Re: [openstack-dev] [election][tc]Question for candidates about global reachout

2018-09-18 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 09/14/2018 09:52 PM, Zhipeng Huang wrote: > This is a joint question from mnaser and me :) > > For the candidates who are running for tc seats, please reply to this > email to indicate if you are open to use certain social media app in > certain region (like Wechat in China Even if I do use

Re: [openstack-dev] [election][tc]Question for candidates about global reachout

2018-09-18 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Zhipeng Huang's message of 2018-09-14 13:52:50 -0600: > This is a joint question from mnaser and me :) > > For the candidates who are running for tc seats, please reply to this email > to indicate if you are open to use certain social media app in certain > region (like Wechat in

Re: [openstack-dev] [election][tc]Question for candidates about global reachout

2018-09-18 Thread Samuel Cassiba
On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 5:34 AM Jeremy Stanley wrote: > > On 2018-09-18 10:23:33 +0800 (+0800), Zhipeng Huang wrote: > [...] > > Jeremy, what I'm saying here, and also addressed in comments with > > the related resolution patch, is that personality reasons are the > > ones that we have to respect

Re: [openstack-dev] [election][tc]Question for candidates about global reachout

2018-09-18 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2018-09-18 10:23:33 +0800 (+0800), Zhipeng Huang wrote: [...] > Jeremy, what I'm saying here, and also addressed in comments with > the related resolution patch, is that personality reasons are the > ones that we have to respect and no form of governance change > could help solve the problem.

Re: [openstack-dev] [election][tc]Question for candidates about global reachout

2018-09-17 Thread Zhipeng Huang
On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 8:06 AM Jeremy Stanley wrote: > This seems to completely miss the reasons I personally reject such > platforms. I don't use proprietary tools or services for interacting > with our community, I avoid relying on products from companies which > attempt to track or share my

Re: [openstack-dev] [election][tc]Question for candidates about global reachout

2018-09-17 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2018-09-18 07:27:26 +0800 (+0800), Zhipeng Huang wrote: [...] > On another side note, there has not been a (maybe I missed) good > "no" vote message I was looking for. > > A good quality "no" message could something like this in my > opinion (and this is just one of many possibilities): > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [election][tc]Question for candidates about global reachout

2018-09-17 Thread Zhipeng Huang
Thanks Anne :) On another side note, there has not been a (maybe I missed) good "no" vote message I was looking for. A good quality "no" message could something like this in my opinion (and this is just one of many possibilities): "Thanks for invitation but no I would not like to use social

Re: [openstack-dev] [election][tc]Question for candidates about global reachout

2018-09-17 Thread Davanum Srinivas
On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 7:06 PM Anne Bertucio wrote: > I though I remember someone (annabelleB?) saying there were known issues > (technical or otherwise) regarding the official channels spun up by the > Foundation. > > > Two separate issues that perhaps got mashed together :) > > Unofficial

Re: [openstack-dev] [election][tc]Question for candidates about global reachout

2018-09-17 Thread Anne Bertucio
> I though I remember someone (annabelleB?) saying there were known issues > (technical or otherwise) regarding the official channels spun up by the > Foundation. Two separate issues that perhaps got mashed together :) Unofficial WeChat channels are limited to ~500 participants and are

Re: [openstack-dev] [election][tc]Question for candidates about global reachout

2018-09-17 Thread Zhipeng Huang
Would like to see some updates on the foundation's official wechat group up :) On the other note, I would like to point out that this email is merely asking who would be interested. The question about "dividing teams" and such is addressed in https://review.openstack.org/602697 . On Tue, Sep

Re: [openstack-dev] [election][tc]Question for candidates about global reachout

2018-09-17 Thread Lance Bragstad
On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 1:42 PM Mohammed Naser wrote: > Hi, > > On that note, is there any way to get an 'invite' onto those channels? > > Any information about the foundation side of things about the > 'official' channels? > I actually have a question about this as well. During the TC

Re: [openstack-dev] [election][tc]Question for candidates about global reachout

2018-09-17 Thread Mohammed Naser
Hi, On that note, is there any way to get an 'invite' onto those channels? Any information about the foundation side of things about the 'official' channels? Thanks, Mohammed On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 3:28 PM Samuel Cassiba wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 6:58 AM Sylvain Bauza wrote: > > > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [election][tc]Question for candidates about global reachout

2018-09-17 Thread Samuel Cassiba
On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 6:58 AM Sylvain Bauza wrote: > > > > Le lun. 17 sept. 2018 à 15:32, Jeremy Stanley a écrit : >> >> On 2018-09-16 14:14:41 +0200 (+0200), Jean-philippe Evrard wrote: >> [...] >> > - What is the problem joining Wechat will solve (keeping in mind the >> > language barrier)?

