Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-21 Thread Joe Gordon
On Aug 20, 2014 10:56 AM, John Garbutt j...@johngarbutt.com wrote: On 18 August 2014 11:18, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Doug Hellmann wrote: On Aug 13, 2014, at 4:42 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: Let me try to say it another way. You seemed to say that it

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-20 Thread John Garbutt
On 18 August 2014 11:18, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Doug Hellmann wrote: On Aug 13, 2014, at 4:42 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: Let me try to say it another way. You seemed to say that it wasn't much to ask given the rate at which things happen in OpenStack. I

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-19 Thread Gary Kotton
@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 8:18 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.commailto:rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/18/2014 06:18 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Doug Hellmann wrote: On Aug 13, 2014, at 4:42 PM, Russell Bryant

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-19 Thread Avishay Traeger
I think to make the Summit sessions more effective: 1. The presenter to put in more effort beforehand - implement a rough POC, write up a detailed etherpad, etc. where everything is ready say 2-3 weeks before the Summit. Maybe even require a reviewed spec for sessions which introduce new

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-18 Thread Thierry Carrez
Doug Hellmann wrote: On Aug 13, 2014, at 4:42 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: Let me try to say it another way. You seemed to say that it wasn't much to ask given the rate at which things happen in OpenStack. I would argue that given the rate, we should not try to ask more of

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-18 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 12:18:16PM +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: Doug Hellmann wrote: On Aug 13, 2014, at 4:42 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: Let me try to say it another way. You seemed to say that it wasn't much to ask given the rate at which things happen in OpenStack. I

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-18 Thread Salvatore Orlando
As the conversation has drifted away from a discussion pertaining the nova core team, I have some comments inline as well. On 18 August 2014 12:18, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Doug Hellmann wrote: On Aug 13, 2014, at 4:42 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: Let me

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-18 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Le 18 août 2014 14:36, Salvatore Orlando sorla...@nicira.com a écrit : As the conversation has drifted away from a discussion pertaining the nova core team, I have some comments inline as well. On 18 August 2014 12:18, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Doug Hellmann wrote: On

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-18 Thread Russell Bryant
On 08/18/2014 06:18 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Doug Hellmann wrote: On Aug 13, 2014, at 4:42 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: Let me try to say it another way. You seemed to say that it wasn't much to ask given the rate at which things happen in OpenStack. I would argue that

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-18 Thread John Griffith
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/18/2014 06:18 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Doug Hellmann wrote: On Aug 13, 2014, at 4:42 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: Let me try to say it another way. You seemed to say that it wasn't much to

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-18 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 11:18:52AM -0400, Russell Bryant wrote: On 08/18/2014 06:18 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Doug Hellmann wrote: On Aug 13, 2014, at 4:42 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: Let me try to say it another way. You seemed to say that it wasn't much to ask given

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-18 Thread Maru Newby
On Aug 14, 2014, at 8:52 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/14/2014 11:40 AM, David Kranz wrote: On 08/14/2014 10:54 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 8/14/2014 3:47 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 09:24:36AM +1000, Michael Still wrote: On Thu, Aug 14,

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-18 Thread Maru Newby
On Aug 13, 2014, at 10:32 PM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: Just

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-18 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 3:18 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Doug Hellmann wrote: On Aug 13, 2014, at 4:42 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: Let me try to say it another way. You seemed to say that it wasn't much to ask given the rate at which things happen in

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-18 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 8:18 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/18/2014 06:18 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Doug Hellmann wrote: On Aug 13, 2014, at 4:42 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: Let me try to say it another way. You seemed to say that it wasn't much to

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-18 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 5:22 AM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 12:18:16PM +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: Doug Hellmann wrote: On Aug 13, 2014, at 4:42 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: Let me try to say it another way. You seemed to say

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-15 Thread Chris Jones
Hi On 14 Aug 2014, at 19:48, Dugger, Donald D donald.d.dug...@intel.com wrote: My experience with mics, no matter how good, In conference rooms is not good. +1 The ubuntu dev summits went through several iterations of trying to make remote participation effective, and I don't think we

