Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] FYI, nova plans to have a room at the PTG in February

2016-10-11 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 10/11/2016 9:05 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: Since there seems to be broad based resistance to time boxing anything project specific, I'd like to propose a compromise: I'd like to ask that teams allow people to add their IRC nick to the agenda items they'd like to be included in, and at the

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] FYI, nova plans to have a room at the PTG in February

2016-10-11 Thread Thierry Carrez
Clint Byrum wrote: > [...] > Since there seems to be broad based resistance to time boxing anything > project specific, I'd like to propose a compromise: I'd like to ask that > teams allow people to add their IRC nick to the agenda items they'd like > to be included in, and at the beginning of a

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] FYI, nova plans to have a room at the PTG in February

2016-10-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2016-10-11 14:04:55 +0200: > Clint Byrum wrote: > > > Whatever we do, please consider dismantling the silos, rather than > > reinforcing them. > > We do dismantle the silos. (1) the upstream silos between vertical and > horizontal teams, by setting up

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] FYI, nova plans to have a room at the PTG in February

2016-10-11 Thread Thierry Carrez
Clint Byrum wrote: > I think there's some perspective warping going on, and it's very > concerning to me. > > Productivity inside the project is great, and we should definitely box > out more than just one day of the PTG for just those high bandwidth > internal project face to face discussions. >

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] FYI, nova plans to have a room at the PTG in February

2016-10-11 Thread Thierry Carrez
Doug Hellmann wrote: > Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2016-10-10 09:23:43 -0400: >> On 10/10/2016 08:37 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: >> >>> We had a lot of feedback that the unstructured discussion time from >>> the Friday "meetups" at the summits were the most productive time >>> for teams,

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] FYI, nova plans to have a room at the PTG in February

2016-10-11 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Le 10/10/2016 19:24, Clint Byrum a écrit : Excerpts from Matt Riedemann's message of 2016-10-10 11:51:36 -0500: On 10/10/2016 8:59 AM, Sean McGinnis wrote: On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 08:37:53AM -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: We had a lot of feedback that the unstructured discussion time from

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] FYI, nova plans to have a room at the PTG in February

2016-10-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Matt Riedemann's message of 2016-10-10 11:51:36 -0500: > On 10/10/2016 8:59 AM, Sean McGinnis wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 08:37:53AM -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: > >>> > >> > >> We had a lot of feedback that the unstructured discussion time from > >> the Friday "meetups" at

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] FYI, nova plans to have a room at the PTG in February

2016-10-10 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 10/10/2016 8:59 AM, Sean McGinnis wrote: On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 08:37:53AM -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: We had a lot of feedback that the unstructured discussion time from the Friday "meetups" at the summits were the most productive time for teams, but I'm sure there are quite a few cases

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] FYI, nova plans to have a room at the PTG in February

2016-10-10 Thread Sean Dague
On 10/10/2016 10:13 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2016-10-10 09:23:43 -0400: >> On 10/10/2016 08:37 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: >> >>> We had a lot of feedback that the unstructured discussion time from >>> the Friday "meetups" at the summits were the most

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] FYI, nova plans to have a room at the PTG in February

2016-10-10 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2016-10-10 09:23:43 -0400: > On 10/10/2016 08:37 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > We had a lot of feedback that the unstructured discussion time from > > the Friday "meetups" at the summits were the most productive time > > for teams, but I'm sure there are

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] FYI, nova plans to have a room at the PTG in February

2016-10-10 Thread Sean McGinnis
On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 08:37:53AM -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > > We had a lot of feedback that the unstructured discussion time from > the Friday "meetups" at the summits were the most productive time > for teams, but I'm sure there are quite a few cases like what you > describe. Maybe the

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] FYI, nova plans to have a room at the PTG in February

2016-10-10 Thread Sean Dague
On 10/10/2016 08:37 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > We had a lot of feedback that the unstructured discussion time from > the Friday "meetups" at the summits were the most productive time > for teams, but I'm sure there are quite a few cases like what you > describe. Maybe the solution is to schedule

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] FYI, nova plans to have a room at the PTG in February

2016-10-10 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Duncan Thomas's message of 2016-10-10 14:47:12 +0300: > On 7 October 2016 at 19:53, Clint Byrum wrote: > > > > > My hope was that it would be "the summit without the noise". Sounds like > > it will be "the summit without the noise, or the organization". > > > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] FYI, nova plans to have a room at the PTG in February

2016-10-10 Thread Duncan Thomas
On 7 October 2016 at 19:53, Clint Byrum wrote: > > My hope was that it would be "the summit without the noise". Sounds like > it will be "the summit without the noise, or the organization". > > I'd really like to see time boxes for most if not all of it, even if many > of the

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] FYI, nova plans to have a room at the PTG in February

2016-10-07 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2016-10-07 10:20:51 +0200: > Doug Hellmann wrote: > > Excerpts from Matt Riedemann's message of 2016-10-06 13:52:09 -0500: > >> Sorry yeah I screwed that up. I re-read the PTG email and the first two > >> days are cross-project things, and Wed-Fri are

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] FYI, nova plans to have a room at the PTG in February

2016-10-07 Thread Thierry Carrez
Clint Byrum wrote: > Excerpts from Matt Riedemann's message of 2016-10-06 11:33:35 -0500: >> Remember at a high level that the PTG is the replacement for the >> midcycle meetups, except it's centrally located and organized by the >> foundation, and it's at the release boundaries rather than the

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] FYI, nova plans to have a room at the PTG in February

2016-10-07 Thread Thierry Carrez
Doug Hellmann wrote: > Excerpts from Matt Riedemann's message of 2016-10-06 13:52:09 -0500: >> Sorry yeah I screwed that up. I re-read the PTG email and the first two >> days are cross-project things, and Wed-Fri are meetup style at the PTG, >> it's not time-boxed sessions like the design

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] FYI, nova plans to have a room at the PTG in February

2016-10-06 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Matt Riedemann's message of 2016-10-06 13:52:09 -0500: > On 10/6/2016 12:23 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: > > Excerpts from Matt Riedemann's message of 2016-10-06 11:33:35 -0500: > >> This is just a follow up email to the discussion about nova's > >> participation in the Project Team

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] FYI, nova plans to have a room at the PTG in February

2016-10-06 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 10/6/2016 12:23 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Matt Riedemann's message of 2016-10-06 11:33:35 -0500: This is just a follow up email to the discussion about nova's participation in the Project Team Gathering (PTG) in February right after the Ocata release. I had asked because the

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] FYI, nova plans to have a room at the PTG in February

2016-10-06 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Matt Riedemann's message of 2016-10-06 11:33:35 -0500: > This is just a follow up email to the discussion about nova's > participation in the Project Team Gathering (PTG) in February right > after the Ocata release. > > I had asked because the OpenStack Foundation is getting early

[openstack-dev] [nova] FYI, nova plans to have a room at the PTG in February

2016-10-06 Thread Matt Riedemann
This is just a follow up email to the discussion about nova's participation in the Project Team Gathering (PTG) in February right after the Ocata release. I had asked because the OpenStack Foundation is getting early feedback on which teams are planning to attend. Several people said they