Re: [openstack-dev] How to best make User Experience a priority in every project

On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: > On 12/06/2013 02:19 AM, Jaromir Coufal wrote: > > We are growing. At the moment we are 4 core members and others are > > coming in. But honestly, contributors are not coming to specific > > projects - they go to reach UX community in a sen

Re: [openstack-dev] How to best make User Experience a priority in every project

On 12/06/2013 02:19 AM, Jaromir Coufal wrote: > We are growing. At the moment we are 4 core members and others are > coming in. But honestly, contributors are not coming to specific > projects - they go to reach UX community in a sense - OK this is awesome > effort, how can I help? What can I work

Re: [openstack-dev] How to best make User Experience a priority in every project

I love the idea of treating usability as a first-class citizen; to do that, we definitely need a core set of people who are passionate about the topic in order to keep it alive in the OpenStack gestalt. Contributors tend to prioritize work on new, concrete features over “non-functional” requirem

Re: [openstack-dev] How to best make User Experience a priority in every project

On 2013/06/12 15:16, Anne Gentle wrote: On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 8:12 AM, Thierry Carrez > wrote: Jaromir Coufal wrote: > [...] > I am not trying to convince anybody here, I accept the decision 'no' (at > least for this moment). I just feel th

Re: [openstack-dev] How to best make User Experience a priority in every project

On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 8:12 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Jaromir Coufal wrote: > > [...] > > I am not trying to convince anybody here, I accept the decision 'no' (at > > least for this moment). I just feel that it was not consensus that most > > of people thinks that this is nonsense. I don't see a

Re: [openstack-dev] How to best make User Experience a priority in every project

Jaromir Coufal wrote: > [...] > I am not trying to convince anybody here, I accept the decision 'no' (at > least for this moment). I just feel that it was not consensus that most > of people thinks that this is nonsense. I don't see any strong reasons > why not. In time, I believe more people will

Re: [openstack-dev] How to best make User Experience a priority in every project

Hi I've just recently started wetting my feet in openstack, so my opinion is mostly external, and maybe naive, but I think that "everybody should think about UX" is not in opposition with having a team that focuses on it, just like it's nice to have people who focus on security, although obvio

Re: [openstack-dev] How to best make User Experience a priority in every project

Hi OpenStackers, I am replying to this thread with a smaller delay. I was keeping very close attention to it but I wanted to let the discussion flow without me interfering, so I see the community opinion on the UX effort. First of all, thanks Thierry to starting this thread and the whole dis

Re: [openstack-dev] How to best make User Experience a priority in every project

On Wed, 2013-11-20 at 11:06 -0600, Dean Troyer wrote: > On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > > > However, as was apparent in the Technical Committee meeting discussion > > > about it yesterday, most of us are not convinced that establishing and > > blessing a separate team is t

Re: [openstack-dev] How to best make User Experience a priority in every project

On Nov 21, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Jesse Noller wrote: > I’ve spoken to Everett and others about discussions had at the summit around > ideas like developer.openstack.org - and I think the idea is a good start > towards improving the lives of downstream application developers. Blueprint started by T

Re: [openstack-dev] How to best make User Experience a priority in every project

penstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] How to best make User Experience a priority in every project > On Nov 21, 2013, at 10:43 AM, "Ben Nemec" wrote: > >> On 2013-11-21 10:20, Jesse Noller wrote: >>> On Nov 20, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: >

Re: [openstack-dev] How to best make User Experience a priority in every project

On 2013-11-21 10:20, Jesse Noller wrote: On Nov 20, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi everyone, How should we proceed to make sure UX (user experience) is properly taken into account into OpenStack development ? Historically it was hard for UX sessions (especially the ones that aff

Re: [openstack-dev] How to best make User Experience a priority in every project

On Nov 20, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Hi everyone, > > How should we proceed to make sure UX (user experience) is properly > taken into account into OpenStack development ? Historically it was hard > for UX sessions (especially the ones that affect multiple projects, like > CLI /

Re: [openstack-dev] How to best make User Experience a priority in every project

> On Nov 21, 2013, at 10:43 AM, "Ben Nemec" wrote: > >> On 2013-11-21 10:20, Jesse Noller wrote: >>> On Nov 20, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: >>> Hi everyone, >>> How should we proceed to make sure UX (user experience) is properly >>> taken into account into OpenStack development ? H

Re: [openstack-dev] How to best make User Experience a priority in every project

On 20/11/13 09:37 -0600, Dolph Mathews wrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi everyone, How should we proceed to make sure UX (user experience) is properly taken into account into OpenStack development ? Historically it was hard for UX sessions (especia

Re: [openstack-dev] How to best make User Experience a priority in every project

On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Rochelle.Grober wrote: > > > > > Anne Gentle wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Thierry Carrez > wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > How should we proceed to make sure UX (user experience) is properly > taken into account into OpenStack development ? Historically

Re: [openstack-dev] How to best make User Experience a priority in every project

Anne Gentle wrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Thierry Carrez mailto:thie...@openstack.org>> wrote: Hi everyone, How should we proceed to make sure UX (user experience) is properly taken into account into OpenStack development ? Historically it was hard for UX sessions (especially the one

Re: [openstack-dev] How to best make User Experience a priority in every project

On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > However, as was apparent in the Technical Committee meeting discussion > about it yesterday, most of us are not convinced that establishing and > blessing a separate team is the most efficient way to give UX the > attention it deserves. Idea

Re: [openstack-dev] How to best make User Experience a priority in every project

On Nov 20, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Anne Gentle wrote: >> It's nigh-impossible with the UX resources there now (four core) for >> them to attend all the project meetings with an eye to UX. Docs are in a >> similar situation. We also want docs to be present in every project. >>

Re: [openstack-dev] How to best make User Experience a priority in every project

Anne Gentle wrote: > It's nigh-impossible with the UX resources there now (four core) for > them to attend all the project meetings with an eye to UX. Docs are in a > similar situation. We also want docs to be present in every project. > Docs as a program makes sense, and to me, UX as a program mak

Re: [openstack-dev] How to best make User Experience a priority in every project

On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Dolph Mathews wrote: > > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> How should we proceed to make sure UX (user experience) is properly >> taken into account into OpenStack development ? Historically it was hard >> for UX se

Re: [openstack-dev] How to best make User Experience a priority in every project

On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Hi everyone, > > How should we proceed to make sure UX (user experience) is properly > taken into account into OpenStack development ? Historically it was hard > for UX sessions (especially the ones that affect multiple projects, like > CLI

Re: [openstack-dev] How to best make User Experience a priority in every project

On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Hi everyone, > > How should we proceed to make sure UX (user experience) is properly > taken into account into OpenStack development ? Historically it was hard > for UX sessions (especially the ones that affect multiple projects, like > CLI

[openstack-dev] How to best make User Experience a priority in every project

Hi everyone, How should we proceed to make sure UX (user experience) is properly taken into account into OpenStack development ? Historically it was hard for UX sessions (especially the ones that affect multiple projects, like CLI / API experience) to get session time at our design summits. This v