Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer][aodh][vitrage] Raising custom alarms in AODH

2015-12-20 Thread AFEK, Ifat (Ifat)
> -Original Message- > From: Ryota Mibu [mailto:r-m...@cq.jp.nec.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 11:17 AM > > Hi Ifat, > > In short, 'event' is generated in OpenStack, 'alarm' is defined by a > user. 'event' is a container of data passed from other OpenStack > services through

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer][aodh][vitrage] Raising custom alarms in AODH

2015-12-10 Thread AFEK, Ifat (Ifat)
Hi Ryota, > -Original Message- > From: Ryota Mibu [mailto:r-m...@cq.jp.nec.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 11:17 AM > > In short, 'event' is generated in OpenStack, 'alarm' is defined by a > user. 'event' is a container of data passed from other OpenStack > services through

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer][aodh][vitrage] Raising custom alarms in AODH

2015-12-08 Thread Ryota Mibu
Hi Ifat, > > Can we clarify use case again in terms of service role definition? > > Our use cases focus on giving value to the cloud admin, who will be able to: > > - view the topology of his environment, the relations between the physical, > virtual and applicative layer and the > statuses

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer][aodh][vitrage] Raising custom alarms in AODH

2015-12-07 Thread AFEK, Ifat (Ifat)
> -Original Message- > From: Julien Danjou [mailto:jul...@danjou.info] > Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 12:00 PM > > I find it odd to have UI use cases first, as their terribly large for a > MVP. Unless Vitrage already exists and you have all the code figured > out. :) We have most of it

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer][aodh][vitrage] Raising custom alarms in AODH

2015-12-07 Thread Julien Danjou
On Mon, Dec 07 2015, AFEK, Ifat (Ifat) wrote: > Our goal is to get as much information as we can from various data > sources. If you connect Nagios to telemetry project, and we can get > nagios alarms directly from Aodh, it would be great. Is it something > that you planned on doing for

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer][aodh][vitrage] Raising custom alarms in AODH

2015-12-06 Thread AFEK, Ifat (Ifat)
Hi Julien, > -Original Message- > From: Julien Danjou [mailto:jul...@danjou.info] > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 4:27 PM > > I think that I would be more interested by connecting Nagios to > Ceilometer/Gnocchi/Aodh with maybe the long-term goal of replacing it > by that stack, which

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer][aodh][vitrage] Raising custom alarms in AODH

2015-12-06 Thread AFEK, Ifat (Ifat)
Hi Ryota, > -Original Message- > From: Ryota Mibu [mailto:r-m...@cq.jp.nec.com] > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 9:42 AM > > > The next step can happen if and when Aodh supports alarm templates. > > If Vitrage can handle about 30 alarm types, and there are 100 > > instances, we don't

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer][aodh][vitrage] Raising custom alarms in AODH

2015-12-03 Thread Ryota Mibu
Hi Ifat, > > > Let me see if I got this right: are you suggesting that we create > > > on-the-fly alarm definitions with no alarm_actions, for every > > > deduced > > alarm that we want to raise? And this will spare us the extra alarm > > evaluation in AODH? > > > > Yes. But, please note that

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer][aodh][vitrage] Raising custom alarms in AODH

2015-12-03 Thread Ryota Mibu
Hi Ifat, > > One approach we can take, is that you configure aodh to pass each row > > event (e.g. each VM downed) wrapped in alarm notification to vitrage, > > then do some operation (e.g. deducing, aggregating) and store > > resource- level alarm without any alarm_actions, so that users can

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer][aodh][vitrage] Raising custom alarms in AODH

2015-12-03 Thread Julien Danjou
On Thu, Dec 03 2015, AFEK, Ifat (Ifat) wrote: > Another question is our need to get alarms from other sources, like > Nagios, zabbix, ganglia, etc. We thought that Vitrage would query these > Alarms from each source directly, and then create alarms in AODH in the > same way as our deduced

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer][aodh][vitrage] Raising custom alarms in AODH

2015-12-03 Thread Julien Danjou
On Thu, Dec 03 2015, AFEK, Ifat (Ifat) wrote: > One of Vitrage's goals is to gather information from different layers - > Physical, virtual and applicative - create a topology tree with the > Relations between the different entities in all layers, and perform > alarm analysis based on this

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer][aodh][vitrage] Raising custom alarms in AODH

2015-12-03 Thread AFEK, Ifat (Ifat)
Hi Julien, > From: Julien Danjou [mailto:jul...@danjou.info] > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 10:53 AM > > On Thu, Dec 03 2015, AFEK, Ifat (Ifat) wrote: > > > Another question is our need to get alarms from other sources, like > > Nagios, zabbix, ganglia, etc. We thought that Vitrage would

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer][aodh][vitrage] Raising custom alarms in AODH

2015-12-03 Thread AFEK, Ifat (Ifat)
Hi Ryota, > From: Ryota Mibu [mailto:r-m...@cq.jp.nec.com] > > > > Let me see if I got this right: are you suggesting that we create > > on-the-fly alarm definitions with no alarm_actions, for every deduced > alarm that we want to raise? And this will spare us the extra alarm > evaluation in

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer][aodh][vitrage] Raising custom alarms in AODH

2015-12-02 Thread Julien Danjou
On Wed, Dec 02 2015, AFEK, Ifat (Ifat) wrote: > As we understand it, if we take the first approach you describe, then we can > have an alarm refer to all the VMs in the system, but then if the alarm is > triggered by one VM or by five VMs, the result will be the same - only one > alarm will be

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer][aodh][vitrage] Raising custom alarms in AODH

2015-12-02 Thread AFEK, Ifat (Ifat)
Hi Julien, Please see our questions below. Ifat and Elisha. > -Original Message- > From: Julien Danjou [mailto:jul...@danjou.info] > > On Wed, Dec 02 2015, ROSENSWEIG, ELISHA (ELISHA) wrote: > > Regarding the second point: Say we have 30 different types of alarms > > we might want to

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer][aodh][vitrage] Raising custom alarms in AODH

2015-12-02 Thread Julien Danjou
On Wed, Dec 02 2015, ROSENSWEIG, ELISHA (ELISHA) wrote: > Regarding the second point: Say we have 30 different types of alarms we might > want to raise on an OpenStack instance (VM). What I understand from your > explanation is that when we create a new instance, we need to create 30 new > alarms

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer][aodh][vitrage] Raising custom alarms in AODH

2015-12-02 Thread AFEK, Ifat (Ifat)
Hi Ryota, Thanks for your response, please see my comments below. Ifat. > -Original Message- > From: Ryota Mibu [mailto:r-m...@cq.jp.nec.com] > > Hi, > > > Sorry for my late response... > > It seems like a fundamental question whether we should have rich > function or intelligence

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer][aodh][vitrage] Raising custom alarms in AODH

2015-12-02 Thread Ryota Mibu
Hi, Sorry for my late response... It seems like a fundamental question whether we should have rich function or intelligence in on-the-fly event alarm evaluation. I think we can add simple operations (like aggregating alarm) in aodh evaluator, and other operations (like deducing with

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer][aodh][vitrage] Raising custom alarms in AODH

2015-12-02 Thread AFEK, Ifat (Ifat)
> -Original Message- > From: Julien Danjou [mailto:jul...@danjou.info] > > On Wed, Dec 02 2015, AFEK, Ifat (Ifat) wrote: > > > Can this be supported without defining an alarm for every VM > separately? > > No, it's not possible. You'd have to create the alarm for each instance > for

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer][aodh][vitrage] Raising custom alarms in AODH

2015-12-02 Thread Julien Danjou
On Tue, Dec 01 2015, ROSENSWEIG, ELISHA (ELISHA) wrote: > 1. Does AODH currently support raising alarms on resources not modeled > in OpenStack? For example, raising an alarm on a Switch? Or does each > alarm have to relate to a resource ID (or IDs)( Yes, Aodh does not really care, especially

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer][aodh][vitrage] Raising custom alarms in AODH

2015-12-02 Thread ROSENSWEIG, ELISHA (ELISHA)
Wednesday, December 02, 2015 12:26 PM > To: ROSENSWEIG, ELISHA (ELISHA) > Cc: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions); AFEK, > Ifat (Ifat) > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer][aodh][vitrage] Raising custom > alarms in AODH > > On Tue, Dec 01 2015, ROS

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer][aodh][vitrage] Raising custom alarms in AODH

2015-12-01 Thread AFEK, Ifat (Ifat)
r AODH integration right now. > > Thanks, > Ifat. > > > -Original Message- > From: AFEK, Ifat (Ifat) [mailto:ifat.a...@alcatel-lucent.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 7:37 PM > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Subject: Re: [openstack-de

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer][aodh][vitrage] Raising custom alarms in AODH

2015-12-01 Thread ROSENSWEIG, ELISHA (ELISHA)
m: Julien Danjou [mailto:jul...@danjou.info] > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 3:25 PM > To: AFEK, Ifat (Ifat) > Cc: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer][aodh][vitrage] Raising custom > alarms in AODH > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer][aodh][vitrage] Raising custom alarms in AODH

2015-12-01 Thread Julien Danjou
On Tue, Dec 01 2015, AFEK, Ifat (Ifat) wrote: > In Vitrage, we would like to evaluate and correlate different kinds of alarms: > AODH threshold alarms, event alarms, Nagios alarms, Ganglia alarms, Zabbix > alarms, etc. This includes alarms on physical resources that are not part of > OpenStack,

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer][aodh][vitrage] Raising custom alarms in AODH

2015-11-30 Thread AFEK, Ifat (Ifat)
) [mailto:ifat.a...@alcatel-lucent.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 7:37 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer][aodh][vitrage] Raising custom alarms in AODH Hi Gord, Hi Ryota, (I sent the same mail again in a more readable format

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer][aodh][vitrage] Raising custom alarms in AODH

2015-11-24 Thread AFEK, Ifat (Ifat)
, Ifat. [2] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/ceilometer-alarm-management-page > -Original Message- > From: gord chung [mailto:g...@live.ca] > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 9:45 PM > To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer][aod

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer][aodh][vitrage] Raising custom alarms in AODH

2015-11-24 Thread AFEK, Ifat (Ifat)
ists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer][aodh][vitrage] Raising > custom alarms in AODH > > > > On 23/11/2015 11:14 AM, AFEK, Ifat (Ifat) wrote: > > I guess I would like to do both: create a new alarm definition, then > > trigger it (call

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer][aodh][vitrage] Raising custom alarms in AODH

2015-11-24 Thread Ryota Mibu
fat.a...@alcatel-lucent.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 1:15 AM > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer][aodh][vitrage] Raising custom > alarms in AODH > > Hi Gord, > > Please see my answers below. &g

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer][aodh][vitrage] Raising custom alarms in AODH

2015-11-23 Thread gord chung
On 23/11/2015 11:14 AM, AFEK, Ifat (Ifat) wrote: I guess I would like to do both: create a new alarm definition, then trigger it (call alarm_actions), and possibly later on set its state back to OK (call ok_action). I understood that currently all alarm triggering is internal in AODH,

[openstack-dev] [ceilometer][aodh][vitrage] Raising custom alarms in AODH

2015-11-23 Thread AFEK, Ifat (Ifat)
Hi, We have a couple of questions regarding AODH alarms. In Vitrage[1] project we have two use cases that involve Ceilometer: 1. Import Ceilometer alarms, as well as alarms and resources from other sources (Nagios, Zabbix, Nova, Heat, etc.), and produce RCA insights about the connection

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer][aodh][vitrage] Raising custom alarms in AODH

2015-11-23 Thread gord chung
hi Ifat, i added some questions below. On 23/11/2015 7:16 AM, AFEK, Ifat (Ifat) wrote: Hi, We have a couple of questions regarding AODH alarms. In Vitrage[1] project we have two use cases that involve Ceilometer: 1. Import Ceilometer alarms, as well as alarms and resources from other

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer][aodh][vitrage] Raising custom alarms in AODH

2015-11-23 Thread AFEK, Ifat (Ifat)
Hi Gord, Please see my answers below. Ifat. > -Original Message- > From: gord chung [mailto:g...@live.ca] > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 4:57 PM > To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer][aodh][vitrage] Raising custom > alar