Re: [openstack-dev] Debian already using Python 3.5: please gate on that
Hi, Le 18/06/2015 15:44, Thomas Goirand a écrit : As per the subject line, we already have Python 3.5 in Debian (AFAICT, from Debian Experimental, in version beta 2). As a consequence, we're already running (unit) tests using Python 3.5. Some have failures: I could see issues in ceilometerclient, keystoneclient, glanceclient and more (yes, I am planning to report these issues, and we already started doing so). Can you please share the list of issues? I may take a look. Python 3.5 is not supposed to break backward compatibility. Sorry, I don't remember which one, but I remember that a project is running tests using the default (development) branch of CPython, and it already helped us (CPython) to fix issues before the final release. I don't think that OpenStack has resources (CPU and manpower) to run OpenStack tests on top of CPython default, nor on a beta version. But as I wrote, I'm interested to take a look at issues with Python 3.5 ;-) Victor __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Debian already using Python 3.5: please gate on that
Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2015-06-20 16:22:51 +1200: On 19 June 2015 at 02:18, Ian Cordasco ian.corda...@rackspace.com wrote: On 6/18/15, 08:44, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: Does this mean that Debian is going to ignore classifiers for all projects that list 3.4 without listing 3.5 and will start reporting bugs against them before upstream projects have time to start testing against 3.5? Why is Debian running tests against versions of python that upstream doesn't claim to support? I think this is taking a rather extreme interpretation of Thomas' email. Here's what I read: - Debian 9.0 is hoping to be 3.5 not 3.4 - The experimental staging area in Debian has 3.5 already and is starting to find out what packages are going to have issues - Some of OpenStack does. - Please introduce 3.5 as a supported Python as soon as we can. Which is I think a reasonable request. +1 Whether we want to support 3.4 and 3.5, or just 3.4 and then just 3.5 is an ecosystem question IMO, not an upstream one. 3.4 and 3.5 are very similar when you consider the feature set crossover with 2.7. Right, and IIRC that's why we said at the summit that we would rather not take the resources (in terms of people and CI servers) to run tests against both, yet. Let's get one project fully working on one version of python 3, and then we can start thinking about whether we need to test multiple versions. OTOH, if Canonical doesn't release a version of 3.4 that removes the core dump bug soon, I will support moving fully to 3.5 or another test platform, because that bug is causing us trouble in Oslo still. Doug __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Debian already using Python 3.5: please gate on that
Excerpts from Dave Walker's message of 2015-06-20 14:05:48 +0100: On 20 Jun 2015 1:05 pm, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: SNIP Whether we want to support 3.4 and 3.5, or just 3.4 and then just 3.5 is an ecosystem question IMO, not an upstream one. 3.4 and 3.5 are very similar when you consider the feature set crossover with 2.7. Right, and IIRC that's why we said at the summit that we would rather not take the resources (in terms of people and CI servers) to run tests against both, yet. Let's get one project fully working on one version of python 3, and then we can start thinking about whether we need to test multiple versions. Having information available, even if there is not immediate intent to support seems like something we should constantly be driving for. It should certainly be non-voting, but if resources are limited - perhaps a periodic job, rather that gate? OTOH, if Canonical doesn't release a version of 3.4 that removes the core dump bug soon, I will support moving fully to 3.5 or another test platform, because that bug is causing us trouble in Oslo still. s/Canonical/ubuntu Can you link to the bug? I did a quick search, but couldn't find it quickly. Hmm, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python3.4/+bug/1367907 is marked as released but somehow it's still being triggered for oslo.messaging. Doug __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Debian already using Python 3.5: please gate on that
On 20 Jun 2015 1:05 pm, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: SNIP Whether we want to support 3.4 and 3.5, or just 3.4 and then just 3.5 is an ecosystem question IMO, not an upstream one. 3.4 and 3.5 are very similar when you consider the feature set crossover with 2.7. Right, and IIRC that's why we said at the summit that we would rather not take the resources (in terms of people and CI servers) to run tests against both, yet. Let's get one project fully working on one version of python 3, and then we can start thinking about whether we need to test multiple versions. Having information available, even if there is not immediate intent to support seems like something we should constantly be driving for. It should certainly be non-voting, but if resources are limited - perhaps a periodic job, rather that gate? OTOH, if Canonical doesn't release a version of 3.4 that removes the core dump bug soon, I will support moving fully to 3.5 or another test platform, because that bug is causing us trouble in Oslo still. s/Canonical/ubuntu Can you link to the bug? I did a quick search, but couldn't find it quickly. -- Kind Regards, Dave Walker __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Debian already using Python 3.5: please gate on that
On 21/06/15 01:32, Doug Hellmann wrote: Excerpts from Dave Walker's message of 2015-06-20 14:05:48 +0100: On 20 Jun 2015 1:05 pm, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: SNIP Whether we want to support 3.4 and 3.5, or just 3.4 and then just 3.5 is an ecosystem question IMO, not an upstream one. 3.4 and 3.5 are very similar when you consider the feature set crossover with 2.7. Right, and IIRC that's why we said at the summit that we would rather not take the resources (in terms of people and CI servers) to run tests against both, yet. Let's get one project fully working on one version of python 3, and then we can start thinking about whether we need to test multiple versions. Having information available, even if there is not immediate intent to support seems like something we should constantly be driving for. It should certainly be non-voting, but if resources are limited - perhaps a periodic job, rather that gate? OTOH, if Canonical doesn't release a version of 3.4 that removes the core dump bug soon, I will support moving fully to 3.5 or another test platform, because that bug is causing us trouble in Oslo still. s/Canonical/ubuntu Can you link to the bug? I did a quick search, but couldn't find it quickly. Hmm, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python3.4/+bug/1367907 is marked as released but somehow it's still being triggered for oslo.messaging. FWIW http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=python3.4 suggests that Trusty is still using python 3.4.0, and you don't get 3.4.3 until Vivid, which is a bit sad - definitely worth quizzing the Ubuntu folks about what the plan is there. Regards Mark __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Debian already using Python 3.5: please gate on that
On 19 June 2015 at 02:18, Ian Cordasco ian.corda...@rackspace.com wrote: On 6/18/15, 08:44, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: Does this mean that Debian is going to ignore classifiers for all projects that list 3.4 without listing 3.5 and will start reporting bugs against them before upstream projects have time to start testing against 3.5? Why is Debian running tests against versions of python that upstream doesn't claim to support? I think this is taking a rather extreme interpretation of Thomas' email. Here's what I read: - Debian 9.0 is hoping to be 3.5 not 3.4 - The experimental staging area in Debian has 3.5 already and is starting to find out what packages are going to have issues - Some of OpenStack does. - Please introduce 3.5 as a supported Python as soon as we can. Which is I think a reasonable request. Whether we want to support 3.4 and 3.5, or just 3.4 and then just 3.5 is an ecosystem question IMO, not an upstream one. 3.4 and 3.5 are very similar when you consider the feature set crossover with 2.7. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Debian already using Python 3.5: please gate on that
On Jun 19, 2015 1:19 PM, Ihar Hrachyshka ihrac...@redhat.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 06/18/2015 09:48 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: Excerpts from Brian Curtin's message of 2015-06-18 13:17:52 -0500: On Thursday, June 18, 2015, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: Excerpts from Thomas Goirand's message of 2015-06-18 15:44:17 +0200: Hi! tl;dr: skip this message, the subject line is enough! :) As per the subject line, we already have Python 3.5 in Debian (AFAICT, from Debian Experimental, in version beta 2). As a consequence, we're already running (unit) tests using Python 3.5. Some have failures: I could see issues in ceilometerclient, keystoneclient, glanceclient and more (yes, I am planning to report these issues, and we already started doing so). As Python 3.4 is still the default interpreter for /usr/bin/python3, that's currently fine, but it soon wont be. All this to say: if you are currently gating on Python 3, please start slowly adding support for 3.5, as we're planning to switch to that for Debian 9 (aka Stretch). I believe Ubuntu will follow (as the Python core packages are imported from Debian). 3.5 is still in beta. What's the schedule for an official release from the python-dev team? 3.4 Final is planed for September 13 https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0478/ Based on that, I am confident in sticking with our plan of gating using 3.4 for now and keeping an eye on the 3.5 packages being built by Debian and Canonical. +1. Putting burden on projects to adopt to beta releases of python is unreasonable. Agreed. I also found the tone of the original email misleading. Ihar -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJVg/nYAAoJEC5aWaUY1u579GoIANYISvCNK/ltfN8rS7W2pkGd k+xPNYFE1aaGIE8wTakrm0dHG3oSFpVVs5FGtiJwvgFz4RyOBPUhiv6prxp7BBvT SqBvaoKdWsptC2BLrNrSRM62b0TTl+n5anpwPzzdiZcPBHfdaIWjrJnSpm4KMA57 HSZfUvBn1Ge8LL9BzZLOTlOdyQ0jDrh2nI8s27JEk/4yJ+tx2gjxZjQ0N2Xs8TGN WJB+qXBGmttAwwf264b9YeNSZIktAwXbLphG2LKaJHOUuP+YwA1wRdfn5MfxOmTs lc2dln7obATwIRZopdDUOIr6ch9KpQUm/Bs29Sdjcg7Vx1RZl2U0o9inscpoHig= =6C1i -END PGP SIGNATURE- __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Debian already using Python 3.5: please gate on that
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 18/06/15 21:44, Jeremy Stanley wrote: Based on that, I am confident in sticking with our plan of gating using 3.4 for now and keeping an eye on the 3.5 packages being built by Debian and Canonical. Unless we shift platforms and go back to special-casing Py3K jobs, I expect to see us testing the N release cycle on Python 3.5 in Ubuntu 16.04 LTS but probably not prior unless someone steps up to make it happen differently. That sounds reasonable to me; I spoke with the Python maintainers in our Foundations teams (one of whom also maintains Python in Debian) and the expectation is that they will start doing working this cycle (15.10) but I think its realistic that 16.04 would be the target for a default python 3 switch. As Thomas points out, we have 3.5 in Debian experimental and Ubuntu Wily; at some point in time, Debian/Ubuntu will start doing rebuild testing with these newer versions - we'll feed any bugs/fixes back upstream so hopefully when we get to the 16.04/3.5 testing enablement, it will all *just work*. - -- James Page Ubuntu and Debian Developer james.p...@ubuntu.com jamesp...@debian.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJVhBq5AAoJEL/srsug59jDnQ8P/RMbWz2goTHrWZA/+yzpwtPG GucjSbG8YIPfJFWiAnyOaW3eh+XMrisFvS2QFn+7VBPhrJYZiiTBXAU8rAGZ7sgS q2EGmgzkFXLt/Zsw6ej/3E7cZFTqDOB8mT/9cqvxjsLSZ9ulaOEh02BUJJz+Idez FwEUY9Y0mYmzMLgGQpvDGGox9JlnwzhS4EbSKIafE4+8fzscnyWbVYvnpCXm4Rkb jVupr4isdvdOK/oKog/1CgnjU1WFkBIJxMSl2X7aoSt9gAp4u+6sAVdON50hL6JQ /TEbJIHahtSskmvzw0HMhdYr3XrkVf92RvqGXsbH2Ce/UoMCocqxqedQ8sp0R98u inICxqCoEdjQYMFUJ8QsaYQXaMuQNkKdKYzTPInNCFKxsIqyuDSzJAEe/EyfgRuD Yyt76eEbRoFBtVGCcMbEGby/AAbkMWdRx7hmFpHDLh7VKbTTDwtB83+3qppx5Mia Tz1MTxtd9ggAf/PDRJmbr3y51FXbx4J8e4DNJXI3DNG7Lqakmhx7c8lf7n2tyfBb EBckPcGGEGc5cisVLBdrmVlREVNVM2gTb9Z5Is/Lqgm0n336/fTOmFcduA/litBK EbyYERjhCPuCHPCEF/jYVCzTREJM/S/2Vm5hraVjDaMYqu6O9gysze2pkTuP4L51 Ew8I7sRfTKrLdZFzeU/x =8N/+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Debian already using Python 3.5: please gate on that
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 06/18/2015 09:48 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: Excerpts from Brian Curtin's message of 2015-06-18 13:17:52 -0500: On Thursday, June 18, 2015, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: Excerpts from Thomas Goirand's message of 2015-06-18 15:44:17 +0200: Hi! tl;dr: skip this message, the subject line is enough! :) As per the subject line, we already have Python 3.5 in Debian (AFAICT, from Debian Experimental, in version beta 2). As a consequence, we're already running (unit) tests using Python 3.5. Some have failures: I could see issues in ceilometerclient, keystoneclient, glanceclient and more (yes, I am planning to report these issues, and we already started doing so). As Python 3.4 is still the default interpreter for /usr/bin/python3, that's currently fine, but it soon wont be. All this to say: if you are currently gating on Python 3, please start slowly adding support for 3.5, as we're planning to switch to that for Debian 9 (aka Stretch). I believe Ubuntu will follow (as the Python core packages are imported from Debian). 