Re: [openstack-dev] [relmgt] PTL non-candidacy
Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2015-09-16 11:33:34 +0200: > Hi everyone, > > I have been handling release management for OpenStack since the > beginning of this story, well before Release Management was a program or > a project team needing a proper elected PTL. Until recently it was > largely a one-man job. But starting with this cycle, to accommodate the > Big Tent changes, we grew the team significantly, to the point where I > think it is healthy to set up a PTL rotation in the team. > > I generally think it's a good thing to change the PTL for a team from > time to time. That allows different perspectives, skills and focus to be > brought to a project team. That lets you take a step back. That allows > to recognize the efforts and leadership of other members, which is > difficult if you hold on the throne. So I decided to put my foot where > my mouth is and apply those principles to my own team. > > That doesn't mean I won't be handling release management for Mitaka, or > that I won't ever be Release Management PTL again -- it's just that > someone else will take the PTL hat for the next cycle, drive the effort > and be the most visible ambassador of the team. > > Cheers, > Thank you for the hard work you've put into building the release team, Thierry, and thank you for hanging in there long enough that some of the rest of us could be trained up properly. Doug __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
[openstack-dev] [relmgt] PTL non-candidacy
Hi everyone, I have been handling release management for OpenStack since the beginning of this story, well before Release Management was a program or a project team needing a proper elected PTL. Until recently it was largely a one-man job. But starting with this cycle, to accommodate the Big Tent changes, we grew the team significantly, to the point where I think it is healthy to set up a PTL rotation in the team. I generally think it's a good thing to change the PTL for a team from time to time. That allows different perspectives, skills and focus to be brought to a project team. That lets you take a step back. That allows to recognize the efforts and leadership of other members, which is difficult if you hold on the throne. So I decided to put my foot where my mouth is and apply those principles to my own team. That doesn't mean I won't be handling release management for Mitaka, or that I won't ever be Release Management PTL again -- it's just that someone else will take the PTL hat for the next cycle, drive the effort and be the most visible ambassador of the team. Cheers, -- Thierry Carrez (ttx) __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [relmgt] PTL non-candidacy
On 09/16/2015 05:33 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi everyone, I have been handling release management for OpenStack since the beginning of this story, well before Release Management was a program or a project team needing a proper elected PTL. Until recently it was largely a one-man job. But starting with this cycle, to accommodate the Big Tent changes, we grew the team significantly, to the point where I think it is healthy to set up a PTL rotation in the team. I generally think it's a good thing to change the PTL for a team from time to time. That allows different perspectives, skills and focus to be brought to a project team. That lets you take a step back. That allows to recognize the efforts and leadership of other members, which is difficult if you hold on the throne. So I decided to put my foot where my mouth is and apply those principles to my own team. That doesn't mean I won't be handling release management for Mitaka, or that I won't ever be Release Management PTL again -- it's just that someone else will take the PTL hat for the next cycle, drive the effort and be the most visible ambassador of the team. It's tough to express the thanks I have for your patience and experience in the past 5 years handling this often thankless but critically important position. From the bottom of my heart, thank you Thierry. Best, -jay __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [relmgt] PTL non-candidacy
Hello Thierry, Thierry Carrez said on Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 11:33:34AM +0200: I generally think it's a good thing to change the PTL for a team from time to time. That allows different perspectives, skills and focus to be brought to a project team. That lets you take a step back. That allows to recognize the efforts and leadership of other members, which is difficult if you hold on the throne. So I decided to put my foot where my mouth is and apply those principles to my own team. Bravo pour le courage, car ce ne doit pas être une décision facile à prendre néanmoins. That doesn't mean I won't be handling release management for Mitaka, or that I won't ever be Release Management PTL again Je pense que tout le monde l'espère ! Bruno. -- Open Source Profession, Linux Community Lead WW http://opensource.hp.com HP EMEA EG Open Source Technology Strategist http://hpintelco.net FLOSS projects: http://mondorescue.org http://project-builder.org Musique ancienne? http://www.musique-ancienne.org http://www.medieval.org __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [relmgt] PTL non-candidacy
Hello, Sorry was meant as a private answer to Thierry. Anyway for those curious, here is the translation now it's public (my bad). Bruno Cornec said on Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 01:44:25PM +0200: Thierry Carrez said on Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 11:33:34AM +0200: I generally think it's a good thing to change the PTL for a team from time to time. That allows different perspectives, skills and focus to be brought to a project team. That lets you take a step back. That allows to recognize the efforts and leadership of other members, which is difficult if you hold on the throne. So I decided to put my foot where my mouth is and apply those principles to my own team. Bravo pour le courage, car ce ne doit pas être une décision facile à prendre néanmoins. Congrats for the courage, as that shouldn't be however an easy decision to take That doesn't mean I won't be handling release management for Mitaka, or that I won't ever be Release Management PTL again Je pense que tout le monde l'espère ! I think everybidy hopes that ! Bruno, who needs to better read headers next time. -- Open Source Profession, Linux Community Lead WW http://opensource.hp.com HP EMEA EG Open Source Technology Strategist http://hpintelco.net FLOSS projects: http://mondorescue.org http://project-builder.org Musique ancienne? http://www.musique-ancienne.org http://www.medieval.org __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [relmgt] PTL non-candidacy
On 16/09/15 13:13, Bruno Cornec wrote: > Hello, > > Sorry was meant as a private answer to Thierry. > Anyway for those curious, here is the translation now it's public (my > bad). For what it's worth, I enjoyed seeing some French on the list... :-) Neil __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [relmgt] PTL non-candidacy
On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 4:33 AM, Thierry Carrezwrote: > Hi everyone, > > I have been handling release management for OpenStack since the > beginning of this story, well before Release Management was a program or > a project team needing a proper elected PTL. Until recently it was > largely a one-man job. But starting with this cycle, to accommodate the > Big Tent changes, we grew the team significantly, to the point where I > think it is healthy to set up a PTL rotation in the team. > > I generally think it's a good thing to change the PTL for a team from > time to time. That allows different perspectives, skills and focus to be > brought to a project team. That lets you take a step back. That allows > to recognize the efforts and leadership of other members, which is > difficult if you hold on the throne. So I decided to put my foot where > my mouth is and apply those principles to my own team. > > That doesn't mean I won't be handling release management for Mitaka, or > that I won't ever be Release Management PTL again -- it's just that > someone else will take the PTL hat for the next cycle, drive the effort > and be the most visible ambassador of the team. > > Cheers, > > You've done an amazing job as release management PTL. The project has been incredibly lucky to have you handling this, and it's great to see you rotating the position to grow more leadership in the team. Thanks for all you've done over the years! Kyle -- > Thierry Carrez (ttx) > > __ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [relmgt] PTL non-candidacy
On Sep 16, 2015, at 4:33 AM, Thierry Carrezwrote: > But starting with this cycle, to accommodate the > Big Tent changes, we grew the team significantly, to the point where I > think it is healthy to set up a PTL rotation in the team. I strongly agree, and thank you for your wisdom in recognizing this. You've done us all so much good with your Release Management work to date, and I'm glad that you'll still be involved. -- Ed Leafe signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [relmgt] PTL non-candidacy
On 09/16/2015 11:33 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I have been handling release management for OpenStack since the > beginning of this story, well before Release Management was a program or > a project team needing a proper elected PTL. Until recently it was > largely a one-man job. But starting with this cycle, to accommodate the > Big Tent changes, we grew the team significantly, to the point where I > think it is healthy to set up a PTL rotation in the team. > > I generally think it's a good thing to change the PTL for a team from > time to time. That allows different perspectives, skills and focus to be > brought to a project team. That lets you take a step back. That allows > to recognize the efforts and leadership of other members, which is > difficult if you hold on the throne. So I decided to put my foot where > my mouth is and apply those principles to my own team. > > That doesn't mean I won't be handling release management for Mitaka, or > that I won't ever be Release Management PTL again -- it's just that > someone else will take the PTL hat for the next cycle, drive the effort > and be the most visible ambassador of the team. > > Cheers, If we are switching from you to Doug, we'll be switching from an awesome person to another also awesome one. Thanks for all the work. Cheers, Thomas __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev