Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [clients] [keystone] lack of retrying tokens leads to overall OpenStack fragility

2014-09-12 Thread Angus Lees
On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 03:00:02 PM Duncan Thomas wrote: On 11 September 2014 03:17, Angus Lees g...@inodes.org wrote: (As inspired by eg kerberos) 2. Ensure at some environmental/top layer that the advertised token lifetime exceeds the timeout set on the request, before making the request.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-12 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/12/2014 03:29 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-09-11 15:21:26 -0700: On 09/09/14 19:56, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Samuel Merritt's message of 2014-09-09 16:12:09 -0700: On 9/9/14, 12:03 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: On 09/04/2014 01:30 AM, Clint Byrum

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Propose adding StevenK to core reviewers

2014-09-12 Thread mar...@redhat.com
On 09/09/14 21:32, Gregory Haynes wrote: Hello everyone! I have been working on a meta-review of StevenK's reviews and I would like to propose him as a new member of our core team. As I'm sure many have noticed, he has been above our stats requirements for several months now. More

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Complex resource_metadata could fail to store in MongoDB

2014-09-12 Thread Igor Degtiarov
Hi! After some local discussions with Dmitiy Uklov we have found solution. To solve the problem with dots inside keys in metadata dictionary we propose to reconstruct it before storing in MongoDB. Ex. If we get metadata: {'a.s.d': 'v'} it could be stored in MongoDB after a reconstruction

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [clients] [keystone] lack of retrying tokens leads to overall OpenStack fragility

2014-09-12 Thread Angus Lees
On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 03:21:52 PM Steven Hardy wrote: On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 08:46:45PM -0400, Jamie Lennox wrote: For service to service communication there are two types. 1) using the user's token like nova-cinder. If this token expires there is really nothing that nova can do except raise

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] i need some help on this bug Bug #1365892

2014-09-12 Thread Angus Lees
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 01:04:02 PM Mike Bayer wrote: In this case it appears to be a “safety” in case someone uses the ConnectionContext object outside of being a context manager. I’d fix that and require that it be used as a context manager only. Oh look, I have a new pylint hammer that is

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Propose adding StevenK to core reviewers

2014-09-12 Thread Derek Higgins
+1 On 09/09/14 19:32, Gregory Haynes wrote: Hello everyone! I have been working on a meta-review of StevenK's reviews and I would like to propose him as a new member of our core team. As I'm sure many have noticed, he has been above our stats requirements for several months now. More

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][db] Need help resolving a strange error with db connections in tests

2014-09-12 Thread Kevin Benton
Can you explain a bit about that test? I'm having trouble reproducing it. On the system (upstream Jenkins) that it's failing on, is postgres available with that database? On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 7:07 AM, Anna Kamyshnikova akamyshnik...@mirantis.com wrote: Hello everyone! I'm working on

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][Architecture]Suggestions for the third vendors' plugin and driver

2014-09-12 Thread Germy Lure
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Kevin Benton blak...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe I missed something, but what's the solution? There isn't one yet. That's why it's going to be discussed at the summit. So my suggestion is remove all vendors' plugins and drivers except opensource as built-in. By

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-12 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/12/2014 12:14 AM, Zane Bitter wrote: On 09/09/14 15:03, Monty Taylor wrote: On 09/04/2014 01:30 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-04 00:08:47 -0700: Greetings, Last Tuesday the TC held the first graduation review for Zaqar. During the meeting

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] Request for J3 FFE - add reset-state function for backups

2014-09-12 Thread Thierry Carrez
Jay Bryant wrote: It isn't a huge change. I am ok with it if we can get the issues addressed. Especially Duncan's concern. Given the gate backlog, if it's not already in-flight, I fear that it would push too much down into the stabilization period and delay RC1. At this point, unless it's

Re: [openstack-dev] [zaqar] Juno Performance Testing (Round 2)

2014-09-12 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/12/2014 01:36 AM, Boris Pavlovic wrote: Kurt, Speaking generally, I’d like to see the project bake this in over time as part of the CI process. It’s definitely useful information not just for the developers but also for operators in terms of capacity planning.