3.5 is still in beta. What's the schedule for an official release from the python-dev team? 3.4 Final is planed for September 13 https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0478/ Based on that, I am confident in sticking with our plan of gating using 3.4 for now and keeping an eye on the 3.5 packages being built by Debian and Canonical. +1. Putting burden on projects to adopt to beta releases of python is unreasonable. Ihar -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJVg/nYAAoJEC5aWaUY1u579GoIANYISvCNK/ltfN8rS7W2pkGd k+xPNYFE1aaGIE8wTakrm0dHG3oSFpVVs5FGtiJwvgFz4RyOBPUhiv6prxp7BBvT SqBvaoKdWsptC2BLrNrSRM62b0TTl+n5anpwPzzdiZcPBHfdaIWjrJnSpm4KMA57 HSZfUvBn1Ge8LL9BzZLOTlOdyQ0jDrh2nI8s27JEk/4yJ+tx2gjxZjQ0N2Xs8TGN WJB+qXBGmttAwwf264b9YeNSZIktAwXbLphG2LKaJHOUuP+YwA1wRdfn5MfxOmTs lc2dln7obATwIRZopdDUOIr6ch9KpQUm/Bs29Sdjcg7Vx1RZl2U0o9inscpoHig= =6C1i -END PGP SIGNATURE- __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
[openstack-dev] Debian already using Python 3.5: please gate on that
Hi! tl;dr: skip this message, the subject line is enough! :) As per the subject line, we already have Python 3.5 in Debian (AFAICT, from Debian Experimental, in version beta 2). As a consequence, we're already running (unit) tests using Python 3.5. Some have failures: I could see issues in ceilometerclient, keystoneclient, glanceclient and more (yes, I am planning to report these issues, and we already started doing so). As Python 3.4 is still the default interpreter for /usr/bin/python3, that's currently fine, but it soon wont be. All this to say: if you are currently gating on Python 3, please start slowly adding support for 3.5, as we're planning to switch to that for Debian 9 (aka Stretch). I believe Ubuntu will follow (as the Python core packages are imported from Debian). Cheers, Thomas Goirand (zigo) __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Debian already using Python 3.5: please gate on that
On 6/18/15, 08:44, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: Hi! tl;dr: skip this message, the subject line is enough! :) As per the subject line, we already have Python 3.5 in Debian (AFAICT, from Debian Experimental, in version beta 2). As a consequence, we're already running (unit) tests using Python 3.5. Some have failures: I could see issues in ceilometerclient, keystoneclient, glanceclient and more (yes, I am planning to report these issues, and we already started doing so). As Python 3.4 is still the default interpreter for /usr/bin/python3, that's currently fine, but it soon wont be. All this to say: if you are currently gating on Python 3, please start slowly adding support for 3.5, as we're planning to switch to that for Debian 9 (aka Stretch). I believe Ubuntu will follow (as the Python core packages are imported from Debian). Cheers, Thomas Goirand (zigo) Does this mean that Debian is going to ignore classifiers for all projects that list 3.4 without listing 3.5 and will start reporting bugs against them before upstream projects have time to start testing against 3.5? Why is Debian running tests against versions of python that upstream doesn't claim to support? __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Debian already using Python 3.5: please gate on that
Excerpts from Thomas Goirand's message of 2015-06-18 15:44:17 +0200: Hi! tl;dr: skip this message, the subject line is enough! :) As per the subject line, we already have Python 3.5 in Debian (AFAICT, from Debian Experimental, in version beta 2). As a consequence, we're already running (unit) tests using Python 3.5. Some have failures: I could see issues in ceilometerclient, keystoneclient, glanceclient and more (yes, I am planning to report these issues, and we already started doing so). As Python 3.4 is still the default interpreter for /usr/bin/python3, that's currently fine, but it soon wont be. All this to say: if you are currently gating on Python 3, please start slowly adding support for 3.5, as we're planning to switch to that for Debian 9 (aka Stretch). I believe Ubuntu will follow (as the Python core packages are imported from Debian). 3.5 is still in beta. What's the schedule for an official release from the python-dev team? Doug __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Debian already using Python 3.5: please gate on that
