Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon][keystone][heat] Are AVAILABLE_REGIONS and multi-region service catalog mutually exclusive?

2015-05-15 Thread Douglas Fish
][keystone][heat] Are AVAILABLE_REGIONS and multi-region service catalog mutually exclusive? On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Geoff Arnold ge...@geoffarnold.com wrote: +1 There seems to be a significant disconnect between Heat, Horizon and Keystone on the subject of multi-region configurations

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon][keystone][heat] Are AVAILABLE_REGIONS and multi-region service catalog mutually exclusive?

2015-05-14 Thread Geoff Arnold
+1 There seems to be a significant disconnect between Heat, Horizon and Keystone on the subject of multi-region configurations, and the documentation isn’t helpful. At the very least, it would be useful if discussions at the summit could result in a decent Wiki page on the subject. Geoff On

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon][keystone][heat] Are AVAILABLE_REGIONS and multi-region service catalog mutually exclusive?

2015-05-14 Thread Geoff Arnold
That’s interesting, because I wasn’t aware that “cloud” was part of the formal OpenStack taxonomy. Historically, we defined a region as a set of endpoints, supplied by an instance of Keystone. You seem to be saying that a cloud is a collection of regions configured in the same Keystone.

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon][keystone][heat] Are AVAILABLE_REGIONS and multi-region service catalog mutually exclusive?

2015-05-14 Thread Geoff Arnold
+1 A wiki page laying out a mutually agreeable taxonomy seems like a good starting point. Geoff On May 14, 2015, at 7:47 AM, Anne Gentle annegen...@justwriteclick.com wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Geoff Arnold ge...@geoffarnold.com mailto:ge...@geoffarnold.com wrote: +1

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon][keystone][heat] Are AVAILABLE_REGIONS and multi-region service catalog mutually exclusive?

2015-05-14 Thread Anne Gentle
On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Geoff Arnold ge...@geoffarnold.com wrote: +1 There seems to be a significant disconnect between Heat, Horizon and Keystone on the subject of multi-region configurations, and the documentation isn’t helpful. At the very least, it would be useful if

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon][keystone][heat] Are AVAILABLE_REGIONS and multi-region service catalog mutually exclusive?

2015-05-14 Thread Zane Bitter
On 14/05/15 10:39, Geoff Arnold wrote: +1 There seems to be a significant disconnect between Heat, Horizon and Keystone on the subject of multi-region configurations, and the documentation isn’t helpful. At the very least, it would be useful if discussions at the summit could result in a decent

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon][keystone][heat] Are AVAILABLE_REGIONS and multi-region service catalog mutually exclusive?

2015-05-14 Thread Morgan Fainberg
On Thursday, May 14, 2015, Anne Gentle annegen...@justwriteclick.com wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Geoff Arnold ge...@geoffarnold.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ge...@geoffarnold.com'); wrote: +1 There seems to be a significant disconnect between Heat, Horizon and Keystone on

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon][keystone][heat] Are AVAILABLE_REGIONS and multi-region service catalog mutually exclusive?

2015-05-14 Thread Mathieu Gagné
On 2015-05-14 12:34 AM, David Lyle wrote: Horizon only supports authenticating to one keystone endpoint at a time, specifically to one of the entries in AVAILABLE_REGIONS as defined in settings.py. Once you have an authenticated session in Horizon, the region selection support is merely for

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon][keystone][heat] Are AVAILABLE_REGIONS and multi-region service catalog mutually exclusive?

2015-05-14 Thread Fox, Kevin M
Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon][keystone][heat] Are AVAILABLE_REGIONS and multi-region service catalog mutually exclusive? That’s interesting, because I wasn’t aware that “cloud” was part of the formal OpenStack taxonomy. Historically

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon][keystone][heat] Are AVAILABLE_REGIONS and multi-region service catalog mutually exclusive?

2015-05-14 Thread Zane Bitter
On 14/05/15 14:41, Geoff Arnold wrote: That’s interesting, because I wasn’t aware that “cloud” was part of the formal OpenStack taxonomy. Um, OK. AWS, Rackspace and Helion are all different clouds, even though the last two both run OpenStack. Do we really need a formal taxonomy for that?

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon][keystone][heat] Are AVAILABLE_REGIONS and multi-region service catalog mutually exclusive?

2015-05-14 Thread Geoff Arnold
If we don’t want to deprecate AVAILABLE_REGIONS, we certainly need to clean up the ambiguity. And to be honest, the existing documentation for both multi-region” schemes (AVAILABLE_REGIONS and Keystone based) is completely inadequate. Geoff On May 14, 2015, at 1:13 PM, Mathieu Gagné

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon][keystone][heat] Are AVAILABLE_REGIONS and multi-region service catalog mutually exclusive?

2015-05-13 Thread Morgan Fainberg
On May 13, 2015, at 21:34, David Lyle dkly...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Mathieu Gagné mga...@iweb.com wrote: When using AVAILABLE_REGIONS, you get a dropdown at login time to choose your region which is in fact your keystone endpoint. Once logged in, you get a

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon][keystone][heat] Are AVAILABLE_REGIONS and multi-region service catalog mutually exclusive?

2015-05-13 Thread Mathieu Gagné
When using AVAILABLE_REGIONS, you get a dropdown at login time to choose your region which is in fact your keystone endpoint. Once logged in, you get a new dropdown at the top right to switch between the keystone endpoints. This means you can configure an Horizon installation to login to multiple

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon][keystone][heat] Are AVAILABLE_REGIONS and multi-region service catalog mutually exclusive?

2015-05-13 Thread Geoff Arnold
Further digging suggests that we might consider deprecating AVAILABLE_REGIONS in Horizon and enhancing the multi-region support in Keystone. It wouldn’t take a lot; the main points: Implement the Regions API discussed back in the Havana time period -

[openstack-dev] [horizon][keystone][heat] Are AVAILABLE_REGIONS and multi-region service catalog mutually exclusive?

2015-05-13 Thread Geoff Arnold
I’m looking at implementing dynamically-configured multi-region support for service federation, and the prior art on multi-region support in Horizon is pretty sketchy. This thread: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack/2014-January/004372.html is the only real discussion I’ve found, and

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon][keystone][heat] Are AVAILABLE_REGIONS and multi-region service catalog mutually exclusive?

2015-05-13 Thread David Lyle
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Mathieu Gagné mga...@iweb.com wrote: When using AVAILABLE_REGIONS, you get a dropdown at login time to choose your region which is in fact your keystone endpoint. Once logged in, you get a new dropdown at the top right to switch between the keystone