Re: [openstack-dev] Horizon and Tuskar-UI codebase merge
and +1 also from me :-) Seems like this the way we want to go. So, what will be the next steps? Seems like this have to be done by cooperation of PTL's of Horizon and TripleO and ttx probably? Thank you, Ladislav On 12/19/2013 05:29 PM, Lyle, David wrote: So after a lot of consideration, my opinion is the two code bases should stay in separate repos under the Horizon Program, for a few reasons: -Adding a large chunk of code for an incubated project is likely going to cause the Horizon delivery some grief due to dependencies and packaging issues at the distro level. -The code in Tuskar-UI is currently in a large state of flux/rework. The Tuskar-UI code needs to be able to move quickly and at times drastically, this could be detrimental to the stability of Horizon. And conversely, the stability needs of Horizon and be detrimental to the speed at which Tuskar-UI can change. -Horizon Core can review changes in the Tuskar-UI code base and provide feedback without the code needing to be integrated in Horizon proper. Obviously, with an eye to the code bases merging in the long run. As far as core group organization, I think the current Tuskar-UI core should maintain their +2 for only Tuskar-UI. Individuals who make significant review contributions to Horizon will certainly be considered for Horizon core in time. I agree with Gabriel's suggestion of adding Horizon Core to tuskar-UI core. The idea being that Horizon core is looking for compatibility with Horizon initially and working toward a deeper understanding of the Tuskar-UI code base. This will help insure the integration process goes as smoothly as possible when Tuskar/TripleO comes out of incubation. I look forward to being able to merge the two code bases, but I don't think the time is right yet and Horizon should stick to only integrating code into OpenStack Dashboard that is out of incubation. We've made exceptions in the past, and they tend to have unfortunate consequences. -David -Original Message- From: Jiri Tomasek [mailto:jtoma...@redhat.com] Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 4:40 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Horizon and Tuskar-UI codebase merge On 12/19/2013 08:58 AM, Matthias Runge wrote: On 12/18/2013 10:33 PM, Gabriel Hurley wrote: Adding developers to Horizon Core just for the purpose of reviewing an incubated umbrella project is not the right way to do things at all. If my proposal of two separate groups having the +2 power in Gerrit isn't technically feasible then a new group should be created for management of umbrella projects. Yes, I totally agree. Having two separate projects with separate cores should be possible under the umbrella of a program. Tuskar differs somewhat from other projects to be included in horizon, because other projects contributed a view on their specific feature. Tuskar provides an additional dashboard and is talking with several apis below. It's a something like a separate dashboard to be merged here. When having both under the horizon program umbrella, my concern is, that both projects wouldn't be coupled so tight, as I would like it. Esp. I'd love to see an automatic merge of horizon commits to a (combined) tuskar and horizon repository, thus making sure, tuskar will work in a fresh (updated) horizon environment. Please correct me if I am wrong, but I think this is not an issue. Currently Tuskar-UI is run from Horizon fork. In local Horizon fork we create symlink to tuskar-ui local clone and to run Horizon with Tuskar-UI we simply start Horizon server. This means that Tuskar-UI runs on latest version of Horizon. (If you pull regularly of course). Matthias ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev Jirka ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Horizon and Tuskar-UI codebase merge
On 12/18/2013 10:33 PM, Gabriel Hurley wrote: Adding developers to Horizon Core just for the purpose of reviewing an incubated umbrella project is not the right way to do things at all. If my proposal of two separate groups having the +2 power in Gerrit isn't technically feasible then a new group should be created for management of umbrella projects. Yes, I totally agree. Having two separate projects with separate cores should be possible under the umbrella of a program. Tuskar differs somewhat from other projects to be included in horizon, because other projects contributed a view on their specific feature. Tuskar provides an additional dashboard and is talking with several apis below. It's a something like a separate dashboard to be merged here. When having both under the horizon program umbrella, my concern is, that both projects wouldn't be coupled so tight, as I would like it. Esp. I'd love to see an automatic merge of horizon commits to a (combined) tuskar and horizon repository, thus making sure, tuskar will work in a fresh (updated) horizon environment. Matthias ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Horizon and Tuskar-UI codebase merge
On 12/19/2013 08:58 AM, Matthias Runge wrote: On 12/18/2013 10:33 PM, Gabriel Hurley wrote: Adding developers to Horizon Core just for the purpose of reviewing an incubated umbrella project is not the right way to do things at all. If my proposal of two separate groups having the +2 power in Gerrit isn't technically feasible then a new group should be created for management of umbrella projects. Yes, I totally agree. Having two separate projects with separate cores should be possible under the umbrella of a program. Tuskar differs somewhat from other projects to be included in horizon, because other projects contributed a view on their specific feature. Tuskar provides an additional dashboard and is talking with several apis below. It's a something like a separate dashboard to be merged here. When having both under the horizon program umbrella, my concern is, that both projects wouldn't be coupled so tight, as I would like it. Esp. I'd love to see an automatic merge of horizon commits to a (combined) tuskar and horizon repository, thus making sure, tuskar will work in a fresh (updated) horizon environment. Please correct me if I am wrong, but I think this is not an issue. Currently Tuskar-UI is run from Horizon fork. In local Horizon fork we create symlink to tuskar-ui local clone and to run Horizon with Tuskar-UI we simply start Horizon server. This means that Tuskar-UI runs on latest version of Horizon. (If you pull regularly of course). Matthias ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev Jirka ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Horizon and Tuskar-UI codebase merge
So basically this is our first proposal what we send out: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-December/022196.html After Horizon meetings, several e-mails and also couple of other discussions of people who are for/against codebase merge, it looks that in the end upstream leans towards 'umbrella' solution. After all, +1 for umbrella solution from my side too. Tuskar UI will get closer to the nature of the project (based on Horizon, UI related audience). And in the same time, we will not rush things up before the project graduates. In Icehouse we can easier reach goals of both - Horizon as well as Tuskar UI - and after Icehouse release we can review back and get to the codebase merge in the end. Do you all agree? -- Jarda On 2013/18/12 22:33, Gabriel Hurley wrote: From my experience, directly adding incubated projects to the main Horizon codebase prior to graduation has been fraught with peril. That said, the closer they can be together prior to the graduation merge, the better. I like the idea of these types of projects being under the OpenStack Dashboard Program umbrella. Ideally I think it would be a jointly-managed resource in Gerrit. The Horizon Core folks would have +2 power, but the Tuskar core folks would also have +2 power. (I'm 90% certain that can be done in the Gerrit admin...) That way development speed isn't bottlenecked by Horizon Core, but there's a closer tie-in with the people who may ultimately be maintaining it. It becomes easier to keep track of, and can be more easily guided in the right directions. With a little work incubated dashboard components like this could even be made to be a non-gating part of the testing infrastructure to indicate when things change or break. Adding developers to Horizon Core just for the purpose of reviewing an incubated umbrella project is not the right way to do things at all. If my proposal of two separate groups having the +2 power in Gerrit isn't technically feasible then a new group should be created for management of umbrella projects. All the best, - Gabriel ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Horizon and Tuskar-UI codebase merge
So after a lot of consideration, my opinion is the two code bases should stay in separate repos under the Horizon Program, for a few reasons: -Adding a large chunk of code for an incubated project is likely going to cause the Horizon delivery some grief due to dependencies and packaging issues at the distro level. -The code in Tuskar-UI is currently in a large state of flux/rework. The Tuskar-UI code needs to be able to move quickly and at times drastically, this could be detrimental to the stability of Horizon. And conversely, the stability needs of Horizon and be detrimental to the speed at which Tuskar-UI can change. -Horizon Core can review changes in the Tuskar-UI code base and provide feedback without the code needing to be integrated in Horizon proper. Obviously, with an eye to the code bases merging in the long run. As far as core group organization, I think the current Tuskar-UI core should maintain their +2 for only Tuskar-UI. Individuals who make significant review contributions to Horizon