Re: [openstack-dev] Oslo final releases ready

2014-09-19 Thread Michael Still
I would like to do a python-novaclient release, but this requirements commit hasn't yet turned into a requirements proposal for novaclient (that I can find). Can someone poke that for me? Michael On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 12:04 AM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: All of the final

Re: [openstack-dev] Oslo final releases ready

2014-09-19 Thread Joshua Hesketh
Howdy, I did some digging and it appears because the proposal bot failed and skipped out updating keystone-specs: http://logs.openstack.org/c2/c2372ca3ef6c3ced31934429aecf830daafe583a/post/propose-requirements-updates/e9bbc05/console.html#_2014-09-18_22_56_42_181 (the exit comes from here:

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Some ideas for micro-version implementation

2014-09-19 Thread Alex Xu
Close to Kilo, it is time to think about what's next for nova API. In Kilo, we will continue develop the important feature micro-version. In previous v2 on v3 propose, it's include some implementations can be used for micro-version.

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Propose adding StevenK to core reviewers

2014-09-19 Thread Steve Kowalik
On 19/09/14 12:22, Robert Collins wrote: So we've clearly got a majority support :) - Steve, you up for the challenge? I solemnly swear I am up to no go... Wait, that isn't the quote I'm after. :-) I'm delighted to say I'm up for and welcome the challenge. Cheers, --

Re: [openstack-dev] battling stale .pyc files

2014-09-19 Thread Vishvananda Ishaya
On Sep 15, 2014, at 4:34 AM, Lucas Alvares Gomes lucasago...@gmail.com wrote: So, although I like the fix proposed and I would +1 that idea, I'm also not very concerned if most of the people don't want that. Because as you just said we can fix it locally easily. I didn't set it to my .local

Re: [openstack-dev] [requirements][horizon] Dependency freeze exceptions

2014-09-19 Thread Thierry Carrez
Radomir Dopieralski wrote: I would like to request dependency freeze exceptions for the following patches for Horizon: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121509/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122410/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113184/ They are all fixing high priority

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-19 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/18/2014 09:25 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: On 09/18/2014 03:45 PM, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 09/18/2014 04:09 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: Is the replication synchronous or asynchronous with respect to client calls? E.g. will the response to a post of messages be returned only once the replication of

Re: [openstack-dev] Oslo final releases ready

2014-09-19 Thread Thierry Carrez
Thomas Goirand wrote: However, I made a small mistake. I used 1.4.0.0~a5 instead of 1.4.0~a5. As a consequence, I may upload 1.4.0.0 instead of 1.4.0, so that it is greater than 1.4.0.0~a5 (to avoid adding an EPOC, which is ugly and annoying to maintain). It's going to be the same version

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-19 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/18/2014 07:19 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 7:45 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com mailto:fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/18/2014 04:09 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: On 09/18/2014 12:31 PM, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 09/17/2014 10:36 PM, Joe Gordon wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-19 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/18/2014 07:16 PM, Devananda van der Veen wrote: On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Devananda van der Veen devananda@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 7:45 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/18/2014 04:09 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: On 09/18/2014 12:31 PM, Flavio

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][nova] VM restarting on host, failure in convergence

2014-09-19 Thread Jastrzebski, Michal
All, Currently OpenStack does not have a built-in HA mechanism for tenant instances which could restore virtual machines in case of a host failure. Openstack assumes every app is designed for failure and can handle instance failure and will self-remediate, but that is rarely

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Adding Nejc Saje to ceilometer-core

2014-09-19 Thread Eoghan Glynn
Hi, Nejc has been doing a great work and has been very helpful during the Juno cycle and his help is very valuable. I'd like to propose that we add Nejc Saje to the ceilometer-core group. Please, dear ceilometer-core members, reply with your votes! With eight yeas and zero nays, I

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Adding Dina Belova to ceilometer-core

2014-09-19 Thread Eoghan Glynn
Hi, Dina has been doing a great work and has been very helpful during the Juno cycle and her help is very valuable. She's been doing a lot of reviews and has been very active in our community. I'd like to propose that we add Dina Belova to the ceilometer-core group, as I'm convinced

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-19 Thread Thierry Carrez
Joe Gordon wrote: On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Devananda van der Veen devananda@gmail.com mailto:devananda@gmail.com wrote: - guaranteed message order - not distributing work across a configurable number of back ends These are scale-limiting design choices which are

Re: [openstack-dev] [ceilometer] Performance degradation (docs) for sampling rate less than 10 mins

2014-09-19 Thread Srikanta Patanjali
Hi Tyaptin, Thanks for sharing the document. I appreciate that. Its well documented and shares all the info i was looking for in detail. May be it should be documented along with the Ceilometer for reference purpose. Cheers, Srikanta InIT ¦ ICCLab ZHAW

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][nova] VM restarting on host failure in convergence

2014-09-19 Thread Jastrzebski, Michal
In short, what we'll need from nova is to have 100% reliable host-health monitor and equally reliable rebuild/evacuate mechanism with fencing and scheduler. In heat we need scallable and reliable event listener and engine to decide which action to perform in given situation.

[openstack-dev] Will glance return a deleted image?

2014-09-19 Thread Eli Qiao
hi all: I find a strange behavior that when I use nova image-show uuid, I can get a deleted image it is marked as deleted. is this the correct behavior ? [tagett@stack-01 devstack]$ nova image-show bda62c0e-2b6c-4495-b06e-1fa1e591da80

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Adding Dina Belova to ceilometer-core

2014-09-19 Thread Dina Belova
Thank you folks, it's a big pleasure and responsibility, and I'm really happy to join you :) Thanks! Dina On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Eoghan Glynn egl...@redhat.com wrote: Hi, Dina has been doing a great work and has been very helpful during the Juno cycle and her help is very

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-19 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/19/2014 11:00 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Joe Gordon wrote: On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Devananda van der Veen devananda@gmail.com mailto:devananda@gmail.com wrote: - guaranteed message order - not distributing work across a configurable number of back ends

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] naming of provider template for docs

2014-09-19 Thread Thomas Spatzier
From: Mike Spreitzer mspre...@us.ibm.com To: OpenStack Development Mailing List \(not for usage questions\) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: 19/09/2014 07:15 Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] naming of provider template for docs Angus Salkeld asalk...@mirantis.com wrote on

Re: [openstack-dev] Oslo final releases ready

2014-09-19 Thread Andrey Kurilin
Here you are!:) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122667 On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: I would like to do a python-novaclient release, but this requirements commit hasn't yet turned into a requirements proposal for novaclient (that I can find). Can

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat][Zaqar] Integration plan moving forward

2014-09-19 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/18/2014 11:51 AM, Angus Salkeld wrote: On 18/09/2014 7:11 PM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com mailto:fla...@redhat.com wrote: Greetings, If I recall correctly, Heat was planning to adopt Zaqar regardless of the result of the graduation attempt (please correct me if I'm wrong).

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] are we going to remove the novaclient v3 shell or what?

2014-09-19 Thread Day, Phil
DevStack doesn't register v2.1 endpoint to keytone now, but we can use it with calling it directly. It is true that it is difficult to use v2.1 API now and we can check its behavior via v3 API instead. I posted a patch[1] for registering v2.1 endpoint to keystone, and I confirmed

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Expand resource name allowed characters

2014-09-19 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/18/2014 08:49 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Christopher Yeoh's message of 2014-09-18 16:57:12 -0700: On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 12:12:28 -0400 Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: When we can return the json-schema to user in the future, can we say that means API accepting utf8 or utf8mb4

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-19 Thread Thierry Carrez
Monty Taylor wrote: I've recently been thinking a lot about Sean's Layers stuff. So I wrote a blog post which Jim Blair and Devananda were kind enough to help me edit. http://inaugust.com/post/108 Hey Monty, As you can imagine, I read that post with great attention. I generally like the

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-19 Thread Thierry Carrez
Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: Great writeup. I think there are some great concrete suggestions here. A couple more: 1. I think we need a better name for Layer #1 that actually represents what the goal of it is: Infrastructure Services? 2. We need to be be open to having other Layer #1s

Re: [openstack-dev] [metrics] Another issue when analyzing SSH Gerrit (as young as August 2014)

2014-09-19 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 12:30:50PM +0200, Daniel Izquierdo wrote: Hi! After having a more in depth review of data coming from Gerrit, some other issues appear when using the SSH Gerrit API. Some of the dates when reviewing the code (Code-Review, Verified, etc) seem to be inconsistent with

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Oslo] Federation and Policy

2014-09-19 Thread David Chadwick
On 18/09/2014 22:14, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Sep 18, 2014, at 4:34 PM, David Chadwick d.w.chadw...@kent.ac.uk wrote: On 18/09/2014 21:04, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Sep 18, 2014, at 12:36 PM, David Chadwick d.w.chadw...@kent.ac.uk wrote: Our recent work on federation suggests we

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-19 Thread Eoghan Glynn
Hi All, My understanding of Zaqar is that it's like SQS. SQS uses distributed queues, which have a few unusual properties [0]: Message Order Amazon SQS makes a best effort to preserve order in messages, but due to the distributed nature of the queue, we cannot guarantee you will

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo-vmware] Propose adding Radoslav to core team

2014-09-19 Thread Vipin Balachandran
+1 From: Vui Chiap Lam [mailto:vuich...@vmware.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:52 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo-vmware] Propose adding Radoslav to core team +1. Rado has been very instrumental in helping with

Re: [openstack-dev] [requirements][horizon] Dependency freeze exceptions

2014-09-19 Thread Thierry Carrez
Thierry Carrez wrote: Radomir Dopieralski wrote: I would like to request dependency freeze exceptions for the following patches for Horizon: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121509/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122410/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113184/ They are all

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][cells] Flavors and cells

2014-09-19 Thread Dheeraj Gupta
I was investigating this issue and this is what I found: In the boot request, the compute layer passes the instance_type_id to the driver layer (driver.spawn) and the driver layer then extracts actual flavor information. However, different drivers extract/use this information differently - -

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-19 Thread John Griffith
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 4:33 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: Great writeup. I think there are some great concrete suggestions here. A couple more: 1. I think we need a better name for Layer #1 that actually represents what the goal of it is:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Eoghan Glynn's message of 2014-09-19 04:23:55 -0700: Hi All, My understanding of Zaqar is that it's like SQS. SQS uses distributed queues, which have a few unusual properties [0]: Message Order Amazon SQS makes a best effort to preserve order in messages, but

[openstack-dev] [nova] 2 weeks in the bug tracker

2014-09-19 Thread Sean Dague
I've spent the better part of the last 2 weeks in the Nova bug tracker to try to turn it into something that doesn't cause people to run away screaming. I don't remember exactly where we started at open bug count 2 weeks ago (it was north of 1400, with 200 bugs in new, but it might have been

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-19 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-09-18 14:35:10 + (+), Ian Cordasco wrote: Except that even OpenStack doesn’t pin requests because of how extraordinarily stable our API is. [...] FWIW, I nearly capped it a few weeks ago with https://review.openstack.org/117848 but since the affected projects were able to rush

[openstack-dev] [Neutron] Enabling vlan trunking on neutron port.

