Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] DVR Tunnel Design Question

2014-09-18 Thread Narasimhan, Vivekanandan
Hi Kevin, Typically we noticed that the underlay switches maintained a table like this: VLAN IDMAC Address Learned-Interface In the physical underlay, with the current architecture if we enable VLAN, the same DVR Unique MAC will appear on different VLANs as the packets get DVR

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Ipset, merge refactor for J?

2014-09-18 Thread Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo
Ack, thank you for the feedback. I will put it in WIP until we reach Kilo. We will track any new bugfixes or changes so the refactor is ready for early kilo, then after this is merged I will tackle a second refactor to extract Ipset out as we planned, into a new driver which extends

Re: [openstack-dev] [MagnetoDB] Core developer nomination

2014-09-18 Thread Illia Khudoshyn
Congrats, Charles! Great job! On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 12:05 AM, Ilya Sviridov isviri...@mirantis.com wrote: Hello magnetodb contributors, I'm glad to nominate Charles Wang to core developers of MagnetoDB. He is top non-core reviewer [1], implemented notifications [2] in mdb and made a

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] DVR Tunnel Design Question

2014-09-18 Thread Kevin Benton
This sounds like a bug in Openvswitch. The unique constraint should be VLAN+MAC instead of just VLAN, so observing the same MAC on a new VLAN should just result in a new entry without the old one being ejected. Without this behavior, it will also break transparent L2 firewalls. For example

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Set WIP for stale patches?

2014-09-18 Thread mar...@redhat.com
On 17/09/14 16:40, Charles Crouch wrote: - Original Message - Hi, as part of general housekeeping on our reviews, it was discussed at last week's meeting [1] that we should set workflow -1 for stale reviews (like gerrit used to do when I were a lad). The specific criteria

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Set WIP for stale patches?

2014-09-18 Thread mar...@redhat.com
On 18/09/14 00:29, James Polley wrote: On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 6:26 PM, mar...@redhat.com mailto:mar...@redhat.com mandr...@redhat.com mailto:mandr...@redhat.com wrote: Hi, as part of general housekeeping on our reviews, it was discussed at last week's meeting [1] that we

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-18 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
Ian Cordasco ian.corda...@rackspace.com writes: urllib3 do that automatically. I haven’t started to investigate exactly why they do this. Likewise, glance client has custom certificate verification in glanceclient.common.https. Why? I’m not exactly certain this probably come from pre-requests

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Convergence - persistence desired and observed state

2014-09-18 Thread Murugan, Visnusaran
Yeah. Unmesh, we need to have ResourcePropertiesObserved. The columns too need to be as mentioned in blueprint. Having all properties under a single json will cause concurrency issues. -Vishnu -Original Message- From: Qiming Teng [mailto:teng...@linux.vnet.ibm.com] Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] zeromq work for kilo

2014-09-18 Thread James Page
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 17/09/14 15:34, Doug Hellmann wrote: This thread [1] has turned more “future focused, so I’m moving the conversation to the -dev list where we usually have those sorts of discussions. [...] I'd also like to document the current design of the

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-18 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/18/2014 04:43 AM, Donald Stufft wrote: On Sep 17, 2014, at 10:24 PM, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org mailto:z...@debian.org wrote: On 09/18/2014 08:22 AM, Morgan Fainberg wrote: I think that all of the conversation to this point has been valuable, the general consensus is vendoring a

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Design Summit planning

2014-09-18 Thread Thierry Carrez
Maish Saidel-Keesing wrote: On 17/09/2014 23:12, Anita Kuno wrote: On 09/17/2014 04:01 PM, Maish Saidel-Keesing wrote: This looks great - but I am afraid that something might be missing. As part of the Design summit in Atlanta there was an Ops Meetup track. [1] I do not see where this fits

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Set WIP for stale patches?

2014-09-18 Thread James Polley
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 5:21 PM, mar...@redhat.com mandr...@redhat.com wrote: On 17/09/14 16:40, Charles Crouch wrote: - Original Message - Hi, as part of general housekeeping on our reviews, it was discussed at last week's meeting [1] that we should set workflow -1 for

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Set WIP for stale patches?

2014-09-18 Thread Sullivan, Jon Paul
-Original Message- From: James E. Blair [mailto:cor...@inaugust.com] Sent: 17 September 2014 23:24 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Set WIP for stale patches? Sullivan, Jon Paul jonpaul.sulli...@hp.com writes:

[openstack-dev] [heat] Persist graph for convergence

2014-09-18 Thread Murugan, Visnusaran
Hi All, Below is the model proposal for persisting ResourceGraph. Column name Type Constraint resource_id varchar(36) NOT NULL ForeignKey resource.id needed_by varchar(36) NULL ForeignKey resource.id stack_id varchar(36) NOT NULL ForeignKey stack.id retry_count Integer Default (0)

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] zeromq work for kilo

2014-09-18 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/17/2014 04:34 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: This thread [1] has turned more “future focused, so I’m moving the conversation to the -dev list where we usually have those sorts of discussions. [1] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack/2014-September/009253.html I saw this

Re: [openstack-dev] [Congress] Nominating Aaron Rosen for congress-core

2014-09-18 Thread Rajdeep Dua
+1 On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Tim Hinrichs thinri...@vmware.com wrote: +1 Tim On Sep 12, 2014, at 11:47 AM, Sean Roberts seanrobert...@gmail.com wrote: +1 ~sean On Sep 12, 2014, at 11:28 AM, Peter Balland pball...@vmware.com wrote: Hello, I would like to nominate

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Persist graph for convergence

2014-09-18 Thread Gurjar, Unmesh
Additions/comments inline below. Thanks, Unmesh G. From: Murugan, Visnusaran Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 1:46 PM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: [openstack-dev] [heat] Persist graph for convergence Hi All, Below is the model proposal for persisting ResourceGraph. Column

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][Architecture]Suggestions for the third vendors' plugin and driver

2014-09-18 Thread Germy Lure
Hi Trinath, I think the vendor company has many experts to review their codes. They can do it well. But I still have some comments inline. Germy On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 1:42 PM, trinath.soman...@freescale.com trinath.soman...@freescale.com wrote: Though Code reviews for vendor code takes

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] DVR Tunnel Design Question

2014-09-18 Thread Narasimhan, Vivekanandan
Yes... If I recollect, we were using 1.10.x version during that time (wherein discovered this as output of ovsapp-ctl fdb-show). After that I didn’t get time to re-verify on later versions of openvswitch. BTW, if this is not intended behaviour, then I donot see any particular reason why VLANs

[openstack-dev] [nova] Nova API meeting

2014-09-18 Thread Christopher Yeoh
Hi, Just a reminder that the weekly Nova API meeting is being held tomorrow Friday UTC . We encourage cloud operators and those who use the REST API such as SDK developers and others who and are interested in the future of the API to participate. In other timezones the meeting is at: EST

[openstack-dev] [Heat][Zaqar] Integration plan moving forward

2014-09-18 Thread Flavio Percoco
Greetings, If I recall correctly, Heat was planning to adopt Zaqar regardless of the result of the graduation attempt (please correct me if I'm wrong). Based on this assumption, I'd like to start working on a plan forward to make this integration happen. So far, these are the use cases I've

Re: [openstack-dev] [MagnetoDB] Core developer nomination

2014-09-18 Thread Dmitriy Ukhlov
+1 from me, Charles is very active contributor and I guess if we have such developer in core team MagnetoDB project will become much better that it is now. On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Illia Khudoshyn ikhudos...@mirantis.com wrote: Congrats, Charles! Great job! On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] DVR Tunnel Design Question

2014-09-18 Thread Kevin Benton
To enable dvr, I need to post a minor patch in L2 agent to bring-in DVR rules into Phys bridges (as VLANs are driven by phys bridges in OVS L2 Agent). Great! You read my mind and answered my follow-up question. :-) Let me know if there is anything I can help with. On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 1:51

[openstack-dev] [Neutron] Gate bugs for RC-1

2014-09-18 Thread Salvatore Orlando
Bug 1357055 [1] and 1323658 [2] affect neutron jobs and are among the top gate offenders. With this kind of bugs, it's hard to tell whether the root cause lies with neutron, nova, tempest, or even cirros. However, it is not ok that these bugs are not assigned in neutron. We need to have some

[openstack-dev] [neutron][db] Ensuring db isolation between tests

2014-09-18 Thread Maru Newby
For legacy reasons, the Neutron test suite creates and destroys a db for each test. There is a patch proposed to create the tables once and then ensure the tables are wiped at the end of each test [1], providing a performance improvement of ~10%. I was wondering if this is the best way to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat][Zaqar] Integration plan moving forward

2014-09-18 Thread Angus Salkeld
On 18/09/2014 7:11 PM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: Greetings, If I recall correctly, Heat was planning to adopt Zaqar regardless of the result of the graduation attempt (please correct me if I'm wrong). Based on this assumption, I'd like to start working on a plan forward to

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][db] Ensuring db isolation between tests

2014-09-18 Thread Salvatore Orlando
Nested commits in sqlalchemy should be seen as a single transaction on the backend, shouldn't they? I don't know anything about this specific problem, but the fact that unit tests use sqlite might be a reason, since it's not really a full DBMS... I think that wrapping tests in transaction also

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-18 Thread Alan Pevec
2014-09-17 17:15 GMT+02:00 Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org: File bla/tests/test_ssl.py, line 19, in module from requests.packages.urllib3 import poolmanager ImportError: No module named packages.urllib3 This is in tests only, in runtime code there is conditional import of vendorized

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Weekly IRC: let's cancel the meeting tomorrow

2014-09-18 Thread Vladimir Kozhukalov
+1 for canceling on 9/18/2014. As for 9/25/2014, let's make a decision later. Vladimir Kozhukalov On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Mike Scherbakov mscherba...@mirantis.com wrote: Hi Fuelers, as we have mini-summit in CA and majority of leads is busy with it, let's cancel the meeting

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] are we going to remove the novaclient v3 shell or what?

2014-09-18 Thread Day, Phil
-Original Message- From: Kenichi Oomichi [mailto:oomi...@mxs.nes.nec.co.jp] Sent: 18 September 2014 02:44 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] are we going to remove the novaclient v3 shell or what? -Original

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Expand resource name allowed characters

2014-09-18 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 06:48:19 -0400 Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 09/13/2014 02:28 AM, Kenichi Oomichi wrote: Hi Chris, Thanks for bring it up here, -Original Message- From: Chris St. Pierre [mailto:stpie...@metacloud.com] Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 2:53

Re: [openstack-dev] PostgreSQL jobs slow in the gate

2014-09-18 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/17/2014 11:50 PM, Clark Boylan wrote: On Wed, Sep 17, 2014, at 06:48 PM, Clark Boylan wrote: On Wed, Sep 17, 2014, at 06:37 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 9/17/2014 7:59 PM, Ian Wienand wrote: On 09/18/2014 09:49 AM, Clark Boylan wrote: Recent sampling of test run times shows that our

Re: [openstack-dev] [Infra][Cinder] Coraid CI system

2014-09-18 Thread Mykola Grygoriev
Dear community members, Please have a look to Coraid CI system - http://38.111.159.9:8080/job/CoraidCI/ We have done all requirements for Third Party CI system, provided here - http://ci.openstack.org/third_party.html#requirements Please look at Coraid third-party system one more time and,

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Expand resource name allowed characters

2014-09-18 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/18/2014 06:38 AM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 06:48:19 -0400 Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 09/13/2014 02:28 AM, Kenichi Oomichi wrote: Hi Chris, Thanks for bring it up here, -Original Message- From: Chris St. Pierre [mailto:stpie...@metacloud.com]

Re: [openstack-dev] [zaqar] Signing Off from Core

2014-09-18 Thread Malini Kamalambal
Thank You Alej – not just for the tons of code you wrote for Zaqar, but also in making Zaqar a fun, open and welcoming part of the community! Good Luck for everything ahead! From: Victoria Martínez de la Cruz victo...@vmartinezdelacruz.commailto:victo...@vmartinezdelacruz.com Reply-To:

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Expand resource name allowed characters

2014-09-18 Thread Ken'ichi Ohmichi
2014-09-18 19:57 GMT+09:00 Sean Dague s...@dague.net: On 09/18/2014 06:38 AM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 06:48:19 -0400 Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: We have proposed that the allowed characters for all resource names in Nova (flavors, aggregates, etc.) be expanded to all

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Expand resource name allowed characters

2014-09-18 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/18/2014 07:19 AM, Ken'ichi Ohmichi wrote: 2014-09-18 19:57 GMT+09:00 Sean Dague s...@dague.net: On 09/18/2014 06:38 AM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 06:48:19 -0400 Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: We have proposed that the allowed characters for all resource names in

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-18 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/17/2014 10:36 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: Hi All, My understanding of Zaqar is that it's like SQS. SQS uses distributed queues, which have a few unusual properties [0]: Message Order Amazon SQS makes a best effort to preserve order in messages, but due to the distributed nature

Re: [openstack-dev] [MagnetoDB] Core developer nomination

2014-09-18 Thread Ajaya Agrawal
+1 Cheers, Ajaya On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Dmitriy Ukhlov dukh...@mirantis.com wrote: +1 from me, Charles is very active contributor and I guess if we have such developer in core team MagnetoDB project will become much better that it is now. On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Illia

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-18 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 09/18/2014 04:01 PM, Flavio Percoco wrote: After having gone through the whole thread and read all the concerns, problems and reasonings, I think we should stick to requests as-is for now and deal with this particular issue. Regardless of the vendorized urllib3 package, I believe requests

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Expand resource name allowed characters

2014-09-18 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/18/2014 01:28 PM, Sean Dague wrote: On 09/18/2014 07:19 AM, Ken'ichi Ohmichi wrote: 2014-09-18 19:57 GMT+09:00 Sean Dague s...@dague.net: On 09/18/2014 06:38 AM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 06:48:19 -0400 Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: We have proposed that the

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-18 Thread Donald Stufft
On Sep 18, 2014, at 7:43 AM, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: On 09/18/2014 04:01 PM, Flavio Percoco wrote: After having gone through the whole thread and read all the concerns, problems and reasonings, I think we should stick to requests as-is for now and deal with this particular

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-18 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 09/18/2014 10:43 AM, Donald Stufft wrote: Obviously we can work with the requests team to figure out the best approach. There's only a single approach that works: have the requests upstream authors to stop embedding foreign code, and use the dependency instead. There are legitimate

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-18 Thread Donald Stufft
On Sep 18, 2014, at 7:54 AM, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: Linux distributions are not the end be all of distribution models and they don’t get to dictate to upstream. Well, distributions is where the final user is, and where software gets consumed. Our priority should be the

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Set WIP for stale patches?

2014-09-18 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-09-18 08:06:11 + (+), Sullivan, Jon Paul wrote: In my experience if the check results are not fresh enough the recheck is automatically run. I am not on the infra team, so without looking up code I am just guessing, but my guess is that the workflow score change triggers the

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] are we going to remove the novaclient v3 shell or what?

2014-09-18 Thread Alex Xu
On 2014年09月18日 18:14, Day, Phil wrote: -Original Message- From: Kenichi Oomichi [mailto:oomi...@mxs.nes.nec.co.jp] Sent: 18 September 2014 02:44 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] are we going to remove the novaclient v3

[openstack-dev] [Rally] Load testing of dependent resources

2014-09-18 Thread Ilya Shakhat
Ralliers, I'd like to share with you an idea on how to test dependent resources. Let's consider the following example: there is a network and ports belonging to it and we would like to test port creation process. Currently I see 2 options of writing scenario: a) The scenario creates network and

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-18 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote: Distributions are not the only place that people get their software from, unless you think that the ~3 million downloads requests has received on PyPI in the last 30 days are distributions downloading requests to package

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-18 Thread Donald Stufft
On Sep 18, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Chmouel Boudjnah chmo...@enovance.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io mailto:don...@stufft.io wrote: Distributions are not the only place that people get their software from, unless you think that the ~3 million

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] are we going to remove the novaclient v3 shell or what?

2014-09-18 Thread Ken'ichi Ohmichi
2014-09-18 21:31 GMT+09:00 Alex Xu x...@linux.vnet.ibm.com: On 2014年09月18日 18:14, Day, Phil wrote: -Original Message- From: Kenichi Oomichi [mailto:oomi...@mxs.nes.nec.co.jp] Sent: 18 September 2014 02:44 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re:

[openstack-dev] [blazar]: proposal for a new lease type

2014-09-18 Thread Lisa
Hi all, my name is Lisa Zangrando and I work at the Italian National Institute for Nuclear Physics (INFN). In particular I am leading a team which is addressing the issue concerning the efficiency in the resource usage in OpenStack. Currently OpenStack allows just a static partitioning model

[openstack-dev] [requirements][horizon] Dependency freeze exceptions

2014-09-18 Thread Radomir Dopieralski
Hello, I would like to request dependency freeze exceptions for the following patches for Horizon: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121509/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122410/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113184/ They are all fixing high priority bugs. The first two are related

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][L3] Sub team meeting cancelled

2014-09-18 Thread Carl Baldwin
I have a conflict today. Keep working on RC1. Carl ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [blazar]: proposal for a new lease type

2014-09-18 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Le 18/09/2014 15:27, Lisa a écrit : Hi all, my name is Lisa Zangrando and I work at the Italian National Institute for Nuclear Physics (INFN). In particular I am leading a team which is addressing the issue concerning the efficiency in the resource usage in OpenStack. Currently OpenStack

[openstack-dev] Oslo final releases ready

2014-09-18 Thread Doug Hellmann
All of the final releases for the Oslo libraries for the Juno cycle are available on PyPI. I’m working on a couple of patches to the global requirements list to update the baseline in the applications. In all cases, the final release is a second tag on a previously released version. -

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-18 Thread Gordon Sim
On 09/18/2014 12:31 PM, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 09/17/2014 10:36 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: My understanding of Zaqar is that it's like SQS. SQS uses distributed queues, which have a few unusual properties [0]: Message Order Amazon SQS makes a best effort to preserve order in messages, but

Re: [openstack-dev] PostgreSQL jobs slow in the gate

2014-09-18 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 9/18/2014 5:49 AM, Sean Dague wrote: On 09/17/2014 11:50 PM, Clark Boylan wrote: On Wed, Sep 17, 2014, at 06:48 PM, Clark Boylan wrote: On Wed, Sep 17, 2014, at 06:37 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 9/17/2014 7:59 PM, Ian Wienand wrote: On 09/18/2014 09:49 AM, Clark Boylan wrote: Recent

Re: [openstack-dev] PostgreSQL jobs slow in the gate

2014-09-18 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 9/18/2014 12:35 AM, Morgan Fainberg wrote: -Original Message- From: Dean Troyer dtro...@gmail.com Reply: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: September 17, 2014 at 21:21:47 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Expand resource name allowed characters

2014-09-18 Thread Chris St. Pierre
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 4:19 AM, Ken'ichi Ohmichi ken1ohmi...@gmail.com wrote: Correct validation history is Essex: use anything you want! Folsom: strict asci! [..] Juno: strict asci! I'm not sure that's quite right. My patch doesn't actually add Unicode support; that was already added in

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] zeromq work for kilo

2014-09-18 Thread Kapil Thangavelu
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 4:18 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/17/2014 04:34 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: This thread [1] has turned more “future focused, so I’m moving the conversation to the -dev list where we usually have those sorts of discussions. [1]

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-18 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Donald Stufft's message of 2014-09-18 04:58:06 -0700: On Sep 18, 2014, at 7:54 AM, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: Linux distributions are not the end be all of distribution models and they don’t get to dictate to upstream. Well, distributions is where the

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-18 Thread Ian Cordasco
On 9/17/14, 9:24 PM, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: On 09/18/2014 08:22 AM, Morgan Fainberg wrote: I think that all of the conversation to this point has been valuable, the general consensus is vendoring a library is not as desirable as using it strictly as a dependency. It would be

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-18 Thread Ian Cordasco
On 9/18/14, 2:27 AM, Chmouel Boudjnah chmo...@enovance.com wrote: Ian Cordasco ian.corda...@rackspace.com writes: urllib3 do that automatically. I haven’t started to investigate exactly why they do this. Likewise, glance client has custom certificate verification in

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-18 Thread Clint Byrum
Great job highlighting what our friends over at Amazon are doing. It's clear from these snippets, and a few other pieces of documentation for SQS I've read, that the Amazon team approached SQS from a _massive_ scaling perspective. I think what may be forcing a lot of this frustration with Zaqar

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-18 Thread Donald Stufft
On Sep 18, 2014, at 10:18 AM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Donald Stufft's message of 2014-09-18 04:58:06 -0700: On Sep 18, 2014, at 7:54 AM, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: Linux distributions are not the end be all of distribution models and they don’t

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][db] Ensuring db isolation between tests

2014-09-18 Thread Mike Bayer
I’ve done a lot of work on this issue and from my perspective, the code is mostly ready to go, however we’re in an extended phase of getting folks to sign off as well as that I’m waiting for some last-minute fixup from Robert Collins. Patch: [1] Blueprint, which is to be moved to Kilo: [2]

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-18 Thread Ian Cordasco
On 9/18/14, 9:18 AM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Donald Stufft's message of 2014-09-18 04:58:06 -0700: On Sep 18, 2014, at 7:54 AM, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: Linux distributions are not the end be all of distribution models and they don’t get to

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Set WIP for stale patches?

2014-09-18 Thread James Polley
On 18 Sep 2014, at 6:06 pm, Sullivan, Jon Paul jonpaul.sulli...@hp.com wrote: -Original Message- From: James E. Blair [mailto:cor...@inaugust.com] Sent: 17 September 2014 23:24 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO]

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-18 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/18/2014 04:09 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: On 09/18/2014 12:31 PM, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 09/17/2014 10:36 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: My understanding of Zaqar is that it's like SQS. SQS uses distributed queues, which have a few unusual properties [0]: Message Order Amazon SQS makes a

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Set WIP for stale patches?

2014-09-18 Thread James E. Blair
Sullivan, Jon Paul jonpaul.sulli...@hp.com writes: This is not solely about finding reviews. It is about pruning stale reviews. I think the auto-abandon code was excellent at doing this, but alas, it is no more. What's the purpose of pruning stale reviews? I've read the IRC log of the

[openstack-dev] [MagnetoDB] Async create/delete table

2014-09-18 Thread Illia Khudoshyn
Hi stackers, We're about to introduce asynchronous table creation and deletion in MagnetoDB via oslo.messaging. The draft specification is availiable by the link below. https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/MagnetoDB/specs/async-schema-operations Please share your thoughts -- Best regards, Illia

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-18 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/18/2014 04:24 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Great job highlighting what our friends over at Amazon are doing. It's clear from these snippets, and a few other pieces of documentation for SQS I've read, that the Amazon team approached SQS from a _massive_ scaling perspective. I think what may

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] zeromq work for kilo

2014-09-18 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/18/2014 04:16 PM, Kapil Thangavelu wrote: On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 4:18 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com mailto:fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/17/2014 04:34 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: This thread [1] has turned more “future focused, so I’m moving the conversation to the

Re: [openstack-dev] [blazar]: proposal for a new lease type

2014-09-18 Thread Lisa
Hi Sylvain, thanks a lot for your answer. I'd like to extend (if possible) the BLAZAR's list of the supported lease types by adding a new one which covers a specific use case which, it seems, it is not yet supported by BLAZAR. You know, In OpenStack every project has a granted fixed quota

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] zeromq work for kilo

2014-09-18 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Kapil, I see just 2 relevant reviews for zmq in the oslo.messaging queue: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/oslo.messaging+status:open+file:%255E.*zmq.*,n,z Are there others i am missing? (fix critical items, tests from your email) thanks, dims On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 10:16

Re: [openstack-dev] Oslo final releases ready

2014-09-18 Thread Davanum Srinivas
w00t! -- dims On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: All of the final releases for the Oslo libraries for the Juno cycle are available on PyPI. I’m working on a couple of patches to the global requirements list to update the baseline in the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-18 Thread Steve Lewis
On September 18, 2014 7:45 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 09/18/2014 04:09 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: However, as far as consuming messages is concerned, it can guarantee once-and-only-once and/or at-least-once delivery depending on the message pattern used to consume messages. Using pop or claims

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-18 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/18/2014 05:42 PM, Steve Lewis wrote: On September 18, 2014 7:45 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 09/18/2014 04:09 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: However, as far as consuming messages is concerned, it can guarantee once-and-only-once and/or at-least-once delivery depending on the message pattern

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-18 Thread Devananda van der Veen
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 7:45 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/18/2014 04:09 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: On 09/18/2014 12:31 PM, Flavio Percoco wrote: Zaqar guarantees FIFO. To be more precise, it does that relying on the storage backend ability to do so as well. Depending on the

[openstack-dev] [ceilometer] Performance degradation (docs) for sampling rate less than 10 mins

2014-09-18 Thread Srikanta Patanjali
Hi Team, I was considering to change the default sampling rate of the Ceilometer from 10 mins to less than that. I foresee an adverse impact on its performance due to increase in the data inside the MondoDB. I was wondering if the QA team (or anyone else) has done any of the load tests with

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-18 Thread Devananda van der Veen
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 7:55 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/18/2014 04:24 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Great job highlighting what our friends over at Amazon are doing. It's clear from these snippets, and a few other pieces of documentation for SQS I've read, that the Amazon team

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Expand resource name allowed characters

2014-09-18 Thread Alex Xu
On 2014年09月18日 18:57, Sean Dague wrote: On 09/18/2014 06:38 AM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 06:48:19 -0400 Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 09/13/2014 02:28 AM, Kenichi Oomichi wrote: Hi Chris, Thanks for bring it up here, -Original Message- From: Chris St.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Rally] Load testing of dependent resources

2014-09-18 Thread Boris Pavlovic
Ilya, It sounds good, moreover few other devs asked about similar feature=) So I am working on proposal how to implement this=) Best regards, On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Ilya Shakhat ishak...@mirantis.com wrote: Ralliers, I'd like to share with you an idea on how to test dependent

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Expand resource name allowed characters

2014-09-18 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/18/2014 12:08 PM, Alex Xu wrote: On 2014年09月18日 18:57, Sean Dague wrote: On 09/18/2014 06:38 AM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 06:48:19 -0400 Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 09/13/2014 02:28 AM, Kenichi Oomichi wrote: Hi Chris, Thanks for bring it up here,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Horizon] CORS and Federation

2014-09-18 Thread Adam Young
On 09/17/2014 11:56 AM, Matthieu Huin wrote: Hi, - Original Message - From: Adam Young ayo...@redhat.com To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 5:00:16 PM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Horizon] CORS and Federation On 09/17/2014 10:35 AM,

Re: [openstack-dev] Oslo final releases ready

2014-09-18 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 09/18/2014 10:04 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: All of the final releases for the Oslo libraries for the Juno cycle are available on PyPI. I’m working on a couple of patches to the global requirements list to update the baseline in the applications. In all cases, the final release is a second