[openstack-dev] [Fuel] Hard Code Freeze for milestones 5.1, 5.0.2 reached

2014-09-12 Thread Mike Scherbakov
Hi Fuelers, I'm glad to announce that we've reached formal Hard Code Freeze (HCF) [1] criteria for milestones 5.1 and 5.0.2. As stable/5.1 branch is already open, we don't need to do anything particular. All further bugs found in 5.1 / 5.0.2 with priority lower than Critical should be closed as

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [clients] [keystone] lack of retrying tokens leads to overall OpenStack fragility

2014-09-12 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/11/2014 01:44 PM, Sean Dague wrote: On 09/10/2014 08:46 PM, Jamie Lennox wrote: - Original Message - From: Steven Hardy sha...@redhat.com To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] Request for J3 FFE - add reset-state function for backups

2014-09-12 Thread Duncan Thomas
On 12 September 2014 09:54, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: At this point, unless it's critical to the success of the release (like, it completes a feature that is 99% there, or it increases consistency by plugging a feature gap, or it fixes a potential security vulnerability), I

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] Tempest Bug triage

2014-09-12 Thread Kashyap Chamarthy
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 03:52:56PM -0400, David Kranz wrote: So we had a Bug Day this week and the results were a bit disappointing due to lack of participation. We went from 124 New bugs to 75. There were also many cases where bugs referred to logs that no longer existed. This suggests that

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-12 Thread Thierry Carrez
Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-11 04:14:30 -0700: Is Zaqar being optimized as a *queuing* service? I'd say no. Our goal is to optimize Zaqar for delivering messages and supporting different messaging patterns. Awesome! Just please don't expect people to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][Architecture]Suggestions for the third vendors' plugin and driver

2014-09-12 Thread Kevin Benton
So my suggestion is remove all vendors' plugins and drivers except opensource as built-in. Yes, I think this is currently the view held by the PTL (Kyle) and some of the other cores so what you're suggesting will definitely come up at the summit. Why do we need a different repo to store

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][db] Need help resolving a strange error with db connections in tests

2014-09-12 Thread Anna Kamyshnikova
This is implementing ModelsMigrationsSync test from oslo [1]. For running it locally on Postgres you have to do the following things (it is mentioned in comments to test): For the opportunistic testing you need to set up a db named 'openstack_citest' with user 'openstack_citest' and password

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-12 Thread Thierry Carrez
Flavio Percoco wrote: On 09/12/2014 12:14 AM, Zane Bitter wrote: The final question is the one of arbitrary access to messages in the queue (or queue if you prefer). Flavio indicated that this effectively came for free with their implementation of Pub-Sub. IMHO it is unnecessary and limits

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-12 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 02:02:00PM -0400, Dan Prince wrote: I've always referred to the virt/driver.py API as an internal API meaning there are no guarantees about it being preserved across releases. I'm not saying this is correct... just that it is what we've got. While OpenStack attempts to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] Request for J3 FFE - add reset-state function for backups

2014-09-12 Thread Thierry Carrez
Duncan Thomas wrote: On 12 September 2014 09:54, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: At this point, unless it's critical to the success of the release (like, it completes a feature that is 99% there, or it increases consistency by plugging a feature gap, or it fixes a potential

[openstack-dev] [metrics] Old reviews (2011) with strange uploaded dates in review.openstack.org

2014-09-12 Thread Daniel Izquierdo
Hi there, I was checking some datasets [1] by the Activity Board [2] and realized that there are some inconsistencies in the old reviews, around July 2011, at the very beginning. An example of this [3] shows that the uploaded date is Dec 16, 2012, while the review was opened on the 25th of

[openstack-dev] [openstack][neutron] tox -e py27 is not working in the latest neutron code

2014-09-12 Thread Kelam, Koteswara Rao
Hi All, I am trying to run unit test cases in neutron code using tox -e py27 but it is not working. I commented out pbr in requirements.txt to avoid issues related to pbr but still I am getting following errors. I removed .tox folder and tried again but still same issue. Please help me here.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-12 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Wed, 2014-09-10 at 14:51 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: Flavio Percoco wrote: [...] Based on the feedback from the meeting[3], the current main concern is: - Do we need a messaging service with a feature-set akin to SQS+SNS? [...] I think we do need, as Samuel puts it, some sort of

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-12 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Wed, 2014-09-10 at 12:46 -0700, Monty Taylor wrote: On 09/09/2014 07:04 PM, Samuel Merritt wrote: On 9/9/14, 4:47 PM, Devananda van der Veen wrote: The questions now before us are: - should OpenStack include, in the integrated release, a messaging-as-a-service component? I

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][all] switch from mysqldb to another eventlet aware mysql client

2014-09-12 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Some updates/concerns/questions. The status of introducing a new driver to gate is: - - all the patches for mysql-connector are merged in all projects; - - all devstack patches to support switching the driver are merged; - - new sqlalchemy-migrate

Re: [openstack-dev] masking X-Auth-Token in debug output - proposed consistency

2014-09-12 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/11/2014 08:49 PM, Jamie Lennox wrote: - Original Message - From: Travis S Tripp travis.tr...@hp.com To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Sent: Friday, 12 September, 2014 10:30:53 AM Subject: [openstack-dev]

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][all] switch from mysqldb to another eventlet aware mysql client

2014-09-12 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/12/2014 06:41 AM, Ihar Hrachyshka wrote: Some updates/concerns/questions. The status of introducing a new driver to gate is: - all the patches for mysql-connector are merged in all projects; - all devstack patches to support switching the driver are merged; - new sqlalchemy-migrate

[openstack-dev] [Openstack-dev][Cinder] FFE request for adding Huawei SDSHypervisor driver and connector

2014-09-12 Thread Zhangni
I'd like to request an Juno feature freeze exception for this blueprint and Spec: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/huawei-sdshypervisor-driver https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101688/ as implemented by the following patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108609

[openstack-dev] [all] Design Summit planning

2014-09-12 Thread Thierry Carrez
Hi everyone, I visited the Paris Design Summit space on Monday and confirmed that it should be possible to split it in a way that would allow to have per-program contributors meetups on the Friday. The schedule would go as follows: Tuesday: cross-project workshops Wednesday, Thursday:

[openstack-dev] [all] PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE=true in tox.ini

2014-09-12 Thread Sean Dague
I assume you, gentle OpenStack developers, often find yourself in a hair tearing out moment of frustration about why local unit tests are doing completely insane things. The code that it is stack tracing on is no where to be found, and yet it fails. And then you realize that part of oslo

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-12 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/12/2014 11:36 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Flavio Percoco wrote: On 09/12/2014 12:14 AM, Zane Bitter wrote: The final question is the one of arbitrary access to messages in the queue (or queue if you prefer). Flavio indicated that this effectively came for free with their implementation of

Re: [openstack-dev] [Infra][Cinder] Coraid CI system

2014-09-12 Thread Roman Bogorodskiy
Hi, Mykola has some problems sending emails to the list, so he asked me to post a response, here it goes: --- Remy, I have improved Coraid CI system and added logs of all components of devstack. Please have a look: http://38.111.159.9:8080/job/Coraid_CI/164/ According to the

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Server Groups - remove VM from group?

2014-09-12 Thread Russell Bryant
On 09/11/2014 05:01 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: On 09/11/2014 04:51 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 9/10/2014 6:00 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: On 09/10/2014 06:46 PM, Joe Cropper wrote: Hmm, not sure I follow the concern, Russell. How is that any different from putting a VM into the group when it’s

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-12 Thread Zane Bitter
On 11/09/14 19:05, Jay Pipes wrote: On 09/11/2014 04:09 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: Swift is the current exception here, but one could argue, and people have[2], that Swift is also the only project that actually conforms to our stated design tenets for OpenStack. I'd struggle to tell the Zaqar folks

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-12 Thread Zane Bitter
On 12/09/14 04:50, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 09/12/2014 12:14 AM, Zane Bitter wrote: However, Zaqar also supports the Pub-Sub model of messaging. I believe, but would like Flavio to confirm, that this is what is meant when the Zaqar team say that Zaqar is about messaging in general and not just

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][db] Need help resolving a strange error with db connections in tests

2014-09-12 Thread Kevin Benton
This one was tricky. :-) This failure can be produced consistently by running the following two tests: neutron.tests.unit.brocade.test_brocade_plugin.TestBrocadePortsV2.test_delete_network_port_exists_owned_by_network

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Design Summit planning

2014-09-12 Thread Zane Bitter
On 12/09/14 07:37, Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi everyone, I visited the Paris Design Summit space on Monday and confirmed that it should be possible to split it in a way that would allow to have per-program contributors meetups on the Friday. The schedule would go as follows: Tuesday:

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][all] switch from mysqldb to another eventlet aware mysql client

2014-09-12 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 12/09/14 13:20, Sean Dague wrote: On 09/12/2014 06:41 AM, Ihar Hrachyshka wrote: Some updates/concerns/questions. The status of introducing a new driver to gate is: - all the patches for mysql-connector are merged in all projects; - all

Re: [openstack-dev] [metrics] Old reviews (2011) with strange uploaded dates in review.openstack.org

2014-09-12 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-09-12 11:54:19 +0200 (+0200), Daniel Izquierdo wrote: [...] And a question: was there a migration around the 2012-12-16 of the review system or some other noticeable event?. On such date there was around 1,200 submitted reviews, while around those days, in mean, there are some dozens

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] Tempest Bug triage

2014-09-12 Thread David Kranz
On 09/12/2014 05:11 AM, Kashyap Chamarthy wrote: On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 03:52:56PM -0400, David Kranz wrote: So we had a Bug Day this week and the results were a bit disappointing due to lack of participation. We went from 124 New bugs to 75. There were also many cases where bugs referred to

Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack][neutron] tox -e py27 is not working in the latest neutron code

2014-09-12 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-09-12 10:02:49 + (+), Kelam, Koteswara Rao wrote: I am trying to run unit test cases in neutron code using “tox –e py27” but it is not working. [...] 'TOX_INDEX_URL': 'http://pypi.openstack.org/openstack', [...] 'PIP_INDEX_URL': 'http://pypi.openstack.org/openstack', [...]

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-12 Thread Gordon Sim
On 09/12/2014 09:50 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: Zaqar supports once and only once delivery. For the transfer from Zaqar to consumers it does (providing the claim id can be recovered). For transfer from producers to Zaqar I believe it is more limited. If the connection to Zaqar fails during a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-12 Thread Gordon Sim
On 09/11/2014 07:46 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 09/10/2014 03:18 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: On 09/10/2014 09:58 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: Other OpenStack components can integrate with Zaqar to surface events to end users and to communicate with guest agents that run in the over-cloud layer.

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][all] switch from mysqldb to another eventlet aware mysql client

2014-09-12 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-09-12 12:41:42 +0200 (+0200), Ihar Hrachyshka wrote: [...] That said, those failures were solved by pinning the version of the library in openstack/requirements and those projects. This is in major contrast to how we handled the new testtools release just several weeks ago, when the

Re: [openstack-dev] [solum] Consistency of development environment

2014-09-12 Thread Alexander Vollschwitz
Hello Adrian, thanks for the quick reply, and sorry for my delayed response. On 09/03/2014 04:42 PM, Adrian Otto wrote: We have noticed lately that our devstack setup does not always work. [...] We have discussed ways to mitigate this. One idea was to select a particular devstack from a

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Design Summit planning

2014-09-12 Thread Eoghan Glynn
I visited the Paris Design Summit space on Monday and confirmed that it should be possible to split it in a way that would allow to have per-program contributors meetups on the Friday. The schedule would go as follows: Tuesday: cross-project workshops Wednesday, Thursday: traditional

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE=true in tox.ini

2014-09-12 Thread Brad Topol
+1!!! This is awesome. I *always* ran into this was about to get find . -name *.pyc -delete tattooed on the inside of my forearm. Now I don't have to. Thanks!!! --Brad Brad Topol, Ph.D. IBM Distinguished Engineer OpenStack (919) 543-0646 Internet: bto...@us.ibm.com Assistant: Kendra

Re: [openstack-dev] [solum] Consistency of development environment

2014-09-12 Thread Paul Czarkowski
While I installed dnsmasq 2.63 manually, they used Ubuntu 14.04 to get around the problem. Is it maybe time to upgrade the base for the dev env to 14.04, or would that cause many other problems? Have you tried that out? If you have a pointer to an appropriate 14.04 image I can configure in

