Re: [openstack-dev] Oslo messaging vs zaqar

2014-09-23 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/22/2014 09:25 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Sep 22, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Gordon Sim g...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/22/2014 03:40 PM, Geoff O'Callaghan wrote: That being said I'm not sure why a well constructed zaqar with an rpc interface couldn't meet the requirements of oslo.messsaging

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] To slide or not to slide? OpenStack Bootstrapping Hour...

2014-09-23 Thread Gary Kotton
Hi, I think that it was very informative and useful. I have forwarded it to a number of new people starting to work on OpenStack and who were wondering how to use mockŠ So two birds with one stone. Thanks! Gary On 9/22/14, 7:27 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, OK, so we had our

[openstack-dev] [RFC] Kilo release cycle schedule proposal

2014-09-23 Thread Thierry Carrez
Hi everyone, Rather than waste a design summit session about it, I propose we review the proposed Kilo release cycle schedule on the mailing-list. See attached PDF for a picture of the proposal. The hard date the proposal is built around is the next (L) Design Summit week: May 18-22. That pushes

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] libvirt boot parameters

2014-09-23 Thread Angelo Matarazzo
Hi, I think that this variable is useful for me cfg.IntOpt(reboot_timeout, default=0, help=Automatically hard reboot an instance if it has been stuck in a rebooting state longer than N seconds. Set to 0 to disable.),

Re: [openstack-dev] Could we please use 1.4.1 for oslo.messaging *now*? (was: Oslo final releases ready)

2014-09-23 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 09/18/2014 10:04 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: All of the final releases for the Oslo libraries for the Juno cycle are available on PyPI. I’m working on a couple of patches to the global requirements list to update the baseline in the applications. In all cases, the final release is a second

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Stepping down as PTL

2014-09-23 Thread Thierry Carrez
Adam Young wrote: OpenStack owes you more than most people realize. +1 Dolph did a great job of keeping the fundamental piece that is Keystone safe from a release management perspective, by consistently hitting all the deadlines, giving time for other projects to safely build on it. Don't you

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Deprecating localfs?

2014-09-23 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 09:53:36AM +1000, Michael Still wrote: Hi. I know we've been talking about deprecating nova.virt.disk.vfs.localfs for a long time, in favour of wanting people to use libguestfs instead. However, I can't immediately find any written documentation for when we said we'd

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-23 Thread Gordon Sim
On 09/22/2014 05:58 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: On 22/09/14 10:11, Gordon Sim wrote: As I understand it, pools don't help scaling a given queue since all the messages for that queue must be in the same pool. At present traffic through different Zaqar queues are essentially entirely orthogonal

[openstack-dev] [requirements][horizon] Dependency freeze exceptions: django-openstack-auth

2014-09-23 Thread Akihiro Motoki
Hi, I would like to request dependency freeze exceptions for django-openstack-auth. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123101/ django-openstack-auth is developped along with Horizon and the recent release 1.1.7 of django-openstack-auth has good fixes which affect Juno Horizon, especially from the

[openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] PTL Candidacy

2014-09-23 Thread Eoghan Glynn
Folks, I'd like to continue serving as Telemetry PTL for a second cycle. When I took on the role for Juno, I saw some challenges facing the project that would take multi-cycle efforts to resolve, so I'd like to have the opportunity to see that move closer to completion. Over Juno, our focus as

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Some ideas for micro-version implementation

2014-09-23 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 09:29:26 + Kenichi Oomichi oomi...@mxs.nes.nec.co.jp wrote: Before discussing how to implement, I'd like to consider what we should implement. IIUC, the purpose of v3 API is to make consistent API with the backwards incompatible changes. Through huge discussion in

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-23 Thread Thierry Carrez
Devananda van der Veen wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: On Sep 22, 2014, at 5:10 PM, Devananda van der Veen devananda@gmail.com wrote: One of the primary effects of integration, as far as the release process is concerned, is being

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-23 Thread Thierry Carrez
Robert Collins wrote: On 19 September 2014 22:29, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: ... current Heat team is not really interested in maintaining them. What's the point of being under the same program then ? And TripleO is not the only way to deploy OpenStack, but its mere existence

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Request for python-heatclient project to adopt heat-translator

2014-09-23 Thread Steven Hardy
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 06:54:27PM -0400, Zane Bitter wrote: On 09/09/14 05:52, Steven Hardy wrote: Hi Sahdev, On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 11:52:30AM -0400, Sahdev P Zala wrote: Hello guys, As you know, the heat-translator project was started early this year with an aim to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack] No one replying on tempest issue?Please share your experience

2014-09-23 Thread Nikesh Kumar Mahalka
Hi, I am able to do all volume operations through dashboard and cli commands. But when i am running tempest tests,some tests are getting failed. For contributing cinder volume driver for my client in cinder,do all tempest tests should passed? Ex: 1) ./run_tempest.sh

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-23 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/23/2014 05:13 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Joe Gordon's message of 2014-09-22 19:04:03 -0700: [snip] To me this is less about valid or invalid choices. The Zaqar team is comparing Zaqar to SQS, but after digging into the two of them, zaqar barely looks like SQS. Zaqar doesn't

Re: [openstack-dev] [requirements][horizon] Dependency freeze exceptions: django-openstack-auth

2014-09-23 Thread Thierry Carrez
Akihiro Motoki wrote: I would like to request dependency freeze exceptions for django-openstack-auth. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123101/ This arguably counts as an internal library. We are freezing those now (well, last Friday was the deadline), so +1 on this one. -- Thierry Carrez

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack] No one replying on tempest issue?Please share your experience

2014-09-23 Thread Denis Makogon
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Nikesh Kumar Mahalka nikeshmaha...@vedams.com wrote: Hi, I am able to do all volume operations through dashboard and cli commands. But when i am running tempest tests,some tests are getting failed. For contributing cinder volume driver for my client in

[openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar's path cleared out

2014-09-23 Thread Flavio Percoco
Greetings, I recently published a post[0] about Zaqar's path going forward with the hope to clarify a bit the project's vision and guarantees as a service - I didn't mention API features. Since we've been talking about this lately, I thought to share the post here to ease the discussion and to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Deprecating localfs?

2014-09-23 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 09:53:36AM +1000, Michael Still wrote: Hi. I know we've been talking about deprecating nova.virt.disk.vfs.localfs for a long time, in favour of wanting people to use libguestfs instead. However, I can't immediately find any written documentation for when we said we'd

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Request for python-heatclient project to adopt heat-translator

2014-09-23 Thread Thomas Spatzier
Excerpts from Steven Hardy's message on 23/09/2014 11:37:42: snip On the other hand, there is a big downside to having it (only) in Heat also - you're dependent on the operator deciding to provide it. - You prempt the decision about integration with any higher levelservices, e.g

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Deprecating localfs?

2014-09-23 Thread Michael Still
I am ok with a staged approach, although I do think its something we should start in Kilo. That said though, we emit a warning if the installation doesn't have a working libguestfs in juno. Michael On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 8:09 PM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 23,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Deprecating localfs?

2014-09-23 Thread Roman Bogorodskiy
Michael Still wrote: Hi. I know we've been talking about deprecating nova.virt.disk.vfs.localfs for a long time, in favour of wanting people to use libguestfs instead. However, I can't immediately find any written documentation for when we said we'd do that thing. Additionally, this

Re: [openstack-dev] [requirements][horizon] Dependency freeze exceptions: django-openstack-auth

2014-09-23 Thread Akihiro Motoki
Sorry for the delay. django-openstack-auth 1.1.7 was released last Friday and it seems David forgot to update global requirements. Now let me clarify how to handle this kind of bugs which requires a fix in a library after the release. What is the appropriate way to fix a bug depending on

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Some ideas for micro-version implementation

2014-09-23 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 09:47:50 -0500 Anne Gentle a...@openstack.org wrote: (1) Input/Output attribute names (1.1) These names should be snake_case. eg: imageRef - image_ref, flavorRef - flavor_ref, hostId - host_id (1.2) These names should contain extension names if they are provided