will certainly be considered for Horizon core in time. I agree with Gabriel's suggestion of adding Horizon Core to tuskar-UI core. The idea being that Horizon core is looking for compatibility with Horizon initially and working toward a deeper understanding of the Tuskar-UI code base. This will help insure the integration process goes as smoothly as possible when Tuskar/TripleO comes out of incubation. I look forward to being able to merge the two code bases, but I don't think the time is right yet and Horizon should stick to only integrating code into OpenStack Dashboard that is out of incubation. We've made exceptions in the past, and they tend to have unfortunate consequences. -David -Original Message- From: Jiri Tomasek [mailto:jtoma...@redhat.com] Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 4:40 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Horizon and Tuskar-UI codebase merge On 12/19/2013 08:58 AM, Matthias Runge wrote: On 12/18/2013 10:33 PM, Gabriel Hurley wrote: Adding developers to Horizon Core just for the purpose of reviewing an incubated umbrella project is not the right way to do things at all. If my proposal of two separate groups having the +2 power in Gerrit isn't technically feasible then a new group should be created for management of umbrella projects. Yes, I totally agree. Having two separate projects with separate cores should be possible under the umbrella of a program. Tuskar differs somewhat from other projects to be included in horizon, because other projects contributed a view on their specific feature. Tuskar provides an additional dashboard and is talking with several apis below. It's a something like a separate dashboard to be merged here. When having both under the horizon program umbrella, my concern is, that both projects wouldn't be coupled so tight, as I would like it. Esp. I'd love to see an automatic merge of horizon commits to a (combined) tuskar and horizon repository, thus making sure, tuskar will work in a fresh (updated) horizon environment. Please correct me if I am wrong, but I think this is not an issue. Currently Tuskar-UI is run from Horizon fork. In local Horizon fork we create symlink to tuskar-ui local clone and to run Horizon with Tuskar-UI we simply start Horizon server. This means that Tuskar-UI runs on latest version of Horizon. (If you pull regularly of course). Matthias ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev Jirka ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Horizon and Tuskar-UI codebase merge
- Original Message - So basically this is our first proposal what we send out: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-December/022196.html After Horizon meetings, several e-mails and also couple of other discussions of people who are for/against codebase merge, it looks that in the end upstream leans towards 'umbrella' solution. After all, +1 for umbrella solution from my side too. Tuskar UI will get closer to the nature of the project (based on Horizon, UI related audience). And in the same time, we will not rush things up before the project graduates. In Icehouse we can easier reach goals of both - Horizon as well as Tuskar UI - and after Icehouse release we can review back and get to the codebase merge in the end. Do you all agree? -- Jarda +1, I think this is the most sensible approach. On 2013/18/12 22:33, Gabriel Hurley wrote: From my experience, directly adding incubated projects to the main Horizon codebase prior to graduation has been fraught with peril. That said, the closer they can be together prior to the graduation merge, the better. I like the idea of these types of projects being under the OpenStack Dashboard Program umbrella. Ideally I think it would be a jointly-managed resource in Gerrit. The Horizon Core folks would have +2 power, but the Tuskar core folks would also have +2 power. (I'm 90% certain that can be done in the Gerrit admin...) That way development speed isn't bottlenecked by Horizon Core, but there's a closer tie-in with the people who may ultimately be maintaining it. It becomes easier to keep track of, and can be more easily guided in the right directions. With a little work incubated dashboard components like this could even be made to be a non-gating part of the testing infrastructure to indicate when things change or break. Adding developers to Horizon Core just for the purpose of reviewing an incubated umbrella project is not the right way to do things at all. If my proposal of two separate groups having the +2 power in Gerrit isn't technically feasible then a new group should be created for management of umbrella projects. All the best, - Gabriel ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- Jordan O'Mara jomara at redhat.com Red Hat Engineering, Raleigh ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Horizon and Tuskar-UI codebase merge