2014-09-19 Thread Parikshit Manur
Hi All, I have a setup which has VM on flat provider network , and I want to reach VM on VLAN provider network. The packets are forwarded till veth pair and are getting dropped by br-int. Can neutron port be configured to allow vlan trunking? Thanks, Parikshit Manur

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-19 Thread Gordon Sim
On 09/19/2014 08:53 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 09/18/2014 09:25 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: I don't see that the claim mechanism brings any stronger guarantee, it just offers a competing consumer behaviour where browsing is non-competing (non-destructive). In both cases you require the client to be

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] 2 weeks in the bug tracker

2014-09-19 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/19/2014 09:58 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: snip == Keeping New Bugs at close to 0 == After driving the bugs in the New state down to zero last week, I found it's actually pretty easy to keep it at 0. We get 10 - 20 new bugs a day in Nova (during a weekday). Of those ~20% aren't actually a

[openstack-dev] [requirements] [nova] requirements freeze exception for websockify

2014-09-19 Thread Sean Dague
I'd like to request a requirements freeze exception for websockify - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122702/ The rationale for this is that websockify version bump fixes a Nova bug about zombie processes - https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1048703. It also sets g-r to the value we've been

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] Set WIP for stale patches?

2014-09-19 Thread Sullivan, Jon Paul
Thu Sep 18 12:18:49 UTC 2014 On 2014-09-18 08:06:11 + (+), Sullivan, Jon Paul wrote: In my experience if the check results are not fresh enough the recheck is automatically run. I am not on the infra team, so without looking up code I am just guessing, but my guess is that the

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-19 Thread Ian Cordasco
On 9/19/14, 9:01 AM, Jeremy Stanley fu...@yuggoth.org wrote: On 2014-09-18 14:35:10 + (+), Ian Cordasco wrote: Except that even OpenStack doesn’t pin requests because of how extraordinarily stable our API is. [...] FWIW, I nearly capped it a few weeks ago with

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] zeromq work for kilo

2014-09-19 Thread Ben Nemec
On 09/19/2014 08:38 AM, Ken Giusti wrote: On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 17:29:27 Eric Windisch wrote: That?s great feedback, Eric, thank you. I know some of the other projects +1 - yes, excellent feedback - having just worked on the AMQP 1.0 driver, I think you've nicely described some of my own

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-19 Thread Brant Knudson
I don't think anyone would be complaining if glanceclient didn't have the need to reach into and monkeypatch requests's connection pool manager[1]. Is there a way to tell requests to build the https connections differently without monkeypatching urllib3.poolmanager? glanceclient's monkeypatching

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-19 Thread Donald Stufft
On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:54 AM, Brant Knudson b...@acm.org wrote: I don't think anyone would be complaining if glanceclient didn't have the need to reach into and monkeypatch requests's connection pool manager[1]. Is there a way to tell requests to build the https connections differently

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] zeromq work for kilo

2014-09-19 Thread Mehdi Abaakouk
Hi, For me, the lack of tests is why reviews are not done, even some of them are critical. An other issue, less problematic, of this driver is it relies on eventlet directly, but all the eventlet code should be only localized into oslo.messaging._executor.impl_eventlet. Otherwise, I have

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] naming of provider template for docs

2014-09-19 Thread Mike Spreitzer
On further thought, I noticed that template-based resource also describes an AWS::CloudFormation::Stack; and since those are template-based, you could well describe them as custom too. Would you consider nested stack to also describe resources of other types that are implemented by Python code

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Set WIP for stale patches?

2014-09-19 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-09-19 15:27:36 + (+), Sullivan, Jon Paul wrote: [...] I think that the abandoning happening from an automated process is easier to accept than if it came from a person, and so less likely to create a poor and emotional response. Here we'll just have to agree to disagree. I

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-19 Thread Mark Washenberger
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote: On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:54 AM, Brant Knudson b...@acm.org wrote: I don't think anyone would be complaining if glanceclient didn't have the need to reach into and monkeypatch requests's connection pool manager[1]. Is

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-19 Thread Donald Stufft
On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:42 PM, Mark Washenberger mark.washenber...@markwash.net wrote: On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io mailto:don...@stufft.io wrote: On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:54 AM, Brant Knudson b...@acm.org mailto:b...@acm.org wrote: I don't

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-19 Thread Adam Lawson
Can someone do a small little Visio or other visual to explain what's being proposed here? My head sported a small crack at around the 5-6th page... ; ) But seriously, I couldn't understand the proposal. Maybe I'm not the audience which is fine, just saying, the words got in the way. Sounds like

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-19 Thread John Dickinson
On Sep 19, 2014, at 5:46 AM, John Griffith john.griff...@solidfire.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 4:33 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: Great writeup. I think there are some great concrete suggestions here. A couple more: 1. I think we

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-19 Thread Vishvananda Ishaya
On Sep 19, 2014, at 3:33 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: Great writeup. I think there are some great concrete suggestions here. A couple more: 1. I think we need a better name for Layer #1 that actually represents what the goal of it is:

[openstack-dev] WARNING: Oslo team is cleaning up the incubator

2014-09-19 Thread Doug Hellmann
The Oslo team is starting to remove deprecated code from the incubator for libraries that graduated this cycle, in preparation for the work we will be doing in Kilo. Any fixes for those modules needed before the final releases for the other projects should be submitted to the stable/juno

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-19 Thread Dean Troyer
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Adam Lawson alaw...@aqorn.com wrote: Can someone do a small little Visio or other visual to explain what's being Sean's blog post included a nice diagram that is Monty's starting point: https://dague.net/2014/08/26/openstack-as-layers/ AIUI Monty's Layer 1

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] zeromq work for kilo

2014-09-19 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Ken Giusti kgiu...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon Sep 8 15:18:35 UTC 2014, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Sep 8, 2014, at 10:35 AM, Antonio Messina antonio.s.messina at gmail.com wrote: Hi All, We tested briefly ZeroMQ with Havana last year, but we couldn't find any

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo-vmware] Propose adding Radoslav to core team

2014-09-19 Thread Doug Hellmann
Done. Welcome to the team, Radoslav! Doug On Sep 19, 2014, at 7:52 AM, Vipin Balachandran vbalachand...@vmware.com wrote: +1 From: Vui Chiap Lam [mailto:vuich...@vmware.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:52 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Oslo] Federation and Policy

2014-09-19 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 19, 2014, at 6:56 AM, David Chadwick d.w.chadw...@kent.ac.uk wrote: On 18/09/2014 22:14, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Sep 18, 2014, at 4:34 PM, David Chadwick d.w.chadw...@kent.ac.uk wrote: On 18/09/2014 21:04, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Sep 18, 2014, at 12:36 PM, David

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] [LBaaS] Packet flow between instances using a load balancer

2014-09-19 Thread Eugene Nikanorov
If we're talking about default haproxy driver for lbaas, then I'd say that the diagram is not quite correct because one could assume that LB_A and LB_B are kind of routing devices which have networks behind. Since haproxy is layer 4 loadbalancer, so packet received by RHB1 will have source of

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] 2 weeks in the bug tracker

2014-09-19 Thread Jay Pipes
Sorry for top-posting. Just want to say thanks for writing this up and I agree with all the points and recommendations you made. -jay On 09/19/2014 09:13 AM, Sean Dague wrote: I've spent the better part of the last 2 weeks in the Nova bug tracker to try to turn it into something that doesn't

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-19 Thread Vishvananda Ishaya
On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:14 AM, John Dickinson m...@not.mn wrote: On Sep 19, 2014, at 5:46 AM, John Griffith john.griff...@solidfire.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 4:33 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: Great writeup. I think there are

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-19 Thread Anita Kuno
On 09/19/2014 01:15 PM, Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: On Sep 19, 2014, at 3:33 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: Great writeup. I think there are some great concrete suggestions here. A couple more: 1. I think we need a better name for Layer #1

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-19 Thread Vipul Sabhaya
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 4:23 AM, Eoghan Glynn egl...@redhat.com wrote: Hi All, My understanding of Zaqar is that it's like SQS. SQS uses distributed queues, which have a few unusual properties [0]: Message Order Amazon SQS makes a best effort to preserve order in messages, but

Re: [openstack-dev] [requirements] [nova] requirements freeze exception for websockify

2014-09-19 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:22 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: I'd like to request a requirements freeze exception for websockify - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122702/ The rationale for this is that websockify version bump fixes a Nova bug about zombie processes -

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-19 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote: So you can remove all that code and just let requests/urllib3 handle it on 3.2+, 2.7.9+ and for anything less than that either use conditional dependencies to have glance client depend on pyOpenSSL, ndg-httpsclient, and

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat][Zaqar] Integration plan moving forward

2014-09-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-18 02:07:09 -0700: Greetings, If I recall correctly, Heat was planning to adopt Zaqar regardless of the result of the graduation attempt (please correct me if I'm wrong). Based on this assumption, I'd like to start working on a plan forward

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat][Zaqar] Integration plan moving forward

2014-09-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-19 02:37:08 -0700: On 09/18/2014 11:51 AM, Angus Salkeld wrote: On 18/09/2014 7:11 PM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com mailto:fla...@redhat.com wrote: Greetings, If I recall correctly, Heat was planning to adopt Zaqar regardless of

Re: [openstack-dev] [metrics] New version of the Activity Board

2014-09-19 Thread Stefano Maffulli
Thank you Daniel, great job. On 09/17/2014 09:03 AM, Daniel Izquierdo wrote: * Further work = - Add Juno release information It's coming :) - Allow to have projects navigation per release This is interesting - Add Askbot data per release This is really not needed, don't spend

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-19 Thread Donald Stufft
On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Chmouel Boudjnah chmo...@enovance.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io mailto:don...@stufft.io wrote: So you can remove all that code and just let requests/urllib3 handle it on 3.2+, 2.7.9+ and for anything less than

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Ian Cordasco's message of 2014-09-18 10:33:04 -0700: On 9/18/14, 11:29 AM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Donald Stufft's message of 2014-09-18 07:30:27 -0700: On Sep 18, 2014, at 10:18 AM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Donald

[openstack-dev] [Elections] Nominations for OpenStack PTLs (Program Technical Leads) are now open

2014-09-19 Thread Anita Kuno
Nominations for OpenStack PTLs (Program Technical Leads) are now open and will remain open until September 26, 2014 05:59 UTC. To announce your candidacy please start a new openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org mailing list thread with the program name as a tag, example [Glance] PTL Candidacy with

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-19 Thread Mark Washenberger
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Chmouel Boudjnah chmo...@enovance.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote: So you can remove all that code and just let requests/urllib3 handle it on 3.2+, 2.7.9+ and for anything less than that either use conditional

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Set WIP for stale patches?

2014-09-19 Thread Jay Dobies
On 2014-09-18 15:21:20 -0400 (-0400), Jay Dobies wrote: How many of the reviews that we WIP-1 will actually be revisited? I'm sure there will be cases where a current developer forgetting they had started on something, seeing the e-mail about the WIP-1, and then abandoning the change. But what

[openstack-dev] [Compute][Nova] Announcing my candidacy for PTL

2014-09-19 Thread Michael Still
I'd like another term as Compute PTL, if you'll have me. We live in interesting times. OpenStack has clearly gained a large amount of mind share in the open cloud marketplace, with Nova being a very commonly deployed component. Yet, we don't have a fantastic container solution, which is our

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-19 Thread Zane Bitter
On 18/09/14 10:55, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 09/18/2014 04:24 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Great job highlighting what our friends over at Amazon are doing. It's clear from these snippets, and a few other pieces of documentation for SQS I've read, that the Amazon team approached SQS from a _massive_

[openstack-dev] [neutron] Announcing my candidacy for PTL

2014-09-19 Thread Kyle Mestery
All: I am writing to announce my candidacy for the OpenStack Networking (Neutron) PTL role. I am the current Neutron PTL, having lead the project during the Juno cycle. As a team, we have accomplished a lot during the Juno cycle. We have achieved the goals outlined from the TC around

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][QoS] Applying QoS as Quota

2014-09-19 Thread Carlino, Chuck
I'm in HP, but not in the group that owns this effort, so I don't know what its status is. There is a havana-based implementation floating around somewhere inside HP. I'll ask around to see what I can find out. I'm pretty sure there's nothing going on in the community. Chuck On Sep 19,

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] 2 weeks in the bug tracker

2014-09-19 Thread Michael Still
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 11:13 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: I've spent the better part of the last 2 weeks in the Nova bug tracker to try to turn it into something that doesn't cause people to run away screaming. I don't remember exactly where we started at open bug count 2 weeks ago

Re: [openstack-dev] Oslo final releases ready

2014-09-19 Thread Michael Still
Thanks. That's now approved and we're waiting for the merge. Michael On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Andrey Kurilin akuri...@mirantis.com wrote: Here you are!:) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122667 On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: I would like to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Compute][Nova] Announcing my candidacy for PTL

2014-09-19 Thread Anita Kuno
confirmed On 09/19/2014 04:12 PM, Michael Still wrote: I'd like another term as Compute PTL, if you'll have me. We live in interesting times. OpenStack has clearly gained a large amount of mind share in the open cloud marketplace, with Nova being a very commonly deployed component. Yet, we

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] 2 weeks in the bug tracker

2014-09-19 Thread Ben Nemec
On 09/19/2014 08:13 AM, Sean Dague wrote: I've spent the better part of the last 2 weeks in the Nova bug tracker to try to turn it into something that doesn't cause people to run away screaming. I don't remember exactly where we started at open bug count 2 weeks ago (it was north of 1400, with

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Announcing my candidacy for PTL

2014-09-19 Thread Anita Kuno
confirmed On 09/19/2014 04:40 PM, Kyle Mestery wrote: All: I am writing to announce my candidacy for the OpenStack Networking (Neutron) PTL role. I am the current Neutron PTL, having lead the project during the Juno cycle. As a team, we have accomplished a lot during the Juno cycle. We

[openstack-dev] [Keystone] PTL Candidacy

2014-09-19 Thread Morgan Fainberg
Hello Everyone!  After contributing consistently to OpenStack since the Grizzly cycle and more specifically to Keystone since Havana, I’d like to put my name into the hat for the Keystone PTL role during the Kilo release cycle. I’ve been a core developer on Keystone since the latter part of

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone] PTL Candidacy

2014-09-19 Thread Anita Kuno
confirmed On 09/19/2014 05:14 PM, Morgan Fainberg wrote: Hello Everyone! After contributing consistently to OpenStack since the Grizzly cycle and more specifically to Keystone since Havana, I’d like to put my name into the hat for the Keystone PTL role during the Kilo release cycle. I’ve

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] 2 weeks in the bug tracker

2014-09-19 Thread Anita Kuno
On 09/19/2014 05:03 PM, Ben Nemec wrote: On 09/19/2014 08:13 AM, Sean Dague wrote: I've spent the better part of the last 2 weeks in the Nova bug tracker to try to turn it into something that doesn't cause people to run away screaming. I don't remember exactly where we started at open bug

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat][Zaqar] Integration plan moving forward

2014-09-19 Thread Zane Bitter
On 19/09/14 14:34, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-19 02:37:08 -0700: On 09/18/2014 11:51 AM, Angus Salkeld wrote: On 18/09/2014 7:11 PM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com mailto:fla...@redhat.com wrote: Greetings, If I recall correctly, Heat was

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Request for python-heatclient project to adopt heat-translator

2014-09-19 Thread Zane Bitter
On 09/09/14 05:52, Steven Hardy wrote: Hi Sahdev, On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 11:52:30AM -0400, Sahdev P Zala wrote: Hello guys, As you know, the heat-translator project was started early this year with an aim to create a tool to translate non-Heat templates to HOT. It is a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] naming of provider template for docs

