Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Weekly Policy Meeting

[Steve Martinelli]

May I could suggest another action item? I think we need clear use cases.
What policy and authorization capabilities are users expecting keystone to
have? What are the short-comings of the implementation we have today?

On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Lance Bragstad  wrote:

> We had some issues using Hangouts because we hit the maximum limit of
> attendees. To make it so that everyone could participate equally, we moved
> the meeting to #openstack-keystone [0]. I have an action item to propose an
> official meeting to the irc-meetings repository. Patch for the meeting is
> currently up for review and it will be at the same time, but in
> #openstack-meeting-cp instead of #openstack-keystone [1]. We do have a list
> of action items we came up with during the meeting:
>
>- ACTION ITEM: ayoung to repropose https://review.openstack.org/#
>/c/391624/
>- ACTION ITEM: lbragstad to create an official meeting
>   - Done: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398500/
>- ACTION ITEM: the entire group to get familiar with Apache Fortress
>   - Docs: http://directory.apache.org/fortress/
>   - Example: http://xuctarine.blogspot.ru/2016/08/apache-fortress-
>   easiest-way-to-get-full.html
>- ACTION ITEM: the entire group to get familiar with OpenStack congress
>   - Docs: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Congress
>- ACTION ITEM: the entire group to get familiar with
>https://github.com/admiyo/keystone/tree/url_patterns
>
>
> The first item on the agenda will be following up on any action items from
> previous meetings. I've already bootstrapped the next agenda in the meeting
> etherpad [2]. Thanks again to everyone who attended and I look forward to
> next week's meeting.
>
>
> [0] http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-keystone/%
> 23openstack-keystone.2016-11-16.log.html#t2016-11-16T16:01:43
> [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398500/
> [2] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-policy-meeting
>
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 8:32 AM, Lance Bragstad 
> wrote:
>
>> Just sending out a reminder that we'll be having our first meeting in 90
>> minutes. You can find all information about our agenda in the etherpad [0]
>> as well as a link to the hangout [1].
>>
>> See you there!
>>
>> [0] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-policy-meeting
>> [1] https://hangouts.google.com/call/pd36j4qv5zfbldmhxeeatq6f7ae
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 8:33 AM, Lance Bragstad 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I've added some initial content to the etherpad [0], to get things
>>> rolling. Since this is going to be a recurring thing, I'd like our first
>>> meeting to level set the playing field for everyone. Let's spend some time
>>> getting familiar with policy concepts, understand exactly how OpenStack
>>> policy works today, then we can start working on writing down what we like
>>> and don't like about the existing implementation. I'm sure most people
>>> interested in this work will already be familiar with the problem, but I
>>> want to make it easy for folks who aren't to ramp up quickly and get them
>>> into the discussion.
>>>
>>> Some have already started contributing to the etherpad! I've slowly
>>> started massaging that information into our first agenda. I'll continue to
>>> do so and send out another email on Tuesday as a reminder to familiarize
>>> yourselves with the etherpad before the meeting.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>> [0] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-policy-meeting
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Steve Martinelli <
>>> s.martine...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks for taking the initiative Lance! It'll be great to hear some
 ideas that are capable of making policy more fine grained, and keeping
 things backwards compatible.

 On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Lance Bragstad 
 wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> After hearing the recaps from the summit, it sounds like policy was a
> hot topic (per usual). This is also reinforced by the fact every release 
> we
> have specifications proposed to re-do policy in some way.
>
> It's no doubt policy in OpenStack needs work. Let's dedicate an hour a
> week to policy, analyze what we have currently, design an ideal solution,
> and aim for that. We can bring our progress to the PTG in Atlanta.
>
> We'll hold the meeting openly using Google Hangouts and record our
> notes using etherpad.
>
> Our first meeting will be Wednesday, November 16th from 10:00 AM –
> 11:00 AM Central (16:00 - 17:00 UTC) and it will reoccur weekly.
>
> Hangout: https://hangouts.google.com/call/pd36j4qv5zfbldmhxeeatq6f7ae
> Etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-policy-meeting
>
> Let me know if you have any other questions, comments or concerns. I
> look forward to the first meeting!

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Weekly Policy Meeting

[Lance Bragstad]

We had some issues using Hangouts because we hit the maximum limit of
attendees. To make it so that everyone could participate equally, we moved
the meeting to #openstack-keystone [0]. I have an action item to propose an
official meeting to the irc-meetings repository. Patch for the meeting is
currently up for review and it will be at the same time, but in
#openstack-meeting-cp instead of #openstack-keystone [1]. We do have a list
of action items we came up with during the meeting:

   - ACTION ITEM: ayoung to repropose
   https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391624/
   - ACTION ITEM: lbragstad to create an official meeting
  - Done: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398500/
   - ACTION ITEM: the entire group to get familiar with Apache Fortress
  - Docs: http://directory.apache.org/fortress/
  - Example:
  
http://xuctarine.blogspot.ru/2016/08/apache-fortress-easiest-way-to-get-full.html
   - ACTION ITEM: the entire group to get familiar with OpenStack congress
  - Docs: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Congress
   - ACTION ITEM: the entire group to get familiar with
   https://github.com/admiyo/keystone/tree/url_patterns

The first item on the agenda will be following up on any action items from
previous meetings. I've already bootstrapped the next agenda in the meeting
etherpad [2]. Thanks again to everyone who attended and I look forward to
next week's meeting.


[0]
http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-keystone/%23openstack-keystone.2016-11-16.log.html#t2016-11-16T16:01:43
[1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398500/
[2] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-policy-meeting

On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 8:32 AM, Lance Bragstad  wrote:

> Just sending out a reminder that we'll be having our first meeting in 90
> minutes. You can find all information about our agenda in the etherpad [0]
> as well as a link to the hangout [1].
>
> See you there!
>
> [0] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-policy-meeting
> [1] https://hangouts.google.com/call/pd36j4qv5zfbldmhxeeatq6f7ae
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 8:33 AM, Lance Bragstad 
> wrote:
>
>> I've added some initial content to the etherpad [0], to get things
>> rolling. Since this is going to be a recurring thing, I'd like our first
>> meeting to level set the playing field for everyone. Let's spend some time
>> getting familiar with policy concepts, understand exactly how OpenStack
>> policy works today, then we can start working on writing down what we like
>> and don't like about the existing implementation. I'm sure most people
>> interested in this work will already be familiar with the problem, but I
>> want to make it easy for folks who aren't to ramp up quickly and get them
>> into the discussion.
>>
>> Some have already started contributing to the etherpad! I've slowly
>> started massaging that information into our first agenda. I'll continue to
>> do so and send out another email on Tuesday as a reminder to familiarize
>> yourselves with the etherpad before the meeting.
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> [0] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-policy-meeting
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Steve Martinelli > > wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for taking the initiative Lance! It'll be great to hear some
>>> ideas that are capable of making policy more fine grained, and keeping
>>> things backwards compatible.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Lance Bragstad 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi folks,

 After hearing the recaps from the summit, it sounds like policy was a
 hot topic (per usual). This is also reinforced by the fact every release we
 have specifications proposed to re-do policy in some way.

 It's no doubt policy in OpenStack needs work. Let's dedicate an hour a
 week to policy, analyze what we have currently, design an ideal solution,
 and aim for that. We can bring our progress to the PTG in Atlanta.

 We'll hold the meeting openly using Google Hangouts and record our
 notes using etherpad.

 Our first meeting will be Wednesday, November 16th from 10:00 AM –
 11:00 AM Central (16:00 - 17:00 UTC) and it will reoccur weekly.

 Hangout: https://hangouts.google.com/call/pd36j4qv5zfbldmhxeeatq6f7ae
 Etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-policy-meeting

 Let me know if you have any other questions, comments or concerns. I
 look forward to the first meeting!

 Lance

 
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Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Weekly Policy Meeting

[Lance Bragstad]

Just sending out a reminder that we'll be having our first meeting in 90
minutes. You can find all information about our agenda in the etherpad [0]
as well as a link to the hangout [1].

See you there!

[0] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-policy-meeting
[1] https://hangouts.google.com/call/pd36j4qv5zfbldmhxeeatq6f7ae


On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 8:33 AM, Lance Bragstad  wrote:

> I've added some initial content to the etherpad [0], to get things
> rolling. Since this is going to be a recurring thing, I'd like our first
> meeting to level set the playing field for everyone. Let's spend some time
> getting familiar with policy concepts, understand exactly how OpenStack
> policy works today, then we can start working on writing down what we like
> and don't like about the existing implementation. I'm sure most people
> interested in this work will already be familiar with the problem, but I
> want to make it easy for folks who aren't to ramp up quickly and get them
> into the discussion.
>
> Some have already started contributing to the etherpad! I've slowly
> started massaging that information into our first agenda. I'll continue to
> do so and send out another email on Tuesday as a reminder to familiarize
> yourselves with the etherpad before the meeting.
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> [0] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-policy-meeting
>
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Steve Martinelli 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for taking the initiative Lance! It'll be great to hear some ideas
>> that are capable of making policy more fine grained, and keeping things
>> backwards compatible.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Lance Bragstad 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> After hearing the recaps from the summit, it sounds like policy was a
>>> hot topic (per usual). This is also reinforced by the fact every release we
>>> have specifications proposed to re-do policy in some way.
>>>
>>> It's no doubt policy in OpenStack needs work. Let's dedicate an hour a
>>> week to policy, analyze what we have currently, design an ideal solution,
>>> and aim for that. We can bring our progress to the PTG in Atlanta.
>>>
>>> We'll hold the meeting openly using Google Hangouts and record our notes
>>> using etherpad.
>>>
>>> Our first meeting will be Wednesday, November 16th from 10:00 AM –
>>> 11:00 AM Central (16:00 - 17:00 UTC) and it will reoccur weekly.
>>>
>>> Hangout: https://hangouts.google.com/call/pd36j4qv5zfbldmhxeeatq6f7ae
>>> Etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-policy-meeting
>>>
>>> Let me know if you have any other questions, comments or concerns. I
>>> look forward to the first meeting!
>>>
>>> Lance
>>>
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Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Weekly Policy Meeting

