Re: [openstack-dev] [glare][kolla] timing of release of glare and request for technical interview on IRC wherever the glare team wants to have it

2016-08-08 Thread Jay Pipes 

On 08/08/2016 07:48 AM, Steven Dake (stdake) wrote:

Cool thanks for the response.  Appreciate it.  I think the big take away
is all the ODMs are free from churn in Newton and have a full cycle to
adapt to the changes which is great news!


Yes, that is absolutely the case.

Best,
-jay

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Re: [openstack-dev] [glare][kolla] timing of release of glare and request for technical interview on IRC wherever the glare team wants to have it

2016-08-08 Thread Steven Dake (stdake) 
Cool thanks for the response.  Appreciate it.  I think the big take away is all 
the ODMs are free from churn in Newton and have a full cycle to adapt to the 
changes which is great news!

Thanks!
-steve


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Date: Monday, August 8, 2016 at 3:09 AM
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Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [glare][kolla] timing of release of glare and 
request for technical interview on IRC wherever the glare team wants to have it

Hello Steven!
Our plans for Glare in Newton are: 1. Implement beta version of App-Catalog, 
based on Glare v1; 2. Develop an experimental support (POC) for Murano, Heat 
and probably Tacker. It means that all big updates will be in Ocata, and 
despite the fact that the code will be ready in this cycle, I do not think we 
need an immediate adoption in Kolla.

And for sure, I'll be glad to answer all your questions, 1600 UTC today works 
for me. So, let's meet at this time in your channel.

Best,
Mike

On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 2:21 PM, Steven Dake (stdake) 
> wrote:
Hey folks,

I guess the split of glare and glance have been in the works for awhile.  It is 
challenging for operational deployment managers (ODMs) such as Kolla to keep up 
with the internal goings-on of every big tent project (or projects that shave 
off from big-tent projects).  Just to be clear up front, the Kolla community 
doesn't care that glare split the work out.  The Kolla development team adapts 
very quickly to upstream changes.  What we do care about is that we present an 
accurate deployment for Newton that represents the best that OpenStack has to 
offer and offer a seamless operational experience - within Kolla's capacity 
constraints.

 I need information on when the code base will be ready to consume (from a 
tarball on tarballs.oo).  Is this planned for milestone 3 - or post Newton?  
I'd recommend post-Newton for the split to be consumable - it would ease the 
difficulty of adoption if the various ODMs (and Operators) had more then 3 
weeks to work with on what is clearly a project required by every deployment 
based upon the threads I read.

I have some other technical questions related to how the glance registry 
disappears (I believe this point was mentioned in another thread by Jay) as 
well as the upgrade mechanism (if any is needed) that would best be served by a 
high bandwidth conversation on IRC (and those conversations are recorded on 
eavesdrop for others to benefit).

Would one of the technical cats from glare team drop by #opentack-kolla so we 
can get a quick (30 minutes) technical interview on the work to understand how 
this change impacts OpenStack in the short term (prior to Newton) and the long  
term layout of the two projects so we can make a determination a to how to 
proceed technically?  I don't necessarily need to be there - any of our core 
reviewer team can handle the Q - but would like to be there if possible.

If that doesn't work for the glare team, could we get 30 minutes of agenda time 
in what I'm sure is a busy glare team meeting to have the same technical 
discussion?

If that doesn't work for the glare team, we can host the topic in the kolla 
team meeting (UTC1600 on Wednesdays) if a glare core reviewer or the glare PTL 
can stop by.

Please let me know how you wish to proceed.

TIA
-steve


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Re: [openstack-dev] [glare][kolla] timing of release of glare and request for technical interview on IRC wherever the glare team wants to have it

2016-08-08 Thread Mikhail Fedosin 
Hello Steven!
Our plans for Glare in Newton are: 1. Implement beta version of
App-Catalog, based on Glare v1; 2. Develop an experimental support (POC)
for Murano, Heat and probably Tacker. It means that all big updates will be
in Ocata, and despite the fact that the code will be ready in this cycle, I
do not think we need an immediate adoption in Kolla.

And for sure, I'll be glad to answer all your questions, 1600 UTC today
works for me. So, let's meet at this time in your channel.

Best,
Mike

On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 2:21 PM, Steven Dake (stdake) 
wrote:

> Hey folks,
>
> I guess the split of glare and glance have been in the works for awhile.
> It is challenging for operational deployment managers (ODMs) such as Kolla
> to keep up with the internal goings-on of every big tent project (or
> projects that shave off from big-tent projects).  Just to be clear up
> front, the Kolla community doesn't care that glare split the work out.  The
> Kolla development team adapts very quickly to upstream changes.  What we do
> care about is that we present an accurate deployment for Newton that
> represents the best that OpenStack has to offer and offer a seamless
> operational experience – within Kolla's capacity constraints.
>
>  I need information on when the code base will be ready to consume (from a
> tarball on tarballs.oo).  Is this planned for milestone 3 – or post
> Newton?  I'd recommend post-Newton for the split to be consumable – it
> would ease the difficulty of adoption if the various ODMs (and Operators)
> had more then 3 weeks to work with on what is clearly a project required by
> every deployment based upon the threads I read.
>
> I have some other technical questions related to how the glance registry
> disappears (I believe this point was mentioned in another thread by Jay) as
> well as the upgrade mechanism (if any is needed) that would best be served
> by a high bandwidth conversation on IRC (and those conversations are
> recorded on eavesdrop for others to benefit).
>
> Would one of the technical cats from glare team drop by #opentack-kolla so
> we can get a quick (30 minutes) technical interview on the work to
> understand how this change impacts OpenStack in the short term (prior to
> Newton) and the long  term layout of the two projects so we can make a
> determination a to how to proceed technically?  I don't necessarily need to
> be there – any of our core reviewer team can handle the Q – but would
> like to be there if possible.
>
> If that doesn't work for the glare team, could we get 30 minutes of agenda
> time in what I'm sure is a busy glare team meeting to have the same
> technical discussion?
>
> If that doesn't work for the glare team, we can host the topic in the
> kolla team meeting (UTC1600 on Wednesdays) if a glare core reviewer or the
> glare PTL can stop by.
>
> Please let me know how you wish to proceed.
>
> TIA
> -steve
>
>
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[openstack-dev] [glare][kolla] timing of release of glare and request for technical interview on IRC wherever the glare team wants to have it

2016-08-06 Thread Steven Dake (stdake) 
Hey folks,

I guess the split of glare and glance have been in the works for awhile.  It is 
challenging for operational deployment managers (ODMs) such as Kolla to keep up 
with the internal goings-on of every big tent project (or projects that shave 
off from big-tent projects).  Just to be clear up front, the Kolla community 
doesn't care that glare split the work out.  The Kolla development team adapts 
very quickly to upstream changes.  What we do care about is that we present an 
accurate deployment for Newton that represents the best that OpenStack has to 
offer and offer a seamless operational experience - within Kolla's capacity 
constraints.

 I need information on when the code base will be ready to consume (from a 
tarball on tarballs.oo).  Is this planned for milestone 3 - or post Newton?  
I'd recommend post-Newton for the split to be consumable - it would ease the 
difficulty of adoption if the various ODMs (and Operators) had more then 3 
weeks to work with on what is clearly a project required by every deployment 
based upon the threads I read.

I have some other technical questions related to how the glance registry 
disappears (I believe this point was mentioned in another thread by Jay) as 
well as the upgrade mechanism (if any is needed) that would best be served by a 
high bandwidth conversation on IRC (and those conversations are recorded on 
eavesdrop for others to benefit).

Would one of the technical cats from glare team drop by #opentack-kolla so we 
can get a quick (30 minutes) technical interview on the work to understand how 
this change impacts OpenStack in the short term (prior to Newton) and the long  
term layout of the two projects so we can make a determination a to how to 
proceed technically?  I don't necessarily need to be there - any of our core 
reviewer team can handle the Q - but would like to be there if possible.

If that doesn't work for the glare team, could we get 30 minutes of agenda time 
in what I'm sure is a busy glare team meeting to have the same technical 
discussion?

If that doesn't work for the glare team, we can host the topic in the kolla 
team meeting (UTC1600 on Wednesdays) if a glare core reviewer or the glare PTL 
can stop by.

Please let me know how you wish to proceed.

TIA
-steve

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