Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Use public IP address as instance fixed IP

2014-08-25 Thread Kevin Benton
I think this will depend on the deployment type for the L3 agent. If the gateway_external_network_id is left blank for the L3 agent, the external network is vlan tagged just like any regular network and doesn't have an independent bridge.[1] In that deployment scenario it should work fine. On

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] [TripleO] How to gracefully quiesce a box?

2014-08-25 Thread Ramakrishnan G
I also feel that graceful power off is one of the feature that we want in ironic. But until then, you can see if the below works for you: You can set the following property to false which will prevent ironic to sync the power state. It will instead update the node with the latest power status

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Runtime checks vs Sanity checks

2014-08-25 Thread Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo
In spite of my +1 I actually agree. I had forgotten about the sanity check framework. We put it in place to avoid an excessive (and growing) amount of checks to be done in runtime. In this case several agents need would be doing the same check. We should do things either one way or another, but

Re: [openstack-dev] Network/Incubator proposal (was Re: [Octavia] Minutes from 8/13/2014 meeting)

2014-08-25 Thread Christopher Price
Hi Alan, Just wondering why the +1 for this. It would seem that a better way of doing this without what seems like a guaranteed method of disruption would be to run a neutron forge activity and integrate the work once it is proved stable and the impacts on existing functions can be well

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] heat.conf.sample is not up to date

2014-08-25 Thread Sergey Kraynev
Mike, I had same problem some time ago. The problem was that I had a vm with installed devstack and file /etc/hosts contained string: 127.0.0.1 localhost ubuntu and changing it to: 127.0.0.1 localhost helped me. So we should have not any symbols (names) after localhost. I am not

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] [TripleO] How to gracefully quiesce a box?

2014-08-25 Thread Robert Collins
This patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116093/3/ironic/nova/virt/ironic/driver.py seems to have the right parameters to enable Ironic to DTRT (with associated internal changes) - thats when Nova learnt to soft shutdown machines. -Rob On 23 August 2014 05:48, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][ml2] Openvswitch agent support for non promic mode adapters

2014-08-25 Thread Andreas Scheuring
Hi Irena, thanks for your reply. Yes sure, collaboration would be great. Do you already have a blueprint out there? Maybe wen can synchup this week to discuss more details? Cause I would like to understand what exactly you're looking for. Normally I'm available form 7 UTC to 16 utc (today only

[openstack-dev] [Neutron] BGP dynamic routing testing.

2014-08-25 Thread Jaume Devesa
Hi! In the last L3 subteam meeting I was asked to write a document in the wiki to explain how to test the Dynamic Routing feature while is under review. The wiki page is here[1]. I've also moved the DynamicRoutingUseCases wiki page as a child of the DynamicRouting topic. I plan to add more

Re: [openstack-dev] [designate] [neutron] designate and neutron integration

2014-08-25 Thread Zang MingJie
I don't like the idea that uses bind9 views to split networks, due to follow reasons: the designate may not or hard to know the router's public address non-router may exist for some isolate networks there is no routes in our dhcp namespace currently I suggest run one bind9 instance for each

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Heat Juno Mid-cycle Meetup report

2014-08-25 Thread Thierry Carrez
Zane Bitter wrote: [...] Here are a few of the conclusions: * Everyone wishes the Design Summit worked like this. The meetup seemed a lot more productive than the design summit ever is. It's really nice to be in a room small enough that you can talk normally and hear everyone, instead of

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][cisco] Cisco Nexus requires patched ncclient

2014-08-25 Thread Robert Collins
Fwiw I would like to see such dependencies listed so that we can properly install trunk via automation. On 24 Aug 2014 10:43, Maru Newby ma...@redhat.com wrote: On Aug 14, 2014, at 1:55 PM, Ihar Hrachyshka ihrac...@redhat.com wrote: Signed PGP part FYI: I've uploaded a review for

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [ptls] The Czar system, or how to scale PTLs

2014-08-25 Thread Alan Kavanagh
That's a fair point Jay. The Czar does sound like a reasonable approach and what would be useful and helpful would be to appoint additional PTL's and not have the burden of everything falling on one individual which becomes over loading after a period of time. In this case, imho it would be

[openstack-dev] [osprofiler] how to report buy for osprofiler

2014-08-25 Thread LeslieWang
Dear all, I found a bug of osprofiler, but can not find the project at launchpad.net, so wonder to know how to report the bug, and contribute my fix. Best RegardsLeslie___ OpenStack-dev mailing list

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [ptls] The Czar system, or how to scale PTLs

2014-08-25 Thread Thierry Carrez
Anne Gentle wrote: Rochelle.RochelleGrober wrote: /flame-on Let's call spades, spades here. Czar is not only overkill, but the wrong metaphor. /flame-off I'm with Rocky on the anti-czar-as-a-word camp. We all like clever names to shed the corporate stigma but this word

Re: [openstack-dev] [osprofiler] how to report buy for osprofiler

2014-08-25 Thread Boris Pavlovic
Hi Lesile, Woot! Somebody started using OSprofiler! I create OSprofiler launchpad page: https://bugs.launchpad.net/osprofiler Feel free to report bug there. Best regards, Boris Pavlovic On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 1:54 PM, LeslieWang wqyu...@hotmail.com wrote: Dear all, I found a bug of

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [ptls] The Czar system, or how to scale PTLs

2014-08-25 Thread Thierry Carrez
Zane Bitter wrote: On 22/08/14 12:45, Dolph Mathews wrote: I'm all for getting a final decision, but a 'final' decision that has been imposed from outside rather than internalised by the participants is... rarely final. The expectation of a PTL isn't to stomp around and make final

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [ptls] The Czar system, or how to scale PTLs

2014-08-25 Thread Thierry Carrez
Tim Bell wrote: As part of the user feedback loop, we've found the PTL role extremely useful to channel feedback. The operator PTL discussions during the Atlanta summit helped to clarify a number of areas where the PTL can then take the points back to the design summit. It is not clear how

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] Procedure for adding official projects

2014-08-25 Thread Thierry Carrez
Zane Bitter wrote: Over the past couple of release cycles, the TC has put together a fairly comprehensive checklist for projects entering into incubation with a view to being included in the integrated release. However, I'm not aware of anything equivalent for projects that are becoming

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][ml2] Openvswitch agent support for non promic mode adapters

2014-08-25 Thread Irena Berezovsky
Hi Andreas, We can definitely set some time to discuss this. I am usually available from 5 to 14:00 UTC. Let's follow up on IRC (irenab). BR, Irena -Original Message- From: Andreas Scheuring [mailto:scheu...@linux.vnet.ibm.com] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 11:00 AM To: Irena

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Server Group API: add 'action' to authorizer?

2014-08-25 Thread Alex Xu
On 2014年08月23日 18:29, Christopher Yeoh wrote: On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 03:56:27 -0500 Joe Cropper cropper@gmail.com wrote: Hi Folks, Would anyone be opposed to adding the 'action' checking to the v2/v3 authorizers? This would allow administrators more fine-grained control over who can read

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [ptls] The Czar system, or how to scale PTLs

2014-08-25 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 08/25/2014 12:30 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Zane Bitter wrote: On 22/08/14 12:45, Dolph Mathews wrote: I'm all for getting a final decision, but a 'final' decision that has been imposed from outside rather than internalised by the participants is... rarely final. The expectation of a PTL

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][cisco] Cisco Nexus requires patched ncclient

2014-08-25 Thread Maru Newby
On Aug 25, 2014, at 11:38 AM, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: Fwiw I would like to see such dependencies listed so that we can properly install trunk via automation. Do you mean that you want the requirements for all plugins listed somewhere in the tree? Or specifically in

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer][WSME] Sphinx failing sporadically because of wsme autodoc extension

2014-08-25 Thread gordon chung
just an update, i had to re-add PYTHONHASHSEED = 0 to ceilometer. i didn't find the exact root cause of why WSME is affecting our doc gate but it appears WSME is also affected by new tox and random hashseed as it too suffers from random failures in UT. for now, i've added back HASHSEED so we

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-25 Thread Sean Dague
On 08/20/2014 12:37 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: On 11/08/14 05:24, Thierry Carrez wrote: So the idea that being (and remaining) in the integrated release should also be judged on technical merit is a slightly different effort. It's always been a factor in our choices, but like Devananda says, it's

[openstack-dev] [mistral] Team meeting reminder - 08/25/2014

2014-08-25 Thread Renat Akhmerov
Hi Mistral folks, Don’t forget that we’ll have a team meeting today at 16.00 UTC at #openstack-meeting. Agenda: * Review action items * Current status (progress, issues, roadblocks, further plans) * API V2 Discussion (integration with Glance, versioned client etc.) * New action design

[openstack-dev] [Fuel] Issues with hardcoded versions of requirements in specs of packages

2014-08-25 Thread Timur Nurlygayanov
Hi team, Today I started to build Fuel ISO from the master branch and with packages with code from the master branches, and have found strange errors: http://jenkins-product.srt.mirantis.net:8080/view/custom_iso/job/custom_master_iso/77/console Looks like we have hardcoded versions of all

[openstack-dev] [Swift] 2.1.0-rc tagged

2014-08-25 Thread John Dickinson
Swift 2.1.0.rc1 has been tagged as our release candidate for 2.1.0. The plan is to let this RC soak for a week and then do the final release on Sept 1. Please check it out and report any issues that you find. Tag applied:

Re: [openstack-dev] [osprofiler] how to report buy for osprofiler

2014-08-25 Thread LeslieWang
Hi Boris, Thanks for the reply. I'm trying TripleO, and want to enable Horizon UI in this environment, and the bug causes horizon can not start correctly. I feel my found probably is helpful for people who have needs, so wanna report back to community. I've created bug

[openstack-dev] [Fuel] Pre-5.1 and master builds ISO are available for download

2014-08-25 Thread Igor Shishkin
Hi all, along with building your own ISO following instructions [1], you can always download nightly build [2] and run it, by using virtualbox scripts [3], for example. For your conveniency, you can see a build status table on CI [4]. First tab now refers to pre-5.1 builds, and second - to

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Incubator concerns from packaging perspective

2014-08-25 Thread Pradeep Kilambi (pkilambi)
On 8/23/14, 5:36 PM, Maru Newby ma...@redhat.com wrote: On Aug 23, 2014, at 4:06 AM, Sumit Naiksatam sumitnaiksa...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:28 AM, Kyle Mestery mest...@mestery.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Ihar Hrachyshka ihrac...@redhat.com wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Nova] Specs and approvals

2014-08-25 Thread Jay Dobies
I was on vacation last week and am late to the discussion, but I'm +1 for the idea. On 08/19/2014 02:08 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 8:23 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com mailto:rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/19/2014 05:31 AM, Robert Collins wrote: Hey

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Marconi][Heat] Creating accounts in Keystone

2014-08-25 Thread Zane Bitter
On 24/08/14 23:17, Adam Young wrote: On 08/23/2014 02:01 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: I don't know how Zaqar does its magic, but I'd love to see simple signed URLs rather than users/passwords. This would work for Heat as well. That way we only have to pass in a single predictably formatted string.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Marconi][Heat] Creating accounts in Keystone

2014-08-25 Thread Ryan Brown
On 08/22/2014 05:35 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: On AWS the very first thing a user does is create a bunch of IAM accounts so that they virtually never have to use the credentials associated with their natural person ever again. There are both user accounts and service accounts - the latter IIUC

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [third-party] What tests are required to be run

2014-08-25 Thread Kyle Mestery
Dane, thanks for all the great work you're doing in the third-party CI area. It's great to see you working to share this knowledge with others as well! Did Kevin's idea work for you to move past this issue? If not, I suggest you put an item on the neutron meeting agenda today and we cover this

[openstack-dev] [nova] Server Groups - remove VM from group?

2014-08-25 Thread Joe Cropper
Hello, Is our long-term vision to allow a VMs to be dynamically added/removed from a group? That is, unless I'm overlooking something, it appears that you can only add a VM to a server group at VM boot time and effectively remove it by deleting the VM? Just curious if this was a design point,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][IPv6] Allowing Plugins in tree that explicitly do not support IPv6

2014-08-25 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Collins, Sean sean_colli...@cable.comcast.com wrote: Hi, The amount of tests that we are having to add skips to for the One Convergence plugin has grown quite a bit lately.

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Server Groups - remove VM from group?

2014-08-25 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/25/2014 11:10 AM, Joe Cropper wrote: Hello, Is our long-term vision to allow a VMs to be dynamically added/removed from a group? That is, unless I'm overlooking something, it appears that you can only add a VM to a server group at VM boot time and effectively remove it by deleting the

Re: [openstack-dev] [congress] policy summit

2014-08-25 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 7:01 PM, Sean Roberts seanrobert...@gmail.com wrote: I am looking for policy overview/impact covering heat, neutron, nova, olso, mistral, and rubric. Are there any others that want to join us and discuss how policy impacts their project? I would welcome some discussion

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Heat Juno Mid-cycle Meetup report

2014-08-25 Thread Zane Bitter
On 25/08/14 05:21, Thierry Carrez wrote: Zane Bitter wrote: [...] Here are a few of the conclusions: * Everyone wishes the Design Summit worked like this. The meetup seemed a lot more productive than the design summit ever is. It's really nice to be in a room small enough that you can talk

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Server Groups - remove VM from group?

2014-08-25 Thread Joe Cropper
Thanks Jay. Those are the same types of questions I was pondering as well when debating how someone might use this. I think what we have is fine for a first pass, but that's what I was poking at... whether some of the abilities to add/remove members dynamically could exist (e.g., I no longer

Re: [openstack-dev] [designate] [neutron] designate and neutron integration

2014-08-25 Thread Hayes, Graham
We don't actually envisage a bind9 views solution in the near future. I would imagine (this has not yet been discussed) that we would have service VMs (one per network / tenant) connected to the neutron network, and a control network (like how Trove are doing the neutron integration). Designate

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [ptls] The Czar system, or how to scale PTLs

2014-08-25 Thread Zane Bitter
On 22/08/14 21:02, Anne Gentle wrote: I'm with Rocky on the anti-czar-as-a-word camp. We all like clever names to shed the corporate stigma but this word ain't it. Liaison or lead? +1. The only time you hear the word 'czar' in regular life (outside of references to pre-revolutionary Russia)

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Pre-5.1 and master builds ISO are available for download

2014-08-25 Thread Vladimir Kuklin
I would also like to add that you can use our library called devops along with system tests we use for QA and CI. These tests use libvirt and kvm so that you can easily fire up an environment with specific configuration (Centos/Ubuntu Nova/Neutron Ceph/Swift and so on). All the documentation how

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Issues with hardcoded versions of requirements in specs of packages

2014-08-25 Thread Timur Nurlygayanov
When I started the build of ISO from master branch, I can see the following errors: https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1361279 I want to submit the patch set and remove all hardcoded requirements and change all '==' to '=', but I want to discuss how we can organize specs to avoid problems with

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Server Groups - remove VM from group?

2014-08-25 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/25/2014 11:31 AM, Joe Cropper wrote: Thanks Jay. Those are the same types of questions I was pondering as well when debating how someone might use this. I think what we have is fine for a first pass, but that's what I was poking at... whether some of the abilities to add/remove members

[openstack-dev] What does NASA not using OpenStack mean to OS's future

2014-08-25 Thread Aryeh Friedman
http://www.quora.com/Why-would-the-creators-of-OpenStack-the-market-leader-in-cloud-computing-platforms-refuse-to-use-it-and-use-AWS-instead -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list

[openstack-dev] [Fuel] removing single mode

2014-08-25 Thread Andrew Woodward
Started a new thread so that we don't hijack the older thread. as Andrew, will you work on it in 6.0? What are remaining items there? Also, it might affect our tests - simple mode runs faster so we use it for smoke ISO test. Anastasia, please confirm that we can switch smoke to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Enable SSL between client and API exposed via public URL with HAProxy

2014-08-25 Thread Andrew Woodward
Mike, I've started a separate thread titled 'removing single mode' so that we don't thread jack the ssl conversation. On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 12:27 PM, David Easter deas...@mirantis.com wrote: Hi Adam, Just to clarify the subtlety of this change - you can still install a single

Re: [openstack-dev] What does NASA not using OpenStack mean to OS's future

2014-08-25 Thread Steve Martinelli
This is hardly a development related question. Regards, Steve Martinelli Software Developer - OpenStack Keystone Core Member Phone: 1-905-413-2851 E-mail: steve...@ca.ibm.com 8200 Warden Ave Markham, ON L6G 1C7 Canada Aryeh Friedman aryeh.fried...@gmail.com wrote on 08/25/2014 12:08:50

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] removing single mode

2014-08-25 Thread Mike Scherbakov
Thanks, Andrew. I think it's worth to track as a normal feature with formal fuel-specs, as it touches too many things (docs and a number of tests). Should be short spec though. On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 8:19 PM, Andrew Woodward xar...@gmail.com wrote: Started a new thread so that we don't

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Issues with hardcoded versions of requirements in specs of packages

2014-08-25 Thread Timur Nurlygayanov
Commit with fast fix was submitted: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116667/ Need review :) I will try to build image with this commit and will send my comments with my results. On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 7:55 PM, Timur Nurlygayanov tnurlygaya...@mirantis.com wrote: When I started the build of

Re: [openstack-dev] What does NASA not using OpenStack mean to OS's future

2014-08-25 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/25/2014 12:08 PM, Aryeh Friedman wrote: http://www.quora.com/Why-would-the-creators-of-OpenStack-the-market-leader-in-cloud-computing-platforms-refuse-to-use-it-and-use-AWS-instead Would you mind please not posting to the developer's mailing list inflammatory random web pages? Thanks,

Re: [openstack-dev] What does NASA not using OpenStack mean to OS's future

2014-08-25 Thread Anita Kuno
On 08/25/2014 12:29 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: On 08/25/2014 12:08 PM, Aryeh Friedman wrote: http://www.quora.com/Why-would-the-creators-of-OpenStack-the-market-leader-in-cloud-computing-platforms-refuse-to-use-it-and-use-AWS-instead Would you mind please not posting to the developer's mailing

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [third-party] What tests are required to be run

2014-08-25 Thread Edgar Magana
Dane, I will second Kyle's idea. Let's discuss this during today IRC meeting if Kevin's suggestion does not work for you. Thanks, Edgar On 8/25/14, 10:08 AM, Kyle Mestery mest...@mestery.com wrote: Dane, thanks for all the great work you're doing in the third-party CI area. It's great to see

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] removing single mode

2014-08-25 Thread Evgeniy L
Hi Andrew, I have some comments regarding to you action items 2) Removing simple mode from the ui and tests 3) Removing simple mode support from nailgun (maybe we leave it) and cli We shouldn't do it, because nailgun should handle both versions of cluster. What we have to do here is to use

Re: [openstack-dev] What does NASA not using OpenStack mean to OS's future

2014-08-25 Thread Aryeh Friedman
1. Sorry wrong list 2. Your answers just confirm NASA was right On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Steve Martinelli steve...@ca.ibm.com wrote: This is hardly a development related question. Regards, *Steve Martinelli* Software Developer - OpenStack Keystone Core Member

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Server Groups - remove VM from group?

2014-08-25 Thread Joe Cropper
That was indeed a rather long (and insightful) thread on the topic. It sounds like there are still some healthy discussions worth having on the subject -- either exploring your [potentially superseding] proposal, or minimally rounding out the existing server group API to support add existing VM

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [third-party] What tests are required to be run

2014-08-25 Thread Dane Leblanc (leblancd)
Edgar, Kyle: Kevin's suggestion should work for me (still hashing out the implementation). I've added an item to the 3rd Party IRC agenda anyway to discuss this corner case. Thanks! Dane -Original Message- From: Edgar Magana [mailto:edgar.mag...@workday.com] Sent: Monday, August 25,

[openstack-dev] [mistral] Team meeting minutes/log - 08/25/2014

2014-08-25 Thread Renat Akhmerov
Thanks for joining our community meeting today! Meeting minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2014/mistral.2014-08-25-16.00.html Meeting log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2014/mistral.2014-08-25-16.00.log.html The next meeting will be on Sept 1st at the

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Server Groups - remove VM from group?

2014-08-25 Thread Russell Bryant
On 08/25/2014 12:56 PM, Joe Cropper wrote: That was indeed a rather long (and insightful) thread on the topic. It sounds like there are still some healthy discussions worth having on the subject -- either exploring your [potentially superseding] proposal, or minimally rounding out the existing

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Server Groups - remove VM from group?

2014-08-25 Thread Joe Cropper
I was thinking something simple such as only allowing the add operation to succeed IFF no policies are found to be in violation... and then nova wouldn't need to get into all the complexities you mention? And remove would be fairly straightforward as well since no constraints would need to be

Re: [openstack-dev] What does NASA not using OpenStack mean to OS's future

2014-08-25 Thread Endre Karlson
1. If you're wanting to start a fire you need to somewhere else then a development mailing list. 2. Get your facts together, much of what you're writing on Quota as many has pointed out is totally wrong. Also what Anita noted earlier about OS != OpenStack in that sense. Please keep topics like

Re: [openstack-dev] What does NASA not using OpenStack mean to OS's future

2014-08-25 Thread Aryeh Friedman
Do you call Martin Meckos having no clue... he is the one that leveled the second worse criticism after mine... or is Euclapytus not one the founding members of OpenStack (after all many of the glance commands still use it's name) On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Endre Karlson

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][IPv6] Allowing Plugins in tree that explicitly do not support IPv6

2014-08-25 Thread Subrahmanyam Ongole
Hi Sean I will join the Neutron IRC, get the inputs and address them at the earliest. I like to know the requirements for J K release cycles and what other open source reference plugins have done towards this. We need to ramp up our resources on ipv6 support. On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 12:18 PM,

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Server Groups - remove VM from group?

2014-08-25 Thread Russell Bryant
On 08/25/2014 01:25 PM, Joe Cropper wrote: I was thinking something simple such as only allowing the add operation to succeed IFF no policies are found to be in violation... and then nova wouldn't need to get into all the complexities you mention? Even something like this is a lot more

Re: [openstack-dev] What does NASA not using OpenStack mean to OS's future

2014-08-25 Thread Ian Wells
On 25 August 2014 10:34, Aryeh Friedman aryeh.fried...@gmail.com wrote: Do you call Martin Meckos having no clue... he is the one that leveled the second worse criticism after mine... or is Euclapytus not one the founding members of OpenStack (after all many of the glance commands still use

Re: [openstack-dev] What does NASA not using OpenStack mean to OS's future

2014-08-25 Thread Aryeh Friedman
If I was doing that then I would be promoting the platform by name (which I am not). I was just pointing out in our own internal ananylis OS came in dead last among all the open source IaaS/PaaS's (the current version of mine is not #1 btw) On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Ian Wells

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Launchpad tracking of oslo projects

2014-08-25 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 22, 2014, at 5:59 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: TL;DR: Let's create an Oslo projectgroup in Launchpad to track work across all Oslo libraries. In library projects, let's use milestones connected to published versions rather than the common milestones. Long

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Incubator concerns from packaging perspective

2014-08-25 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 23, 2014, at 5:36 PM, Maru Newby ma...@redhat.com wrote: On Aug 23, 2014, at 4:06 AM, Sumit Naiksatam sumitnaiksa...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:28 AM, Kyle Mestery mest...@mestery.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Ihar Hrachyshka ihrac...@redhat.com

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Server Groups - remove VM from group?

2014-08-25 Thread Joe Cropper
Even something like this is a lot more complicated than it sounds due to the fact that several operations can be happening in parallel. That's fair, but I was thinking that the 'add existing' VM is fairly close in behavior to 'add new' VM to the group, less of course any parallel operations

[openstack-dev] [Infra] Meeting Tuesday August 26th at 19:00 UTC

2014-08-25 Thread Elizabeth K. Joseph
Hi everyone, The OpenStack Infrastructure (Infra) team is hosting our weekly meeting on Tuesday August 26th, at 19:00 UTC in #openstack-meeting Meeting agenda available here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting (anyone is welcome to to add agenda items) Everyone interested

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [ptls] The Czar system, or how to scale PTLs

2014-08-25 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 23, 2014, at 6:35 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Dolph Mathews's message of 2014-08-22 09:45:37 -0700: On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 22/08/14 11:19, Thierry Carrez wrote: Zane Bitter wrote: On 22/08/14 08:33,

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] heat.conf.sample is not up to date

2014-08-25 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 24, 2014, at 12:30 PM, Ruslan Kamaldinov rkamaldi...@mirantis.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Mike Spreitzer mspre...@us.ibm.com wrote: What I really need to know is what to do when committing a change that really does require a change in the sample configuration file.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] [LBaaS] LBaaS v2 API syntax additions/changes

2014-08-25 Thread Brandon Logan
Hi John, Comments in-line On Sun, 2014-08-24 at 16:37 +0300, John Schwarz wrote: Hi, With the ongoing development of LBaaS v2, support for v2 of LBaaS in neutronclient is also being developed, as can be seen in [1]. The current implementation adds a new syntax for v2; Whereas the v1 syntax

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] heat.conf.sample is not up to date

2014-08-25 Thread Joe Gordon
On Aug 24, 2014 9:04 AM, Morgan Fainberg morgan.fainb...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, August 24, 2014, Anne Gentle a...@openstack.org wrote: I'm following this as well since I have the exact same problem in a docstring patch for heat. Keystone saw an oddity with the new sample config