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-15 Thread Sandy Walsh
Maybe we need to think about this from a distributed software perspective? * Divide and Conquer? Can we split the topics to create more manageable sub-groups? This way it's not core-vs-non-core but intererested-vs-moderately-interested. (of course, this is much the way the mailing list

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-15 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-08-14 09:33:20 -0400 (-0400), Russell Bryant wrote: [...] Another issue is that some folks are just fundamentally opposed to using Google [...] I think that's a shallow depiction of the issue. I'm sure *some* people really do just avoid Google specifically, but a bigger concern should

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-15 Thread John Griffith
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Jeremy Stanley fu...@yuggoth.org wrote: On 2014-08-14 09:33:20 -0400 (-0400), Russell Bryant wrote: [...] Another issue is that some folks are just fundamentally opposed to using Google [...] I think that's a shallow depiction of the issue. I'm sure

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-15 Thread Duncan Thomas
I've literally just finished the Cinder mid-cycle meetup (I'm still in my hotel room), and the value was huge and undeniable. Reading through this thread, I've just realised one massive advantage of the mid-cycle meetup that improved our productivity massively: it is in the middle of a cycle. We

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-14 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 09:24:36AM +1000, Michael Still wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 3:09 AM, Dan Smith d...@danplanet.com wrote: I'm not questioning the value of f2f - I'm questioning the idea of doing f2f meetings sooo many times a year. OpenStack is very much the outlier here among

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-14 Thread Russell Bryant
On 08/13/2014 07:27 PM, Michael Still wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 3:44 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/13/2014 01:09 PM, Dan Smith wrote: Expecting cores to be at these sorts of things seems pretty reasonable to me, given the usefulness (and gravity) of the discussions

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-14 Thread Russell Bryant
On 08/13/2014 11:31 PM, Michael Still wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: Just wanted to quickly weigh in with my thoughts on this important topic. I very much valued the face-to-face interaction that came from the mid-cycle meetup in Beaverton (it was

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-14 Thread Russell Bryant
On 08/13/2014 07:27 PM, Michael Still wrote: The etherpad for the meetup has extensive notes. Any summary I write will basically be those notes in prose. What are you looking for in a summary that isn't in the etherpad? There also wasn't a summary of the Icehouse midcycle produced that I can

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-14 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 08:31:48AM -0400, Russell Bryant wrote: On 08/13/2014 11:31 PM, Michael Still wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: Just wanted to quickly weigh in with my thoughts on this important topic. I very much valued the face-to-face

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-14 Thread CARVER, PAUL
Daniel P. Berrange [mailto:berra...@redhat.com] wrote: Depending on the usage needs, I think Google hangouts is a quite useful technology. For many-to-many session its limit of 10 participants can be an issue, but for a few-to-many broadcast it could be practical. What I find particularly

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-14 Thread Russell Bryant
On 08/14/2014 10:04 AM, CARVER, PAUL wrote: Daniel P. Berrange [mailto:berra...@redhat.com] wrote: Depending on the usage needs, I think Google hangouts is a quite useful technology. For many-to-many session its limit of 10 participants can be an issue, but for a few-to-many broadcast it

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-14 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 8/14/2014 3:47 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 09:24:36AM +1000, Michael Still wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 3:09 AM, Dan Smith d...@danplanet.com wrote: I'm not questioning the value of f2f - I'm questioning the idea of doing f2f meetings sooo many times a year.