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Brian Curtin br...@python.org wrote: On Thursday, June 18, 2015, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: Excerpts from Thomas Goirand's message of 2015-06-18 15:44:17 +0200: Hi! tl;dr: skip this message, the subject line is enough! :) As per the subject line, we already have Python 3.5 in Debian (AFAICT, from Debian Experimental, in version beta 2). As a consequence, we're already running (unit) tests using Python 3.5. Some have failures: I could see issues in ceilometerclient, keystoneclient, glanceclient and more (yes, I am planning to report these issues, and we already started doing so). As Python 3.4 is still the default interpreter for /usr/bin/python3, that's currently fine, but it soon wont be. All this to say: if you are currently gating on Python 3, please start slowly adding support for 3.5, as we're planning to switch to that for Debian 9 (aka Stretch). I believe Ubuntu will follow (as the Python core packages are imported from Debian). 3.5 is still in beta. What's the schedule for an official release from the python-dev team? 3.4 Final is planed for September 13 small type here - 3.5 as per the link you provided :) https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0478/ __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Debian already using Python 3.5: please gate on that
On Thursday, June 18, 2015, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: Excerpts from Thomas Goirand's message of 2015-06-18 15:44:17 +0200: Hi! tl;dr: skip this message, the subject line is enough! :) As per the subject line, we already have Python 3.5 in Debian (AFAICT, from Debian Experimental, in version beta 2). As a consequence, we're already running (unit) tests using Python 3.5. Some have failures: I could see issues in ceilometerclient, keystoneclient, glanceclient and more (yes, I am planning to report these issues, and we already started doing so). As Python 3.4 is still the default interpreter for /usr/bin/python3, that's currently fine, but it soon wont be. All this to say: if you are currently gating on Python 3, please start slowly adding support for 3.5, as we're planning to switch to that for Debian 9 (aka Stretch). I believe Ubuntu will follow (as the Python core packages are imported from Debian). 3.5 is still in beta. What's the schedule for an official release from the python-dev team? 3.4 Final is planed for September 13 https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0478/ __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Debian already using Python 3.5: please gate on that
On 2015-06-18 15:48:28 -0400 (-0400), Doug Hellmann wrote: Based on that, I am confident in sticking with our plan of gating using 3.4 for now and keeping an eye on the 3.5 packages being built by Debian and Canonical. Unless we shift platforms and go back to special-casing Py3K jobs, I expect to see us testing the N release cycle on Python 3.5 in Ubuntu 16.04 LTS but probably not prior unless someone steps up to make it happen differently. -- Jeremy Stanley __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Debian already using Python 3.5: please gate on that
Excerpts from Brian Curtin's message of 2015-06-18 13:17:52 -0500: On Thursday, June 18, 2015, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: Excerpts from Thomas Goirand's message of 2015-06-18 15:44:17 +0200: Hi! tl;dr: skip this message, the subject line is enough! :) As per the subject line, we already have Python 3.5 in Debian (AFAICT, from Debian Experimental, in version beta 2). As a consequence, we're already running (unit) tests using Python 3.5. Some have failures: I could see issues in ceilometerclient, keystoneclient, glanceclient and more (yes, I am planning to report these issues, and we already started doing so). As Python 3.4 is still the default interpreter for /usr/bin/python3, that's currently fine, but it soon wont be. All this to say: if you are currently gating on Python 3, please start slowly adding support for 3.5, as we're planning to switch to that for Debian 9 (aka Stretch). I believe Ubuntu will follow (as the Python core packages are imported from Debian). 3.5 is still in beta. What's the schedule for an official release from the python-dev team? 3.4 Final is planed for September 13 https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0478/ Based on that, I am confident in sticking with our plan of gating using 3.4 for now and keeping an eye on the 3.5 packages being built by Debian and Canonical. Doug __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