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Some ideas for micro-version implementation

2014-09-23 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 15:27:47 -0500 Brant Knudson b...@acm.org wrote: Did you consider JSON Home[1] for this? For Juno we've got JSON Home support in Keystone for Identity v3 (Zaqar was using it already). We weren't planning to use it for microversioning since we weren't planning on doing

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] REST API style guide (Re: [Nova] Some ideas for micro-version implementation)

2014-09-23 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 09:00:26 +0900 Ken'ichi Ohmichi ken1ohmi...@gmail.com wrote: \ So how about just using HTTP 200(OK) only for status codes? That would give up providing accurate internal status to clients but backwards backwards incompatibilities never happen. No I think that we should

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Deprecating localfs?

2014-09-23 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 02:27:52PM +0400, Roman Bogorodskiy wrote: Michael Still wrote: Hi. I know we've been talking about deprecating nova.virt.disk.vfs.localfs for a long time, in favour of wanting people to use libguestfs instead. However, I can't immediately find any written

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] PTL Non-Candidacy

2014-09-23 Thread stuart . mclaren
Hi Mark, Many thanks for your leadership, and keeping glance so enjoyable to work on over the last few cycles. -Stuart From: Mark Washenberger mark.washenber...@markwash.net To: OpenStack Development Mailing List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: [openstack-dev] [Glance] PTL

[openstack-dev] [Designate] DNS Services PTL Candidacy

2014-09-23 Thread Mac Innes, Kiall
Hi all, I'd like to announce my candidacy for the DNS Services Program PTL position. I've been involved in Designate since day one, as the both original author and as pseudo-PTL pre-incubation. Designate and the DNS Services program have come a long way since the project was first introduced

Re: [openstack-dev] [RFC] Kilo release cycle schedule proposal

2014-09-23 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/23/2014 02:56 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi everyone, Rather than waste a design summit session about it, I propose we review the proposed Kilo release cycle schedule on the mailing-list. See attached PDF for a picture of the proposal. The hard date the proposal is built around is

Re: [openstack-dev] [RFC] Kilo release cycle schedule proposal

2014-09-23 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 07:42:30AM -0400, Sean Dague wrote: On 09/23/2014 02:56 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi everyone, Rather than waste a design summit session about it, I propose we review the proposed Kilo release cycle schedule on the mailing-list. See attached PDF for a picture of

Re: [openstack-dev] Could we please use 1.4.1 for oslo.messaging *now*? (was: Oslo final releases ready)

2014-09-23 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Zigo, Ouch! Can you please open a bug in oslo.messaging, i'll mark it critical thanks, dims On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 4:35 AM, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: On 09/18/2014 10:04 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: All of the final releases for the Oslo libraries for the Juno cycle are available

Re: [openstack-dev] Oslo messaging vs zaqar

2014-09-23 Thread Geoff O'Callaghan
On 23/09/2014 12:58 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Geoff O'Callaghan's message of 2014-09-22 17:30:47 -0700: On 23/09/2014 1:59 AM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Geoff, do you expect all of our users to write all of their messaging code in Python?

[openstack-dev] [Neutron]Dynamically load service provider

2014-09-23 Thread Germy Lure
Hi stackers, I have an idea about service provider framework. Anyone interested in this topic can give me some suggestions. My idea is that providers report their services capability dynamically not configured in neutron.conf. See details by the link below.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Some ideas for micro-version implementation

2014-09-23 Thread Alex Xu
On 2014年09月23日 17:12, Christopher Yeoh wrote: On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 09:29:26 + Kenichi Oomichi oomi...@mxs.nes.nec.co.jp wrote: Before discussing how to implement, I'd like to consider what we should implement. IIUC, the purpose of v3 API is to make consistent API with the backwards

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-23 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/23/2014 10:58 AM, Gordon Sim wrote: On 09/22/2014 05:58 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: On 22/09/14 10:11, Gordon Sim wrote: As I understand it, pools don't help scaling a given queue since all the messages for that queue must be in the same pool. At present traffic through different Zaqar

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] - what integration with Keystone is allowed?

2014-09-23 Thread Duncan Thomas
On 22 September 2014 21:49, Mark McClain m...@mcclain.xyz wrote: Ideally, I think something that provides proper sync support should exist in Keystone or a Keystone related project vs multiple implementations in Neutron, Cinder or any other multi-tenant service that wants to provide more

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] PTL Candidacy

2014-09-23 Thread Tristan Cacqueray
confirmed On 23/09/14 12:58 AM, Mike Perez wrote: Hello all, My name is Mike Perez, and I would like to be your next PTL for the OpenStack block storage project Cinder. I've been involved with the OpenStack community since October 2010. I'm a senior developer for Datera, which

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] PTL Candidacy

2014-09-23 Thread Tristan Cacqueray
confirmed On 23/09/14 05:10 AM, Eoghan Glynn wrote: Folks, I'd like to continue serving as Telemetry PTL for a second cycle. When I took on the role for Juno, I saw some challenges facing the project that would take multi-cycle efforts to resolve, so I'd like to have the opportunity to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Convergence: Backing up template instead of stack

2014-09-23 Thread Anant Patil
On 23-Sep-14 09:42, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Angus Salkeld's message of 2014-09-22 20:15:43 -0700: On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 1:09 AM, Anant Patil anant.pa...@hp.com wrote: Hi, One of the steps in the direction of convergence is to enable Heat engine to handle concurrent stack

Re: [openstack-dev] [Designate] DNS Services PTL Candidacy

2014-09-23 Thread Tristan Cacqueray
confirmed On 23/09/14 07:11 AM, Mac Innes, Kiall wrote: Hi all, I'd like to announce my candidacy for the DNS Services Program PTL position. I've been involved in Designate since day one, as the both original author and as pseudo-PTL pre-incubation. Designate and the DNS Services

Re: [openstack-dev] [RFC] Kilo release cycle schedule proposal

2014-09-23 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-09-23 12:53:42 +0100 (+0100), Daniel P. Berrange wrote: I didn't really notice anyone stop working in the last off-week we had. Changes kept being submitted at normal rate, people kept talking on IRC, etc, etc. An off-week is a nice idea in theory but it didn't seem to have much effect

Re: [openstack-dev] [Designate] DNS Services PTL Candidacy

2014-09-23 Thread Rich Megginson
On 09/23/2014 05:11 AM, Mac Innes, Kiall wrote: Hi all, I'd like to announce my candidacy for the DNS Services Program PTL position. I’ve been involved in Designate since day one, as the both original author and as pseudo-PTL pre-incubation. Designate and the DNS Services program have

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] PTL Non-Candidacy

2014-09-23 Thread Brian Rosmaita
I am really sorry to see you step down, but congratulations! cheers, brian From: Mark Washenberger [mark.washenber...@markwash.net] Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 12:22 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List Subject: [openstack-dev] [Glance] PTL Non-Candidacy

[openstack-dev] [cinder] PTL Candidacy

2014-09-23 Thread Duncan Thomas
This is an announcement of my standing for PTL of the Cinder project. I've been an active member of the Cinder core team from day one, and I've had the pleasure of working closely with John Griffith, the incumbent PTL, and a large and varied collection of contributors for that period. My job is

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] PTL Candidacy

2014-09-23 Thread Tristan Cacqueray
confirmed On 23/09/14 10:19 AM, Duncan Thomas wrote: This is an announcement of my standing for PTL of the Cinder project. I've been an active member of the Cinder core team from day one, and I've had the pleasure of working closely with John Griffith, the incumbent PTL, and a large and

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Stepping down as PTL

2014-09-23 Thread Lance Bragstad
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:51 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Adam Young wrote: OpenStack owes you more than most people realize. +1 Dolph did a great job of keeping the fundamental piece that is Keystone safe from a release management perspective, by consistently hitting

Re: [openstack-dev] [RFC] Kilo release cycle schedule proposal

2014-09-23 Thread Thierry Carrez
Sean Dague wrote: On 09/23/2014 02:56 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi everyone, Rather than waste a design summit session about it, I propose we review the proposed Kilo release cycle schedule on the mailing-list. See attached PDF for a picture of the proposal. The hard date the proposal is

[openstack-dev] [cinder] Not seeking another term as PTL

2014-09-23 Thread John Griffith
Hey Everyone, I've been kinda mixed on this one, but I think it's a good time for me to not run for Cinder PTL. I've been filling the role since we started the idea back at the Folsom Summit, and it's been an absolute pleasure and honor for me. I don't plan on going anywhere and will still be

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-23 Thread Zane Bitter
On 23/09/14 08:58, Flavio Percoco wrote: I believe the guarantee is still useful and it currently does not represent an issue for the service nor the user. 2 things could happen to FIFO in the future: 1. It's made optional and we allow users to opt-in in a per flavor basis. (I personally don't

Re: [openstack-dev] Could we please use 1.4.1 for oslo.messaging *now*? (was: Oslo final releases ready)

2014-09-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 23, 2014, at 4:35 AM, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: On 09/18/2014 10:04 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: All of the final releases for the Oslo libraries for the Juno cycle are available on PyPI. I’m working on a couple of patches to the global requirements list to update the

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 23, 2014, at 5:18 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Devananda van der Veen wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: On Sep 22, 2014, at 5:10 PM, Devananda van der Veen devananda@gmail.com wrote: One of the primary effects

Re: [openstack-dev] [RFC] Kilo release cycle schedule proposal

2014-09-23 Thread Amir Sadoughi
Instead of moving the Kilo cycle a week later (April 23 - April 30), would it be possible to move the L design summit a week ahead (May 18-22 - May 11-15). This would extend the L-cycle a week. Additionally, this would also help with return travel as the following Monday is Memorial Day; I'd

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 22, 2014, at 8:05 PM, Devananda van der Veen devananda@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: On Sep 22, 2014, at 5:10 PM, Devananda van der Veen devananda@gmail.com wrote: One of the primary effects of integration,

Re: [openstack-dev] [RFC] Kilo release cycle schedule proposal

2014-09-23 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-09-23 15:26:20 + (+), Amir Sadoughi wrote: Instead of moving the Kilo cycle a week later (April 23 - April 30), would it be possible to move the L design summit a week ahead (May 18-22 - May 11-15). This would extend the L-cycle a week. Additionally, this would also help with

[openstack-dev] [Murano] weekly meeting cancelled

2014-09-23 Thread Ruslan Kamaldinov
Since there are no major updates and some folks will not be able to join Murano weekly meeting, we've decided to skip it for today. Short update: 1. The only remaining major item left for juno is documentation and everyone is pretty aware about items we need to have in our docs:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Some ideas for micro-version implementation

2014-09-23 Thread Jay Pipes
On 09/22/2014 04:27 PM, Brant Knudson wrote: On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 1:39 AM, Alex Xu x...@linux.vnet.ibm.com mailto:x...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: Close to Kilo, it is time to think about what's next for nova API. In Kilo, we will continue develop the important feature

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Some ideas for micro-version implementation

2014-09-23 Thread Jay Pipes
On 09/22/2014 05:29 AM, Kenichi Oomichi wrote: -Original Message- From: Alex Xu [mailto:x...@linux.vnet.ibm.com] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 3:40 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List Subject: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Some ideas for micro-version implementation Close to Kilo, it

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Stepping down as PTL

2014-09-23 Thread Yee, Guang
++ Amen, brother! From: Lance Bragstad [mailto:lbrags...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 7:52 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Stepping down as PTL On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:51 AM, Thierry Carrez

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-23 Thread Zane Bitter
On 22/09/14 22:04, Joe Gordon wrote: To me this is less about valid or invalid choices. The Zaqar team is comparing Zaqar to SQS, but after digging into the two of them, zaqar barely looks like SQS. Zaqar doesn't guarantee what IMHO is the most important parts of SQS: the message will be

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-23 Thread Duncan Thomas
On 22 September 2014 23:14, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: I am not at all sure we've prevented other flowers blooming - and I hate the idea that we have done that. I've certainly sat around at discussions which shut down hard with somebody making the statement that 'that is

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] Not seeking another term as PTL

2014-09-23 Thread Duncan Thomas
On 23 September 2014 15:57, John Griffith john.griffi...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Everyone, I've been kinda mixed on this one, but I think it's a good time for me to not run for Cinder PTL. I've been filling the role since we started the idea back at the Folsom Summit, and it's been an absolute

Re: [openstack-dev] [RFC] Kilo release cycle schedule proposal

2014-09-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 23, 2014, at 7:53 AM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 07:42:30AM -0400, Sean Dague wrote: On 09/23/2014 02:56 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi everyone, Rather than waste a design summit session about it, I propose we review the proposed Kilo

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Stepping down as PTL

2014-09-23 Thread Henry Nash
Agree with all the comments made - Dolph, you really did a great job as PTL - keeping the balanced view is a crucial part of the role. Keystone is the better for it. Henry On 23 Sep 2014, at 17:08, Yee, Guang guang@hp.com wrote: ++ Amen, brother! From: Lance Bragstad

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-23 Thread Devananda van der Veen
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: On Sep 22, 2014, at 8:05 PM, Devananda van der Veen devananda@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: On Sep 22, 2014, at 5:10 PM, Devananda van der Veen

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-23 Thread Thierry Carrez
Doug Hellmann wrote: On Sep 23, 2014, at 5:18 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Devananda van der Veen wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: On Sep 22, 2014, at 5:10 PM, Devananda van der Veen devananda@gmail.com wrote: One

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Oslo] Federation and Policy

2014-09-23 Thread David Chadwick
Hi Doug thanks. We will test this next week regards David On 19/09/2014 18:43, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Sep 19, 2014, at 6:56 AM, David Chadwick d.w.chadw...@kent.ac.uk wrote: On 18/09/2014 22:14, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Sep 18, 2014, at 4:34 PM, David Chadwick d.w.chadw...@kent.ac.uk

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-23 Thread Vishvananda Ishaya
On Sep 23, 2014, at 8:40 AM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: If we are no longer incubating *programs*, which are the teams of people who we would like to ensure are involved in OpenStack governance, then how do we make that decision? From a practical standpoint, how do we make a

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-23 Thread Thierry Carrez
Devananda van der Veen wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: One is a technical discussion that has nothing at all to do with governance. The other is entirely about governance. If we are no longer incubating *programs*, which are the teams of

Re: [openstack-dev] [release] client release deadline - Sept 18th

2014-09-23 Thread Morgan Fainberg
Keystone team has released 0.11.1 of python-keystoneclient. Due to some delays getting things through the gate this took a few extra days. https://pypi.python.org/pypi/python-keystoneclient/0.11.1 —Morgan  — Morgan Fainberg -Original Message- From: John Dickinson m...@not.mn Reply: 

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] 2 weeks in the bug tracker

2014-09-23 Thread Dan Prince
On Fri, 2014-09-19 at 09:13 -0400, Sean Dague wrote: I've spent the better part of the last 2 weeks in the Nova bug tracker to try to turn it into something that doesn't cause people to run away screaming. I don't remember exactly where we started at open bug count 2 weeks ago (it was north of

[openstack-dev] [keystone] python-keystoneclient release 0.11.1

2014-09-23 Thread Morgan Fainberg
The Keystone team has released python-keystoneclient 0.11.1 [1]. This version is meant to be the release coinciding with the Juno release of OpenStack. The release includes two fixes [2] on top of the 0.11.0 [3] version. Cheers, Morgan Fainberg [1]

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Some ideas for micro-version implementation

2014-09-23 Thread Kevin L. Mitchell
On Tue, 2014-09-23 at 12:09 -0400, Jay Pipes wrote: I'd like to say finally that I think there should be an OpenStack API working group whose job it is to both pull together a set of OpenStack API practices as well as evaluate new REST APIs proposed in the OpenStack ecosystem to provide

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] 2 weeks in the bug tracker

2014-09-23 Thread Mark McClain
On Sep 19, 2014, at 9:13 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: Cross interaction with Neutron and Cinder remains racey. We are pretty optimistic on when resources will be available. Even the event interface with Neutron hasn't fully addressed this. I think a really great Design Summit session