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Horizon] CORS and Federation

2014-09-18 Thread David Chadwick
Adam I agree with you David On 18/09/2014 17:17, Adam Young wrote: On 09/17/2014 11:53 AM, Marek Denis wrote: Hi, First of all, we should clarify whether your JS client wants to implement ECP or WebSSO workflow. They are slightly different. ECP seems to be poorly supported in live

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-18 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Donald Stufft's message of 2014-09-18 07:30:27 -0700: On Sep 18, 2014, at 10:18 AM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Donald Stufft's message of 2014-09-18 04:58:06 -0700: On Sep 18, 2014, at 7:54 AM, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: Linux

[openstack-dev] [Keystone][Oslo] Federation and Policy

2014-09-18 Thread David Chadwick
Our recent work on federation suggests we need an improvement to the way the policy engine works. My understanding is that most functions are protected by the policy engine, but some are not. The latter functions are publicly accessible. But there is no way in the policy engine to specify public

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-18 Thread Donald Stufft
On Sep 18, 2014, at 12:29 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Donald Stufft's message of 2014-09-18 07:30:27 -0700: On Sep 18, 2014, at 10:18 AM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Donald Stufft's message of 2014-09-18 04:58:06 -0700: On Sep 18, 2014,

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-18 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Ian Cordasco's message of 2014-09-18 07:35:10 -0700: On 9/18/14, 9:18 AM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Donald Stufft's message of 2014-09-18 04:58:06 -0700: On Sep 18, 2014, at 7:54 AM, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: Linux

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-18 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Devananda van der Veen devananda@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 7:55 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/18/2014 04:24 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Great job highlighting what our friends over at Amazon are doing. It's clear from

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-18 Thread Devananda van der Veen
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Devananda van der Veen devananda@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 7:45 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/18/2014 04:09 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: On 09/18/2014 12:31 PM, Flavio Percoco wrote: Zaqar guarantees FIFO. To be more precise, it

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-18 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 7:45 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/18/2014 04:09 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: On 09/18/2014 12:31 PM, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 09/17/2014 10:36 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: My understanding of Zaqar is that it's like SQS. SQS uses distributed queues, which

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-18 Thread Ian Cordasco
On 9/18/14, 11:29 AM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Donald Stufft's message of 2014-09-18 07:30:27 -0700: On Sep 18, 2014, at 10:18 AM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Donald Stufft's message of 2014-09-18 04:58:06 -0700: On Sep 18, 2014, at

[openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Work at bug Ceilometer HBase driver cannot handle non-ascii characters

2014-09-18 Thread Ilya Tyaptin
Hi, folks! I want to engage this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1350826 [1]. But fixing of this bug has raised question. Issue is that happybase does not support unicode symbols and approaches to processing unicode symbols is needed to discuss. I suggest next variants: 1. Anyway

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer] Performance degradation (docs) for sampling rate less than 10 mins

2014-09-18 Thread Ilya Tyaptin
Hi Patanjali! We have inspected this question and got a document with results of this testing. Tests are running on physical lab and includes 2000 VMs ran by Nova and 60 second polling interval. Expanded information in doc

[openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-18 Thread Monty Taylor
Hey all, I've recently been thinking a lot about Sean's Layers stuff. So I wrote a blog post which Jim Blair and Devananda were kind enough to help me edit. http://inaugust.com/post/108 Enjoy. Monty ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-18 Thread Gordon Sim
On 09/18/2014 03:45 PM, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 09/18/2014 04:09 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: Is the replication synchronous or asynchronous with respect to client calls? E.g. will the response to a post of messages be returned only once the replication of those messages is confirmed? Likewise when

Re: [openstack-dev] Log Rationalization -- Bring it on!

2014-09-18 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 17, 2014, at 7:42 PM, Rochelle.RochelleGrober rochelle.gro...@huawei.com wrote: TL;DR: I consider the poor state of log consistency a major impediment for more widespread adoption of OpenStack and would like to volunteer to own this cross-functional process to begin to unify and

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