Re: [openstack-dev] [gantt] Scheduler sub-group meeting agenda 11/11

2014-11-13 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Le 13/11/2014 06:09, Dugger, Donald D a écrit : OK, as promised I created a Wiki page to keep track of our work items. It’s linked to from the Gantt meeting page and is also available here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Gantt/kilo The important column in the Tasks table is the Patches

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Conditionals, was: New function: first_nonnull

2014-11-13 Thread Joshua Harlow
Will be very interesting to see how this plays out. FYI, yql (a thing yahoo uses a-lot of, internally and externally) has this kind of functionality built-in. https://developer.yahoo.com/yql/guide/yql-execute-chapter.html I am unaware of any python version of a javascript engine that has

[openstack-dev] [Heat] Using Job Queues for timeout ops

2014-11-13 Thread Murugan, Visnusaran
Hi all, Convergence-POC distributes stack operations by sending resource actions over RPC for any heat-engine to execute. Entire stack lifecycle will be controlled by worker/observer notifications. This distributed model has its own advantages and disadvantages. Any stack operation has a

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] oslo.messaging outcome from the summit

2014-11-13 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 12/11/14 15:22 -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: The oslo.messaging session at the summit [1] resulted in some plans to evolve how oslo.messaging works, but probably not during this cycle. First, we talked about what to do about the various drivers like ZeroMQ and the new AMQP 1.0 driver. We

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Using Job Queues for timeout ops

2014-11-13 Thread Joshua Harlow
A question; How is using something like celery in heat vs taskflow in heat (or at least concept [1]) 'to many code change'. Both seem like change of similar levels ;-) What was your metric for determining the code change either would have (out of curiosity)? Perhaps u should look at [2],

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-13 Thread Martin Geisler
Matthias Runge mru...@redhat.com writes: On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 08:35:18AM -0500, Monty Taylor wrote: Just for the record, I believe that we should chose the tools that make sense for making our software, as long as it's not physically impossible for them to be packaged. This means we should

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] disambiguating the term discovery

2014-11-13 Thread Dmitry Tantsur
On 11/12/2014 10:47 PM, Victor Lowther wrote: Hmmm... with this thread in mind, anyone think that changing DISCOVERING to INTROSPECTING in the new state machine spec is a good idea? As before I'm uncertain. Discovery is a troublesome term, but too many people use and recognize it, while IMO

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Consistency, efficiency, and safety of NovaObject.save()

2014-11-13 Thread Nikola Đipanov
On 11/13/2014 02:45 AM, Dan Smith wrote: I’m not sure if I’m seeing the second SELECT here either but I’m less familiar with what I’m looking at. compute_node_update() does the one SELECT as we said, then it doesn’t look like self._from_db_object() would emit any further SQL specific to

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] alpha version numbering discussion from summit

2014-11-13 Thread Thierry Carrez
Doug Hellmann wrote: The outcome of the “Should Oslo continue to use alpha versions” session at the summit [1] was unclear, so I would like to continue the discussion here. As we discussed at the summit, the primary reason for marking Oslo library releases as alphas was to indicate that

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] kilo graduation plans

2014-11-13 Thread Dmitry Tantsur
On 11/12/2014 08:06 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: During our “Graduation Schedule” summit session we worked through the list of modules remaining the in the incubator. Our notes are in the etherpad [1], but as part of the Write it Down” theme for Oslo this cycle I am also posting a summary of the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-13 Thread Martin Geisler
Jiri Tomasek jtoma...@redhat.com writes: Which tools should we use eventually: Based on the contributions by Maxime, Martin and the others, I think the list of tools should end up as follows: Tooling: npm bower gulp While I find the design of Gulp strange, I'm sure it will do the job.

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] oslo.messaging outcome from the summit

2014-11-13 Thread Joshua Harlow
On Nov 13, 2014, at 12:38 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 12/11/14 15:22 -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: The oslo.messaging session at the summit [1] resulted in some plans to evolve how oslo.messaging works, but probably not during this cycle. First, we talked about what to do

Re: [openstack-dev] [sahara] no IRC meeting Nov 6 and Nov 13

2014-11-13 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
Reminder On Tuesday, November 4, 2014, Sergey Lukjanov slukja...@mirantis.com wrote: Hey Sahara folks, just a friendly reminder that there will be no IRC meetings for Sahara on both Nov 6 and Nov 13, because of the summit and a lot of folks who'll be travelling / taking vacations after it.

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] APIImpact flag for specs

2014-11-13 Thread Lucas Alvares Gomes
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 4:45 AM, Angus Salkeld asalk...@mirantis.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 6:45 AM, Everett Toews everett.to...@rackspace.com wrote: Hi All, Chris Yeoh started the use of an APIImpact flag in commit messages for specs in Nova. It adds a requirement for an APIImpact

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Ironic] [Cinder] Baremetal volumes -- how to model direct attached storage

2014-11-13 Thread Robert Collins
Back in the day before the ephemeral hack (though that was something folk have said they would like for libvirt too - so its not such a hack per-se) this was (broadly) sketched out. We spoke with the cinder PTL at the time in portland, from memory. There was no spec, so here is my

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron][NFV][Third-party] CI for NUMA, SR-IOV, and other features that can't be tested on current infra.

2014-11-13 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 03:48:47PM -0500, