[openstack-dev] tenant or project

2013-11-23 Thread Christopher Yeoh
Hi, So in the past we've used both tenant and project to refer to the same thing and I think its been a source of confusion for people new to OpenStack. In the Nova code we use both, but at least for the API we've been trying to consistently present to the client tenant (which is the majority

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] V3 API Review Checklist and style guide

2013-11-23 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 11:41:16 + John Garbutt j...@johngarbutt.com wrote: On 19 November 2013 11:40, Christopher Yeoh cbky...@gmail.com wrote: I've updated the Nova review check list with some details for reviewing V3 API changesets and started a bit of a style guide for the API.

Re: [openstack-dev] tenant or project

2013-11-23 Thread Nick Chase
From a purely documentation and explanatory standpoint I vote for project, if we're going to standardize on one or the other. On Nov 23, 2013 7:13 AM, Christopher Yeoh cbky...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, So in the past we've used both tenant and project to refer to the same thing and I think its

Re: [openstack-dev] [Oslo] Improving oslo-incubator update.py

2013-11-23 Thread Sandy Walsh
Seeing this thread reminded me: We need support in the update script for entry points in olso setup.cfg to make their way into the target project. So, if update is getting some love, please keep that in mind. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Proposal to add Matt Riedemann to nova-core

2013-11-23 Thread Sean Dague
+1 would be happy to have Matt on the team On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Brian Elliott bdelli...@gmail.com wrote: +1 Solid reviewer! Sent from my iPad On Nov 22, 2013, at 2:53 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: Greetings, I would like to propose adding Matt Riedemann to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Proposal to add Matt Riedemann to nova-core

2013-11-23 Thread Gary Kotton
+1 On 11/23/13 4:53 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: +1 would be happy to have Matt on the team On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Brian Elliott bdelli...@gmail.com wrote: +1 Solid reviewer! Sent from my iPad On Nov 22, 2013, at 2:53 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] future fate of nova-network?

2013-11-23 Thread Gary Kotton
On 11/22/13 2:47 PM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 11:25:51AM +, John Garbutt wrote: On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: In particular, has there been a decision made about whether it will definitely be

[openstack-dev] Gate failures

2013-11-23 Thread Gary Kotton
Hi, To whoever fixed the gate – Thanks! Can someone please let us know what the problems were. Thanks Gary ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] tenant or project

2013-11-23 Thread Tim Bell
Horizon uses Project in the user interface, yet the openstack.rc file contains tenant_id and tenant_name. It makes it very difficult to write user guides given that such a fundamental concept has two names. No problem to maintain compatibility (i.e. try OS_TENANT_NAME after OS_PROJECT_NAME)

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Working group on language packs

2013-11-23 Thread Clayton Coleman
On Nov 23, 2013, at 2:37 AM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Clayton Coleman's message of 2013-11-22 21:43:40 -0800: On Nov 22, 2013, at 9:54 PM, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com wrote: On 11/22/2013 11:34 AM, Clayton Coleman wrote: I have updated the language

Re: [openstack-dev] [Oslo] Improving oslo-incubator update.py

2013-11-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
Thanks for the reminder, Sandy. https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo/+bug/1254300 On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Sandy Walsh sandy.wa...@rackspace.comwrote: Seeing this thread reminded me: We need support in the update script for entry points in olso setup.cfg to make their way into the

Re: [openstack-dev] Gate failures

2013-11-23 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Gary, There's a blow-by-blow account in this etherpad - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/critical-patches-gatecrash-November-2013 On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Gary Kotton gkot...@vmware.com wrote: Hi, To whoever fixed the gate – Thanks! Can someone please let us know what the problems

Re: [openstack-dev] tenant or project

2013-11-23 Thread Nathan Kinder
On 11/23/2013 08:28 AM, Tim Bell wrote: Horizon uses Project in the user interface, yet the openstack.rc file contains tenant_id and tenant_name. It makes it very difficult to write user guides given that such a fundamental concept has two names. +1. I struggled with this

Re: [openstack-dev] tenant or project

2013-11-23 Thread Dolph Mathews
+1 for using the term project across all services. Projects provide multi-tenant isolation for resources across the cloud. Part of the reason we prefer projects in keystone is that domains conceptually provide multi-tenant isolation within keystone itself, so the overloaded tenant terminology gets

Re: [openstack-dev] tenant or project

2013-11-23 Thread Dean Troyer
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Dolph Mathews dolph.math...@gmail.comwrote: +1 for using the term project across all services. Projects provide multi-tenant isolation for resources across the cloud. Part of the reason we prefer projects in keystone is that domains conceptually provide