Re: [openstack-dev] [election][tc]Question for candidates about global reachout

2018-09-17 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Le lun. 17 sept. 2018 à 15:32, Jeremy Stanley a écrit : > On 2018-09-16 14:14:41 +0200 (+0200), Jean-philippe Evrard wrote: > [...] > > - What is the problem joining Wechat will solve (keeping in mind the > > language barrier)? > > As I understand it, the suggestion is that mere presence of

Re: [openstack-dev] [election][tc]Question for candidates about global reachout

2018-09-17 Thread Sean McGinnis
> > > I also have technical questions about 'wechat' (like how do you > > use it without a smartphone?) and the relevance of tools we > > currently use, but this will open Pandora's box, and I'd rather > > not spend my energy on closing that box right now :D > > Not that I was planning on

Re: [openstack-dev] [election][tc]Question for candidates about global reachout

2018-09-17 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2018-09-16 14:14:41 +0200 (+0200), Jean-philippe Evrard wrote: [...] > - What is the problem joining Wechat will solve (keeping in mind the > language barrier)? As I understand it, the suggestion is that mere presence of project leadership in venues where this emerging subset of our community

Re: [openstack-dev] [election][tc]Question for candidates about global reachout

2018-09-16 Thread Alex Xu
Fred Li 于2018年9月17日周一 上午8:25写道: > There are many wechat groups about OpenStack, some of them are regional > (like southern east China, Beijing, Xi'an group), some of them are event > oriented, and some are for others. Yes, you need to be invited, which is > not convenient. So far as I know there

Re: [openstack-dev] [election][tc]Question for candidates about global reachout

2018-09-16 Thread Fred Li
There are many wechat groups about OpenStack, some of them are regional (like southern east China, Beijing, Xi'an group), some of them are event oriented, and some are for others. Yes, you need to be invited, which is not convenient. So far as I know there is not nova group, or maybe Alex knows.

Re: [openstack-dev] [election][tc]Question for candidates about global reachout

2018-09-16 Thread Mohammed Naser
Sign me up too :) Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 16, 2018, at 6:06 PM, Zhipeng Huang wrote: > > Great to see the momentum going ! :) > > Another problem is that many people doesn't follow upstream so they are > oblivious about the new features and cool things had been done in every > cycle,

Re: [openstack-dev] [election][tc]Question for candidates about global reachout

2018-09-16 Thread Zhipeng Huang
Great to see the momentum going ! :) Another problem is that many people doesn't follow upstream so they are oblivious about the new features and cool things had been done in every cycle, and then all these types of half ass openstack trashing blog post got shared in wechat moments dissing how

Re: [openstack-dev] [election][tc]Question for candidates about global reachout

2018-09-16 Thread Alex Xu
I'm happy to be the translator or forwarder for the nova issue if you guys need(although, the nova team isn't happy with me now, also i see it is not to my personal. I guess they won't be make me hard for other work I do.). I can see there are a lot of Chinese operators/users complain some

Re: [openstack-dev] [election][tc]Question for candidates about global reachout

2018-09-16 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 9/15/2018 9:50 PM, Fred Li wrote: As a non-native English speaker, it is nice-to-have that some TC or BoD can stay in the local social media, like wechat group in China. But it is also very difficult for non-native Chinese speakers to stay find useful information in ton of Chinese chats.

Re: [openstack-dev] [election][tc]Question for candidates about global reachout

2018-09-16 Thread Jean-philippe Evrard
[...] I respect that tool choices can make a difference in enabling or improving our outreach to specific cultures. I agree there. I'll commit to personally rejecting presence on proprietary social media services so as to demonstrate that public work can be done within our community while

Re: [openstack-dev] [election][tc]Question for candidates about global reachout

2018-09-15 Thread Fred Li
As a non-native English speaker, it is nice-to-have that some TC or BoD can stay in the local social media, like wechat group in China. But it is also very difficult for non-native Chinese speakers to stay find useful information in ton of Chinese chats. My thoughts (even I am not a TC candidate)

Re: [openstack-dev] [election][tc]Question for candidates about global reachout

2018-09-15 Thread Zhipeng Huang
Ya I think the whole point here (the question per se )is just to gauge if TC Candidates are willing to engage with regional developer in a way that is best fitting for that region. It surly will take other measures to make this entire effort work . On that I totally agree with you that there

Re: [openstack-dev] [election][tc]Question for candidates about global reachout

2018-09-15 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 9/14/2018 1:52 PM, Zhipeng Huang wrote: This is a joint question from mnaser and me :) For the candidates who are running for tc seats, please reply to this email to indicate if you are open to use certain social media app in certain region (like Wechat in China, Line in Japan, etc.), in

Re: [openstack-dev] [election][tc]Question for candidates about global reachout

2018-09-15 Thread Samuel Cassiba
On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 5:25 PM Rico Lin wrote: >> >> >> For the candidates who are running for tc seats, please reply to this email >> to indicate if you are open to use certain social media app in certain >> region (like Wechat in China, Line in Japan, etc.), in order to reach out to >> the

Re: [openstack-dev] [election][tc]Question for candidates about global reachout

2018-09-14 Thread Rico Lin
> > > For the candidates who are running for tc seats, please reply to this > email to indicate if you are open to use certain social media app in > certain region (like Wechat in China, Line in Japan, etc.), in order to > reach out to the OpenStack developers in that region and help them to >

Re: [openstack-dev] [election][tc]Question for candidates about global reachout

2018-09-14 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2018-09-14 13:52:50 -0600 (-0600), Zhipeng Huang wrote: > This is a joint question from mnaser and me :) > > For the candidates who are running for tc seats, please reply to > this email to indicate if you are open to use certain social media > app in certain region (like Wechat in China, Line

[openstack-dev] [election][tc]Question for candidates about global reachout

2018-09-14 Thread Zhipeng Huang
This is a joint question from mnaser and me :) For the candidates who are running for tc seats, please reply to this email to indicate if you are open to use certain social media app in certain region (like Wechat in China, Line in Japan, etc.), in order to reach out to the OpenStack developers