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-14 Thread Sandy Walsh
On 8/14/2014 11:28 AM, Russell Bryant wrote: On 08/14/2014 10:04 AM, CARVER, PAUL wrote: Daniel P. Berrange [mailto:berra...@redhat.com] wrote: Depending on the usage needs, I think Google hangouts is a quite useful technology. For many-to-many session its limit of 10 participants can be an

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-14 Thread Anne Gentle
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:13 AM, Sandy Walsh sandy.wa...@rackspace.com wrote: On 8/14/2014 11:28 AM, Russell Bryant wrote: On 08/14/2014 10:04 AM, CARVER, PAUL wrote: Daniel P. Berrange [mailto:berra...@redhat.com] wrote: Depending on the usage needs, I think Google hangouts is a quite

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-14 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:13 AM, Sandy Walsh sandy.wa...@rackspace.com wrote: On 8/14/2014 11:28 AM, Russell Bryant wrote: On 08/14/2014 10:04 AM, CARVER, PAUL wrote: Daniel P. Berrange [mailto:berra...@redhat.com] wrote: Depending on the usage needs, I think Google hangouts is a quite

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-14 Thread CARVER, PAUL
Russell Bryant [mailto:rbry...@redhat.com] wrote: An ideal solution would allow attendees to join as individuals from anywhere. A lot of contributors work from home. Is that sort of thing compatible with your system? In principle, yes, but that loses the immersive telepresence aspect which is

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-14 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:31 AM, CARVER, PAUL pc2...@att.com wrote: Russell Bryant [mailto:rbry...@redhat.com] wrote: An ideal solution would allow attendees to join as individuals from anywhere. A lot of contributors work from home. Is that sort of thing compatible with your system? In

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-14 Thread Russell Bryant
On 08/14/2014 11:40 AM, David Kranz wrote: On 08/14/2014 10:54 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 8/14/2014 3:47 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 09:24:36AM +1000, Michael Still wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 3:09 AM, Dan Smith d...@danplanet.com wrote: I'm not questioning

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-14 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 1:47 AM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 09:24:36AM +1000, Michael Still wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 3:09 AM, Dan Smith d...@danplanet.com wrote: I'm not questioning the value of f2f - I'm questioning the idea of doing f2f

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-14 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Le 14 août 2014 21:56, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com a écrit : On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 1:47 AM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 09:24:36AM +1000, Michael Still wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 3:09 AM, Dan Smith d...@danplanet.com wrote: I'm not

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-14 Thread Andrew Laski
[mailto:joe.gord...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, August 13, 2014 10:48 PM *To:* OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) *Subject:* Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com mailto:mi

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-13 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 08:57:40AM +1000, Michael Still wrote: Hi. One of the action items from the nova midcycle was that I was asked to make nova's expectations of core reviews more clear. This email is an attempt at that. Nova expects a minimum level of sustained code reviews from

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-13 Thread Russell Bryant
On 08/12/2014 06:57 PM, Michael Still wrote: Hi. One of the action items from the nova midcycle was that I was asked to make nova's expectations of core reviews more clear. This email is an attempt at that. Note that we also have: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/CoreTeam so once

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-13 Thread Russell Bryant
On 08/13/2014 05:57 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 08:57:40AM +1000, Michael Still wrote: Hi. One of the action items from the nova midcycle was that I was asked to make nova's expectations of core reviews more clear. This email is an attempt at that. Nova expects a

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-13 Thread Joshua Harlow
A big +1 to what daniel said, If f2f events are becoming so important the only way to get things done, IMHO we should really start to do some reflection on how our community operates and start thinking about what we are doing wrong. Expecting every company to send developers (core or

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-13 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 7:55 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/13/2014 05:57 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 08:57:40AM +1000, Michael Still wrote: Hi. One of the action items from the nova midcycle was that I was asked to make nova's expectations of

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-13 Thread CARVER, PAUL
Daniel P. Berrange [mailto:berra...@redhat.com] wrote: our dispersed contributor base. I think that we should be examining what we can achieve with some kind of virtual online mid-cycle meetups instead. Using technology like google hangouts or some similar live collaboration technology, not

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-13 Thread Maru Newby
On Aug 13, 2014, at 2:57 AM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 08:57:40AM +1000, Michael Still wrote: Hi. One of the action items from the nova midcycle was that I was asked to make nova's expectations of core reviews more clear. This email is an

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-13 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 09:18:09AM -0700, Maru Newby wrote: On Aug 13, 2014, at 2:57 AM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 08:57:40AM +1000, Michael Still wrote: Hi. One of the action items from the nova midcycle was that I was asked to make

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-13 Thread Dan Smith
I'm not questioning the value of f2f - I'm questioning the idea of doing f2f meetings sooo many times a year. OpenStack is very much the outlier here among open source projects - the vast majority of projects get along very well with much less f2f time and a far smaller % of their

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-13 Thread Russell Bryant
On 08/13/2014 01:09 PM, Dan Smith wrote: Expecting cores to be at these sorts of things seems pretty reasonable to me, given the usefulness (and gravity) of the discussions we've been having so far. Companies with more cores will have to send more or make some hard decisions, but I don't want

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-13 Thread Mike Bayer
On Aug 13, 2014, at 1:44 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/13/2014 01:09 PM, Dan Smith wrote: Expecting cores to be at these sorts of things seems pretty reasonable to me, given the usefulness (and gravity) of the discussions we've been having so far. Companies with more

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-13 Thread Dan Smith
On 8/13/14 11:20 AM, Mike Bayer wrote: On Aug 13, 2014, at 1:44 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: I disagree. IMO, *expecting* people to travel, potentially across the globe, 4 times a year is an unreasonable expectation, and quite uncharacteristic of open source projects. If we

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-13 Thread Russell Bryant
On 08/13/2014 02:33 PM, Dan Smith wrote: On 8/13/14 11:20 AM, Mike Bayer wrote: On Aug 13, 2014, at 1:44 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: I disagree. IMO, *expecting* people to travel, potentially across the globe, 4 times a year is an unreasonable expectation, and quite

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-13 Thread Russell Bryant
On 08/13/2014 02:44 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: On 08/13/2014 02:33 PM, Dan Smith wrote: On 8/13/14 11:20 AM, Mike Bayer wrote: On Aug 13, 2014, at 1:44 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: I disagree. IMO, *expecting* people to travel, potentially across the globe, 4 times a year is

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 13, 2014, at 4:42 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/13/2014 02:44 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: On 08/13/2014 02:33 PM, Dan Smith wrote: On 8/13/14 11:20 AM, Mike Bayer wrote: On Aug 13, 2014, at 1:44 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: I disagree. IMO,

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-13 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 3:09 AM, Dan Smith d...@danplanet.com wrote: I'm not questioning the value of f2f - I'm questioning the idea of doing f2f meetings sooo many times a year. OpenStack is very much the outlier here among open source projects - the vast majority of projects get along very

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-13 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 3:44 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/13/2014 01:09 PM, Dan Smith wrote: Expecting cores to be at these sorts of things seems pretty reasonable to me, given the usefulness (and gravity) of the discussions we've been having so far. Companies with more

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-13 Thread Robert Collins
On 14 August 2014 05:44, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: By all means, if a subset wants to meet up and make progress on some things, I think that's fine. I don't think anyone think it's not useful. However, discussions need to be summarized and taken back to the list for

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-13 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/12/2014 06:57 PM, Michael Still wrote: Hi. One of the action items from the nova midcycle was that I was asked to make nova's expectations of core reviews more clear. This email is an attempt at that. Nova expects a minimum level of sustained code reviews from cores. In the past this has

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-13 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: Just wanted to quickly weigh in with my thoughts on this important topic. I very much valued the face-to-face interaction that came from the mid-cycle meetup in Beaverton (it was the only one I've ever been to). That said,

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-13 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: Just wanted to quickly weigh in with my thoughts on this important topic. I very much valued the face-to-face interaction that came from the

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-13 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: Just wanted to quickly weigh in with my thoughts on this important topic. I

[openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-12 Thread Michael Still
Hi. One of the action items from the nova midcycle was that I was asked to make nova's expectations of core reviews more clear. This email is an attempt at that. Nova expects a minimum level of sustained code reviews from cores. In the past this has been generally held to be in the order of two