Re: [openstack-dev] [relmgt] PTL non-candidacy

2015-09-16 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2015-09-16 11:33:34 +0200:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I have been handling release management for OpenStack since the
> beginning of this story, well before Release Management was a program or
> a project team needing a proper elected PTL. Until recently it was
> largely a one-man job. But starting with this cycle, to accommodate the
> Big Tent changes, we grew the team significantly, to the point where I
> think it is healthy to set up a PTL rotation in the team.
> 
> I generally think it's a good thing to change the PTL for a team from
> time to time. That allows different perspectives, skills and focus to be
> brought to a project team. That lets you take a step back. That allows
> to recognize the efforts and leadership of other members, which is
> difficult if you hold on the throne. So I decided to put my foot where
> my mouth is and apply those principles to my own team.
> 
> That doesn't mean I won't be handling release management for Mitaka, or
> that I won't ever be Release Management PTL again -- it's just that
> someone else will take the PTL hat for the next cycle, drive the effort
> and be the most visible ambassador of the team.
> 
> Cheers,
> 

Thank you for the hard work you've put into building the release team,
Thierry, and thank you for hanging in there long enough that some of the
rest of us could be trained up properly.

Doug

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[openstack-dev] [relmgt] PTL non-candidacy

2015-09-16 Thread Thierry Carrez
Hi everyone,

I have been handling release management for OpenStack since the
beginning of this story, well before Release Management was a program or
a project team needing a proper elected PTL. Until recently it was
largely a one-man job. But starting with this cycle, to accommodate the
Big Tent changes, we grew the team significantly, to the point where I
think it is healthy to set up a PTL rotation in the team.

I generally think it's a good thing to change the PTL for a team from
time to time. That allows different perspectives, skills and focus to be
brought to a project team. That lets you take a step back. That allows
to recognize the efforts and leadership of other members, which is
difficult if you hold on the throne. So I decided to put my foot where
my mouth is and apply those principles to my own team.

That doesn't mean I won't be handling release management for Mitaka, or
that I won't ever be Release Management PTL again -- it's just that
someone else will take the PTL hat for the next cycle, drive the effort
and be the most visible ambassador of the team.

Cheers,

-- 
Thierry Carrez (ttx)

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Re: [openstack-dev] [relmgt] PTL non-candidacy

2015-09-16 Thread Jay Pipes

On 09/16/2015 05:33 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote:

Hi everyone,

I have been handling release management for OpenStack since the
beginning of this story, well before Release Management was a program or
a project team needing a proper elected PTL. Until recently it was
largely a one-man job. But starting with this cycle, to accommodate the
Big Tent changes, we grew the team significantly, to the point where I
think it is healthy to set up a PTL rotation in the team.

I generally think it's a good thing to change the PTL for a team from
time to time. That allows different perspectives, skills and focus to be
brought to a project team. That lets you take a step back. That allows
to recognize the efforts and leadership of other members, which is
difficult if you hold on the throne. So I decided to put my foot where
my mouth is and apply those principles to my own team.

That doesn't mean I won't be handling release management for Mitaka, or
that I won't ever be Release Management PTL again -- it's just that
someone else will take the PTL hat for the next cycle, drive the effort
and be the most visible ambassador of the team.


It's tough to express the thanks I have for your patience and experience 
in the past 5 years handling this often thankless but critically 
important position.


From the bottom of my heart, thank you Thierry.

Best,
-jay

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Re: [openstack-dev] [relmgt] PTL non-candidacy

2015-09-16 Thread Bruno Cornec

Hello Thierry,

Thierry Carrez said on Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 11:33:34AM +0200:

I generally think it's a good thing to change the PTL for a team from
time to time. That allows different perspectives, skills and focus to be
brought to a project team. That lets you take a step back. That allows
to recognize the efforts and leadership of other members, which is
difficult if you hold on the throne. So I decided to put my foot where
my mouth is and apply those principles to my own team.


Bravo pour le courage, car ce ne doit pas être une décision facile à
prendre néanmoins.


That doesn't mean I won't be handling release management for Mitaka, or
that I won't ever be Release Management PTL again 


Je pense que tout le monde l'espère !
Bruno.
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Re: [openstack-dev] [relmgt] PTL non-candidacy

2015-09-16 Thread Bruno Cornec

Hello,

Sorry was meant as a private answer to Thierry.
Anyway for those curious, here is the translation now it's public (my
bad).