Re: [openstack-dev] Gate failures

2013-11-23 Thread Joe Gordon
sent on the go On Nov 23, 2013 9:02 AM, Davanum Srinivas dava...@gmail.com wrote: Gary, There's a blow-by-blow account in this etherpad - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/critical-patches-gatecrash-November-2013 On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Gary Kotton gkot...@vmware.com wrote: Hi,

Re: [openstack-dev] tenant or project

2013-11-23 Thread Tim Bell
To be clear, I don't care Tenant vs Project. However, I do care that we should not continue this confusion. One or the other... but not both and a plan to depreciate the other. Naturally, at least 1 release backwards compatibility for environment variables or APIs. Tim From: Dean Troyer

Re: [openstack-dev] tenant or project

2013-11-23 Thread Caitlin Bestler
On November 23, 2013 4:09:49 AM Christopher Yeoh cbky...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, So in the past we've used both tenant and project to refer to the same thing and I think its been a source of confusion for people new to OpenStack. In the Nova code we use both, but at least for the API we've been

[openstack-dev] [nova] who wants to own docker bug triage?

2013-11-23 Thread Matt Riedemann
Going through nova bug triage today I noticed a pretty straight-forward untagged bug for docker but then noticed we didn't have a docker tag in our bug tag table [1]. I went ahead and added one and the queries show a decent number of results, so people were already using the tag. The

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] who wants to own docker bug triage?

2013-11-23 Thread Robert Collins
Cool; also, if it's not, we should add that as an official tag so that it type-completes in LP. On 24 November 2013 10:21, Matt Riedemann mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: Going through nova bug triage today I noticed a pretty straight-forward untagged bug for docker but then noticed we didn't

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] future fate of nova-network?

2013-11-23 Thread Robert Collins
On 23 November 2013 05:32, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 11:24:18AM -0500, Russell Bryant wrote: A good example is the current discussion around a new scheduling service. There have been lots of big ideas around this. Robert Collins just started a

Re: [openstack-dev] tenant or project

2013-11-23 Thread Dolph Mathews
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Caitlin Bestler caitlin.best...@nexenta.com wrote: On November 23, 2013 4:09:49 AM Christopher Yeoh cbky...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, So in the past we've used both tenant and project to refer to the same thing and I think its been a source of confusion for

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Working group on language packs

2013-11-23 Thread Robert Collins
On 24 November 2013 05:42, Clayton Coleman ccole...@redhat.com wrote: Containers will work fine in diskimage-builder. One only needs to hack in the ability to save in the container image format rather than qcow2. That's good to know. Will diskimage-builder be able to break those down into

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Oslo] Future of Key Distribution Server, Trusted Messaging

2013-11-23 Thread Adam Young
On 11/22/2013 01:49 PM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Fri, 2013-11-22 at 11:04 +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: Russell Bryant wrote: [...] I'm not thrilled about the prospect of this going into a new project for multiple reasons. - Given the priority and how long this has been dragging out, having

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Working group on language packs

2013-11-23 Thread Adrian Otto
On Nov 23, 2013, at 2:39 PM, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: On 24 November 2013 05:42, Clayton Coleman ccole...@redhat.com wrote: Containers will work fine in diskimage-builder. One only needs to hack in the ability to save in the container image format rather than qcow2.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Working group on language packs

2013-11-23 Thread Robert Collins
Ok, so no - diskimage-builder builds regular OpenStack full disk disk images. Translating that to a filesystem is easy; doing a diff against another filesystem version is also doable, and if the container service for Nova understands such partial container contents you could certainly glue it all

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] who wants to own docker bug triage?

2013-11-23 Thread Matt Riedemann
On Saturday, November 23, 2013 3:28:28 PM, Robert Collins wrote: Cool; also, if it's not, we should add that as an official tag so that it type-completes in LP. On 24 November 2013 10:21, Matt Riedemann mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: Going through nova bug triage today I noticed a pretty

Re: [openstack-dev] tenant or project

2013-11-23 Thread Caitlin Bestler
I have seen several people request that their users be members of two projects and that they be allow to publish objects that are Shared by multiple projects. For some reason the people who request these complex data constructions always prefer to call the enclosing entity a project. I have

Re: [openstack-dev] tenant or project

2013-11-23 Thread Morgan Fainberg
In all honesty it doesn't matter which term we go with. As long as we are consistent and define the meaning. I think we can argue intuitive vs non-intuitive in this case unto the ground. I prefer project to tenant, but beyond being a bit of an overloaded term, I really don't think anyone will