On 10/23/2013 06:32 AM, Michael Basnight wrote:
On Oct 22, 2013, at 10:35 AM, Michael Basnight wrote:
Top posting cuz im a baller. We will get this fixed today. PS clint i like
the way you think ;)
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53176/
Now that this is merged, and there is no
On 10/22/2013 04:55 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote:
Talk to the Trove developers and politely ask them whether the copyright
notices in their code reflects what they see as the reality.
I'm sure it would help them if you pointed out to them some significant
chunks of code from the commit history
On 10/22/2013 05:06 AM, Michael Basnight wrote:
so if this is sufficient, ill fix the copyright headers.
Please do (and backport that to 2013.2...)! :)
Thomas
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On 10/22/2013 04:48 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote:
On Tue, 2013-10-22 at 01:55 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 10/21/2013 09:28 PM, Mark McLoughlin wrote:
In other words, what exactly is a list of copyright holders good for?
At least avoid pain and reject when uploading to the Debian NEW queue...
On Tue, 2013-10-22 at 14:09 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 10/22/2013 04:55 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote:
Talk to the Trove developers and politely ask them whether the copyright
notices in their code reflects what they see as the reality.
I'm sure it would help them if you pointed out to
On 10/22/2013 08:09 AM, Monty Taylor wrote:
b) Thomas should put in debian/copyright what is in our headers, and
should consider them, as they are in our source tarballs, to be correct
c) If Thomas, or anyone else, considers our header attribution to be
incorrect, he or she should submit a
On 10/22/2013 04:45 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote:
By improve clarity, you mean compile an accurate list of all
copyright holders? Why is this useful information?
Sure, we could also improve clarity by compiling a list of all the
cities in the world where some OpenStack code has been authored
On 10/22/2013 02:12 AM, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
On 2013-10-22 01:45:13 +0800 (+0800), Thomas Goirand wrote:
[...]
The main problem I was facing was that troveclient has a few files
stating that HP was the sole copyright holder, when it clearly was
not (since I have discussed a bit with some the
On Tue, 2013-10-22 at 14:19 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 10/22/2013 04:48 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote:
On Tue, 2013-10-22 at 01:55 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 10/21/2013 09:28 PM, Mark McLoughlin wrote:
In other words, what exactly is a list of copyright holders good for?
At least
On 22 October 2013 20:39, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote:
On Tue, 2013-10-22 at 14:19 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
I agree, it is painful, though it is a necessary pain. Debian has always
been strict with copyright stuff. This should be seen as a freeness Q/A,
so that we make sure
Excerpts from Monty Taylor's message of 2013-10-21 17:09:41 -0700:
On 10/21/2013 10:44 PM, Clint Byrum wrote:
Excerpts from Mark McLoughlin's message of 2013-10-21 13:45:21 -0700:
If you don't know who the copyright holders are, you cannot know that
the license being granted is
Top posting cuz im a baller. We will get this fixed today. PS clint i like the
way you think ;)
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53176/
On Oct 22, 2013, at 9:21 AM, Clint Byrum wrote:
Excerpts from Monty Taylor's message of 2013-10-21 17:09:41 -0700:
On 10/21/2013 10:44 PM, Clint Byrum
On Oct 22, 2013, at 10:35 AM, Michael Basnight wrote:
Top posting cuz im a baller. We will get this fixed today. PS clint i like
the way you think ;)
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53176/
Now that this is merged, and there is no stable/havana for clients, Ive got a
question. What do
On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 6:38 AM, Jeremy Stanley fu...@yuggoth.org wrote:
On 2013-10-20 20:57:56 +0800 (+0800), Thomas Goirand wrote:
Well, good luck finding all the copyright holders for such a large and
old project. It's not really practical in this case, unfortunately.
To a great extent,
On 10/20/2013 06:00 AM, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
I know the Foundation's got work underway to improve the affiliate
map from the member database, so it might be possible to have some
sort of automated job which proposes changes to a copyright holders
list in each project by running a query with
On 10/20/2013 09:00 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
On 2013-10-20 22:20:25 +1300 (+1300), Robert Collins wrote:
[...]
OTOH registering one's nominated copyright holder on the first
patch to a repository is probably a sustainable overhead. And it's
probably amenable to automation - a commit hook
On 10/20/2013 09:38 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
Part of the issue is that historically the project has held a
laissez faire position that claiming copyright on contributions is
voluntary, and that if you don't feel your modifications to a
particular file are worthy of copyright (due to
On 2013-10-22 01:45:13 +0800 (+0800), Thomas Goirand wrote:
[...]
The main problem I was facing was that troveclient has a few files
stating that HP was the sole copyright holder, when it clearly was
not (since I have discussed a bit with some the dev team in
Portland, IIRC some of them are
On Mon, 2013-10-21 at 10:28 -0700, Clint Byrum wrote:
Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2013-10-20 02:25:43 -0700:
On 20 October 2013 02:35, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com wrote:
However, even as a strong supporter of accurate license headers, I would
like to know more about
On Tue, 2013-10-22 at 01:55 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 10/21/2013 09:28 PM, Mark McLoughlin wrote:
In other words, what exactly is a list of copyright holders good for?
At least avoid pain and reject when uploading to the Debian NEW queue...
I'm sorry, that is downstream Debian pain.
On Oct 21, 2013, at 1:55 PM, Mark McLoughlin wrote:
On Tue, 2013-10-22 at 01:45 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 10/20/2013 09:00 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
On 2013-10-20 22:20:25 +1300 (+1300), Robert Collins wrote:
[...]
