Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Proposal for new heat-core member

2013-10-29 Thread Steven Hardy
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:12:54PM -0700, Steven Dake wrote: Please have a vote +1/-1 +1 ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Network topologies

2013-10-29 Thread Steven Hardy
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 01:19:13PM -0700, Edgar Magana wrote: Hello Folks, Thank you Zane, Steven and Clint for you input. Our main goal in this BP is to provide networking users such as Heat (we consider it as a neutron user) a better and consolidated network building block in terms of

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Proposal for new heat-core member

2013-10-29 Thread Liang Chen
+1 ! On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 12:12 -0700, Steven Dake wrote: Hi, I would like to propose Randall Burt for Heat Core. He has shown interest in Heat by participating in IRC and providing high quality reviews. The most important aspect in my mind of joining Heat Core is output and quality of

[openstack-dev] [nova][scheduler] Instance Group Model and APIs - Updated document with an example request payload

2013-10-29 Thread Yathiraj Udupi (yudupi)
The Instance Group API document is now updated with a simple example request payload of a nested group, and some description of how the API implementation should handle the registration of the components of a nested instance group.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Comments on Steve Baker's Proposal on HOT Software Config

2013-10-29 Thread Steven Hardy
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 04:48:45PM -0400, Mike Spreitzer wrote: Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com wrote on 10/28/2013 04:24:30 PM: On 10/29/2013 02:53 AM, Steven Hardy wrote: ... Can anyone provide me with a clear argument for what the fundamental differences actually are? ... Since

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Comments on Steve Baker's Proposal on HOT Software Config

2013-10-29 Thread Steven Hardy
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 02:34:44PM -0700, Georgy Okrokvertskhov wrote: I believe we had a discussion about difference between declarative approach and workflows. A component approach is consistent with declarative format as all actions\operations are hidden inside the service. If you want to

[openstack-dev] [Trove] Design Summit Etherpads

2013-10-29 Thread Nikhil Manchanda
The list of Etherpads for the design summit sessions for Trove is now posted at: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Summit/Icehouse/Etherpads#Trove Feel free to add any relevant notes to the Etherpads. Thanks, Cheers, -Nikhil ___ OpenStack-dev mailing

Re: [openstack-dev] Full schedule for HongKong summit?

2013-10-29 Thread Sylvain Bauza
I had the same concern, and only ended up exporting my Sched.org agendas (the sessions I starred) to my own Google agenda (using iCal) in order to see the conflicts. Hope it can helps, -Sylvain Le 29/10/2013 04:08, Lu, Lianhao a écrit : Hi all, Looks like we have

Re: [openstack-dev] Full schedule for HongKong summit?

2013-10-29 Thread Dina Belova
There is no such mixed calendar. It was made, as far as I remember, because design and summit talks are very different and should be separated. But still, it is not really comfortable. On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Sylvain Bauza sylvain.ba...@bull.netwrote: I had the same concern, and

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Security groups with XenAPI

2013-10-29 Thread Simon Pasquier
Hi Bob, Thanks for the reply. Le 28/10/2013 17:47, Bob Ball a écrit : Hi Simon, Yes, I believe you are right. We were already planning to discuss this very topic at the XenAPI roadmap session at the summit. Hopefully someone will take on tying up this loose end there. Security group

[openstack-dev] [Nova]Ideas of idempotentcy-client-token

2013-10-29 Thread haruka tanizawa
Hi all! I proposed 'Idempotency for OpenStack API' as before. In this time, I rewrote BP( https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/idempotentcy-client-token ) and I implemented proto of it. I image below use-case. User can't know instance ID when the client has gone away before user get

[openstack-dev] [Marconi] Design Summit Etherpads

2013-10-29 Thread Flavio Percoco
Greetings, Here[0] you can find Marconi's etherpads for the Icehouse Design Summit. [0] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Summit/Icehouse/Etherpads#Marconi -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Object status and admin_state_up

2013-10-29 Thread Eugene Nikanorov
Hi folks, Currently there are two attributes of vips/pools/members that represent a status: 'status' and 'admin_state_up'. The first one is used to represent deployment status and can be PENDING_CREATE, ACTIVE, PENDING_DELETE, ERROR. We also have admin_state_up which could be True or False. I'd

