Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Setting epoch in setup.cfg??

2015-07-24 Thread Ian Cordasco
On 7/14/15, 10:41, "Monty Taylor" wrote: >On 07/14/2015 11:08 AM, Ian Cordasco wrote: >> >> >> On 7/13/15, 16:19, "Joshua Harlow" wrote: >> >>> Ian Cordasco wrote: On 7/13/15, 15:09, "Dave Walker" wrote: > On 13 Jul 2015 8:52 pm, "Ian Cordasco" > wrote: >> On 7/1

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Setting epoch in setup.cfg??

2015-07-15 Thread Thierry Carrez
Monty Taylor wrote: > [...] > An epoch, being a tool designed for package maintainers to solve package > maintainer problems, is not a tool designed to solve ease of > communication issues for regular users. Most regular users immediately > grasp that 2.0.0 > 1.0.0. Most regular users do NOT intuit

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Setting epoch in setup.cfg??

2015-07-14 Thread Monty Taylor
On 07/14/2015 11:08 AM, Ian Cordasco wrote: > > > On 7/13/15, 16:19, "Joshua Harlow" wrote: > >> Ian Cordasco wrote: >>> >>> On 7/13/15, 15:09, "Dave Walker" wrote: >>> On 13 Jul 2015 8:52 pm, "Ian Cordasco" wrote: > On 7/13/15, 03:38, "Thierry Carrez" wrote: >> By "co

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Setting epoch in setup.cfg??

2015-07-14 Thread Ian Cordasco
On 7/13/15, 16:19, "Joshua Harlow" wrote: >Ian Cordasco wrote: >> >> On 7/13/15, 15:09, "Dave Walker" wrote: >> >>> On 13 Jul 2015 8:52 pm, "Ian Cordasco" >>>wrote: On 7/13/15, 03:38, "Thierry Carrez" wrote: >>> > By "counter-productive", I meant: likely to generate more confusion >

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Setting epoch in setup.cfg??

2015-07-13 Thread Joshua Harlow
Ian Cordasco wrote: On 7/13/15, 15:09, "Dave Walker" wrote: On 13 Jul 2015 8:52 pm, "Ian Cordasco" wrote: On 7/13/15, 03:38, "Thierry Carrez" wrote: By "counter-productive", I meant: likely to generate more confusion than clarity. If you provide an epoch in the version and it doesn't

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Setting epoch in setup.cfg??

2015-07-13 Thread Dave Walker
On 13 July 2015 at 21:58, Ian Cordasco wrote: > On 7/13/15, 15:09, "Dave Walker" wrote: > >> >>Therefore, these distro's would need to increment the distro epoch if the >>upstream version (without the upstream epoch) is lower than the version >>currently in their archives. >>I am not sure how rp

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Setting epoch in setup.cfg??

2015-07-13 Thread Ian Cordasco
On 7/13/15, 15:09, "Dave Walker" wrote: > >On 13 Jul 2015 8:52 pm, "Ian Cordasco" wrote: >> On 7/13/15, 03:38, "Thierry Carrez" wrote: > >> >By "counter-productive", I meant: likely to generate more confusion >>than >> >clarity. If you provide an epoch in the version and it doesn't match >> >

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Setting epoch in setup.cfg??

2015-07-13 Thread Dave Walker
On 13 Jul 2015 8:52 pm, "Ian Cordasco" wrote: > On 7/13/15, 03:38, "Thierry Carrez" wrote: > >By "counter-productive", I meant: likely to generate more confusion than > >clarity. If you provide an epoch in the version and it doesn't match > >downstream packagers ones, it's hard to rely on it. >

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Setting epoch in setup.cfg??

2015-07-13 Thread Ian Cordasco
On 7/13/15, 03:38, "Thierry Carrez" wrote: >Ian Cordasco wrote: >> On 7/10/15, 03:44, "Thierry Carrez" wrote: >>> Also you'll find that the various distros use different epoch values >>>for >>> the same software, because epoch are also used to cover local blunders >>> in packaging and historic

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Setting epoch in setup.cfg??

2015-07-13 Thread Thierry Carrez
Ian Cordasco wrote: > On 7/10/15, 03:44, "Thierry Carrez" wrote: >> Also you'll find that the various distros use different epoch values for >> the same software, because epoch are also used to cover local blunders >> in packaging and historical artifacts. That is why epochs should be >> local to

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Setting epoch in setup.cfg??

2015-07-11 Thread Joshua Harlow
Ian Cordasco wrote: On 7/10/15, 03:44, "Thierry Carrez" wrote: Joshua Harlow wrote: Hi all, I was thinking about those who are packaging with venvs (and using the version of a project in the venv file name); like what anvil[1] is now capable of (and does this in the gate now[2]) or packagin

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Setting epoch in setup.cfg??

2015-07-11 Thread Ian Cordasco
On 7/10/15, 03:44, "Thierry Carrez" wrote: >Joshua Harlow wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I was thinking about those who are packaging with venvs (and using the >> version of a project in the venv file name); like what anvil[1] is now >> capable of (and does this in the gate now[2]) or packaging via r

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Setting epoch in setup.cfg??

2015-07-10 Thread Thierry Carrez
Joshua Harlow wrote: > Hi all, > > I was thinking about those who are packaging with venvs (and using the > version of a project in the venv file name); like what anvil[1] is now > capable of (and does this in the gate now[2]) or packaging via rpms > (which anvil also does) and they are going to b

[openstack-dev] [all] Setting epoch in setup.cfg??

2015-07-09 Thread Joshua Harlow
Hi all, I was thinking about those who are packaging with venvs (and using the version of a project in the venv file name); like what anvil[1] is now capable of (and does this in the gate now[2]) or packaging via rpms (which anvil also does) and they are going to be affected by the version sh