+1 to this! - Original Message - So after a lot of consideration, my opinion is the two code bases should stay in separate repos under the Horizon Program, for a few reasons: -Adding a large chunk of code for an incubated project is likely going to cause the Horizon delivery some grief due to dependencies and packaging issues at the distro level. -The code in Tuskar-UI is currently in a large state of flux/rework. The Tuskar-UI code needs to be able to move quickly and at times drastically, this could be detrimental to the stability of Horizon. And conversely, the stability needs of Horizon and be detrimental to the speed at which Tuskar-UI can change. -Horizon Core can review changes in the Tuskar-UI code base and provide feedback without the code needing to be integrated in Horizon proper. Obviously, with an eye to the code bases merging in the long run. As far as core group organization, I think the current Tuskar-UI core should maintain their +2 for only Tuskar-UI. Individuals who make significant review contributions to Horizon will certainly be considered for Horizon core in time. I agree with Gabriel's suggestion of adding Horizon Core to tuskar-UI core. The idea being that Horizon core is looking for compatibility with Horizon initially and working toward a deeper understanding of the Tuskar-UI code base. This will help insure the integration process goes as smoothly as possible when Tuskar/TripleO comes out of incubation. I look forward to being able to merge the two code bases, but I don't think the time is right yet and Horizon should stick to only integrating code into OpenStack Dashboard that is out of incubation. We've made exceptions in the past, and they tend to have unfortunate consequences. -David -Original Message- From: Jiri Tomasek [mailto:jtoma...@redhat.com] Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 4:40 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Horizon and Tuskar-UI codebase merge On 12/19/2013 08:58 AM, Matthias Runge wrote: On 12/18/2013 10:33 PM, Gabriel Hurley wrote: Adding developers to Horizon Core just for the purpose of reviewing an incubated umbrella project is not the right way to do things at all. If my proposal of two separate groups having the +2 power in Gerrit isn't technically feasible then a new group should be created for management of umbrella projects. Yes, I totally agree. Having two separate projects with separate cores should be possible under the umbrella of a program. Tuskar differs somewhat from other projects to be included in horizon, because other projects contributed a view on their specific feature. Tuskar provides an additional dashboard and is talking with several apis below. It's a something like a separate dashboard to be merged here. When having both under the horizon program umbrella, my concern is, that both projects wouldn't be coupled so tight, as I would like it. Esp. I'd love to see an automatic merge of horizon commits to a (combined) tuskar and horizon repository, thus making sure, tuskar will work in a fresh (updated) horizon environment. Please correct me if I am wrong, but I think this is not an issue. Currently Tuskar-UI is run from Horizon fork. In local Horizon fork we create symlink to tuskar-ui local clone and to run Horizon with Tuskar-UI we simply start Horizon server. This means that Tuskar-UI runs on latest version of Horizon. (If you pull regularly of course). Matthias ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev Jirka ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Horizon and Tuskar-UI codebase merge
On 12/19/2013 05:32 PM, Jordan O'Mara wrote: - Original Message - So basically this is our first proposal what we send out: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-December/022196.html After Horizon meetings, several e-mails and also couple of other discussions of people who are for/against codebase merge, it looks that in the end upstream leans towards 'umbrella' solution. After all, +1 for umbrella solution from my side too. Tuskar UI will get closer to the nature of the project (based on Horizon, UI related audience). And in the same time, we will not rush things up before the project graduates. In Icehouse we can easier reach goals of both - Horizon as well as Tuskar UI - and after Icehouse release we can review back and get to the codebase merge in the end. Do you all agree? -- Jarda +1, I think this is the most sensible approach. +1 from me, this approach makes perfect sense. On 2013/18/12 22:33, Gabriel Hurley wrote: From my experience, directly adding incubated projects to the main Horizon codebase prior to graduation has been fraught with peril. That said, the closer they can be together prior to the graduation merge, the better. I like the idea of these types of projects being under the OpenStack Dashboard Program umbrella. Ideally I think it would be a jointly-managed resource in Gerrit. The Horizon Core folks would have +2 power, but the Tuskar core folks would also have +2 power. (I'm 90% certain that can be done in the Gerrit admin...) That way development speed isn't bottlenecked by Horizon Core, but there's a closer tie-in with the people who may ultimately be maintaining it. It becomes easier to keep track of, and can be more easily guided in the right directions. With a little work incubated dashboard components like this could even be made to be a non-gating part of the testing infrastructure to indicate when things change or break. Adding developers to Horizon Core just for the purpose of reviewing an incubated umbrella project is not the right way to do things at all. If my proposal of two separate groups having the +2 power in Gerrit isn't technically feasible then a new group should be created for management of umbrella projects. All the best, - Gabriel ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- Regards, Ana Krivokapic Associate Software Engineer OpenStack team Red Hat Inc. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Horizon and Tuskar-UI codebase merge
Another +1 for separate repos. Horizon's core focus should remain on the integrated projects, but we also need to prepare better for when incubated projects graduate, so their inclusion is less disruptive. I also like Gabriel's suggestion of a non-gating CI job to catch any integration issues between TuskarUI and Horizon. Kieran On 20 December 2013 03:29, Lyle, David david.l...@hp.com wrote: So after a lot of consideration, my opinion is the two code bases should stay in separate repos under the Horizon Program, for a few reasons: -Adding a large chunk of code for an incubated project is likely going to cause the Horizon delivery some grief due to dependencies and packaging issues at the distro level. -The code in Tuskar-UI is currently in a large state of flux/rework. The Tuskar-UI code needs to be able to move quickly and at times drastically, this could be detrimental to the stability of Horizon. And conversely, the stability needs of Horizon and be detrimental to the speed at which Tuskar-UI can change. -Horizon Core can review changes in the Tuskar-UI code base and provide feedback without the code needing to be integrated in Horizon proper. Obviously, with an eye to the code bases merging in the long run. As far as core group organization, I think the current Tuskar-UI core should maintain their +2 for only Tuskar-UI. Individuals who make significant review contributions to Horizon will certainly be considered for Horizon core in time. I agree with Gabriel's suggestion of adding Horizon Core to tuskar-UI core. The idea being that Horizon core is looking for compatibility with Horizon initially and working toward a deeper understanding of the Tuskar-UI code base. This will help insure the integration process goes as smoothly as possible when Tuskar/TripleO comes out of incubation. I look forward to being able to merge the two code bases, but I don't think the time is right yet and Horizon should stick to only integrating code into OpenStack Dashboard that is out of incubation. We've made exceptions in the past, and they tend to have unfortunate consequences. -David -Original Message- From: Jiri Tomasek [mailto:jtoma...@redhat.com] Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 4:40 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Horizon and Tuskar-UI codebase merge On 12/19/2013 08:58 AM, Matthias Runge wrote: On 12/18/2013 10:33 PM, Gabriel Hurley wrote: Adding developers to Horizon Core just for the purpose of reviewing an incubated umbrella project is not the right way to do things at all. If my proposal of two separate groups having the +2 power in Gerrit isn't technically feasible then a new group should be created for management of umbrella projects. Yes, I totally agree. Having two separate projects with separate cores should be possible under the umbrella of a program. Tuskar differs somewhat from other projects to be included in horizon, because other projects contributed a view on their specific feature. Tuskar provides an additional dashboard and is talking with several apis below. It's a something like a separate dashboard to be merged here. When having both under the horizon program umbrella, my concern is, that both projects wouldn't be coupled so tight, as I would like it. Esp. I'd love to see an automatic merge of horizon commits to a (combined) tuskar and horizon repository, thus making sure, tuskar will work in a fresh (updated) horizon environment. Please correct me if I am wrong, but I think this is not an issue. Currently Tuskar-UI is run from Horizon fork. In local Horizon fork we create symlink to tuskar-ui local clone and to run Horizon with Tuskar-UI we simply start Horizon server. This means that Tuskar-UI runs on latest version of Horizon. (If you pull regularly of course). Matthias ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev Jirka ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Horizon and Tuskar-UI codebase merge