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Some ideas for micro-version implementation

2014-09-23 Thread Andrew Laski
On 09/23/2014 01:15 PM, Kevin L. Mitchell wrote: On Tue, 2014-09-23 at 12:09 -0400, Jay Pipes wrote: I'd like to say finally that I think there should be an OpenStack API working group whose job it is to both pull together a set of OpenStack API practices as well as evaluate new REST APIs

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Some ideas for micro-version implementation

2014-09-23 Thread Louis Taylor
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 01:32:50PM -0400, Andrew Laski wrote: I've been thinking along very similar lines, but I don't think each current API needs to be replaced. I would very much like to see a unified API project that could be responsible for managing requests to boot an instance with this

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] Not seeking another term as PTL

2014-09-23 Thread Mike Perez
On 08:57 Tue 23 Sep , John Griffith wrote: Hey Everyone, I've been kinda mixed on this one, but I think it's a good time for me to not run for Cinder PTL. I've been filling the role since we started the idea back at the Folsom Summit, and it's been an absolute pleasure and honor for

[openstack-dev] [oslo] PTL Candidacy

2014-09-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
I am running for PTL for Oslo for the Kilo release cycle. I have served 2 terms now, and my tl;dr platform for Kilo is, “More of the same!” I have already posted the retrospective the team put together for Juno [1], so I won’t go over those items in depth here. From my perspective, the team is

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] Not seeking another term as PTL

2014-09-23 Thread Morgan Fainberg
-Original Message- From: John Griffith john.griffi...@gmail.com Reply: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: September 23, 2014 at 08:02:23 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org)

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Some ideas for micro-version implementation

2014-09-23 Thread Kevin L. Mitchell
On Tue, 2014-09-23 at 18:39 +0100, Louis Taylor wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 01:32:50PM -0400, Andrew Laski wrote: I've been thinking along very similar lines, but I don't think each current API needs to be replaced. I would very much like to see a unified API project that could be

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Some ideas for micro-version implementation

2014-09-23 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/23/2014 02:10 PM, Kevin L. Mitchell wrote: On Tue, 2014-09-23 at 18:39 +0100, Louis Taylor wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 01:32:50PM -0400, Andrew Laski wrote: I've been thinking along very similar lines, but I don't think each current API needs to be replaced. I would very much like to

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] PTL Candidacy

2014-09-23 Thread Tristan Cacqueray
confirmed On 23/09/14 01:54 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: I am running for PTL for Oslo for the Kilo release cycle. I have served 2 terms now, and my tl;dr platform for Kilo is, “More of the same!” I have already posted the retrospective the team put together for Juno [1], so I won’t go

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Convergence: Backing up template instead of stack

2014-09-23 Thread Zane Bitter
On 23/09/14 09:44, Anant Patil wrote: On 23-Sep-14 09:42, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Angus Salkeld's message of 2014-09-22 20:15:43 -0700: On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 1:09 AM, Anant Patil anant.pa...@hp.com wrote: Hi, One of the steps in the direction of convergence is to enable Heat

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Some ideas for micro-version implementation

2014-09-23 Thread Chris Friesen
On 09/23/2014 12:19 PM, Sean Dague wrote: On 09/23/2014 02:10 PM, Kevin L. Mitchell wrote: On Tue, 2014-09-23 at 18:39 +0100, Louis Taylor wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 01:32:50PM -0400, Andrew Laski wrote: I've been thinking along very similar lines, but I don't think each current API needs

[openstack-dev] [vmware] Questions about vmware-driver-ova-support blueprint

2014-09-23 Thread Tesshu M Flower
Hi, I suppose this question is directed at the VMware-API team, Gary, Tracy, Arnaud and Vui in particular? I work at IBM in the Software group working with Dims (Davanum Srinivas) and Radu Mateescu and am particularly interested in ova support with VMware. I've looked at the blueprint (