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][all] switch from mysqldb to another eventlet aware mysql client

2014-09-12 Thread Mike Bayer
On Sep 12, 2014, at 7:20 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: Because we are in Feature Freeze. Now is the time for critical bug fixes only, as we start to stabalize the tree. Releasing dependent libraries that can cause breaks, for whatever reason, should be soundly avoided. If this was

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][all] switch from mysqldb to another eventlet aware mysql client

2014-09-12 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 12/09/14 16:33, Mike Bayer wrote: I agree with this, changing the MySQL driver now is not an option. That was not the proposal. The proposal was to introduce support to run against something different from MySQLdb + a gate job for that

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Propose adding StevenK to core reviewers

2014-09-12 Thread Jiří Stránský
On 9.9.2014 20:32, Gregory Haynes wrote: Hello everyone! I have been working on a meta-review of StevenK's reviews and I would like to propose him as a new member of our core team. +1 As I'm sure many have noticed, he has been above our stats requirements for several months now. More

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-12 Thread Victoria Martínez de la Cruz
2014-09-12 10:44 GMT-03:00 Gordon Sim g...@redhat.com: On 09/11/2014 07:46 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 09/10/2014 03:18 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: On 09/10/2014 09:58 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: Other OpenStack components can integrate with Zaqar to surface events to end users and to

Re: [openstack-dev] [metrics] Old reviews (2011) with strange uploaded dates in review.openstack.org

2014-09-12 Thread Daniel Izquierdo
On 12/09/14 15:38, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2014-09-12 11:54:19 +0200 (+0200), Daniel Izquierdo wrote: [...] And a question: was there a migration around the 2012-12-16 of the review system or some other noticeable event?. On such date there was around 1,200 submitted reviews, while around

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Design Summit planning

2014-09-12 Thread Russell Bryant
On 09/12/2014 07:37 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: If you think this is wrong and think the design summit suggestion website is a better way to do it, let me know why! If some programs really can't stand the 'etherpad/IRC' approach I'll see how we can spin up a limited instance. I think this is

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-12 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/12/2014 01:56 PM, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 09/12/2014 11:36 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Flavio Percoco wrote: On 09/12/2014 12:14 AM, Zane Bitter wrote: The final question is the one of arbitrary access to messages in the queue (or queue if you prefer). Flavio indicated that this

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE=true in tox.ini

2014-09-12 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 12, 2014, at 7:39 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: I assume you, gentle OpenStack developers, often find yourself in a hair tearing out moment of frustration about why local unit tests are doing completely insane things. The code that it is stack tracing on is no where to be

[openstack-dev] battling stale .pyc files

2014-09-12 Thread Mike Bayer
I’ve just found https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1368661, Unit tests sometimes fail because of stale pyc files”. The issue as stated in the report refers to the phenomenon of .pyc files that remain inappropriately, when switching branches or deleting files. Specifically, the kind of

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][all] switch from mysqldb to another eventlet aware mysql client

2014-09-12 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 12, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Ihar Hrachyshka ihrac...@redhat.com wrote: Signed PGP part On 12/09/14 13:20, Sean Dague wrote: On 09/12/2014 06:41 AM, Ihar Hrachyshka wrote: Some updates/concerns/questions. The status of introducing a new driver to gate is: - all the patches for

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE=true in tox.ini

2014-09-12 Thread Mike Bayer
On Sep 12, 2014, at 7:39 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: I assume you, gentle OpenStack developers, often find yourself in a hair tearing out moment of frustration about why local unit tests are doing completely insane things. The code that it is stack tracing on is no where to be

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE=true in tox.ini

2014-09-12 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/12/2014 11:21 AM, Mike Bayer wrote: On Sep 12, 2014, at 7:39 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: I assume you, gentle OpenStack developers, often find yourself in a hair tearing out moment of frustration about why local unit tests are doing completely insane things. The code that it

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][all] switch from mysqldb to another eventlet aware mysql client