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] [LBaaS] LBaaS v2 API syntax additions/changes

2014-08-25 Thread Brandon Logan
Hi Clark, From my understanding the keystone catalog will not contain endpoints for neutron extensions. I could see it being allowed but since Neutron can enable/disable extensions on a whim, there would need to be some cross project communication between keystone and neutron. I'm sure there are

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Acceptable methods for establishing per-test-suite behaviors

2014-08-25 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 22, 2014, at 4:09 PM, James E. Blair cor...@inaugust.com wrote: Hi, One of the things we've wanted for a while in some projects is a completely separate database environment for each test when using MySQL. To that end, I wrote a MySQL schema fixture that is in use in nodepool:

Re: [openstack-dev] What does NASA not using OpenStack mean to OS's future

2014-08-25 Thread Joshua Harlow
So to see if we can get something useful from this thread. What was your internal analysis, can it be published? Even negative analysis is useful to make openstack better... It'd be nice to have some details on what you found, what u didn't find, so that we can all improve... After all that

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [ptls] The Czar system, or how to scale PTLs

2014-08-25 Thread Rochelle.RochelleGrober
Zane Bitter wrote: On 22/08/14 21:02, Anne Gentle wrote: I'm with Rocky on the anti-czar-as-a-word camp. We all like clever names to shed the corporate stigma but this word ain't it. Liaison or lead? +1. The only time you hear the word 'czar' in regular life (outside of references to

[openstack-dev] [requirements] writing down global requirements lore

2014-08-25 Thread Sean Dague
A few of us that have +2 on the global requirements repository happened to be in Chicago last week for LinuxCon, and something that came up over drinks was the fact that it seems clear that the overall +2 group on the repo doesn't have all the background on why the repository got created, or some

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [ptls] The Czar system, or how to scale PTLs

2014-08-25 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-08-25 19:39:30 + (+), Rochelle.RochelleGrober wrote: Or, how about Secretary? [...] While we're painting this particular bike shed, I have a preference for janitor, drudge, mule, valet, slogger or similar terms which make it apparent that there is nothing at all glamorous nor

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][IPv6] Allowing Plugins in tree that explicitly do not support IPv6

2014-08-25 Thread Kevin Benton
Hi Sean, Until the IPv6 support requirement is determined, this patch prevent reviewers from having to add the skip test as long as they mention 'v6' in the name. [1] 1. https://review.openstack.org/116712 On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Collins, Sean sean_colli...@cable.comcast.com wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-25 Thread Adam Lawson
I recognize I'm joining the discussion late but I've been following the dialog fairly closely and want to offer my perspective FWIW. I have a lot going through my head, not sure how to get it all out there so I'll do a brain dump, get some feedback and apologize in advance. One the things I like

[openstack-dev] [Heat][Docker] How to Dockerize your applications with OpenStack Heat in simple steps

2014-08-25 Thread Marouen Mechtri
Hi all, I want to present you our guide for Docker containers deployment with OpenStack Heat. In this guide we dockerize and deploy a lamp application on two containers. https://github.com/MarouenMechtri/OpenStack-Heat-Installation/blob/master/Docker-containers-deployment-with-OpenStack-Heat.rst

Re: [openstack-dev] What does NASA not using OpenStack mean to OS's future

2014-08-25 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 08/25/2014 02:36 PM, Joshua Harlow wrote: So to see if we can get something useful from this thread. not on this mailing list. Move it somewhere else: this thread is off topic here. /stef ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list

[openstack-dev] [trove] single trove config file and run check_uptodate?

2014-08-25 Thread Matt Riedemann
I was reviewing some install script recently where someone was trying to configure trove and I was asking about some config option they were setting which wasn't in the trove.conf.sample. I was too lazy at the time to see if it was a valid option in the code, but did make me wonder if there

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [ptls] The Czar system, or how to scale PTLs

2014-08-25 Thread Zane Bitter
On 25/08/14 06:30, Thierry Carrez wrote: Zane Bitter wrote: On 22/08/14 12:45, Dolph Mathews wrote: I'm all for getting a final decision, but a 'final' decision that has been imposed from outside rather than internalised by the participants is... rarely final. The expectation of a PTL

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] In-tree functional test vision