[openstack-dev] Unable to logging to guest console on XCP/xenserver

2013-10-29 Thread Rajshree Thorat
Hi, I am trying to use Openstack Havana to control XCP hypervisor with neutron OVS plugin. I can launch instances normally but unable to logging to guest console. Please see the below log from nova compute to get a clear idea. Log: 2013-10-29 14:09:10.203 954 AUDIT nova.compute.manager

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][scheduler] Instance Group Model and APIs - Updated document with an example request payload

2013-10-29 Thread David koo
Hi Yathi, https://docs.google.com/document/d/17OIiBoIavih-1y4zzK0oXyI66529f-7JTCVj-BcXURA/edit Would it be possible to provide an alternate link to the doc? The GFW blocks google docs :(. Thanks. -- Koo ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list

[openstack-dev] Reminder: Project release status meeting - 21:00 UTC

2013-10-29 Thread Thierry Carrez
One week before the OpenStack Summit in Hong-Kong, this meeting should be short. We will focus on solving the last conflicts with the tentative Design Summit schedule and make it official. Feel free to add extra topics to the agenda: [1] http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/ProjectMeeting All

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [neutron] PCI pass-through network support

2013-10-29 Thread Robert Li (baoli)
Hi Irena, Thank you very much for your comments. See inline. --Robert On 10/27/13 3:48 AM, Irena Berezovsky ire...@mellanox.commailto:ire...@mellanox.com wrote: Hi Robert, Thank you very much for sharing the information regarding your efforts. Can you please share your idea of the end to end

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [neutron] PCI pass-through network support

2013-10-29 Thread Jiang, Yunhong
Robert, is it possible to have a IRC meeting? I'd prefer to IRC meeting because it's more openstack style and also can keep the minutes clearly. To your flow, can you give more detailed example. For example, I can consider user specify the instance with -nic option specify a network id, and

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Preserving ephemeral block device on rebuild?

2013-10-29 Thread Day, Phil
Hi Rob, I think it looks like a good option - but I'd like to see it exposed as such to the user rather than a change in the default behavior as such. I.e. rebuild --keep-ephemenral=True Phil -Original Message- From: Robert Collins [mailto:robe...@robertcollins.net] Sent:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Blueprint review process

2013-10-29 Thread John Garbutt
On 28 October 2013 15:39, Anne Gentle a...@openstack.org wrote: On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 9:24 AM, John Garbutt j...@johngarbutt.com wrote: Here is a really bad attempt at codifying what I think about features vs bugs: 1) If its a new API call, or a change in behaviour, or a new config setting,

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [neutron] PCI pass-through network support

2013-10-29 Thread Irena Berezovsky
Hi Jiang, Robert, IRC meeting option works for me. If I understand your question below, you are looking for a way to tie up between requested virtual network(s) and requested PCI device(s). The way we did it in our solution is to map a provider:physical_network to an interface that represents

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Preserving ephemeral block device on rebuild?

2013-10-29 Thread Robert Collins
On 29 October 2013 23:06, Day, Phil philip@hp.com wrote: Hi Rob, I think it looks like a good option - but I'd like to see it exposed as such to the user rather than a change in the default behavior as such. I.e. rebuild --keep-ephemenral=True Oh, I must not have been clear.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Blueprint review process

2013-10-29 Thread John Garbutt
John Garbutt wrote: On 25 October 2013 11:52, Nikola Đipanov ndipa...@redhat.com wrote: I don't have the numbers but I have a feeling that what happened in Havana was that a lot of blueprints slipped until the time for feature freeze. Reviewers thought it was a worthwile feature at that point

Re: [openstack-dev] Full schedule for HongKong summit?

2013-10-29 Thread Thierry Carrez
Dina Belova wrote: There is no such mixed calendar. It was made, as far as I remember, because design and summit talks are very different and should be separated. But still, it is not really comfortable. Yes, it's a bit of a trade-off... In the past we had a lot of people, attracted by

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Preserving ephemeral block device on rebuild?

2013-10-29 Thread John Garbutt
On 29 October 2013 10:20, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: On 29 October 2013 23:06, Day, Phil philip@hp.com wrote: Hi Rob, I think it looks like a good option - but I'd like to see it exposed as such to the user rather than a change in the default behavior as such. I.e.

[openstack-dev] [nova] reason for python-novaclient revert

2013-10-29 Thread Sean Dague
Andrew Laski correctly called us out for not really proving enough information n the python-novaclient revert yesterday - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54108/. Appologies there. At the time we were dealing with a gate that grenade was failing every change (for the prior 6 hours), we were

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [neutron] PCI pass-through network support

2013-10-29 Thread John Garbutt
I would love to see a symmetry between Cinder local volumes and Neutron PCI passthrough VIFs. Not entirely sure I have that clear in my head right now, but I just wanted to share the idea: * describe resource external to nova that is attached to VM in the API (block device mapping and/or vif

Re: [openstack-dev] Remove vim modelines?

2013-10-29 Thread Joe Gordon
So after over 20 messages in this thread, now what? From my count we have 3 -, and 12 +1s. Is that enough for consensus? Do we move modelines lines to the bottom? Put them in every file? Or just remove them?

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova]Ideas of idempotentcy-client-token

2013-10-29 Thread haruka tanizawa
Hi Joe! Thank you for your reply and sharing the information. I am going to rewrite blueprint from many point of view. Sincerely, Haruka Tanizawa 2013/10/29 Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 8:50 AM, haruka tanizawa harube...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all! I proposed

Re: [openstack-dev] Remove vim modelines?

2013-10-29 Thread Robert Collins
On 28 October 2013 23:54, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: We don't just gate without telling people, the first two items in hacking are read pep8 http://docs.openstack.org/developer/hacking/ The gate is super useful, but it's reactive, not proactive. And good documentation isn't a

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][scheduler] Instance Group Model and APIs - Updated document with an example request payload

2013-10-29 Thread John Garbutt
On 29 October 2013 06:46, Yathiraj Udupi (yudupi) yud...@cisco.com wrote: The Instance Group API document is now updated with a simple example request payload of a nested group, and some description of how the API implementation should handle the registration of the components of a nested

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][qa] user-oriented release notes for v3 api?

2013-10-29 Thread John Garbutt
On 28 October 2013 23:40, Christopher Yeoh cbky...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 7:22 AM, David Kranz dkr...@redhat.com wrote: As I looked at the havana release notes that talk about the v3 api, and as I was reviewing port test_images and test_server_actions into v3 part2

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova]Ideas of idempotentcy-client-token

2013-10-29 Thread haruka tanizawa
Hi Joe! Thank you for your help. I wrote BP https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/idempotentcy- client-token again. Could you review it when you have time. I like the idea but two comments: * Can you fill out the questions found in

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Thoughs please on how to address a problem with mutliple deletes leading to a nova-compute thread pool problem

2013-10-29 Thread John Garbutt
On 25 October 2013 23:23, Chris Behrens cbehr...@codestud.com wrote: On Oct 25, 2013, at 3:46 AM, Day, Phil philip@hp.com wrote: Hi Folks, We're very occasionally seeing problems where a thread processing a create hangs (and we've seen when taking to Cinder and Glance). Whilst those

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Glance] Support of v1 and v2 glance APIs in Nova

2013-10-29 Thread John Garbutt
Going back to Joe's comment: Can both of these cases be covered by configuring the keystone catalog? +1 If both v1 and v2 are present, pick v2, otherwise just pick what is in the catalogue. That seems cool. Not quite sure how the multiple glance endpoints works in the keystone catalog, but

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova]Ideas of idempotentcy-client-token

2013-10-29 Thread John Garbutt
On 29 October 2013 11:56, haruka tanizawa harube...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Joe! Thank you for your help. I wrote BP https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/idempotentcy-client-token again. Could you review it when you have time. I like the idea but two comments: * Can you fill out the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Comments on Steve Baker's Proposal on HOT Software Config

2013-10-29 Thread Zane Bitter
On 28/10/13 04:23, Lakshminaraya Renganarayana wrote: Sorry, Re-posting this with [Heat] in the subject line, because many of us have filters based on [Heat] in the subject line. Hello, A few us at IBM studied Steve Baker's proposal on HOT Software Configuration. Overall the proposed

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Comments on Steve Baker's Proposal on HOT Software Config

2013-10-29 Thread Zane Bitter
On 28/10/13 14:53, Steven Hardy wrote: On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 11:23:20PM -0400, Lakshminaraya Renganarayana wrote: A few us at IBM studied Steve Baker's proposal on HOT Software Configuration. Overall the proposed constructs and syntax are great -- we really like the clean syntax and concise

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Glance] Support of v1 and v2 glance APIs in Nova

2013-10-29 Thread Ghe Rivero
I haven't look at the review proposed yet one week ago, but some time ago, we needed something similar for Ironic (nova, ironic and cinder share almost the same code for the glance driver), but didn't make it. In case someone wants to take a look: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33327/ I'll

[openstack-dev] [keystone] Support for external authentication (i.e. REMOTE_USER) in Havana

2013-10-29 Thread Álvaro López García
Hi there, I've been working on this bug [1,2] related with the pluggable external authentication support in Havana. For those not familiar with it, Keystone can rely on the usage of the REMOTE_USER env variable, assuming that the user has been authenticated upstream (by an httpd server). This

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Nova] summit overlap

2013-10-29 Thread Russell Bryant
On 10/28/2013 06:41 PM, Devananda van der Veen wrote: I can't make the Wed 2:50 session -- I'm presenting at that time -- but I don't think it's essential for me to be there anyway. Everything else LGTM. Thanks! Would you rather be able to attend that one (Smarter resource placement for

[openstack-dev] AUTO: Alexandra Shulman-Peleg is out of the office. (returning 31/10/2013)

2013-10-29 Thread Alexandra Shulman-Peleg
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Re: [openstack-dev] Remove vim modelines?

2013-10-29 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.netwrote: On 28 October 2013 23:54, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: We don't just gate without telling people, the first two items in hacking are read pep8 http://docs.openstack.org/developer/hacking/ The

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][scheduler] Instance Group Model and APIs - Updated document with an example request payload

2013-10-29 Thread Khanh-Toan Tran
Hi Yathi, Thank you for yor example. I have some remarks concerning the JSON format: 1) Member of a group is recursive. A member can be group or an instance. In this case there are two different declaration formats for members, as with http-server-group-1 (name, policy, edge) and Http-Server-1

Re: [openstack-dev] Remove vim modelines?

2013-10-29 Thread Andrew Laski
On 10/29/13 at 10:53am, Joe Gordon wrote: So after over 20 messages in this thread, now what? From my count we have 3 -, and 12 +1s. Is that enough for consensus? Do we move modelines lines to the bottom? Put them in every file? Or just remove them? I have no strong feeling either way on

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Preserving ephemeral block device on rebuild?

2013-10-29 Thread Russell Bryant
On 10/28/2013 06:17 AM, John Garbutt wrote: Is there a reason why you could not just use a Cinder Volume for your data, in this case? Yeah, he was saying that's the long term goal, and an Ironic-targeted feature. While at a first glance, it feels rather wrong, and un-cloudy, I do see

[openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Suggestions for alarm improvements ...

2013-10-29 Thread Sandy Walsh
Hey y'all, Here are a few notes I put together around some ideas for alarm improvements. In order to set it up I spent a little time talking about the Ceilometer architecture in general, including some of the things we have planned for IceHouse. I think Parts 1-3 will be useful to anyone

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [neutron] PCI pass-through network support

2013-10-29 Thread Robert Li (baoli)
Hi, sounds like there are enough interests for an IRC meeting before the summit. Do you guys know how to schedule a #openstack IRC meeting? thanks, Robert On 10/29/13 6:17 AM, Irena Berezovsky ire...@mellanox.commailto:ire...@mellanox.com wrote: Hi Jiang, Robert, IRC meeting option works for

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Support for external authentication (i.e. REMOTE_USER) in Havana

2013-10-29 Thread David Chadwick
Whilst on this topic, perhaps we should also expand it to discuss support for external authz as well. I know that Adam at Red Hat is working on adding additional authz attributes as env variables so that these can be used for authorising the user in keystone. It should be the same module in

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [neutron] PCI pass-through network support

2013-10-29 Thread Robert Li (baoli)
Hi Yunhong, I haven't looked at Mellanox in much detail. I think that we'll get more details from Irena down the road. Regarding your question, I can only answer based on my experience with Cisco's VM-FEX. In a nutshell: -- a vNIC is connected to an external switch. Once the host is booted

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [neutron] PCI pass-through network support

2013-10-29 Thread Robert Li (baoli)
Hi John, Great to hear from you on Cinder with pcipassthrough. I thought that it would be coming. I like the idea. thanks, Robert On 10/29/13 6:46 AM, John Garbutt j...@johngarbutt.com wrote: I would love to see a symmetry between Cinder local volumes and Neutron PCI passthrough VIFs. Not

Re: [openstack-dev] Remove vim modelines?

2013-10-29 Thread David Stanek
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.netwrote: *) They help casual contributors *more* than long time core contributors : and those are the folk that are most likely to give up and walk away. Keeping barriers to entry low is an important part of making

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Object status and admin_state_up

2013-10-29 Thread Avishay Balderman
Hi It feels like a driver specific topic. So I am not sure we can come to a generic solution in the lbaas core code. Thanks Avishay From: Eugene Nikanorov [mailto:enikano...@mirantis.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 11:19 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List Subject: [openstack-dev]

[openstack-dev] [Trove] Templates in Trove

2013-10-29 Thread Robert Myers
I'm pulling this conversation out of the gerrit review as I think it needs more discussion. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53499/ I want to discuss the design decision to not use Jinja templates for the heat templates. My arguments for using Jinja for heat as well are: 1. We have to rewrite

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [neutron] PCI pass-through network support

2013-10-29 Thread Henry Gessau
Lots of great info and discussion going on here. One additional thing I would like to mention is regarding PF and VF usage. Normally VFs will be assigned to instances, and the PF will either not be used at all, or maybe some agent in the host of the compute node might have access to the PF for

Re: [openstack-dev] [Trove] Templates in Trove

2013-10-29 Thread Denis Makogon
Robert, i also have thoughts about templates. Your suggestion is rather complex. Let me explain why is it so: With new datastore support you should update PackageLoader and FilesystemLoader with new filesystem path and package path. I would prefe more easy configuration and store it in next

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Network topologies

2013-10-29 Thread Tim Schnell
Hi Edgar, It seems like this blueprint is related more to building an api that manages a network topology more than one that needs to build out the dependencies between resources to help create the network topology. If we are talking about just an api to save, duplicate, and share these network

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Proposal for new heat-core member

2013-10-29 Thread Jeff Peeler
On 10/25/2013 03:12 PM, Steven Dake wrote: I would like to propose Randall Burt for Heat Core. Please have a vote +1/-1 and take into consideration: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat/CoreTeam [1]http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/heat-reviewers-180.txt

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Support for external authentication (i.e. REMOTE_USER) in Havana

2013-10-29 Thread Alan Sill
+1 (except possibly for the environmental variables portion, which could and perhaps should be handled through provisioning). On Oct 29, 2013, at 8:35 AM, David Chadwick d.w.chadw...@kent.ac.uk wrote: Whilst on this topic, perhaps we should also expand it to discuss support for external

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Comments on Steve Baker's Proposal on HOT Software Config

2013-10-29 Thread Georgy Okrokvertskhov
Hi Steve, I am sorry for my confusing message. Just for clarification, I am against adding new abstracts to the HOT template. I just wanted to highlight that in Lakshminarayana proposal there are multiple steps which represent the same component in different stages. This might be confusing,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Comments on Steve Baker's Proposal on HOT Software Config

2013-10-29 Thread Steven Hardy
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 01:50:59PM +0100, Zane Bitter wrote: On 28/10/13 14:53, Steven Hardy wrote: On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 11:23:20PM -0400, Lakshminaraya Renganarayana wrote: A few us at IBM studied Steve Baker's proposal on HOT Software Configuration. Overall the proposed constructs and

[openstack-dev] Hyper-V meeting canceled for today.

2013-10-29 Thread Peter Pouliot
Hi Everyone. Many of key individuals are preparing for the summit, and will not be able to attend today, so it's best to postpone the meeting until after the summit. p Peter J. Pouliot, CISSP Senior SDET, OpenStack Microsoft New England Research Development Center One Memorial

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Support for external authentication (i.e. REMOTE_USER) in Havana

2013-10-29 Thread Fox, Kevin M
Has the case been considered where REMOTE_USER is used with authentication mechanisms where the username is an email address? It will have to keep the @domain part because that's the only thing that makes it unique. Thanks, Kevin From: Álvaro López

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Glance] Support of v1 and v2 glance APIs in Nova

2013-10-29 Thread Eddie Sheffield
John Garbutt j...@johngarbutt.com said: Going back to Joe's comment: Can both of these cases be covered by configuring the keystone catalog? +1 If both v1 and v2 are present, pick v2, otherwise just pick what is in the catalogue. That seems cool. Not quite sure how the multiple glance

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Nova] summit overlap

2013-10-29 Thread Devananda van der Veen
Based on the current descriptions, I think Instance Group Model looks more important for me. Current schedule appears fine for that. -D On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 5:59 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 10/28/2013 06:41 PM, Devananda van der Veen wrote: I can't make the Wed 2:50

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] reason for python-novaclient revert

2013-10-29 Thread Joshua Harlow
Zuul just caused my brain to overload ;) thx for the detailed explanation. Sent from my really tiny device... On Oct 29, 2013, at 3:42 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: Andrew Laskicorrectly called us out for not really proving enough information n the python-novaclient revert

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Support for external authentication (i.e. REMOTE_USER) in Havana

2013-10-29 Thread Tim Bell
We also need some standardisation on the command line options for the client portion (such as --os-auth-method, --os-x509-cert etc.) . Unfortunately, this is not yet in Oslo so there would be multiple packages to be enhanced. Tim -Original Message- From: Alan Sill

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Object status and admin_state_up

2013-10-29 Thread Eugene Nikanorov
That's right, it is driver-specific, but we can come up with a generic guideline for this. Also, I'm interested in preferred solution for HAProxy. Thanks, Eugene. On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Avishay Balderman avish...@radware.comwrote: Hi It feels like a driver specific topic.

Re: [openstack-dev] Unable to logging to guest console on XCP/xenserver

2013-10-29 Thread Bob Ball
The trace below seems to be wanting to access the console log, rather than the VNC console. I believe there is a blog post about how to enable this, but basically you need a cronjob to run in dom0 to rotate the logs. This is because the Xen console logging is not ring-based, and therefore

Re: [openstack-dev] [Trove] Templates in Trove

2013-10-29 Thread Robert Myers
So I guess the only contention point is to either store the templates by type or by datastore. I don't see the use case where you'd have completely different paths for templates, so there is really no need for two separate template paths. My idea is to group the templates by data_store because as

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Support for external authentication (i.e. REMOTE_USER) in Havana

2013-10-29 Thread David Chadwick
What is the semantic of domain in the current implementation? Until we know this we cant devise a solution. Will the developed solution cater for me logging in via Google using my kent email address (as opposed to my gmail one)? In this case there could be 2 domains (depending upon the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Trove] Templates in Trove

2013-10-29 Thread Daniel Salinas
I like simple. To me it is easier to break them out into dirs like Robert suggested rather than eventually having a folder full of num_datastore_types * 2 files. As for the structure, I find it more intuitive to have the directories named for the datastore type. within that dir you can have the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Trove] Templates in Trove

2013-10-29 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Robert Myers's message of 2013-10-29 07:54:59 -0700: I'm pulling this conversation out of the gerrit review as I think it needs more discussion. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53499/ After reading the comments in that review, it seems to me that you don't need a client side

Re: [openstack-dev] [Trove] Templates in Trove

2013-10-29 Thread Denis Makogon
+1 for idea suggested in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54315/. We discussed to store heat templates at separate idea - so, here it is. I think it's ok to store configs in separate dirs: one for configurations and one for heat templates. 2013/10/29 Daniel Salinas imsplit...@gmail.com I

Re: [openstack-dev] [Trove] Templates in Trove

2013-10-29 Thread Denis Makogon
Only trove administrator has access to heat templates, user cannot manipulate templates, if he could we would not need trove at all. And idea is to store only one template per datastore. And, i know that templates could be parametrized. But, keep in mind, that we cannot inject in templates

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Suggestions for alarm improvements ...

2013-10-29 Thread Qing He
Sandy, Does the framework account for customizable events?: In my use case, I have a network (or some other proprietary way, e.g., some special BUS protocol) attached device that does not fit into openstack node structure. It can generate events. According to these events, Openstack

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Common requirements for services' discussion

2013-10-29 Thread Sumit Naiksatam
Hi, Here is the log from today's meeting: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_advanced_services/2013/networking_advanced_services.2013-10-29-15.33.log.html (some action items for a few folks who were present, we will follow up in the next meeting.) Thanks, ~Sumit. On Mon, Oct

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Shared network between specific tenants, but not all tenants?

2013-10-29 Thread Justin Hammond
We have been considering this and have some notes on our concept, but we haven't made a blueprint for it. I will speak amongst my group and find out what they think of making it more public. On 10/29/13 12:26 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Neutron devs, Are there any plans to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Network topologies

2013-10-29 Thread Edgar Magana
Tim, You statement building an api that manages a network topology more than one that needs to build out the dependencies between resources to help create the network topology Is exactly what we are proposing, and this is why we believe this is not under Heat domain. This is why we are NOT

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Glance] Support of v1 and v2 glance APIs in Nova

2013-10-29 Thread Mark Washenberger
I am not a fan of all the specific talk to glance code we have in nova, moving more of that into glanceclient can only be a good thing. For the XenServer itegration, for efficiency reasons, we need glance to talk from dom0, so it has dom0 making the final HTTP call. So we would need a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Shared network between specific tenants, but not all tenants?

2013-10-29 Thread Jay Pipes
On 10/29/2013 02:25 PM, Justin Hammond wrote: We have been considering this and have some notes on our concept, but we haven't made a blueprint for it. I will speak amongst my group and find out what they think of making it more public. OK, cool, glad to know I'm not the only one with tenants

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Network topologies

2013-10-29 Thread Aaron Rosen
Hi Edgar, I definitely see the usecase for the idea that you propose. In my opinion, I don't see the reason for moving the management of topology into neutron, Heat already provides this functionality (besides for the part of taking an existing deployment and generating a template file). Also, I

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][scheduler] Instance Group Model and APIs - Updated document with an example request payload

2013-10-29 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Alex Glikson glik...@il.ibm.com wrote on 10/29/2013 03:37:41 AM: 1. I assume that the motivation for rack-level anti-affinity is to survive a rack failure. Is this indeed the case? This is a very interesting and important scenario, but I am curious about your assumptions regarding all the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Network topologies

2013-10-29 Thread Edgar Magana
Aaron, Moving the management of topology? I am not proposing nothing like that, actually could you explain me the current workflow to save a network topology created by Neutron APIs, in order to use it by a different tenant or the owner itself in a different time? Possibly, that is the part that

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [neutron] PCI pass-through network support

2013-10-29 Thread Jiang, Yunhong
* describe resource external to nova that is attached to VM in the API (block device mapping and/or vif references) * ideally the nova scheduler needs to be aware of the local capacity, and how that relates to the above information (relates to the cross service scheduling issues) I think

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Network topologies

2013-10-29 Thread Zane Bitter
On 29/10/13 19:33, Edgar Magana wrote: Tim, You statement building an api that manages a network topology more than one that needs to build out the dependencies between resources to help create the network topology Is exactly what we are proposing, and this is why we believe this is not under

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][scheduler] Instance Group Model and APIs - Updated document with an example request payload

2013-10-29 Thread Mike Spreitzer
Khanh-Toan Tran khanh-toan.t...@cloudwatt.com wrote on 10/29/2013 09:10:00 AM: ... 1) Member of a group is recursive. A member can be group or an instance. In this case there are two different declaration formats for members, as with http-server-group-1 (name, policy, edge) and

Re: [openstack-dev] [Trove] Templates in Trove

2013-10-29 Thread Robert Myers
I hear you Clint. I'm not an expert on heat templates so it is possible to do this all with one. However I don't want to use Jinja to replace the heat template logic just for sane template loading. We are already using Jinja templates to load custom config files. So it makes sense to re-use the

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Proposal for new heat-core member

2013-10-29 Thread Steve Baker
I count enough core +1s. Congrats Randall, well deserved! On 10/26/2013 08:12 AM, Steven Dake wrote: Hi, I would like to propose Randall Burt for Heat Core. He has shown interest in Heat by participating in IRC and providing high quality reviews. The most important aspect in my mind of

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Blueprint review process

2013-10-29 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 10/28/2013 10:28 AM, Russell Bryant wrote: 2) Setting clearer expectations. Since we have so many blueprints for Nova, I feel it's very important to accurately set expectations for how the priority of different projects compare. In the last cycle, priorities were mainly subjectively set

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][scheduler] Instance Group Model and APIs - Updated document with an example request payload

2013-10-29 Thread Mike Spreitzer
John Garbutt j...@johngarbutt.com wrote on 10/29/2013 07:29:19 AM: ... Its looking good, but I was thinking about a slightly different approach: * I would like to see instance groups be used to describe all scheduler hints (including, please run on cell X, or please run on hypervisor Y) I

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [neutron] PCI pass-through network support

2013-10-29 Thread Jiang, Yunhong
Your explanation of the virtual network and physical network is quite clear and should work well. We need change nova code to achieve it, including get the physical network for the virtual network, passing the physical network requirement to the filter properties etc. For your port method, so

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [neutron] PCI pass-through network support

2013-10-29 Thread Jiang, Yunhong
Henry,why do you think the service VM need the entire PF instead of a VF? I think the SR-IOV NIC should provide QoS and performance isolation. As to assign entire PCI device to a guest, that should be ok since usually PF and VF has different device ID, the tricky thing is, at least for some PCI

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][scheduler] Instance Group Model and APIs - Updated document with an example request payload

2013-10-29 Thread Mike Spreitzer
I should clarify my comment about invoking Heat to do the orchestration. I think we have a choice between designing a 1-stage API vs a 2-stage API. The 2-stage API goes like this: first the client defines the top-level group and everything inside it, then the client makes more calls to create

[openstack-dev] HK Neutron Icehouse Design Meetings

2013-10-29 Thread Hemanth Ravi
Hi, Is there a schedule published for the Neutron Icehouse design meetings listed at http://summit.openstack.org/ Thanks, -hemanth ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][scheduler] Instance Group Model and APIs - Updated document with an example request payload

2013-10-29 Thread Russell Bryant
On 10/29/2013 04:32 PM, Mike Spreitzer wrote: I should clarify my comment about invoking Heat to do the orchestration. I think we have a choice between designing a 1-stage API vs a 2-stage API. The 2-stage API goes like this: first the client defines the top-level group and everything inside

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] Propose Jay Bryant for core

2013-10-29 Thread John Griffith
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 2:54 PM, John Griffith john.griff...@solidfire.com wrote: Hey, I wanted to propose Jay Bryant (AKA jsbryant, AKA jungleboy, AKA :) ) for core membership on the Cinder team. Jay has been working on Cinder for a while now and has really shown some dedication and

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Blueprint review process

2013-10-29 Thread Russell Bryant
On 10/29/2013 04:24 PM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: On 10/28/2013 10:28 AM, Russell Bryant wrote: 2) Setting clearer expectations. Since we have so many blueprints for Nova, I feel it's very important to accurately set expectations for how the priority of different projects compare. In the last

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Support for external authentication (i.e. REMOTE_USER) in Havana

2013-10-29 Thread Adam Young
On 10/29/2013 12:18 PM, Tim Bell wrote: We also need some standardisation on the command line options for the client portion (such as --os-auth-method, --os-x509-cert etc.) . Unfortunately, this is not yet in Oslo so there would be multiple packages to be enhanced. There is a OS client talk on

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][scheduler] Instance Group Model and APIs - Updated document with an example request payload

2013-10-29 Thread Andrew Laski
On 10/29/13 at 04:05pm, Mike Spreitzer wrote: Alex Glikson glik...@il.ibm.com wrote on 10/29/2013 03:37:41 AM: 1. I assume that the motivation for rack-level anti-affinity is to survive a rack failure. Is this indeed the case? This is a very interesting and important scenario, but I am curious

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