2014-09-12 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/12/2014 11:19 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Sep 12, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Ihar Hrachyshka ihrac...@redhat.com wrote: Signed PGP part On 12/09/14 13:20, Sean Dague wrote: On 09/12/2014 06:41 AM, Ihar Hrachyshka wrote: Some updates/concerns/questions. The status of introducing a new

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][all] switch from mysqldb to another eventlet aware mysql client

2014-09-12 Thread Mike Bayer
On Sep 12, 2014, at 10:40 AM, Ihar Hrachyshka ihrac...@redhat.com wrote: Signed PGP part On 12/09/14 16:33, Mike Bayer wrote: I agree with this, changing the MySQL driver now is not an option. That was not the proposal. The proposal was to introduce support to run against something

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE=true in tox.ini

2014-09-12 Thread Mike Bayer
On Sep 12, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 09/12/2014 11:21 AM, Mike Bayer wrote: On Sep 12, 2014, at 7:39 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: I assume you, gentle OpenStack developers, often find yourself in a hair tearing out moment of frustration about why

Re: [openstack-dev] global-reqs on tooz pulls in worrisome transitive dep

2014-09-12 Thread Brant Knudson
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 2:17 AM, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: On my side (as the Debian package maintainer of OpenStack), I was more than happy to see that Ceilometer made the choice to use a Python module for memcache which supports Python 3. Currently python-memcache does *not*

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE=true in tox.ini

2014-09-12 Thread Mike Bayer
On Sep 12, 2014, at 11:33 AM, Mike Bayer mba...@redhat.com wrote: On Sep 12, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 09/12/2014 11:21 AM, Mike Bayer wrote: On Sep 12, 2014, at 7:39 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: I assume you, gentle OpenStack developers, often

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-dev][Cinder] FFE request for adding Huawei SDSHypervisor driver and connector

2014-09-12 Thread Thierry Carrez
Zhangni wrote: I'd like to request an Juno feature freeze exception for this blueprint and Spec: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/huawei-sdshypervisor-driver https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101688/ as implemented by the following patch:

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Design Summit planning

2014-09-12 Thread Anita Kuno
On 09/12/2014 07:37 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi everyone, I visited the Paris Design Summit space on Monday and confirmed that it should be possible to split it in a way that would allow to have per-program contributors meetups on the Friday. The schedule would go as follows: Tuesday:

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Design Summit planning

2014-09-12 Thread Thierry Carrez
Eoghan Glynn wrote: If you think this is wrong and think the design summit suggestion website is a better way to do it, let me know why! If some programs really can't stand the 'etherpad/IRC' approach I'll see how we can spin up a limited instance. +1 on a collaborative scheduling process

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Design Summit planning

2014-09-12 Thread Thierry Carrez
Russell Bryant wrote: On 09/12/2014 07:37 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: If you think this is wrong and think the design summit suggestion website is a better way to do it, let me know why! If some programs really can't stand the 'etherpad/IRC' approach I'll see how we can spin up a limited

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE=true in tox.ini

2014-09-12 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 12, 2014, at 11:21 AM, Mike Bayer mba...@redhat.com wrote: On Sep 12, 2014, at 7:39 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: I assume you, gentle OpenStack developers, often find yourself in a hair tearing out moment of frustration about why local unit tests are doing completely

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Design Summit planning

2014-09-12 Thread Thierry Carrez
Anita Kuno wrote: My question involves third party discussions. Now I know at least Neutron is going to have a chat about drivers which involves third party ci accounts as a supportive aspect of that discussion, but I am wondering about the framework for a discussion which I can recommend

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE=true in tox.ini

2014-09-12 Thread Julien Danjou
On Fri, Sep 12 2014, Sean Dague wrote: Which sets PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE=true in the unit tests. This prevents pyc files from being writen in your git tree (win!). It doesn't seem to impact what pip installs... and if anyone knows how to prevent those pyc files from getting created, that

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][all] switch from mysqldb to another eventlet aware mysql client

2014-09-12 Thread Johannes Erdfelt
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: I don’t think we will want to retroactively change the migration scripts (that’s not something we generally like to do), We don't allow semantic changes to migration scripts since people who have already run it won't get those

Re: [openstack-dev] battling stale .pyc files

2014-09-12 Thread Julien Danjou
On Fri, Sep 12 2014, Mike Bayer wrote: Just my 2.5c on this issue as to the approach I think is best. Leave the Python interpreter’s behavior as much as “normal” as possible in our default test environment. I definitely agree with all of that. :) -- Julien Danjou // Free Software hacker //

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][all] switch from mysqldb to another eventlet aware mysql client

2014-09-12 Thread Mike Bayer
On Sep 12, 2014, at 11:56 AM, Johannes Erdfelt johan...@erdfelt.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 12, 2014, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: I don’t think we will want to retroactively change the migration scripts (that’s not something we generally like to do), We don't allow semantic

Re: [openstack-dev] global-reqs on tooz pulls in worrisome transitive dep

2014-09-12 Thread Morgan Fainberg
I do not see python-memcache library in either keystone client’s requirements.txt[0] or test-requirements.txt[1]. For purposes of ensuring that we do not break people deploying auth_token in keystoneclient (for older releases) I don’t see the soft dependency on python-memcache from going away.

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [clients] [keystone] lack of retrying tokens leads to overall OpenStack fragility

2014-09-12 Thread Steven Hardy
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 08:43:22PM -0400, Jamie Lennox wrote: - Original Message - From: Steven Hardy sha...@redhat.com To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Sent: Friday, 12 September, 2014 12:21:52 AM Subject:

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE=true in tox.ini

2014-09-12 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/12/2014 11:33 AM, Mike Bayer wrote: On Sep 12, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 09/12/2014 11:21 AM, Mike Bayer wrote: On Sep 12, 2014, at 7:39 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: I assume you, gentle OpenStack developers, often find yourself in a hair

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE=true in tox.ini

2014-09-12 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/12/2014 11:52 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Sep 12, 2014, at 11:21 AM, Mike Bayer mba...@redhat.com wrote: On Sep 12, 2014, at 7:39 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: I assume you, gentle OpenStack developers, often find yourself in a hair tearing out moment of frustration about

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE=true in tox.ini

2014-09-12 Thread Mike Bayer
On Sep 12, 2014, at 12:03 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 09/12/2014 11:33 AM, Mike Bayer wrote: On Sep 12, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 09/12/2014 11:21 AM, Mike Bayer wrote: On Sep 12, 2014, at 7:39 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: I assume

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE=true in tox.ini

2014-09-12 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/12/2014 12:07 PM, Mike Bayer wrote: On Sep 12, 2014, at 12:03 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 09/12/2014 11:33 AM, Mike Bayer wrote: On Sep 12, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 09/12/2014 11:21 AM, Mike Bayer wrote: On Sep 12, 2014, at 7:39 AM, Sean

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE=true in tox.ini

2014-09-12 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-09-12 11:36:20 -0400 (-0400), Mike Bayer wrote: [...] not to mention PYTHONHASHSEED only works on Python 3. What is the issue in tox you’re referring to ? Huh? The overrides we added to numerous projects' tox.ini files to stem the breakage in Python 2.x unit tests from hash seed

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE=true in tox.ini

2014-09-12 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-09-12 12:07:41 -0400 (-0400), Mike Bayer wrote: [...] corresponding to PYTHONHASHSEED, right? That whole thing is Python 3 only. See other reply, but I really don't understand where you got that idea. Yes Python 2.x does not randomize the hash seed by default like Py3K (you have to

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] Tempest Bug triage

2014-09-12 Thread Mauro S M Rodrigues
On 09/11/2014 04:52 PM, David Kranz wrote: So we had a Bug Day this week and the results were a bit disappointing due to lack of participation. We went from 124 New bugs to 75. There were also many cases where bugs referred to logs that no longer existed. This suggests that we really need to

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE=true in tox.ini

2014-09-12 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-09-12 17:16:11 +0100 (+0100), Daniel P. Berrange wrote: [...] Agreed, the problem with stale .pyc files is that it never occurs to developers that .pyc files are causing the problem until after you've wasted (potentially hours of) time debugging the problem. Avoiding this pain for all