2014-09-19 Thread Zane Bitter
On 19/09/14 01:10, Mike Spreitzer wrote: Angus Salkeld asalk...@mirantis.com wrote on 09/18/2014 09:33:56 PM: Hi I am trying to add some docs to openstack-manuals hot_guide about using provider templates : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121741/ Mike has suggested we use a different

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][QoS] Applying QoS as Quota

2014-09-19 Thread Kevin Benton
Well there is the QoS work that has been pushed to incubation or Kilo. On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Carlino, Chuck chuck.carl...@hp.com wrote: I'm in HP, but not in the group that owns this effort, so I don't know what its status is. There is a havana-based implementation floating around

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][QoS] Applying QoS as Quota

2014-09-19 Thread Kevin Benton
Sorry, forgot to include a link. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/quantum-qos-api On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Kevin Benton blak...@gmail.com wrote: Well there is the QoS work that has been pushed to incubation or Kilo. On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Carlino, Chuck

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] vxlan port iptables configuration

2014-09-19 Thread Kevin Benton
This is the responsibility of the deployment tool. The iptables firewall driver only handles firewall rules for the VM ports. On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 6:28 AM, Andreas Scheuring scheu...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: Hi I just was playing around with various neutron-openvswitch-agent vxlan

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] naming of provider template for docs

2014-09-19 Thread Qiming Teng
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 11:20:43AM +0200, Thomas Spatzier wrote: From: Mike Spreitzer mspre...@us.ibm.com To: OpenStack Development Mailing List \(not for usage questions\) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: 19/09/2014 07:15 Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] naming of provider

[openstack-dev] usability anti-pattern

2014-09-19 Thread Monty Taylor
Hey, Not to name names, but some of our client libs do this: client.Client(API_VERSION, os_username, ... ) I'm pretty sure they got the idea from python-glanceclient, so I blame Brian Waldon, since he left us for CoreOS. PLEASE STOP DOING THIS - IT CAUSES BABIES TO CRY. MORE. As a

[openstack-dev] usability anti-pattern, part 2

2014-09-19 Thread Monty Taylor
except exc.Unauthorized: raise exc.CommandError(Invalid OpenStack credentials.) except exc.AuthorizationFailure: raise exc.CommandError(Unable to authorize user) This is pervasive enough that both of those exceptions come from openstack.common. Anyone?

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-19 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/19/2014 03:29 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Monty Taylor wrote: I've recently been thinking a lot about Sean's Layers stuff. So I wrote a blog post which Jim Blair and Devananda were kind enough to help me edit. http://inaugust.com/post/108 Hey Monty, As you can imagine, I read that

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-19 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/19/2014 10:14 AM, John Dickinson wrote: On Sep 19, 2014, at 5:46 AM, John Griffith john.griff...@solidfire.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 4:33 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: Great writeup. I think there are some great concrete

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-19 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/19/2014 10:50 AM, Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:14 AM, John Dickinson m...@not.mn wrote: On Sep 19, 2014, at 5:46 AM, John Griffith john.griff...@solidfire.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 4:33 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Vishvananda

Re: [openstack-dev] usability anti-pattern, part 2

2014-09-19 Thread Dean Troyer
[OK, I'll bite...just once more...because dammit I want this crap fixed too.] I know you know this Monty, but for the benefit of the folks who don't, the client library situation is a result of them belonging to the projects they serve, each one[0] forked from a different one forked from jkm's

Re: [openstack-dev] usability anti-pattern, part 2

2014-09-19 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/19/2014 10:05 PM, Dean Troyer wrote: [OK, I'll bite...just once more...because dammit I want this crap fixed too.] It's tough to avoid when I toss you such juicy bones isn't it? I know you know this Monty, but for the benefit of the folks who don't, the client library situation is a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat][Zaqar] Integration plan moving forward

2014-09-19 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/19/2014 03:42 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: On 19/09/14 14:34, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-19 02:37:08 -0700: On 09/18/2014 11:51 AM, Angus Salkeld wrote: On 18/09/2014 7:11 PM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com mailto:fla...@redhat.com wrote:

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