Bruno Cornec said on Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 01:44:25PM +0200:

Thierry Carrez said on Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 11:33:34AM +0200:

I generally think it's a good thing to change the PTL for a team from
time to time. That allows different perspectives, skills and focus to be
brought to a project team. That lets you take a step back. That allows
to recognize the efforts and leadership of other members, which is
difficult if you hold on the throne. So I decided to put my foot where
my mouth is and apply those principles to my own team.


Bravo pour le courage, car ce ne doit pas être une décision facile à
prendre néanmoins.


Congrats for the courage, as that shouldn't be however an easy decision to take


That doesn't mean I won't be handling release management for Mitaka, or
that I won't ever be Release Management PTL again


Je pense que tout le monde l'espère !


I think everybidy hopes that !

Bruno, who needs to better read headers next time.
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Re: [openstack-dev] [relmgt] PTL non-candidacy

2015-09-16 Thread Neil Jerram
On 16/09/15 13:13, Bruno Cornec wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Sorry was meant as a private answer to Thierry.
> Anyway for those curious, here is the translation now it's public (my
> bad).

For what it's worth, I enjoyed seeing some French on the list... :-)

Neil


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Re: [openstack-dev] [relmgt] PTL non-candidacy

2015-09-16 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 4:33 AM, Thierry Carrez 
wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I have been handling release management for OpenStack since the
> beginning of this story, well before Release Management was a program or
> a project team needing a proper elected PTL. Until recently it was
> largely a one-man job. But starting with this cycle, to accommodate the
> Big Tent changes, we grew the team significantly, to the point where I
> think it is healthy to set up a PTL rotation in the team.
>
> I generally think it's a good thing to change the PTL for a team from
> time to time. That allows different perspectives, skills and focus to be
> brought to a project team. That lets you take a step back. That allows
> to recognize the efforts and leadership of other members, which is
> difficult if you hold on the throne. So I decided to put my foot where
> my mouth is and apply those principles to my own team.
>
> That doesn't mean I won't be handling release management for Mitaka, or
> that I won't ever be Release Management PTL again -- it's just that
> someone else will take the PTL hat for the next cycle, drive the effort
> and be the most visible ambassador of the team.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
You've done an amazing job as release management PTL. The project has been
incredibly lucky to have you handling this, and it's great to see you
rotating the position to grow more leadership in the team. Thanks for all
you've done over the years!

Kyle


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Re: [openstack-dev] [relmgt] PTL non-candidacy

2015-09-16 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 16, 2015, at 4:33 AM, Thierry Carrez  wrote:

> But starting with this cycle, to accommodate the
> Big Tent changes, we grew the team significantly, to the point where I
> think it is healthy to set up a PTL rotation in the team.

I strongly agree, and thank you for your wisdom in recognizing this. You've 
done us all so much good with your Release Management work to date, and I'm 
glad that you'll still be involved.

-- Ed Leafe







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Re: [openstack-dev] [relmgt] PTL non-candidacy

2015-09-16 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 09/16/2015 11:33 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I have been handling release management for OpenStack since the
> beginning of this story, well before Release Management was a program or
> a project team needing a proper elected PTL. Until recently it was
> largely a one-man job. But starting with this cycle, to accommodate the
> Big Tent changes, we grew the team significantly, to the point where I
> think it is healthy to set up a PTL rotation in the team.
> 
> I generally think it's a good thing to change the PTL for a team from
> time to time. That allows different perspectives, skills and focus to be
> brought to a project team. That lets you take a step back. That allows
> to recognize the efforts and leadership of other members, which is
> difficult if you hold on the throne. So I decided to put my foot where
> my mouth is and apply those principles to my own team.
> 
> That doesn't mean I won't be handling release management for Mitaka, or
> that I won't ever be Release Management PTL again -- it's just that
> someone else will take the PTL hat for the next cycle, drive the effort
> and be the most visible ambassador of the team.
> 
> Cheers,

If we are switching from you to Doug, we'll be switching from an awesome
person to another also awesome one. Thanks for all the work.

Cheers,

Thomas


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