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-23 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Vishvananda Ishaya vishvana...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 23, 2014, at 8:40 AM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: If we are no longer incubating *programs*, which are the teams of people who we would like to ensure are involved in OpenStack governance,

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-23 Thread Allison Randal
On 09/23/2014 02:18 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: The main goal of incubation, as we did it in the past cycles, is a learning period where the new project aligns enough with the existing ones so that it integrates with them (Horizon shows Sahara dashboard) and won't break them around release time

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Convergence: Backing up template instead of stack

2014-09-23 Thread Joshua Harlow
I believe heat has its own dependency graph implementation but if that was switched to networkx[1] that library has a bunch of nice read/write capabilities. See: https://github.com/networkx/networkx/tree/master/networkx/readwrite And one made for sqlalchemy @

Re: [openstack-dev] pycharm license?

2014-09-23 Thread Andrew Melton
Hi Devs, I have the new license, but it has some new restrictions on it's use. I am still waiting on some clarification, but I do know some situations in which I can distribute the license. I cannot distribute the license to any commercial developers. This means if as part of your job, you

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] Not seeking another term as PTL

2014-09-23 Thread Walter A. Boring IV
John, Thanks for the term as PTL since Cinder got it's start. Without your encouragement when Kurt and I started working on Cinder back during Grizzly. We wouldn't have been successful, and might not even be working on the project to this day. I can't say enough about how helpful you

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-23 Thread Fox, Kevin M
Flavio wrote The reasoning, as explained in an other email, is that from a use-case perspective, strict ordering won't hurt you if you don't need it whereas having to implement it in the client side because the service doesn't provide it can be a PITA. The reasoning is flawed though. If

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Some ideas for micro-version implementation

2014-09-23 Thread Dean Troyer
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: So today we have a proxy API in Nova which does some of this. I guess the question is is it better to do this in Nova in the future or divorce it from there. A stand-alone, production-quality configurable proxy would be useful

Re: [openstack-dev] WARNING: Oslo team is cleaning up the incubator

2014-09-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: The Oslo team is starting to remove deprecated code from the incubator for libraries that graduated this cycle, in preparation for the work we will be doing in Kilo. Any fixes for those modules needed before the

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] 2 weeks in the bug tracker

2014-09-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 23, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Mark McClain m...@mcclain.xyz wrote: On Sep 19, 2014, at 9:13 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: Cross interaction with Neutron and Cinder remains racey. We are pretty optimistic on when resources will be available. Even the event interface with Neutron

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Some ideas for micro-version implementation

2014-09-23 Thread Dean Troyer
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Chris Friesen Why not do something like what is done for the userspace/kernel syscall API? Userspace code tries to use the most recent one it knows about, if that comes back as not a valid syscall then it tries the next older version. As long as trying to use

Re: [openstack-dev] [release] client release deadline - Sept 18th

2014-09-23 Thread Eoghan Glynn
The ceilometer team released python-ceilometerclient vesion 1.0.11 yesterday: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/python-ceilometerclient/1.0.11 Cheers, Eoghan Keystone team has released 0.11.1 of python-keystoneclient. Due to some delays getting things through the gate this took a few extra

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] 2 weeks in the bug tracker

2014-09-23 Thread Devananda van der Veen
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 7:51 AM, Jay S. Bryant jsbry...@electronicjungle.net wrote: On 09/21/2014 07:37 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: When I'm essentially +2 on a change but for a small issue like typos in the commit message, the need for a note in the code or a test (or change to a test), I've

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-23 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/23/2014 09:29 PM, Fox, Kevin M wrote: Flavio wrote The reasoning, as explained in an other email, is that from a use-case perspective, strict ordering won't hurt you if you don't need it whereas having to implement it in the client side because the service doesn't provide it can be a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] PTL Non-Candidacy

2014-09-23 Thread Iccha Sethi
+1 You will be missed Mark. Thank you for your leadership and mentorship. Iccha On 9/23/14, 5:59 AM, stuart.mcla...@hp.com stuart.mcla...@hp.com wrote: Hi Mark, Many thanks for your leadership, and keeping glance so enjoyable to work on over the last few cycles. -Stuart From: Mark

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