Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Retrospective veto revert policy

2014-08-14 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2014-08-12 at 15:56 +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote: Hey (Terrible name for a policy, I know) From the version_cap saga here: https://review.openstack.org/110754 I think we need a better understanding of how to approach situations like this. Here's my attempt at documenting

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Retrospective veto revert policy

2014-08-14 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:06:13AM +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Tue, 2014-08-12 at 15:56 +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote: Hey (Terrible name for a policy, I know) From the version_cap saga here: https://review.openstack.org/110754 I think we need a better understanding of

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Retrospective veto revert policy

2014-08-14 Thread Nikola ─Éipanov
On 08/14/2014 11:11 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:06:13AM +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Tue, 2014-08-12 at 15:56 +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote: Hey (Terrible name for a policy, I know) From the version_cap saga here: https://review.openstack.org/110754 I

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Retrospective veto revert policy

2014-08-14 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2014-08-12 at 15:56 +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote: Hey (Terrible name for a policy, I know) From the version_cap saga here: https://review.openstack.org/110754 I think we need a better understanding of how to approach situations like this. Here's my attempt at documenting

[openstack-dev] [nova] Retrospective veto revert policy

2014-08-12 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hey (Terrible name for a policy, I know) From the version_cap saga here: https://review.openstack.org/110754 I think we need a better understanding of how to approach situations like this. Here's my attempt at documenting what I think we're expecting the procedure to be:

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Retrospective veto revert policy

2014-08-12 Thread Russell Bryant
On 08/12/2014 10:56 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: Hey (Terrible name for a policy, I know) From the version_cap saga here: https://review.openstack.org/110754 I think we need a better understanding of how to approach situations like this. Here's my attempt at documenting what I

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Retrospective veto revert policy

2014-08-12 Thread Dan Smith
Looks reasonable to me. +1 --Dan signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Retrospective veto revert policy

2014-08-12 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/12/2014 10:56 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: Hey (Terrible name for a policy, I know) From the version_cap saga here: https://review.openstack.org/110754 I think we need a better understanding of how to approach situations like this. Here's my attempt at documenting what I think we're

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Retrospective veto revert policy

2014-08-12 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote: Hey (Terrible name for a policy, I know) From the version_cap saga here: https://review.openstack.org/110754 I think we need a better understanding of how to approach situations like this. Here's my attempt at

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Retrospective veto revert policy

2014-08-12 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/12/2014 10:56 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: Hey (Terrible name for a policy, I know) From the version_cap saga here: https://review.openstack.org/110754 I think we need a better understanding of how to approach

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Retrospective veto revert policy

2014-08-12 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 03:56:44PM +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote: Hey (Terrible name for a policy, I know) From the version_cap saga here: https://review.openstack.org/110754 I think we need a better understanding of how to approach situations like this. Here's my attempt at

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Retrospective veto revert policy

2014-08-12 Thread Thierry Carrez
Dan Smith wrote: Looks reasonable to me. +1 +1 -- Thierry Carrez (ttx) ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Retrospective veto revert policy

2014-08-12 Thread Anne Gentle
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote: Hey (Terrible name for a policy, I know) From the version_cap saga here: https://review.openstack.org/110754 I think we need a better understanding of how to approach situations like this. Here's my attempt at

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Retrospective veto revert policy

2014-08-12 Thread Michael Still
This looks reasonable to me, with a slight concern that I don't know what step five looks like... What if we can never reach a consensus on an issue? Michael On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 12:56 AM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote: Hey (Terrible name for a policy, I know) From the

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Retrospective veto revert policy

2014-08-12 Thread Kevin Benton
Should subsequent patches be reverted as well that depended on the change in question? On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 7:56 AM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote: Hey (Terrible name for a policy, I know) From the version_cap saga here: https://review.openstack.org/110754 I think we

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Retrospective veto revert policy

2014-08-12 Thread Michael Still
Actually, thinking on this more -- the lack of consensus is on the attempt to re-add the patch, so I guess we'd handle that just like we do for a contentious patch now. Michael On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 7:03 AM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: This looks reasonable to me, with a slight

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Retrospective veto revert policy

2014-08-12 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 8/12/2014 4:03 PM, Michael Still wrote: This looks reasonable to me, with a slight concern that I don't know what step five looks like... What if we can never reach a consensus on an issue? Michael On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 12:56 AM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote: Hey (Terrible

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Retrospective veto revert policy

2014-08-12 Thread Russell Bryant
On Aug 12, 2014, at 5:10 PM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: This looks reasonable to me, with a slight concern that I don't know what step five looks like... What if we can never reach a consensus on an issue? In an extreme case, the PTL has the authority to make the call. In

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Retrospective veto revert policy

2014-08-12 Thread Michael Still
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On Aug 12, 2014, at 5:10 PM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: This looks reasonable to me, with a slight concern that I don't know what step five looks like... What if we can never reach a consensus on an issue?