Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][releases] Remove diskimage-builder from releases

2016-04-19 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2016-04-19 15:34:16 -0400 (-0400), James Slagle wrote: > A fork would be unfortunate. What about a new repo that's just for > the elements used heavily by infra, e.g., > openstack-infra-elements. [...] We do already have a bunch of elements in openstack-infra/project-config, so most of the velo

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][releases] Remove diskimage-builder from releases

2016-04-19 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Ian Wienand's message of 2016-04-20 06:25:17 +1000: > On 04/20/2016 03:25 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > It's not just about control, it's also about communication. One of > > the most frequent refrains we hear is "what is OpenStack", and one > > way we're trying to answer that is to pu

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][releases] Remove diskimage-builder from releases

2016-04-19 Thread Gregory Haynes
On Tue, Apr 19, 2016, at 01:25 PM, Ian Wienand wrote: > On 04/20/2016 03:25 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > It's not just about control, it's also about communication. One of > > the most frequent refrains we hear is "what is OpenStack", and one > > way we're trying to answer that is to publicize all

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][releases] Remove diskimage-builder from releases

2016-04-19 Thread Ian Wienand
On 04/20/2016 06:09 AM, Fox, Kevin M wrote: I've seen dib updated and broken things. I've seen dib elements updated and things broke (centos6 removal in particular hurt.) By the time it gets to a release, however, anything we've broken is already baked in. Any changes in there have already

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][releases] Remove diskimage-builder from releases

2016-04-19 Thread Ian Wienand
On 04/20/2016 03:25 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: It's not just about control, it's also about communication. One of the most frequent refrains we hear is "what is OpenStack", and one way we're trying to answer that is to publicize all of the things we release through releases.openstack.org. So for

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][releases] Remove diskimage-builder from releases

2016-04-19 Thread Gregory Haynes
On Tue, Apr 19, 2016, at 10:25 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > Excerpts from Jeremy Stanley's message of 2016-04-19 15:41:26 +: > > On 2016-04-19 09:22:57 -0400 (-0400), Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > Excerpts from Ian Wienand's message of 2016-04-19 12:11:35 +1000: > > [...] > > > > I don't expect the

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][releases] Remove diskimage-builder from releases

2016-04-19 Thread Fox, Kevin M
Tuesday, April 19, 2016 12:34 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][releases] Remove diskimage-builder from releases On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 11:41 AM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > DIB is an unfortunate combination of a mos

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][releases] Remove diskimage-builder from releases

2016-04-19 Thread James Slagle
On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 11:41 AM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > DIB is an unfortunate combination of a mostly stable framework and a > large pre-written set of scripts and declarative data which is > constantly evolving for widespread use outside the OpenStack > ecosystem (so most of the change volume i

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][releases] Remove diskimage-builder from releases

2016-04-19 Thread James Slagle
On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > It's not just about control, it's also about communication. One of > the most frequent refrains we hear is "what is OpenStack", and one > way we're trying to answer that is to publicize all of the things > we release through releases.openstac

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][releases] Remove diskimage-builder from releases

2016-04-19 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Jeremy Stanley's message of 2016-04-19 15:41:26 +: > On 2016-04-19 09:22:57 -0400 (-0400), Doug Hellmann wrote: > > Excerpts from Ian Wienand's message of 2016-04-19 12:11:35 +1000: > [...] > > > I don't expect the stable release team to be involved with all this; > > > but if we

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][releases] Remove diskimage-builder from releases

2016-04-19 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2016-04-19 09:22:57 -0400 (-0400), Doug Hellmann wrote: > Excerpts from Ian Wienand's message of 2016-04-19 12:11:35 +1000: [...] > > I don't expect the stable release team to be involved with all this; > > but if we miss windows then we're left either going to efforts getting > > one of a handf

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][releases] Remove diskimage-builder from releases

2016-04-19 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Ian Wienand's message of 2016-04-19 12:11:35 +1000: > Hi, > > diskimage-builder has fallen under the "centralised release tagging" > mechanism [1], presumably because it is under tripleo. I'd like to > propose that we don't do that. Yes, we've set up all official projects to use th

[openstack-dev] [tripleo][releases] Remove diskimage-builder from releases

2016-04-18 Thread Ian Wienand
Hi, diskimage-builder has fallen under the "centralised release tagging" mechanism [1], presumably because it is under tripleo. I'd like to propose that we don't do that. Firstly, dib doesn't have any branches to manage. dib's other main function is as part of the daily CI image builds. This m