2014-08-25 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 3:29 AM, Chris Dent chd...@redhat.com wrote: In the Thoughts on the patch test failure rate and moving forward thread[1] there's discussion of moving some of the burden for functional testing to the individual projects. This seems like a good idea to me, but also seems

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] Procedure for adding official projects

2014-08-25 Thread Zane Bitter
On 25/08/14 06:48, Thierry Carrez wrote: Zane Bitter wrote: Over the past couple of release cycles, the TC has put together a fairly comprehensive checklist for projects entering into incubation with a view to being included in the integrated release. However, I'm not aware of anything

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [ptls] The Czar system, or how to scale PTLs

2014-08-25 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Mon 25 Aug 2014 03:38:18 PM CDT, Zane Bitter wrote: I'd say we've done fairly well, but I would attribute that at least in part to the fact that we've treated the PTL as effectively the temporary release management contact more than the guy who will resolve disputes for us. In other words,

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [ptls] The Czar system, or how to scale PTLs

2014-08-25 Thread Rochelle.RochelleGrober
Zane Bitter [August 25, 2014 1:38 PM] wrote: . . . snip I'd say we've done fairly well, but I would attribute that at least in part to the fact that we've treated the PTL as effectively the temporary release management contact more than the guy who will resolve disputes for us. In other

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron] Migration from nova-network to Neutron for large production clouds

2014-08-25 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 1:17 AM, Tim Bell tim.b...@cern.ch wrote: Michael has been posting very informative blogs on the summary of the mid-cycle meetups for Nova. The one on the Nova Network to Neutron migration was of particular interest to me as it raises a number of potential impacts for

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [ptls] The Czar system, or how to scale PTLs

2014-08-25 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 08/22/2014 08:19 PM, John Dickinson wrote: I think Anne makes some excellent points about the pattern being proposed being unlikely to be commonly implemented across all the programs (or, at best, very difficult). Let's not try to formalize another best practice that works many times and

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] In-tree functional test vision

2014-08-25 Thread Chris Dent
On Mon, 25 Aug 2014, Joe Gordon wrote: [Other stuff snipped, thanks for that, good to have some pointers.] Why can't you run devstack locally? Maybe there are some changes we can make so its easier to run devstack locally first. I do run a local devstack, and throw in some tempest and

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat][Docker] How to Dockerize your applications with OpenStack Heat in simple steps

2014-08-25 Thread Angus Salkeld
This seems misleading as there is no description on setting up nova-docker or using the heat docker container. -Angus On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 5:56 AM, Marouen Mechtri mechtri.mar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I want to present you our guide for Docker containers deployment with OpenStack

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] In-tree functional test vision

2014-08-25 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Chris Dent chd...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, 25 Aug 2014, Joe Gordon wrote: [Other stuff snipped, thanks for that, good to have some pointers.] Why can't you run devstack locally? Maybe there are some changes we can make so its easier to run devstack

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Incubator concerns from packaging perspective

2014-08-25 Thread Mandeep Dhami
+1 I agree with Pradeep and Doug that a new namespace makes for a better structure for packaging and usage. Regards, Mandeep - On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: On Aug 23, 2014, at 5:36 PM, Maru Newby ma...@redhat.com wrote: On Aug 23,

[openstack-dev] [cinder]pylint errors with hashlib

2014-08-25 Thread Murali Balcha
Pylint on my patch is failing with the following error: Module 'hashlib' has no 'sha256' Cinder pylint already has following exceptions, pylint_exceptions:[Instance of 'sha1' has no 'update' member, ] pylint_exceptions:[Module 'hashlib' has no 'sha224' member, ] So I think hashlib has no

[openstack-dev] [nova] Suggestion that Fix to logic of diskfilter

2014-08-25 Thread Jae Sang Lee
Hi, all. Diskfilter based on host disk usage, it check between usable host disk size and requested vm disk size. But when create a VM with boot volume, Diskfilter has filtered a host although a VM doesn't use host disk. (Usually ISCSI volume could be attached) So I have filed following defect to

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder]pylint errors with hashlib

2014-08-25 Thread Clark Boylan
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014, at 06:45 PM, Murali Balcha wrote: Pylint on my patch is failing with the following error: Module 'hashlib' has no 'sha256' Cinder pylint already has following exceptions, pylint_exceptions:[Instance of 'sha1' has no 'update' member, ] pylint_exceptions:[Module

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