Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] config options, defaults, oh my!

2014-04-11 Thread Alexis Lee
Clint Byrum said on Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 09:45:17AM -0700: Now you've described it, you're right, I'm not interested in TripleO or TripleO milestones. I am interested in using os-*-config, Heat and tripleo-image-elements to produce pure OpenStack deployments from 3 to 3000 nodes, for

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] config options, defaults, oh my!

2014-04-10 Thread Alexis Lee
Clint Byrum said on Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 12:05:35PM -0700: Excerpts from Duncan Thomas's message of 2014-04-09 11:11:06 -0700: I think this is dangerous thinking - the config you want depends so hugely on your intended workload and available hardware that trying any strong view of what an

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] config options, defaults, oh my!

2014-04-10 Thread Alexis Lee
Clint Byrum said on Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 01:33:18PM -0700: This assumes that we don't want system integrators to contribute to TripleO, which is the opposite of how things are. We absolutely do, and in fact, that is part of the point of having a program around OpenStack deployment. Let's get

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] config options, defaults, oh my!

2014-04-10 Thread Alexis Lee
Miller, Mark M (EB SW Cloud - RD - Corvallis) said on Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 10:30:26PM +: Does anyone have a flowchart of the cloud build/configure process including interactions between the various components/stages of TripleO and Heat? Not to my (very limited) knowledge. If you read the

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] config options, defaults, oh my!

2014-04-10 Thread Miller, Mark M (EB SW Cloud - RD - Corvallis)
Thank you for the leads. I will look them up. Mark -Original Message- From: Lee, Alexis Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 3:58 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] config options, defaults, oh my! Miller, Mark M (EB SW

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] config options, defaults, oh my!

2014-04-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Alexis Lee's message of 2014-04-10 02:35:32 -0700: Clint Byrum said on Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 12:05:35PM -0700: Excerpts from Duncan Thomas's message of 2014-04-09 11:11:06 -0700: I think this is dangerous thinking - the config you want depends so hugely on your intended

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] config options, defaults, oh my!

2014-04-09 Thread Alexis Lee
Robert Collins said on Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 01:58:59AM +1200: I like this - something like nova: config: - section: default values: - option: 'compute_manager' value: 'ironic.nova.compute.manager.ClusterComputeManager' - section: cells values:

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] config options, defaults, oh my!

2014-04-09 Thread Duncan Thomas
On 8 April 2014 18:25, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Jay Dobies's message of 2014-04-08 06:40:07 -0700: I've always assumed TripleO is very low-level. Put another way, non-prescriptive. It's not going to push an agenda that says you should be doing things a certain way,

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] config options, defaults, oh my!

2014-04-09 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Duncan Thomas's message of 2014-04-09 11:11:06 -0700: On 8 April 2014 18:25, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Jay Dobies's message of 2014-04-08 06:40:07 -0700: I've always assumed TripleO is very low-level. Put another way, non-prescriptive. It's not going

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] config options, defaults, oh my!

2014-04-09 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Alexis Lee's message of 2014-04-09 06:44:20 -0700: Robert Collins said on Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 01:58:59AM +1200: I like this - something like nova: config: - section: default values: - option: 'compute_manager' value:

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] config options, defaults, oh my!

2014-04-09 Thread Robert Collins
On 10 April 2014 08:33, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: This is exactly what we're doing. We're just suggesting exposing variations in the Heat templates, rather than in the elements. It is worth noting that Heat has grown the ability to grab a local file and inject it into your template

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] config options, defaults, oh my!

2014-04-09 Thread Miller, Mark M (EB SW Cloud - RD - Corvallis)
Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] config options, defaults, oh my! On 10 April 2014 08:33, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: This is exactly what we're doing. We're just suggesting exposing variations in the Heat templates, rather than

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] config options, defaults, oh my!

2014-04-08 Thread Ladislav Smola
AM, Dan Prince wrote: - Original Message - From: Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net To: OpenStack Development Mailing List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 4:00:30 PM Subject: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] config options, defaults, oh my! So one

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] config options, defaults, oh my!

2014-04-08 Thread Day, Phil
-Original Message- From: Robert Collins [mailto:robe...@robertcollins.net] Sent: 07 April 2014 21:01 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List Subject: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] config options, defaults, oh my! So one interesting thing from the influx of new reviews is lots of patches

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] config options, defaults, oh my!

2014-04-08 Thread Sean Dague
On 04/08/2014 06:03 AM, Day, Phil wrote: -Original Message- From: Robert Collins [mailto:robe...@robertcollins.net] Sent: 07 April 2014 21:01 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List Subject: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] config options, defaults, oh my! So one interesting thing from

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] config options, defaults, oh my!

2014-04-08 Thread James Slagle
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 6:03 AM, Day, Phil philip@hp.com wrote: -Original Message- From: Robert Collins [mailto:robe...@robertcollins.net] Sent: 07 April 2014 21:01 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List Subject: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] config options, defaults, oh my! So one

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] config options, defaults, oh my!

2014-04-08 Thread Chris Jones
Hi On 8 Apr 2014, at 11:20, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: I think Phil is dead on. I'll also share the devstack experience here. Until we provided the way for arbitrary pass through we were basically getting a few patches every week that were let me configure this variable in the

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] config options, defaults, oh my!

2014-04-08 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Day, Phil's message of 2014-04-08 03:03:41 -0700: -Original Message- From: Robert Collins [mailto:robe...@robertcollins.net] Sent: 07 April 2014 21:01 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List Subject: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] config options, defaults, oh my! So

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] config options, defaults, oh my!

2014-04-08 Thread Robert Collins
On 8 April 2014 11:51, Dan Prince dpri...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net To: OpenStack Development Mailing List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 4:00:30 PM Subject: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] config

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] config options, defaults, oh my!

2014-04-08 Thread Robert Collins
On 9 April 2014 00:48, Chris Jones c...@tenshu.net wrote: Hi On 8 Apr 2014, at 11:20, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: I think Phil is dead on. I'll also share the devstack experience here. Until we provided the way for arbitrary pass through we were basically getting a few patches every

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] config options, defaults, oh my!

2014-04-08 Thread Jay Dobies
I'm very wary of trying to make the decision in TripleO of what should and shouldn't be configurable in some other project.For sure the number of config options in Nova is a problem, and one that's been discussed many times at summits. However I think you could also make the

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] config options, defaults, oh my!

2014-04-08 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jay Dobies's message of 2014-04-08 06:40:07 -0700: I'm very wary of trying to make the decision in TripleO of what should and shouldn't be configurable in some other project.For sure the number of config options in Nova is a problem, and one that's been discussed many

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] config options, defaults, oh my!

2014-04-07 Thread Dan Prince
- Original Message - From: Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net To: OpenStack Development Mailing List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 4:00:30 PM Subject: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] config options, defaults, oh my! So one interesting thing from