Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Next minimum libvirt version

2017-02-13 Thread Thomas Bechtold
On Fri, 2017-02-10 at 12:35 -0600, Matt Riedemann wrote:
> On 2/10/2017 11:18 AM, Thomas Bechtold wrote:
> > 
> > For SUSE the wiki is updated and 1.2.9 should be fine.
> > 
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Tom
> > 
> 
> Thanks Tom.
> 
> Would 1.3.1 as the next minimum in Queens be acceptable for SUSE?

Yes.

Cheers,

Tom

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Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Next minimum libvirt version

2017-02-10 Thread Matt Riedemann

On 2/10/2017 11:18 AM, Thomas Bechtold wrote:


For SUSE the wiki is updated and 1.2.9 should be fine.


Cheers,

Tom



Thanks Tom.

Would 1.3.1 as the next minimum in Queens be acceptable for SUSE?

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Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Next minimum libvirt version

2017-02-10 Thread Thomas Bechtold
Hi,

On Thu, 2017-02-09 at 17:29 -0600, Matt Riedemann wrote:
> Since danpb hasn't been around I've sort of forgotten about this, but
> we 
> should talk about bumping the minimum required libvirt version in
> nova.
> 
> Currently it's 1.2.1 and the next was set to 1.2.9.
> 
> On master we're gating on ubuntu 14.04 which has libvirt 1.3.1
> (14.04 
> had 1.2.2).
> 
> If we move to require 1.2.9 that effectively kills 14.04 support for 
> devstack + libvirt on master, which is probably OK.
> 
> There is also the distro support wiki [1] which hasn't been updated
> in 
> awhile.

For SUSE the wiki is updated and 1.2.9 should be fine.


Cheers,

Tom

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Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Next minimum libvirt version

2017-02-10 Thread Kashyap Chamarthy
On Thu, Feb 09, 2017 at 05:29:22PM -0600, Matt Riedemann wrote:
> Since danpb hasn't been around I've sort of forgotten about this, but we
> should talk about bumping the minimum required libvirt version in nova.
> 
> Currently it's 1.2.1 and the next was set to 1.2.9.
> 
> On master we're gating on ubuntu 14.04 which has libvirt 1.3.1 (14.04 had
> 1.2.2).
> 
> If we move to require 1.2.9 that effectively kills 14.04 support for
> devstack + libvirt on master, which is probably OK.
> 
> There is also the distro support wiki [1] which hasn't been updated in
> awhile.
> 
> I'm wondering if 1.2.9 is a safe move for the next required minimum version
> and if so, does anyone have ideas on the next required version after that?

1.2.9 was release on OCT 2014.

And there have been 26 releases from 1.2.9 until now:

1.2.{10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21}
1.3.{0,1,2,3,4,5}
2.0.0 [01 JUL 2016]
2.1.0 [02 AUG 2016]
2.2.0 [02 SEP 2016]
2.3.0 [04 OCT 2016]
2.4.0 [01 NOV 2016]
2.5.0 [04 DEC 2016]
3.0.0 [17 JAN 2017]
3.1.0 [Unreleased, as of 10-FEB-2017]

IIUC, going by how[X] Dan settled on 1.1.1, as minimum version for
Newton, it seems like have to mine through the current releases,
that'll: 

  - provide unconditional support for specific features we need; 
  - removes need for maintaining backward compatibility code

[X] 
http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/2015-October/008400.html

---

Good news for future: Upstream libvirt recently started an effort to
make release notes more consumable, by writing more 'structured' release
notes, and categorizing the work into: new Features; improvements; and
bug fixes.

You can see the result by comparing this page:

http://libvirt.org/news.html

With the older releases (where it's mostly information from Git
commits):

http://libvirt.org/news-2016.html

[...]

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Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Next minimum libvirt version

2017-02-09 Thread Monty Taylor
On 02/09/2017 05:51 PM, Steve Gordon wrote:
> - Original Message -
>> From: "Matt Riedemann" <mriede...@gmail.com>
>> To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" 
>> <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>,
>> openstack-operat...@lists.openstack.org
>> Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2017 6:29:22 PM
>> Subject: [openstack-dev] [nova] Next minimum libvirt version
>>
>> Since danpb hasn't been around I've sort of forgotten about this, but we
>> should talk about bumping the minimum required libvirt version in nova.
>>
>> Currently it's 1.2.1 and the next was set to 1.2.9.
>>
>> On master we're gating on ubuntu 14.04 which has libvirt 1.3.1 (14.04
>> had 1.2.2).
>>
>> If we move to require 1.2.9 that effectively kills 14.04 support for
>> devstack + libvirt on master, which is probably OK.
> 
> This would also kill off RHEL/CentOS 7.1 support but that would also seem to 
> be OK at this point.

Our distro support policy is to at minimum support latest Ubuntu LTS and
latest RHEL. I think given that it's more than fine for us to drop
support for 14.04 and RHEL 7.1 in master.

>> There is also the distro support wiki [1] which hasn't been updated in
>> awhile.
> 
> I've added the details I have for Fedora 25 and RHEL/CentOS 7.3, TL;DR:
> 
> Fedora 25:
> Libvirt 2.2.0
> Qemu 2.7.1
> Libguestfs 1.34.3
> 
> RHEL 7.3:
> Libvirt 2.0.0
> Qemu 2.6.0
> Libguestfs 1.32.7


So I think, sadly, that means:
Libvirt: 1.3.1
Qemu: 2.5
Libguestfs: 1.32.3

Which are all the Xenial versions and what we're testing in the gate
(and older than the RHEL or Fedora versions)

FWIW, Yakkety has:
Libvirt: 2.1.0
Qemu: 2.6.1
Libguestfs: 1.32.7

so progress does seem to be being made there.

> 
>> I'm wondering if 1.2.9 is a safe move for the next required minimum
>> version and if so, does anyone have ideas on the next required version
>> after that?
>>
>> I'm hoping some of the Red Hat people can chime in here.
> 
> I just play someone intelligent on TV so adding Sahid and Vladik who might be 
> better placed to comment in Dan's absence.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Steve
> 


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Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Next minimum libvirt version

2017-02-09 Thread Steve Gordon
- Original Message -
> From: "Matt Riedemann" <mriede...@gmail.com>
> To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" 
> <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>,
> openstack-operat...@lists.openstack.org
> Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2017 6:29:22 PM
> Subject: [openstack-dev] [nova] Next minimum libvirt version
> 
> Since danpb hasn't been around I've sort of forgotten about this, but we
> should talk about bumping the minimum required libvirt version in nova.
> 
> Currently it's 1.2.1 and the next was set to 1.2.9.
> 
> On master we're gating on ubuntu 14.04 which has libvirt 1.3.1 (14.04
> had 1.2.2).
> 
> If we move to require 1.2.9 that effectively kills 14.04 support for
> devstack + libvirt on master, which is probably OK.

This would also kill off RHEL/CentOS 7.1 support but that would also seem to be 
OK at this point.

> There is also the distro support wiki [1] which hasn't been updated in
> awhile.

I've added the details I have for Fedora 25 and RHEL/CentOS 7.3, TL;DR:

Fedora 25:
Libvirt 2.2.0
Qemu 2.7.1
Libguestfs 1.34.3

RHEL 7.3:
Libvirt 2.0.0
Qemu 2.6.0
Libguestfs 1.32.7
 

> I'm wondering if 1.2.9 is a safe move for the next required minimum
> version and if so, does anyone have ideas on the next required version
> after that?
> 
> I'm hoping some of the Red Hat people can chime in here.

I just play someone intelligent on TV so adding Sahid and Vladik who might be 
better placed to comment in Dan's absence.

Thanks,

Steve

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[openstack-dev] [nova] Next minimum libvirt version

2017-02-09 Thread Matt Riedemann
Since danpb hasn't been around I've sort of forgotten about this, but we 
should talk about bumping the minimum required libvirt version in nova.


Currently it's 1.2.1 and the next was set to 1.2.9.

On master we're gating on ubuntu 14.04 which has libvirt 1.3.1 (14.04 
had 1.2.2).


If we move to require 1.2.9 that effectively kills 14.04 support for 
devstack + libvirt on master, which is probably OK.


There is also the distro support wiki [1] which hasn't been updated in 
awhile.


I'm wondering if 1.2.9 is a safe move for the next required minimum 
version and if so, does anyone have ideas on the next required version 
after that?


I'm hoping some of the Red Hat people can chime in here.

[1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/LibvirtDistroSupportMatrix

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Matt Riedemann

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