[Lance Bragstad]

I've added some initial content to the etherpad [0], to get things rolling.
Since this is going to be a recurring thing, I'd like our first meeting to
level set the playing field for everyone. Let's spend some time getting
familiar with policy concepts, understand exactly how OpenStack policy
works today, then we can start working on writing down what we like and
don't like about the existing implementation. I'm sure most people
interested in this work will already be familiar with the problem, but I
want to make it easy for folks who aren't to ramp up quickly and get them
into the discussion.

Some have already started contributing to the etherpad! I've slowly started
massaging that information into our first agenda. I'll continue to do so
and send out another email on Tuesday as a reminder to familiarize
yourselves with the etherpad before the meeting.


Thanks!


[0] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-policy-meeting

On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Steve Martinelli 
wrote:

> Thanks for taking the initiative Lance! It'll be great to hear some ideas
> that are capable of making policy more fine grained, and keeping things
> backwards compatible.
>
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Lance Bragstad 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> After hearing the recaps from the summit, it sounds like policy was a hot
>> topic (per usual). This is also reinforced by the fact every release we
>> have specifications proposed to re-do policy in some way.
>>
>> It's no doubt policy in OpenStack needs work. Let's dedicate an hour a
>> week to policy, analyze what we have currently, design an ideal solution,
>> and aim for that. We can bring our progress to the PTG in Atlanta.
>>
>> We'll hold the meeting openly using Google Hangouts and record our notes
>> using etherpad.
>>
>> Our first meeting will be Wednesday, November 16th from 10:00 AM – 11:00
>> AM Central (16:00 - 17:00 UTC) and it will reoccur weekly.
>>
>> Hangout: https://hangouts.google.com/call/pd36j4qv5zfbldmhxeeatq6f7ae
>> Etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-policy-meeting
>>
>> Let me know if you have any other questions, comments or concerns. I look
>> forward to the first meeting!
>>
>> Lance
>>
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Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Weekly Policy Meeting

[Steve Martinelli]

Thanks for taking the initiative Lance! It'll be great to hear some ideas
that are capable of making policy more fine grained, and keeping things
backwards compatible.

On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Lance Bragstad  wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> After hearing the recaps from the summit, it sounds like policy was a hot
> topic (per usual). This is also reinforced by the fact every release we
> have specifications proposed to re-do policy in some way.
>
> It's no doubt policy in OpenStack needs work. Let's dedicate an hour a
> week to policy, analyze what we have currently, design an ideal solution,
> and aim for that. We can bring our progress to the PTG in Atlanta.
>
> We'll hold the meeting openly using Google Hangouts and record our notes
> using etherpad.
>
> Our first meeting will be Wednesday, November 16th from 10:00 AM – 11:00
> AM Central (16:00 - 17:00 UTC) and it will reoccur weekly.
>
> Hangout: https://hangouts.google.com/call/pd36j4qv5zfbldmhxeeatq6f7ae
> Etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-policy-meeting
>
> Let me know if you have any other questions, comments or concerns. I look
> forward to the first meeting!
>
> Lance
>
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[openstack-dev] [keystone] Weekly Policy Meeting

[Lance Bragstad]

Hi folks,

After hearing the recaps from the summit, it sounds like policy was a hot
topic (per usual). This is also reinforced by the fact every release we
have specifications proposed to re-do policy in some way.

It's no doubt policy in OpenStack needs work. Let's dedicate an hour a week
to policy, analyze what we have currently, design an ideal solution, and
aim for that. We can bring our progress to the PTG in Atlanta.

We'll hold the meeting openly using Google Hangouts and record our notes
using etherpad.

Our first meeting will be Wednesday, November 16th from 10:00 AM – 11:00 AM
Central (16:00 - 17:00 UTC) and it will reoccur weekly.

Hangout: https://hangouts.google.com/call/pd36j4qv5zfbldmhxeeatq6f7ae
Etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-policy-meeting

Let me know if you have any other questions, comments or concerns. I look
forward to the first meeting!

Lance
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