I'm making a new thread continuing from [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] BBG edit of new API proposal
I think this warrants its own thread since the discussion doesn't pertain directly to Stephen's proposal. Eugene, What I think what Stephen is trying to say is that in the previous IRC meeting it was explicitly said that the object model would follow the API decision. Meaning, an API that was decided on would then in turn have its own object model. Object model diagrams were also requested with each API proposal. This most recent meeting happened and a reversal happend. Now you're saying the current object model will just be changed somewhat and an API that is decided on will have to work with that object model. If that is the case then 1) there was some wasted work by people, 2) this same thing can and probably will happen with the API wasting even more time. Also, you made a comment basically implying that until people actually contribute code, they're opinion doesn't matter. That's a great way to alienate people and lose out on valuable insight from people who may have a lot of experience. Also, I think many of us newbies have contributed in other ways than code. Sure, there's no metric to measure these contributions but they should count for something. Anyway, that comment is probably insight into what the reason is for this new direction. In the end, if people feel like their opinion doesn't matter and anything they do is just a waste a time, most people won't even bother. I will participate in the neutron-specs blueprints. I actually do like that it is a place to actually make decisions, though it is tough to actually get anything in a good format. I'm not sure if all of this is a misunderstanding. I just think it should be known of our perception of what has taken place and what is taking place. If our perception is way off then I think the reality of the situation should be made more clear. Thanks, Brandon _______________________________________________ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev