Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Heat] How to reliably detect VM failures?

2014-03-19 Thread Amit Ugol
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 10:54:08PM +0800, Qiming Teng wrote: Hi, Folks, I have been trying to implement a HACluster resource type in Heat. I haven't created a BluePrint for this because I am not sure everything will work as expected. The basic idea is to extend the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Heat] How to reliably detect VM failures?

2014-03-19 Thread Chris Friesen
On 03/18/2014 11:18 AM, Zane Bitter wrote: On 18/03/14 12:42, Steven Dake wrote: You should be able to use the HARestarter resource and functionality to do healthchecking of a vm. HARestarter is actually pretty problematic, both in a causes major architectural headaches for Heat and will

[openstack-dev] [sahara] Successfully graduated from incubation! [savanna]

2014-03-19 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
Hey folks, I'm glad to announce that we've successfully graduated from incubation and we'll be part of the integrated Juno release! There are no raised issues and concerns while review and it's really important too. You can find graduation review meeting logs [0] and voting [1]. Thank you. [0]

Re: [openstack-dev] [Marconi] Why is marconi a queue implementation vs a provisioning API?

2014-03-19 Thread Stan Lagun
Kurt Griffiths, Thanks for detailed explanation. Is there a comparison between Marconi and existing message brokers anywhere that you can point me out? I can see how your examples can be implemented using other brokers like RabbitMQ. So why there is a need another broker? And what is wrong with

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Requirements Wiki

2014-03-19 Thread Oleg Bondarev
Hi Jorge, Thanks for taking care of this and bringing it all together! This will be really useful for LBaaS discussions. I updated the wiki to include L7 rules support and also marking already implemented requirements. Thanks, Oleg On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 2:57 AM, Jorge Miramontes

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] advanced servicevm framework IRC meeting March 18(Tuesday) 23:00 UTC

2014-03-19 Thread balaj...@freescale.com
Hi Isaku Yamahata, Can you please share the meeting details. Regards, Balaji.P From: Mohammad Banikazemi [mailto:m...@us.ibm.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:31 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: isaku.yamah...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [openstack-dev]

Re: [openstack-dev] [Mistral] Actions design BP

2014-03-19 Thread Renat Akhmerov
On 19 Mar 2014, at 02:08, Joshua Harlow harlo...@yahoo-inc.com wrote: is mistral planning doing this, throwing way the POC and rewriting it as a non-POC using the ideas learned from the POC?)[http://tinyurl.com/lbz293s]. Yes, if needed. I don’t think it’s too important and I agree that

[openstack-dev] [Openstack-dev] [Nova] use Keystone V3 token to volume attachment

2014-03-19 Thread Shao Kai SK Li
Hello: I am working on this patch(https://review.openstack.org/#/c/77524/) to fix bugs about volume attach failure with keystone V3 token. Just wonder, is there some blue prints or plans in Juno to address keystone V3 support in nova ? Thanks you in advance. Best Regards~~~

Re: [openstack-dev] UTF-8 required charset/encoding for openstack database?

2014-03-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2014-03-18 15:08:36 -0700: On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Ben Nemec openst...@nemebean.com wrote: On 2014-03-10 12:24, Chris Friesen wrote: Hi, I'm using havana and recent we ran into an issue with heat related to character sets. In

[openstack-dev] [Neutron] advanced servicevm framework: meeting time slot proposal 5:00UTC (Tue) and minutes (was Re: [Neutron] advanced servicevm framework IRC meeting March 18(Tuesday) 23:00 UTC)

2014-03-19 Thread Isaku Yamahata
* Time slot Weekly Tuesday 5:00UTC- Next meeting: March 24, 5:00UTC- Since there were many requests for new time slots, the proposed time slot at the meeting is 5:00UTC. The related timezones are JST(UTC+9), IST(UTC+5.30), CED(UTC+1), EST(UTC-5), PDT(UTC-7), PST(UTC-8) Hope it's easy for the

[openstack-dev] Disaster Recovery for OpenStack - call for stakeholder - discussion reminder

2014-03-19 Thread Ronen Kat
For those who are interested we will discuss the disaster recovery use-cases and how to proceed toward the Juno summit on March 19 at 17:00 UTC (invitation below) Call-in: https://www.teleconference.att.com/servlet/glbAccess?process=1accessCode=6406941accessNumber=1809417783#C2 Passcode:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer][QA][Tempest][Infra] Ceilometer tempest testing in gate

2014-03-19 Thread Nadya Privalova
Ok, so we don't want to switch to UCA, let's consider this variant. What options do we have to make possible to run Ceilometer jobs with Mongo backend? I see only https://review.openstack.org/#/c/81001/ or making Ceilometer able to work with old Mongo. But the last variant looks inappropriate at

[openstack-dev] [qa][Nova] Update: Nova v2/v3 API List for Missing Tempest Tests

2014-03-19 Thread Masayuki Igawa
Hi, Thanks many guys for updating these spreadsheets! I have updated: Nova API List for Missing Tempest Tests. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmYuZ6T4IJETdEVNTWlYVUVOWURmOERSZ0VGc1BBQWc The summary of these spreadsheets: - Nova V2 APIs

Re: [openstack-dev] [Murano][Heat] MuranoPL questions?

2014-03-19 Thread Stan Lagun
Steven, Agree with your opinion on HOT expansion. I see that inclusion of imperative workflows and ALM would require major Heat redesign and probably would be impossible without loosing compatibility with previous HOT syntax. It would blur Heat mission, confuse current users and rise a lot of

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Cinder] Feature about Raw Device Mapping

2014-03-19 Thread Zhangleiqiang (Trump)
From: Huang Zhiteng [mailto:winsto...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:14 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Cinder] Feature about Raw Device Mapping On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Zhangleiqiang (Trump)

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.messaging] [zeromq] nova-rpc-zmq-receiver bottleneck

2014-03-19 Thread yatin kumbhare
Hi Mike, Thanks for your feedback. I'm not aware on the details of ceilometer messaging. Would please point out on messaging behaviors that are desirable for ceilometer currently and possibly other things in the future? This will help me in evaluating my idea further. Regards, Yatin On Sat,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Murano][Heat] MuranoPL questions?

2014-03-19 Thread Renat Akhmerov
On 19 Mar 2014, at 16:00, Stan Lagun sla...@mirantis.com wrote: We want application authors to be able to express application deployment and maintenance logic of any complexity. This may involve communication with 3rd party REST services (APIs of applications being deployed, external

[openstack-dev] [nova] add configuration item to set virtual machine swapfile location

2014-03-19 Thread Yuzhou (C)
Hi everyone, Currently, disk.swap(the swapfile of instance) is created on the instances_path(deflaut : /var/lib/nova/instances/vm-uuid). Maybe we should add configuration item in nova.conf to set virtual machine swapfile location. With such a feature enabled, swapfiles can be

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] add configuration item to set virtual machine swapfile location

2014-03-19 Thread Chen CH Ji
if it's local disk to host , +1 since we might get better performance btw, the base file is in /var/lib/nova/instances/_base/swap_xxx, also need to be considered Best Regards! Kevin (Chen) Ji 纪 晨 Engineer, zVM Development, CSTL Notes: Chen CH Ji/China/IBM@IBMCN Internet: jiche...@cn.ibm.com

Re: [openstack-dev] Icehouse dependency freeze

2014-03-19 Thread Thierry Carrez
Thomas Goirand wrote: We're now 1 month away from the scheduled release date. It is my strong opinion (as the main Debian OpenStack package maintainer) that for the last Havana release, the freeze of dependency happened really too late, creating issues hard to deal with on the packaging side.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Marconi] Why is marconi a queue implementation vs a provisioning API?

2014-03-19 Thread Flavio Percoco
Kurt already gave a quite detailed explanation of why Marconi, what can you do with it and where it's standing. I'll reply in-line: On 19/03/14 10:17 +1300, Robert Collins wrote: So this came up briefly at the tripleo sprint, and since I can't seem to find a /why/ document

Re: [openstack-dev] Updating libvirt in gate jobs

2014-03-19 Thread Sean Dague
On 03/18/2014 08:15 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net mailto:s...@dague.net wrote: On 03/18/2014 10:11 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 07:50:15AM -0400, Davanum Srinivas wrote: Hi Team, We

Re: [openstack-dev] Pecan Evaluation for Marconi

2014-03-19 Thread Thierry Carrez
Kurt Griffiths wrote: Kudos to Balaji for working so hard on this. I really appreciate his candid feedback on both frameworks. Indeed, that analysis is very much appreciated. From the Technical Committee perspective, we put a high weight on a factor that was not included in the report

[openstack-dev] [openstack][Mistral] Adding new core reviewers

2014-03-19 Thread Renat Akhmerov
Team, So far I’ve been just the only one core member of the team. I started feeling lonely :) Since the project team and the project itself has now grown (thanks to StackStorm and Intel) I think it’s time to think about extending the core team. I would propose: Nikolay Makhotkin (nmakhotkin

[openstack-dev] [Nova][SDK] What Nova APIs are used by SDKs

2014-03-19 Thread Kenichi Oomichi
Hi, We need to know what Nova APIs are used by each SDK. Could SDK developers/users/someone write them on the below spreadsheet? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvimqlvxcSGGdGxYSVJQb2tic25wUmFkcDJFV25OSUE#gid=2 I have written SDK names on the spreadsheet from

Re: [openstack-dev] [Marconi] Why is marconi a queue implementation vs a provisioning API?

2014-03-19 Thread Thierry Carrez
Flavio Percoco wrote: On 19/03/14 10:17 +1300, Robert Collins wrote: My desires around Marconi are: - to make sure the queue we have is suitable for use by OpenStack itself: we have a very strong culture around consolidating technology choices, and it would be extremely odd to have Marconi be

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Docs for new plugins

2014-03-19 Thread Anne Gentle
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:45 AM, Edgar Magana emag...@plumgrid.com wrote: Including Anne in this thread. Anne, Can your provide your input here? Thanks, Edgar From: Mohammad Banikazemi m...@us.ibm.com Reply-To: OpenStack List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: Monday, March 17,

[openstack-dev] [Nova] First time contributing to some project

2014-03-19 Thread Dharmit Shah
Hello Stackers, This is the first time I am mailing some dev mailing list and first time I am trying to contribute on some open source project. I am working on a low-hanging-fruit bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1261909). It's about removing hba specific code from nova as cinder

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Cinder] Feature about Raw Device Mapping

2014-03-19 Thread zhangleiqiang
After second thought, it will be more meaningful to just add virtio-SCSI bus type support to block-device-mapping. RDM can then be used or not, depend on the bus type and device type of bdm specified by user. And user can also just use virtio-SCSI bus for performance other than pass

Re: [openstack-dev] [Marconi] Why is marconi a queue implementation vs a provisioning API?

2014-03-19 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Wed, 2014-03-19 at 10:17 +1300, Robert Collins wrote: So this came up briefly at the tripleo sprint, and since I can't seem to find a /why/ document (https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Marconi/Incubation#Raised_Questions_.2B_Answers and https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Marconi#Design don't

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Subteam meeting Thursday, 14-00 UTC

2014-03-19 Thread Eugene Nikanorov
Hi neutron and lbaas folks, Let's keep our regular meeting on Thursday, at 14-00 UTC at #openstack-meeting Jorge Miramontes has made a nice wiki page capturing service requirements: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/LBaaS/requirements Please check it out as this will help us to get on the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Marconi] Why is marconi a queue implementation vs a provisioning API?

2014-03-19 Thread Russell Bryant
On 03/19/2014 07:49 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Flavio Percoco wrote: On 19/03/14 10:17 +1300, Robert Collins wrote: My desires around Marconi are: - to make sure the queue we have is suitable for use by OpenStack itself: we have a very strong culture around consolidating technology choices,

[openstack-dev] [QA] Bug Day kickoff

2014-03-19 Thread Mauro S M Rodrigues
Morning QA Team, I hope everybody can help on this effort so we can release icehouse with less bugs as possible. So this morning, March, 19th, 12:00 UTC the current tempest's bug picture is Current picture of Tempest's bugs: * 166 Open Bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bugs - 17

Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack][Mistral] Adding new core reviewers

2014-03-19 Thread Stan Lagun
+1 for both On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Renat Akhmerov rakhme...@mirantis.comwrote: Team, So far I've been just the only one core member of the team. I started feeling lonely :) Since the project team and the project itself has now grown (thanks to StackStorm and Intel) I think it's

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Requirements Wiki

2014-03-19 Thread Ryan O'Hara
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 10:57:15PM +, Jorge Miramontes wrote: Hey Neutron LBaaS folks, Per last week's IRC meeting I have created a preliminary requirements use case wiki page. I requested adding such a page since there appears to be a lot of new interest in load balancing and feel that

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Requirements Wiki

2014-03-19 Thread Eugene Nikanorov
Hi Jorge, Thanks for taking care of the page. I've added priorities, although I'm not sure we need precise priority weights. Those features that still have '?' need further clarification. Thanks, Eugene. On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Oleg Bondarev obonda...@mirantis.comwrote: Hi Jorge,

[openstack-dev] [Nova][Heat] How to reliably detect VM failures? (Zane Bitter)

