write this :).

Either way, I agree it makes sense to have the ability to give a set
of folks +2 on dib, and not all the tripleo repos in the process, so
that dib is able to grow it's team of core reviewers.

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Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Splitting out dib-core

2015-06-26 Thread Christopher Aedo
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Gregory Haynes  wrote:
> Hello TripleOers,
>
> At the last mid-cycle we briefly discussed whether we should have
> separate groups for tripleo and DIB core and decided it wasn't
> necessary. I would like to revisit that topic.
>
> It seems clear to me that we have some existing tripleo cores who are
> becoming less familiar with the tripleo project as a whole but are
> highly active in the DIB project. We also have new contributors who are
> fairly active in the DIB project but are not active in the other tripleo
> projects. I would really like a path where new contributors like this
> can become core on DIB but that isn't really an option right now with
> one core group for both tripleo and DIB.
>
> I'd like to propose we make a new gerrit group for dib-core and add the
> existing tripleo-core members to it (note: this is different than adding
> tripleo-core as a member group of dib-core, which is an alternative).
> This would mean that new tripleo cores would not automatically be DIB
> cores, and new DIB cores would not automatically be tripleo cores.
>
> Thoughts?

I personally think this is an excellent idea.  DIB is very useful
outside the context of TripleO, and is being used increasingly by many
other OpenStack projects.  Moving DIB into a new group I think would
be a benefit as allows potential contributors to consider it in a more
focused context rather than thinking about it as a triple-o component.
Ultimately I think the core groups here (OoO/DIB) would have some
overlap but would not be the same set, and it seems that change is
inevitable - why not create the new group now?

-Christopher

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Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Splitting out dib-core

2015-06-26 Thread Gregory Haynes
Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message of 2015-06-26 17:21:29 +:
> Excerpts from Gregory Haynes's message of 2015-06-26 08:17:36 -0700:
> > Hello TripleOers,
> > 
> > At the last mid-cycle we briefly discussed whether we should have
> > separate groups for tripleo and DIB core and decided it wasn't
> > necessary. I would like to revisit that topic.
> > 
> > It seems clear to me that we have some existing tripleo cores who are
> > becoming less familiar with the tripleo project as a whole but are
> > highly active in the DIB project. We also have new contributors who are
> > fairly active in the DIB project but are not active in the other tripleo
> > projects. I would really like a path where new contributors like this
> > can become core on DIB but that isn't really an option right now with
> > one core group for both tripleo and DIB.
> > 
> > I'd like to propose we make a new gerrit group for dib-core and add the
> > existing tripleo-core members to it (note: this is different than adding
> > tripleo-core as a member group of dib-core, which is an alternative).
> > This would mean that new tripleo cores would not automatically be DIB
> > cores, and new DIB cores would not automatically be tripleo cores.
> 
> Why wouldn't we just make dib-core a sub-team for people not familiar
> with the broader TripleO effort, and just add tripleo-core to dib-core?
> 

If I parse this correctly - you're asking about making dib-core a
superset of tripleo-core. I actually hadn't considered this, and I think
it's a good idea. The only reason way may not want this is if tripleo is
drifting far enough away from DIB that it doesnt make sense for new
tripleo cores to become DIB cores, but I don't think that is the case.

So, +1 on that idea.

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Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Splitting out dib-core

2015-06-26 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Gregory Haynes's message of 2015-06-26 08:17:36 -0700:
> Hello TripleOers,
> 
> At the last mid-cycle we briefly discussed whether we should have
> separate groups for tripleo and DIB core and decided it wasn't
> necessary. I would like to revisit that topic.
> 
> It seems clear to me that we have some existing tripleo cores who are
> becoming less familiar with the tripleo project as a whole but are
> highly active in the DIB project. We also have new contributors who are
> fairly active in the DIB project but are not active in the other tripleo
> projects. I would really like a path where new contributors like this
> can become core on DIB but that isn't really an option right now with
> one core group for both tripleo and DIB.
> 
> I'd like to propose we make a new gerrit group for dib-core and add the
> existing tripleo-core members to it (note: this is different than adding
> tripleo-core as a member group of dib-core, which is an alternative).
> This would mean that new tripleo cores would not automatically be DIB
> cores, and new DIB cores would not automatically be tripleo cores.

Why wouldn't we just make dib-core a sub-team for people not familiar
with the broader TripleO effort, and just add tripleo-core to dib-core?

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[openstack-dev] [TripleO] Splitting out dib-core

2015-06-26 Thread Gregory Haynes
Hello TripleOers,

At the last mid-cycle we briefly discussed whether we should have
separate groups for tripleo and DIB core and decided it wasn't
necessary. I would like to revisit that topic.

It seems clear to me that we have some existing tripleo cores who are
becoming less familiar with the tripleo project as a whole but are
highly active in the DIB project. We also have new contributors who are
fairly active in the DIB project but are not active in the other tripleo
projects. I would really like a path where new contributors like this
can become core on DIB but that isn't really an option right now with
one core group for both tripleo and DIB.

I'd like to propose we make a new gerrit group for dib-core and add the
existing tripleo-core members to it (note: this is different than adding
tripleo-core as a member group of dib-core, which is an alternative).
This would mean that new tripleo cores would not automatically be DIB
cores, and new DIB cores would not automatically be tripleo cores.

Thoughts?

-Greg

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