Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

On Dec 13, 2013 12:20 PM, "Eric Windisch" wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Chuck Short wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I have definitely seen a drop off in the proposed Container-Service API discussion > > > There was only one action item from the meeting, which was a compilation of use-cases f

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Chuck Short wrote: > Hi, > > I have definitely seen a drop off in the proposed Container-Service API > discussion > There was only one action item from the meeting, which was a compilation of use-cases from Krishna. Krishna, have you made progress on the use-case

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

Hi, I have definitely seen a drop off in the proposed Container-Service API discussion. I think peple are still mauling over the ideas that were presented so far. However with looking at the discussion so far, and possibly trying to get the discussion going again, I don't think we are at the point

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

Hi all, Was wondering if there's been any more work done on the proposed Container-Service (Capsule?) API? Haven't seen much on the ML on this, so just want to make sure the current plan is still to have a draft of the Capsule API, compare the delta to the existing Nova API, and determine whether

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

On 11/22/2013 02:29 PM, Krishna Raman wrote: > > On Nov 22, 2013, at 10:26 AM, Eric Windisch > wrote: > >> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Krishna Raman > > wrote: >>> Reminder: We are meting in about 15 minutes on #openstack-meeting >>> c

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

On Nov 22, 2013, at 10:26 AM, Eric Windisch wrote: > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Krishna Raman wrote: >> Reminder: We are meting in about 15 minutes on #openstack-meeting channel. > > I wasn't able to make it. Was meeting-bot triggered? Is there a log of > today's discussion? Yes. Logs

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Krishna Raman wrote: > Reminder: We are meting in about 15 minutes on #openstack-meeting channel. I wasn't able to make it. Was meeting-bot triggered? Is there a log of today's discussion? Thank you, Eric Windisch ___

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

Reminder: We are meting in about 15 minutes on #openstack-meeting channel. --Krishna On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Krishna Raman wrote: > > > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Tim Bell wrote: > >> >> >> Can we make sure that the costs for the end users are also considered as >> part of t

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2013-11-22 01:50:39 -0800: > Tim Bell wrote: > > Can we make sure that the costs for the end users are also considered as > > part of this ? > > > > - Configuration management will need further modules > > - Dashboard confusion as we get

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Sam Alba wrote: > On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Krishna Raman wrote: > > > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Sam Alba wrote: > >> > >> I wish we can make a decision during this meeting. Is it confirmed for > >> Friday 9am pacific? > > > > > > Friday 9am Paci

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Tim Bell wrote: > > > Can we make sure that the costs for the end users are also considered as > part of this ? > > > > - Configuration management will need further modules > > - Dashboard confusion as we get multiple tabs > > - Account

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

Tim Bell wrote: > Can we make sure that the costs for the end users are also considered as > part of this ? > > - Configuration management will need further modules > - Dashboard confusion as we get multiple tabs > - Accounting, Block Storage, Networking, Orchestration >

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Sam Alba wrote: > On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Krishna Raman wrote: > > > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Sam Alba wrote: > >> > >> I wish we can make a decision during this meeting. Is it confirmed for > >> Friday 9am pacific? > > > > > > Friday 9am Pac

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

Hi Has a decision happened when this meeting is going to take place, assuming it is still taking place tomorrow. Regards chuck On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Krishna Raman wrote: > > On Nov 18, 2013, at 4:30 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: > > On 11/18/2013 06:30 PM, Dan Smith wrote: > > Not hav

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

Can we make sure that the costs for the end users are also considered as part of this ? - Configuration management will need further modules - Dashboard confusion as we get multiple tabs - Accounting, Block Storage, Networking, Orchestration confusion as the concep

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

Sounds good to me, let's get everyone on the same page before diving into the weeds. That said, since so much depends on the delta to the Nova API and the actual use-cases we want to support, think we should spend at least some time focusing on the direction (and maybe even the details?) that that

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

++ on Fri. 9am PST. On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Sam Alba wrote: > I wish we can make a decision during this meeting. Is it confirmed for > Friday 9am pacific? > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 8:24 AM, Chuck Short > wrote: > > Hi > > > > Has a decision happened when this meeting is going to ta

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Sam Alba wrote: > I wish we can make a decision during this meeting. Is it confirmed for > Friday 9am pacific? > Friday 9am Pacific seems to be the best time for this meeting. Can we use the #openstack-meeting channel for this? If not, then I can find another cha

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Krishna Raman wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Sam Alba wrote: >> >> I wish we can make a decision during this meeting. Is it confirmed for >> Friday 9am pacific? > > > Friday 9am Pacific seems to be the best time for this meeting. Can we use > the #ope

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

I wish we can make a decision during this meeting. Is it confirmed for Friday 9am pacific? On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 8:24 AM, Chuck Short wrote: > Hi > > Has a decision happened when this meeting is going to take place, assuming > it is still taking place tomorrow. > > Regards > chuck > > > On Mon,

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

On 11/19/2013 03:08 PM, Rick Jones wrote: > On 11/19/2013 10:02 AM, James Bottomley wrote: >> It is possible to extend the Nova APIs to control containers more fully, >> but there was resistance do doing this on the grounds that it's >> expanding the scope of Nova, hence the new project. > > How w

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

On 11/19/2013 10:02 AM, James Bottomley wrote: It is possible to extend the Nova APIs to control containers more fully, but there was resistance do doing this on the grounds that it's expanding the scope of Nova, hence the new project. How well received would another CLI/API to learn be among t

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:02:45AM -0800, James Bottomley wrote: > On Mon, 2013-11-18 at 14:28 -0800, Stuart Fox wrote: > > Hey all > > > > Not having been at the summit (maybe the next one), could somebody > > give a really short explanation as to why it needs to be a separate > > service? > > It

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

On Tue, 2013-11-19 at 13:46 -0500, Eric Windisch wrote: > On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:02 PM, James Bottomley > wrote: > > On Mon, 2013-11-18 at 14:28 -0800, Stuart Fox wrote: > >> Hey all > >> > >> Not having been at the summit (maybe the next one), could somebody > >> give a really short explanatio

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:02 PM, James Bottomley wrote: > On Mon, 2013-11-18 at 14:28 -0800, Stuart Fox wrote: >> Hey all >> >> Not having been at the summit (maybe the next one), could somebody >> give a really short explanation as to why it needs to be a separate >> service? >> It sounds like it

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 6:45 AM, Chuck Short wrote: > Hi > > I am excited to see containers getting such traction in the openstack > project. > > > On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: >> >> On 11/18/2013 06:30 PM, Dan Smith wrote: >> >> Not having been at the summit (maybe the

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

On Mon, 2013-11-18 at 14:28 -0800, Stuart Fox wrote: > Hey all > > Not having been at the summit (maybe the next one), could somebody > give a really short explanation as to why it needs to be a separate > service? > It sounds like it should fit within the Nova area. It is, after all, > just anoth

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

Hi I am excited to see containers getting such traction in the openstack project. On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: > On 11/18/2013 06:30 PM, Dan Smith wrote: > >> Not having been at the summit (maybe the next one), could somebody > >> give a really short explanation as to

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:57:51AM +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Russell Bryant wrote: > > My view of the outcome of the session was not "it *will* be a new > > service". Instead, it was, "we *think* it should be a new service, but > > let's do some more investigation to decide for sure". > > >

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

Russell Bryant wrote: > My view of the outcome of the session was not "it *will* be a new > service". Instead, it was, "we *think* it should be a new service, but > let's do some more investigation to decide for sure". > > The action item from the session was to go off and come up with a > propos

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 07:10:53PM -0500, Krishna Raman wrote: > We should probably meet on IRC or conf. call and discuss the suggested > architecture, open questions and REST API. > > I have set up a doodle poll at http://doodle.com/w7y5qcdvq9i36757 to gather a > times when we can meet. > Pleas

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

On Nov 18, 2013, at 6:05 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: > On 11/18/2013 07:58 PM, Krishna Raman wrote: >> I have also set up a doodle poll >> at http://doodle.com/w7y5qcdvq9i36757 to gather a times when a majority >> of us are available to discuss on IRC. > > What time zone are these times in? >

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

On 11/18/2013 07:58 PM, Krishna Raman wrote: > I have also set up a doodle poll > at http://doodle.com/w7y5qcdvq9i36757 to gather a times when a majority > of us are available to discuss on IRC. What time zone are these times in? -- Russell Bryant __

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

On Nov 18, 2013, at 4:30 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: > On 11/18/2013 06:30 PM, Dan Smith wrote: >>> Not having been at the summit (maybe the next one), could somebody >>> give a really short explanation as to why it needs to be a separate >>> service? It sounds like it should fit within the Nova a

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

On 11/18/2013 06:30 PM, Dan Smith wrote: >> Not having been at the summit (maybe the next one), could somebody >> give a really short explanation as to why it needs to be a separate >> service? It sounds like it should fit within the Nova area. It is, >> after all, just another hypervisor type, or

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

Excerpts from Sam Alba's message of 2013-11-18 14:05:47 -0800: > Hello everyone, > > As some of you already know - in Hong-Kong during the last OpenStack > Summit - we ran a design session in the Nova topic titled "Docker > support in OpenStack". The session concluded in developing a new > OpenSta

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

> Not having been at the summit (maybe the next one), could somebody > give a really short explanation as to why it needs to be a separate > service? It sounds like it should fit within the Nova area. It is, > after all, just another hypervisor type, or so it seems. But it's not just another hyper

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

On 11/18/2013 02:28 PM, Stuart Fox wrote: > Hey all > > Not having been at the summit (maybe the next one), could somebody give a > really short explanation as to why it needs to be a separate service? > It sounds like it should fit within the Nova area. It is, after all, just > another hyperv

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

Same question here. I also wonder why a new service. Yes the capabilities might be different (but then can't this be fixed this is nova by making nova support different capabilities in different hypervisors better). The api's also might be different (but then can't this be fixed by making the api p

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

Hey all Not having been at the summit (maybe the next one), could somebody give a really short explanation as to why it needs to be a separate service? It sounds like it should fit within the Nova area. It is, after all, just another hypervisor type, or so it seems. (I can’t find the justificat

[openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

Hello everyone, As some of you already know - in Hong-Kong during the last OpenStack Summit - we ran a design session in the Nova topic titled "Docker support in OpenStack". The session concluded in developing a new OpenStack service for supporting containers instead of modifying Nova to support b