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE=true in tox.ini

2014-09-12 Thread Chris Dent
On Fri, 12 Sep 2014, Julien Danjou wrote: I guess the problem is more likely that testrepository load the tests From the source directory whereas maybe we could make it load them from what's installed into the venv? This rather ruins TDD doesn't it? -- Chris Dent tw:@anticdent freenode:cdent

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE=true in tox.ini

2014-09-12 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 04:23:09PM +, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2014-09-12 17:16:11 +0100 (+0100), Daniel P. Berrange wrote: [...] Agreed, the problem with stale .pyc files is that it never occurs to developers that .pyc files are causing the problem until after you've wasted

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][oslo] official recommendations to handle oslo-incubator sync requests

2014-09-12 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 There seems to be no objections to that wording, so I went forward and added it to [1], plus added the note about those rules to [2]. [1]: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo#Syncing_Code_from_Incubator [2]:

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][all] switch from mysqldb to another eventlet aware mysql client

2014-09-12 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 12/09/14 17:30, Mike Bayer wrote: On Sep 12, 2014, at 10:40 AM, Ihar Hrachyshka ihrac...@redhat.com wrote: Signed PGP part On 12/09/14 16:33, Mike Bayer wrote: I agree with this, changing the MySQL driver now is not an option. That

Re: [openstack-dev] masking X-Auth-Token in debug output - proposed consistency

2014-09-12 Thread Tripp, Travis S
From Jamie Lennox: We handle this in the keystoneclient Session object by just printing REDACTED or something similar. The problem with using a SHA1 is that for backwards compatability we often use the SHA1 of a PKI token as if it were a UUID token and so this is still sensitive data.

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][all] switch from mysqldb to another eventlet aware mysql client

2014-09-12 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 12, 2014, at 1:03 PM, Ihar Hrachyshka ihrac...@redhat.com wrote: Signed PGP part On 12/09/14 17:30, Mike Bayer wrote: On Sep 12, 2014, at 10:40 AM, Ihar Hrachyshka ihrac...@redhat.com wrote: Signed PGP part On 12/09/14 16:33, Mike Bayer wrote: I agree with this, changing the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Mark McLoughlin's message of 2014-09-12 03:27:42 -0700: On Wed, 2014-09-10 at 14:51 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: Flavio Percoco wrote: [...] Based on the feedback from the meeting[3], the current main concern is: - Do we need a messaging service with a feature-set

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-12 00:22:35 -0700: On 09/12/2014 03:29 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-09-11 15:21:26 -0700: On 09/09/14 19:56, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Samuel Merritt's message of 2014-09-09 16:12:09 -0700: On

[openstack-dev] [nova] Expand resource name allowed characters

2014-09-12 Thread Chris St. Pierre
We have proposed that the allowed characters for all resource names in Nova (flavors, aggregates, etc.) be expanded to all printable unicode characters and horizontal spaces: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119741 Currently, the only allowed characters in most resource names are alphanumeric,

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE=true in tox.ini

2014-09-12 Thread Mike Bayer
On Sep 12, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Jeremy Stanley fu...@yuggoth.org wrote: On 2014-09-12 11:36:20 -0400 (-0400), Mike Bayer wrote: [...] not to mention PYTHONHASHSEED only works on Python 3. What is the issue in tox you’re referring to ? Huh? The overrides we added to numerous projects'

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE=true in tox.ini

2014-09-12 Thread Mike Bayer
On Sep 12, 2014, at 12:29 PM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 04:23:09PM +, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2014-09-12 17:16:11 +0100 (+0100), Daniel P. Berrange wrote: [...] Agreed, the problem with stale .pyc files is that it never occurs to developers

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Design Summit planning

2014-09-12 Thread Anita Kuno
On 09/12/2014 11:54 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Anita Kuno wrote: My question involves third party discussions. Now I know at least Neutron is going to have a chat about drivers which involves third party ci accounts as a supportive aspect of that discussion, but I am wondering about the

[openstack-dev] [Octavia] Responsibilities for controller drivers

2014-09-12 Thread Brandon Logan
IN IRC the topic came up about supporting many-to-many load balancers to amphorae. I believe a consensus was made that allowing only one-to-many load balancers to amphorae would be the first step forward, and re-evaluate later, since colocation and apolocation will need to work (which brings up

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