From my experience, directly adding incubated projects to the main Horizon codebase prior to graduation has been fraught with peril. That said, the closer they can be together prior to the graduation merge, the better. I like the idea of these types of projects being under the OpenStack Dashboard Program umbrella. Ideally I think it would be a jointly-managed resource in Gerrit. The Horizon Core folks would have +2 power, but the Tuskar core folks would also have +2 power. (I'm 90% certain that can be done in the Gerrit admin...) That way development speed isn't bottlenecked by Horizon Core, but there's a closer tie-in with the people who may ultimately be maintaining it. It becomes easier to keep track of, and can be more easily guided in the right directions. With a little work incubated dashboard components like this could even be made to be a non-gating part of the testing infrastructure to indicate when things change or break. Adding developers to Horizon Core just for the purpose of reviewing an incubated umbrella project is not the right way to do things at all. If my proposal of two separate groups having the +2 power in Gerrit isn't technically feasible then a new group should be created for management of umbrella projects. All the best, - Gabriel -Original Message- From: Julie Pichon [mailto:jpic...@redhat.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 4:50 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Horizon] [Tuskar] [UI] Horizon and Tuskar-UI codebase merge Jaromir Coufal jcou...@redhat.com wrote: Hi All, After yesterday's weekly meeting it seems that majority of us is leaning towards this approach (codebase merge). However there are few concerns regarding speed of development and resources especially for reviews. With this e-mail, I'd like to kick off discussion about how we might assure to get enough people so that we can fulfill Horizon as well as Tuskar-UI goals. It seems to me the opinions were still divided in the meeting, and this is why we are continuing the discussion. Personally I'm more favourable to the initial proposal, of moving the tuskar-ui repository under the Horizon program. Existing Horizon cores add it to their Watched Changes under Gerrit, just like for Horizon and django_openstack_auth now, and get familiar with the project during its development. Tuskar-ui cores can move their discussions to the #openstack-horizon channel and that's another way that we all become part of the same horizon community, and another chance for the horizon folks to understand what's important to Tuskar. There's a number of exceptions that are being requested, that make me think now is not the right time to just merge the code into the main horizon codebase. A few that have come up during the IRC meeting: - Request for more attention due to the need to move very fast - (Possibly) Request for an exception to the same company approval rule - Request to be able to check in broken stuff at times In my mind these requirements come from being an incubated project with different priorities, which is fine but make the project not suitable for the main horizon codebase yet. I think it makes more sense to merge once the project is integrated, like we've done so far. Another discussion on list ([1]) makes it clear that there's no promise an incubated project will become integrated, and that it can be dropped from incubation. IMHO that's another argument for waiting for a project to be integrated before merging it. This doesn't mean it doesn't get any attention from the existing Horizon team. I think extending this rule to all - moving dashboard components from incubated projects under the Horizon program - would be more reasonable and easier to scale, than the proposed alternative. With respect to the e-mail which was sent Dec 17 (quoted below), I think all of what was written applies, we just need to clarify couple more details. And I hope we can get to consensus by the end of this week so that we can make things happen. *Blueprints:* Currently there is couple of already existing blueprints for Tuskar-UI and there will appear more based on wireframes around deployment setup (which are not finished yet). https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tuskar-ui We want to make sure, that Horizoners are fine with these blueprints being merged with Horizon ones, keeping their priorities and that there will appear couple more in time. *Cores:* To make sure that we have enough people to get the code in and also to help Horizoners to free load of reviews on their side, we propose to merge our core team (plus rdopieralski). All of them contributes to Horizon so they know the code well. People we are talking about: - jomara - jtomasek - lsmola - rdopieralski - tzumainn - (jcoufal) - At the moment