OTOH registering one's nominated copyright holder on the first
patch
On 2013-10-21 14:44:10 -0700 (-0700), Clint Byrum wrote:
[...]
I assume the other CLA's have the same basic type of license being
granted to the OpenStack Foundation.
[...]
For the record, there are only two other CLAs in place for OpenStack
source code contributions. One is the Corporate CLA
On 10/21/2013 10:44 PM, Clint Byrum wrote:
Excerpts from Mark McLoughlin's message of 2013-10-21 13:45:21 -0700:
On Mon, 2013-10-21 at 10:28 -0700, Clint Byrum wrote:
Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2013-10-20 02:25:43 -0700:
On 20 October 2013 02:35, Monty Taylor
On Oct 21, 2013, at 5:09 PM, Monty Taylor wrote:
On 10/21/2013 10:44 PM, Clint Byrum wrote:
Excerpts from Mark McLoughlin's message of 2013-10-21 13:45:21 -0700:
On Mon, 2013-10-21 at 10:28 -0700, Clint Byrum wrote:
Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2013-10-20 02:25:43 -0700:
On 20
On 10/19/2013 11:50 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
On 2013-10-19 23:29:28 +0800 (+0800), Thomas Goirand wrote:
Though the Debian FTP masters seems to insist on having correct
copyright holders in debian/copyright, and I am a bit lost after the 2
rejects I just had.
Well, this is still a fuzzy
On 20 October 2013 04:50, Jeremy Stanley fu...@yuggoth.org wrote:
Well, this is still a fuzzy topic. We have a lot of contributions
and know who the authors are, but not necessarily who the copyright
s/authors/submitters/. I've heard (though I lack direct evidence) that
some teams funnel their
On 20 October 2013 02:35, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com wrote:
However, even as a strong supporter of accurate license headers, I would
like to know more about the FTP masters issue. I dialog with them, as
folks who deal with this issue and its repercutions WAY more than any of
us might
On Oct 20, 2013 11:29 AM, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net
wrote:
On 20 October 2013 02:35, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com wrote:
However, even as a strong supporter of accurate license headers, I would
like to know more about the FTP masters issue. I dialog with them, as
folks
On 10/20/2013 05:41 PM, Joe Gordon wrote:
http://ftp-master.metadata.debian.org/changelogs//main/l/linux/linux_3.11.5-1_copyright
Not even the kernel itself has a complete list of all the copyright owners.
best,
Joe
Well, good luck finding all the copyright holders for such a large and
On 2013-10-20 20:57:56 +0800 (+0800), Thomas Goirand wrote:
Well, good luck finding all the copyright holders for such a large and
old project. It's not really practical in this case, unfortunately.
To a great extent, the same goes for projects a quarter the size and
age of the Linux
On 2013-10-20 13:00:31 + (+), Jeremy Stanley wrote:
[...]
automated job which proposes changes to a copyright holders list
in each project by running a query with the author and date of
each commit looking for new affiliations
[...]
Though the more I think about this, it would be
Hi there,
TroveClient just got rejected by Debian FTP masters. Reply from Luke
Faraone is below.
In general, I would strongly advise that a clean COPYRIGHT-HOLDER file
is created with the copyright holders in them. Why? Because it is hard
to distinguish between authors and copyright holders,
Excerpts from Thomas Goirand's message of 2013-10-18 23:01:50 -0700:
Hi there,
TroveClient just got rejected by Debian FTP masters. Reply from Luke
Faraone is below.
In general, I would strongly advise that a clean COPYRIGHT-HOLDER file
is created with the copyright holders in them.
On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote:
I suggest that we just put Copyright headers back in the source files.
That will make Debian's licensecheck work fairly automatically. A single
file that tries to do exactly what debian/copyright would do seems a bit
odd.
On 10/19/2013 04:52 AM, Clint Byrum wrote:
Excerpts from Thomas Goirand's message of 2013-10-18 23:01:50 -0700:
Hi there,
TroveClient just got rejected by Debian FTP masters. Reply from Luke
Faraone is below.
In general, I would strongly advise that a clean COPYRIGHT-HOLDER file
is
On 10/19/2013 05:49 AM, Michael Still wrote:
On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote:
I suggest that we just put Copyright headers back in the source files.
That will make Debian's licensecheck work fairly automatically. A single
file that tries to do exactly
On 10/19/2013 08:22 AM, Monty Taylor wrote:
On 10/19/2013 04:52 AM, Clint Byrum wrote:
Excerpts from Thomas Goirand's message of 2013-10-18 23:01:50 -0700:
Hi there,
TroveClient just got rejected by Debian FTP masters. Reply from Luke
Faraone is below.
In general, I would strongly advise
On 10/19/2013 08:29 AM, Sean Dague wrote:
On 10/19/2013 08:22 AM, Monty Taylor wrote:
On 10/19/2013 04:52 AM, Clint Byrum wrote:
Excerpts from Thomas Goirand's message of 2013-10-18 23:01:50 -0700:
Hi there,
TroveClient just got rejected by Debian FTP masters. Reply from Luke
Faraone
On 10/19/2013 08:24 PM, Monty Taylor wrote:
On 10/19/2013 05:49 AM, Michael Still wrote:
On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote:
I suggest that we just put Copyright headers back in the source files.
That will make Debian's licensecheck work fairly
On 2013-10-19 23:29:28 +0800 (+0800), Thomas Goirand wrote:
Though the Debian FTP masters seems to insist on having correct
copyright holders in debian/copyright, and I am a bit lost after the 2
rejects I just had.
Well, this is still a fuzzy topic. We have a lot of contributions
and know who
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