Re: [openstack-dev] Gamification and on-boarding ...

2014-02-14 Thread Joshua Harlow
+1 Mentoring and devoted mentors and not demotivating new folks (but instead growing and fostering them) is IMHO 10x more important than a badge program. Badges seem nice and all but I think it's not the biggest win for the buck. Sent from my really tiny device... On Feb 13, 2014, at 6:06

Re: [openstack-dev] Gamification and on-boarding ...

2014-02-14 Thread Russell Bryant
On 02/13/2014 08:53 AM, Sean Dague wrote: The delays on reviews for relatively trivial fixes I think is something that is probably more demotivating to new folks than the lack of badges. So some ability to keep on top of that I think would be really great. Sure, I agree. I still think badges

Re: [openstack-dev] Gamification and on-boarding ...

2014-02-14 Thread Ben Nemec
On 2014-02-14 13:48, Russell Bryant wrote: On 02/13/2014 08:53 AM, Sean Dague wrote: The delays on reviews for relatively trivial fixes I think is something that is probably more demotivating to new folks than the lack of badges. So some ability to keep on top of that I think would be really

Re: [openstack-dev] Gamification and on-boarding ...

2014-02-13 Thread Thierry Carrez
Sandy Walsh wrote: The informal OpenStack motto is automate everything, so perhaps we should consider some form of gamification [1] to help us? Can we offer badges, quests and challenges to new users to lead them on the way to being strong contributors? Fixed your first bug badge

Re: [openstack-dev] Gamification and on-boarding ...

2014-02-13 Thread Sean Dague
On 02/13/2014 05:37 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Sandy Walsh wrote: The informal OpenStack motto is automate everything, so perhaps we should consider some form of gamification [1] to help us? Can we offer badges, quests and challenges to new users to lead them on the way to being strong

Re: [openstack-dev] Gamification and on-boarding ...

2014-02-13 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
+1, nice idea, it could be really funny. agreed with Thierry's note about automation. On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 02/13/2014 05:37 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Sandy Walsh wrote: The informal OpenStack motto is automate everything, so perhaps we

Re: [openstack-dev] Gamification and on-boarding ...

2014-02-13 Thread Robert Collins
On 14 February 2014 02:53, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: So it seems like the only way we'd make real progress here is to get a chunk of people to devote some dedicated time to mentoring in the next cycle. Gamification might be most useful, but honestly I expect a Start Here page with the

Re: [openstack-dev] Gamification and on-boarding ...

2014-02-13 Thread Anne Gentle
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 02/13/2014 05:37 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Sandy Walsh wrote: The informal OpenStack motto is automate everything, so perhaps we should consider some form of gamification [1] to help us? Can we offer badges, quests and

Re: [openstack-dev] Gamification and on-boarding ...

2014-02-13 Thread Mike Spreitzer
From: Sean Dague s...@dague.net ... Realistically, the biggest issue I see with on-boarding is mentoring time. Especially with folks completely new to our structure, there is a lot of confusing things going on. And OpenStack is a ton to absorb. I get pinged a lot on IRC, answer when I can,

[openstack-dev] Gamification and on-boarding ...

2014-02-12 Thread Sandy Walsh
At the Nova mid-cycle meetup we've been talking about the problem of helping new contributors. It got into a discussion of karma, code reviews, bug fixes and establishing a name for yourself before screaming in a chat room can someone look at my branch. We want this experience to be positive,

Re: [openstack-dev] Gamification and on-boarding ...

2014-02-12 Thread Sanchez, Cristian A
I¹m kind of new in Openstack. +1 to this On 12/02/14 15:00, Sandy Walsh sandy.wa...@rackspace.com wrote: At the Nova mid-cycle meetup we've been talking about the problem of helping new contributors. It got into a discussion of karma, code reviews, bug fixes and establishing a name for

Re: [openstack-dev] Gamification and on-boarding ...

2014-02-12 Thread Ben Nemec
On 2014-02-12 12:00, Sandy Walsh wrote: At the Nova mid-cycle meetup we've been talking about the problem of helping new contributors. It got into a discussion of karma, code reviews, bug fixes and establishing a name for yourself before screaming in a chat room can someone look at my branch. We

Re: [openstack-dev] Gamification and on-boarding ...

2014-02-12 Thread Russell Bryant
On 02/12/2014 11:35 AM, Ben Nemec wrote: On 2014-02-12 12:00, Sandy Walsh wrote: At the Nova mid-cycle meetup we've been talking about the problem of helping new contributors. It got into a discussion of karma, code reviews, bug fixes and establishing a name for yourself before screaming in a

Re: [openstack-dev] Gamification and on-boarding ...

2014-02-12 Thread wu jiang
+1. This looks very interesting. :) On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 02/12/2014 11:35 AM, Ben Nemec wrote: On 2014-02-12 12:00, Sandy Walsh wrote: At the Nova mid-cycle meetup we've been talking about the problem of helping new contributors.

Re: [openstack-dev] Gamification and on-boarding ...

2014-02-12 Thread Rohit Vaidya
I am new to open stack and python. But I really liked the live community here and great suggestions that crop up. This one is seriously good and helps new people stay motivated. I installed dev stack on my sluggish laptop and that's all. Could not move any further. Looking forward to taking the