2014-03-19 Thread WICKES, ROGER
On 03/18/2014 07:54 AM, Qiming Teng wrote: Hi, Folks, I have been trying to implement a HACluster resource type in Heat. I haven't created a BluePrint for this because I am not sure everything will work as expected. ... The most difficult issue here is to come up with a reliable VM

[openstack-dev] WSGI and Python paste

2014-03-19 Thread victor stinner
Hi, According to the following table, paste is blocking many OpenStack servers to be ported to Python 3: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Python3#Core_OpenStack_projects The author of paste, Ian Bicking, gave me the commit permission to paste. I integrated patches from Debian and my

Re: [openstack-dev] [magnetodb] Using gevent in MagnetoDB. OpenStack standards and approaches

2014-03-19 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Dmitriy Ukhlov dukh...@mirantis.comwrote: Hello openstackers, We are working on MagnetoDB project and trying our best to follow OpenStack standards. So, MagnetoDB is aimed to be high performance scalable OpenStack based WSGI application which provide

Re: [openstack-dev] Automatic version creation in PBR

2014-03-19 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com wrote: On 03/18/2014 04:25 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Robert Collins wrote: If you set 'version' in setup.cfg, pbr's behaviour will not change at all. If you do not set 'version' in setup.cfg then: - for tagged commits,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] First time contributing to some project

2014-03-19 Thread yang, xing
Hi Dharmit, You can't remove those from Nova. If you remove them, attach volume won't work anymore. Attach volume still goes through Nova. Thanks, Xing -Original Message- From: Dharmit Shah [mailto:dharmit@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 8:03 AM To:

Re: [openstack-dev] WSGI and Python paste

2014-03-19 Thread Jay Pipes
On Wed, 2014-03-19 at 14:25 +0100, victor stinner wrote: Hi, According to the following table, paste is blocking many OpenStack servers to be ported to Python 3: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Python3#Core_OpenStack_projects The author of paste, Ian Bicking, gave me the commit

Re: [openstack-dev] Pecan Evaluation for Marconi

2014-03-19 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 19/03/14 12:31 +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: Kurt Griffiths wrote: Kudos to Balaji for working so hard on this. I really appreciate his candid feedback on both frameworks. Indeed, that analysis is very much appreciated. From the Technical Committee perspective, we put a high weight on a

Re: [openstack-dev] Pecan Evaluation for Marconi

2014-03-19 Thread Kurt Griffiths
Thierry Carrez wrote: There was historically a lot of deviation, but as we add more projects that deviation is becoming more costly. I totally understand the benefits of reducing the variance between projects, and to be sure, I am not suggesting we have 10 different libraries to do X. However,

Re: [openstack-dev] Pecan Evaluation for Marconi

2014-03-19 Thread Donald Stufft
On Mar 19, 2014, at 10:18 AM, Kurt Griffiths kurt.griffi...@rackspace.com wrote: Thierry Carrez wrote: There was historically a lot of deviation, but as we add more projects that deviation is becoming more costly. I totally understand the benefits of reducing the variance between

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-dev] [Nova] use Keystone V3 token to volume attachment

2014-03-19 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 3/19/2014 2:48 AM, Shao Kai SK Li wrote: Hello: I am working on this patch(https://review.openstack.org/#/c/77524/) to fix bugs about volume attach failure with keystone V3 token. Just wonder, is there some blue prints or plans in Juno to address keystone V3 support in nova ?

[openstack-dev] Timeline for upcoming PTL and TC elections

2014-03-19 Thread Anita Kuno
Election season is coming up. In the next weeks we'll renew our PTLs (one for each OpenStack program) and 7 Technical Committee members. The timeline for those elections is as follows: * March 28 - April 4, 05:59 UTC: Open candidacy to PTL positions * April 4 - April 11: PTL elections * April 11

Re: [openstack-dev] Pecan Evaluation for Marconi

2014-03-19 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 7:31 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.orgwrote: Kurt Griffiths wrote: Kudos to Balaji for working so hard on this. I really appreciate his candid feedback on both frameworks. Indeed, that analysis is very much appreciated. From the Technical Committee

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] First time contributing to some project

2014-03-19 Thread Jay Pipes
On Wed, 2014-03-19 at 17:33 +0530, Dharmit Shah wrote: Hello Stackers, This is the first time I am mailing some dev mailing list and first time I am trying to contribute on some open source project. Welcome, Dharmit, nice to have you in our community! :) I am working on a low-hanging-fruit

[openstack-dev] [sahara] Canceling team meeting Mar 20 [savanna]

2014-03-19 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
Hi team, I'm canceling team meeting tomorrow, Mar 20, because there will be no quorum - Mirantis team will be unavailable due to the internal company event, Matt F. said that he'll be unavailable too. Thanks. -- Sincerely yours, Sergey Lukjanov Sahara Technical Lead (OpenStack Data Processing)

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Docs for new plugins

2014-03-19 Thread Edgar Magana
Thanks for the input Anne! Kyle, Please file the proper bugs in the manual projects to be able to track the progress of this topic. Thanks, Edgar From: Anne Gentle a...@openstack.org Date: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 4:54 AM To: Edgar Magana emag...@plumgrid.com Cc: OpenStack List

Re: [openstack-dev] Pecan Evaluation for Marconi

2014-03-19 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 19/03/14 12:31 +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: Kurt Griffiths wrote: Kudos to Balaji for working so hard on this. I really appreciate his candid feedback on both frameworks. Indeed, that analysis is very much

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-dev] [Nova] use Keystone V3 token to volume attachment

2014-03-19 Thread Matthew Treinish
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 09:35:34AM -0500, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 3/19/2014 2:48 AM, Shao Kai SK Li wrote: Hello: I am working on this patch(https://review.openstack.org/#/c/77524/) to fix bugs about volume attach failure with keystone V3 token. Just wonder, is there

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Getting close to RC1....

2014-03-19 Thread Ben Nemec
Please don't send review requests to the list: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-September/015264.html Thanks. -Ben On 2014-03-18 22:46, wu jiang wrote: Hi Tracy, I've already updated the patch for bug/1195947 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/38073/ [18].

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][OVS Agent]

2014-03-19 Thread Nader Lahouti
Thanks Mathieu for your reply and info. On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 3:35 AM, Mathieu Rohon mathieu.ro...@gmail.comwrote: Hi nader, The easiest way would be to register a new RPC callback in the current ovs agent. This is what we have done for the l2-pop MD, with fdb_add and fdb_remove

Re: [openstack-dev] Pecan Evaluation for Marconi

2014-03-19 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 19/03/14 11:20 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: My only concern in this case - I'm not sure if this has been discussed or written somewhere - is to define what the boundaries of that divergence are. For instance,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Docs for new plugins

2014-03-19 Thread Kyle Mestery
I opened this bug Edgar: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1294726 On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Edgar Magana emag...@plumgrid.com wrote: Thanks for the input Anne! Kyle, Please file the proper bugs in the manual projects to be able to track the progress of this

Re: [openstack-dev] [Congress] Policy types

2014-03-19 Thread Tim Hinrichs
Inline. Tim - Original Message - | From: prabhakar Kudva nandava...@hotmail.com | To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org | Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 7:09:24 AM | Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Congress] Policy types | |

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Alternating meeting time for more TZ friendliness

2014-03-19 Thread Sullivan, Jon Paul
From: James Slagle [mailto:james.sla...@gmail.com] Sent: 18 March 2014 19:58 Subject: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Alternating meeting time for more TZ friendliness Our current meeting time is Tuesdays at 19:00 UTC. I think this works ok for most folks in and around North America. It was

[openstack-dev] [php-sdk] Action items from today's meeting

2014-03-19 Thread Shaunak Kashyap
Thanks for the great meeting today. Here are the action items that came out of it: - [Shaunak] Look into mailing list for user support. How do other OpenStack projects do this? - [Shaunak] Make trivial change to repo to learn OpenStack contribution process - [Jamie] Look into PHPSpec vs. PHPUnit

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] advanced servicevm framework: meeting time slot proposal 5:00UTC (Tue) and minutes (was Re: [Neutron] advanced servicevm framework IRC meeting March 18(Tuesday) 23:00 UTC

2014-03-19 Thread Stephen Wong
Hi Mohammad, I am sorry to say that the new schedule is indeed 1am EST... - Stephen On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Mohammad Banikazemi m...@us.ibm.com wrote: Isaku Yamahata isaku.yamah...@gmail.com wrote on 03/19/2014 04:38:34 AM: From: Isaku Yamahata isaku.yamah...@gmail.com To:

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][policy] Integrating network policies and network services

2014-03-19 Thread Louis.Fourie
Mohammad, Agree, the information models for these two proposals are very similar. It appears that the ODL model offers some additional flexibility in that direction attributes are attached to Classifiers and Directives rather than Policies in the Openstack model. Maybe the authors can

Re: [openstack-dev] [Murano][Heat] MuranoPL questions?

2014-03-19 Thread Zane Bitter
On 19/03/14 05:00, Stan Lagun wrote: Steven, Agree with your opinion on HOT expansion. I see that inclusion of imperative workflows and ALM would require major Heat redesign and probably would be impossible without loosing compatibility with previous HOT syntax. It would blur Heat mission,

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][policy] Integrating network policies and network services

2014-03-19 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Louis.Fourie louis.fou...@huawei.comwrote: Mohammad, Agree, the information models for these two proposals are very similar. It appears that the ODL model offers some additional flexibility in that direction attributes are attached to Classifiers and

Re: [openstack-dev] Pecan Evaluation for Marconi

2014-03-19 Thread Mike Perez
On 03/19/2014 08:20 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: As I understand it, all of the integrated projects have looked at Pecan, and are anticipating the transition. Most have no reason to create a new API version, and therefore build a new API service to avoid introducing incompatibilities by rebuilding

Re: [openstack-dev] WSGI and Python paste

2014-03-19 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 03/19/2014 09:25 PM, victor stinner wrote: Hi, According to the following table, paste is blocking many OpenStack servers to be ported to Python 3: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Python3 I had a look to this, and found it weird that ironicclient is marked as supporting Python3,

Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack][Mistral] Adding new core reviewers

2014-03-19 Thread Manas Kelshikar
+1 On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 5:33 AM, Stan Lagun sla...@mirantis.com wrote: +1 for both On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Renat Akhmerov rakhme...@mirantis.comwrote: Team, So far I've been just the only one core member of the team. I started feeling lonely :) Since the project team and

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][rootwrap] Performance considerations, sudo?

2014-03-19 Thread Miguel Angel Ajo
An advance on the changes that it's requiring to have a py-c++ compiled rootwrap as a mitigation POC for havana/icehouse. https://github.com/mangelajo/shedskin.rootwrap/commit/e4167a6491dfbc71e2d0f6e28ba93bc8a1dd66c0 The current translation output is included. It looks like doable (almost

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Heat] How to reliably detect VM failures?

2014-03-19 Thread Zane Bitter
On 19/03/14 02:07, Chris Friesen wrote: On 03/18/2014 11:18 AM, Zane Bitter wrote: On 18/03/14 12:42, Steven Dake wrote: You should be able to use the HARestarter resource and functionality to do healthchecking of a vm. HARestarter is actually pretty problematic, both in a causes major

Re: [openstack-dev] Storing license information in openstack/requirements

2014-03-19 Thread Joshua Harlow
I started the following. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/81589 Please feel free to check it out, most of this information we can get from pypi itself via its apis. -Josh From: David Koo kpublicm...@gmail.commailto:kpublicm...@gmail.com Reply-To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Requirements Wiki

2014-03-19 Thread Samuel Bercovici
+1 -Original Message- From: Ryan O'Hara [mailto:roh...@redhat.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 2:37 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Requirements Wiki On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 10:57:15PM +, Jorge

Re: [openstack-dev] Pecan Evaluation for Marconi

2014-03-19 Thread Kurt Griffiths
Only one project is using swob, and it is unlikely that will change. That begs the question, *why* is that unlikely to change? Is it because there are fundamental needs that are not met by Pecan? If I understand the original charter for Oslo, it was to consolidate code already in use by projects

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Requirements Wiki

2014-03-19 Thread Jorge Miramontes
Oleg, thanks for the updates. Eugene, High/Medium/Low is fine with me. I really just wanted to find a way to rank even amongst all of 'X' priorities. As people start adding more items we may need more columns to add things such as this, links to blueprints (per Ryan's idea), etc. In terms of

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Alternating meeting time for more TZ friendliness

2014-03-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sullivan, Jon Paul's message of 2014-03-19 09:26:44 -0700: From: James Slagle [mailto:james.sla...@gmail.com] Sent: 18 March 2014 19:58 Subject: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Alternating meeting time for more TZ friendliness Our current meeting time is Tuesdays at 19:00 UTC.

Re: [openstack-dev] Pecan Evaluation for Marconi

2014-03-19 Thread Julien Danjou
On Wed, Mar 19 2014, Donald Stufft wrote: I’m not sure that “number of dependencies” is a useful metric at all tbh. At the very least it’s not a very telling metric in the way it was presented in the review. […] +1000 Seriously, this in itself just discredits any value in this analysis

Re: [openstack-dev] [Marconi] Why is marconi a queue implementation vs a provisioning API?

2014-03-19 Thread Robert Collins
On 20 March 2014 01:06, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote: I think we need a slight reset on this discussion. The way this email was phrased gives a strong sense of Marconi is a dumb idea, it's going to take a lot to persuade me otherwise. Thanks Mark, thats a great point to make. I

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Proposed Core Reviewer Changes

2014-03-19 Thread Adrian Otto
Solum Cores, Thanks for your input. The proposed changes have been applied. Thanks, Adrian On Mar 17, 2014, at 10:13 PM, Adrian Otto adrian.o...@rackspace.com wrote: Solum Cores, I propose the following changes to the Solum core reviewer team: +gokrokve +julienvey +devdatta-kulkarni

Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack][Mistral] Adding new core reviewers

2014-03-19 Thread Timur Nurlygayanov
+1 from me. Also, in the future, we can join Kirill Izotov to the core team too. On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Manas Kelshikar ma...@stackstorm.comwrote: +1 On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 5:33 AM, Stan Lagun sla...@mirantis.com wrote: +1 for both On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Renat

Re: [openstack-dev] Pecan Evaluation for Marconi

2014-03-19 Thread Julien Danjou
On Wed, Mar 19 2014, Kurt Griffiths wrote: That begs the question, *why* is that unlikely to change? Because that project is Swift. -- Julien Danjou // Free Software hacker // http://julien.danjou.info signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___

Re: [openstack-dev] [Marconi] Why is marconi a queue implementation vs a provisioning API?

2014-03-19 Thread Devananda van der Veen
Let me start by saying that I want there to be a constructive discussion around all this. I've done my best to keep my tone as non-snarky as I could while still clearly stating my concerns. I've also spent a few hours reviewing the current code and docs. Hopefully this contribution will be

Re: [openstack-dev] Pecan Evaluation for Marconi

2014-03-19 Thread Russell Bryant
On 03/19/2014 01:47 PM, Mike Perez wrote: On 03/19/2014 08:20 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: As I understand it, all of the integrated projects have looked at Pecan, and are anticipating the transition. Most have no reason to create a new API version, and therefore build a new API service to avoid

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Alternating meeting time for more TZ friendliness

2014-03-19 Thread James Polley
On 20 Mar 2014, at 5:44 am, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Sullivan, Jon Paul's message of 2014-03-19 09:26:44 -0700: From: James Slagle [mailto:james.sla...@gmail.com] Sent: 18 March 2014 19:58 Subject: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Alternating meeting time for more TZ

Re: [openstack-dev] [Murano][Heat] MuranoPL questions?

2014-03-19 Thread Steven Dake
On 03/19/2014 02:00 AM, Stan Lagun wrote: Steven, Agree with your opinion on HOT expansion. I see that inclusion of imperative workflows and ALM would require major Heat redesign and probably would be impossible without loosing compatibility with previous HOT syntax. It would blur Heat

Re: [openstack-dev] [Marconi] Why is marconi a queue implementation vs a provisioning API?

2014-03-19 Thread Fox, Kevin M
Can someone please give more detail into why MongoDB being AGPL is a problem? The drivers that Marconi uses are Apache2 licensed, MongoDB is separated by the network stack and MongoDB is not exposed to the Marconi users so I don't think the 'A' part of the GPL really kicks in at all since the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Murano][Heat] MuranoPL questions?

2014-03-19 Thread Thomas Spatzier
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message on 19/03/2014 18:18:34: From: Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: 19/03/2014 18:21 Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Murano][Heat] MuranoPL questions? On 19/03/14 05:00, Stan Lagun wrote: Steven, Agree with your

Re: [openstack-dev] Pecan Evaluation for Marconi

2014-03-19 Thread Anne Gentle
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Doug Hellmann doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 7:31 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.orgwrote: Kurt Griffiths wrote: Kudos to Balaji for working so hard on this. I really appreciate his candid feedback on both frameworks.

Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack][Mistral] Adding new core reviewers

2014-03-19 Thread Dmitri Zimine
+1 for Nikolay - he's indeed the most involved in all aspect. and yes I am up to doing it. DZ. On Mar 19, 2014, at 4:35 AM, Renat Akhmerov rakhme...@mirantis.com wrote: Team, So far I’ve been just the only one core member of the team. I started feeling lonely :) Since the project team

Re: [openstack-dev] [Murano][Heat] MuranoPL questions?

2014-03-19 Thread Georgy Okrokvertskhov
Hi, I think notification mechanism proposed in Heat will work fine for integration with external workflows. The approach which uses workflows outside of Heat engine sounds consistent with our current approach in Murano. I am looking into new TOSCA yaml format and I also ask Mirantis management

Re: [openstack-dev] [Murano][Heat] MuranoPL questions?

2014-03-19 Thread Stan Lagun
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 11:57 PM, Steven Dake sd...@redhat.com wrote: Now because DSL provides not only a way to write sandboxed isolated code but also a lot of declarations (classes, properties, parameters, inheritance and contracts) that are mostly not present in Python we don't need

Re: [openstack-dev] [Murano][Heat] MuranoPL questions?

2014-03-19 Thread Stan Lagun
Ability to hook up to application deployment is indeed a good thing. And it can be done both in HOT and MuranoPL. And Mistral is a good candidate to handle those hooks. But this is not a replacement for MuranoPL but an addition to it. The problem with hooks is that you cannot hoot just into

Re: [openstack-dev] [Marconi] Why is marconi a queue implementation vs a provisioning API?

2014-03-19 Thread Fox, Kevin M
Its my understanding that the only case the A in the AGPL would kick in is if the cloud provider made a change to MongoDB and exposed the MongoDB instance to users. Then the users would have to be able to download the changed code. Since Marconi's in front, the user is Marconi, and wouldn't

Re: [openstack-dev] [Marconi] Why is marconi a queue implementation vs a provisioning API?

2014-03-19 Thread Chris Friesen
On 03/19/2014 02:24 PM, Fox, Kevin M wrote: Can someone please give more detail into why MongoDB being AGPL is a problem? The drivers that Marconi uses are Apache2 licensed, MongoDB is separated by the network stack and MongoDB is not exposed to the Marconi users so I don't think the 'A' part of

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Alternating meeting time for more TZ friendliness

2014-03-19 Thread James Polley
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 7:00 AM, James Polley j...@jamezpolley.com wrote: On 20 Mar 2014, at 5:44 am, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Sullivan, Jon Paul's message of 2014-03-19 09:26:44 -0700: From: James Slagle [mailto:james.sla...@gmail.com james.sla...@gmail.com ]

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][rootwrap] Performance considerations, sudo?

2014-03-19 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Miguel Angel Ajo majop...@redhat.comwrote: An advance on the changes that it's requiring to have a py-c++ compiled rootwrap as a mitigation POC for havana/icehouse. https://github.com/mangelajo/shedskin.rootwrap/commit/

Re: [openstack-dev] Updating libvirt in gate jobs

2014-03-19 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 3:43 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 03/18/2014 08:15 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net mailto:s...@dague.net wrote: On 03/18/2014 10:11 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer][QA][Tempest][Infra] Ceilometer tempest testing in gate

2014-03-19 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 1:52 AM, Nadya Privalova nprival...@mirantis.comwrote: Ok, so we don't want to switch to UCA, let's consider this variant. What options do we have to make possible to run Ceilometer jobs with Mongo backend? I see only https://review.openstack.org/#/c/81001/ or making

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer][QA][Tempest][Infra] Ceilometer tempest testing in gate

2014-03-19 Thread Doug Hellmann
The ceilometer collector is meant to scale horizontally. Have you tried configuring the test environment to run more than one copy, to process the notifications more quickly? Doug On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 8:09 AM, Nadya Privalova nprival...@mirantis.comwrote: Hi folks, I'd like to discuss

[openstack-dev] [QA] Meeting Thursday March 20th at 22:00UTC

2014-03-19 Thread Matthew Treinish
Just a quick reminder that the weekly OpenStack QA team IRC meeting will be tomorrow Thursday, March 20th at 22:00 UTC in the #openstack-meeting channel. The agenda for tomorrow's meeting can be found here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting Anyone is welcome to add an item to

Re: [openstack-dev] Pecan Evaluation for Marconi

2014-03-19 Thread John Dickinson
On Mar 19, 2014, at 12:27 PM, Julien Danjou jul...@danjou.info wrote: On Wed, Mar 19 2014, Kurt Griffiths wrote: That begs the question, *why* is that unlikely to change? Because that project is Swift. If you look at the Swift code, you'll see that swob is not a replacement for either

Re: [openstack-dev] [Marconi] Why is marconi a queue implementation vs a provisioning API?

2014-03-19 Thread Sylvain Bauza
2014-03-19 22:38 GMT+01:00 Fox, Kevin M kevin@pnnl.gov: Its my understanding that the only case the A in the AGPL would kick in is if the cloud provider made a change to MongoDB and exposed the MongoDB instance to users. Then the users would have to be able to download the changed code.

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