Re: [openstack-dev] MuranoPL questions?

2014-03-24 Thread Dmitry
MuranoPL supposed to provide a solution for the real needs to manage services in the centralized manner and to allow cloud provider customers to create their own services. The application catalog similar to AppDirect (www.appdirect.com) natively supported by OpenStack is a huge step forward. Think

Re: [openstack-dev] MuranoPL questions?

2014-03-18 Thread Serg Melikyan
@lists.openstack.org Date: Monday, March 17, 2014 at 3:59 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] MuranoPL questions? Joshua, Completely agree with you. We wouldn't be writing another language if we knew

Re: [openstack-dev] MuranoPL questions?

2014-03-18 Thread Ruslan Kamaldinov
, March 17, 2014 at 3:59 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] MuranoPL questions? Joshua, Completely agree with you. We wouldn't be writing another language if we knew how any of existing languages can

Re: [openstack-dev] MuranoPL questions?

2014-03-18 Thread Renat Akhmerov
) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: Monday, March 10, 2014 at 8:36 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] MuranoPL questions? Although being a little bit verbose it makes a lot of sense to me. @Joshua

Re: [openstack-dev] MuranoPL questions?

2014-03-18 Thread Zane Bitter
List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: Monday, March 17, 2014 at 3:59 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] MuranoPL questions? Joshua, Completely agree with you. We

Re: [openstack-dev] MuranoPL questions?

2014-03-18 Thread Joshua Harlow
@lists.openstack.org openstack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] MuranoPL questions? On 18/03/14 08:01, Ruslan Kamaldinov wrote: Joshua, Clint, The only platform I'm aware about which fully supports true isolation and which has been used

Re: [openstack-dev] MuranoPL questions?

2014-03-17 Thread Stan Lagun
: Monday, March 10, 2014 at 8:36 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] MuranoPL questions? Although being a little bit verbose it makes a lot of sense to me. @Joshua, Even assuming Python could

Re: [openstack-dev] MuranoPL questions?

2014-03-17 Thread Joshua Harlow
@lists.openstack.orgmailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] MuranoPL questions? Joshua, Completely agree with you. We wouldn't be writing another language if we knew how any of existing languages can be used for this particular purpose. If anyone suggest such language

Re: [openstack-dev] MuranoPL questions?

2014-03-11 Thread Joshua Harlow
at 8:36 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] MuranoPL questions? Although being a little bit verbose it makes a lot of sense to me. @Joshua, Even assuming Python

Re: [openstack-dev] MuranoPL questions?

2014-03-10 Thread Renat Akhmerov
Although being a little bit verbose it makes a lot of sense to me. @Joshua, Even assuming Python could be sandboxed and whatever else that’s needed to be able to use it as DSL (for something like Mistral, Murano or Heat) is done why do you think Python would be a better alternative for people

Re: [openstack-dev] MuranoPL questions?

2014-03-09 Thread Joshua Harlow
I'd be very interested in knowing the resource controls u plan to add. Memory, CPU... I'm still trying to figure out where something like https://github.com/istalker2/MuranoDsl/blob/master/meta/com.mirantis.murano.demoApp.DemoInstance/manifest.yaml would be beneficial, why not just spend

Re: [openstack-dev] MuranoPL questions?

2014-03-09 Thread Stan Lagun
I'd be very interested in knowing the resource controls u plan to add. Memory, CPU... We haven't discussed it yet. Any suggestions are welcomed I'm still trying to figure out where something like

[openstack-dev] MuranoPL questions?

2014-03-08 Thread Joshua Harlow
To continue from other thread Personally I believe that YAQL-based DSLs similar (but probably simlet than) MuranoPL can be of a great value for many OpenStack projects that have DSLs of different kind. Murano for App Catatalog, Mistral for workflows, Heat for HOT templates, Ceilometer for

Re: [openstack-dev] MuranoPL questions?

2014-03-08 Thread Stan Lagun
First of all MuranoPL is not a host but hosted language. It never intended to replace Python and if Python can do the job it is probably better than MuranoPL for that job. The problem with Python is that you cannot have Python code as a part of your DSL if you need to evaluate that DSL on

Re: [openstack-dev] MuranoPL questions?

2014-03-08 Thread Stan Lagun
Forgot to say that the discussion was started in [openstack-dev] [Mistral] Crack at a Real life workflow thread On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Stan Lagun sla...@mirantis.com wrote: First of all MuranoPL is not a host but hosted language. It never intended to replace Python and if Python can