Re: [openstack-dev] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2015-01-11 Thread Anita Kuno
On 01/10/2015 05:57 AM, Armando M. wrote: If we were standing at a place with a detailed manual upgrade document that explained how to do minimal VM downtime, that a few ops had gone through and proved out, that would be one thing. And we could figure out which parts made sense to put tooling

Re: [openstack-dev] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2015-01-09 Thread Thierry Carrez
Maru Newby wrote: On Jan 8, 2015, at 3:54 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: The crux of it comes from the fact that the operator voice (especially those folks with large nova-network deploys) wasn't represented there. Once we got back from the mid-cycle and brought it to the list, there

Re: [openstack-dev] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2015-01-09 Thread Jesse Pretorius
On 9 January 2015 at 02:57, Tom Fifield t...@openstack.org wrote: On 09/01/15 08:06, Maru Newby wrote: The fact that operators running nova-network would like the upstream community to pay for implementing an automated migration solution for them is hardly surprising. It is less clear to me

Re: [openstack-dev] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2015-01-09 Thread Armando M.
If we were standing at a place with a detailed manual upgrade document that explained how to do minimal VM downtime, that a few ops had gone through and proved out, that would be one thing. And we could figure out which parts made sense to put tooling around to make this easier for everyone.

Re: [openstack-dev] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2015-01-09 Thread Sean Dague
On 01/09/2015 05:04 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Maru Newby wrote: On Jan 8, 2015, at 3:54 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: The crux of it comes from the fact that the operator voice (especially those folks with large nova-network deploys) wasn't represented there. Once we got back from the

Re: [openstack-dev] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2015-01-08 Thread Tom Fifield
On 09/01/15 08:06, Maru Newby wrote: On Jan 8, 2015, at 3:54 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 01/08/2015 06:41 PM, Maru Newby wrote: As per a recent exchange on #openstack-neutron, I’ve been asked to present my views on this effort. What follows is in no way intended to detract

Re: [openstack-dev] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2015-01-08 Thread Sean Dague
On 01/08/2015 06:41 PM, Maru Newby wrote: As per a recent exchange on #openstack-neutron, I’ve been asked to present my views on this effort. What follows is in no way intended to detract from the hard work and dedication of those undertaking it, but I think that their energy could be

Re: [openstack-dev] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2015-01-08 Thread Maru Newby
As per a recent exchange on #openstack-neutron, I’ve been asked to present my views on this effort. What follows is in no way intended to detract from the hard work and dedication of those undertaking it, but I think that their energy could be better spent. At nova’s juno mid-cycle in July,

Re: [openstack-dev] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2015-01-08 Thread Maru Newby
On Jan 8, 2015, at 3:54 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 01/08/2015 06:41 PM, Maru Newby wrote: As per a recent exchange on #openstack-neutron, I’ve been asked to present my views on this effort. What follows is in no way intended to detract from the hard work and dedication of

Re: [openstack-dev] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2015-01-07 Thread Belmiro Moreira
Hi Anita, I'm available Tuesday and Wednesday (0800-1600 UTC), Friday (0800-1800 UTC). Belmiro On Tuesday, December 30, 2014, Oleg Bondarev obonda...@mirantis.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 12:56 AM, Anita Kuno ante...@anteaya.info javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ante...@anteaya.info');

[openstack-dev] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2014-12-19 Thread Anita Kuno
Rather than waste your time making excuses let me state where we are and where I would like to get to, also sharing my thoughts about how you can get involved if you want to see this happen as badly as I have been told you do. Where we are: * a great deal of foundation work has been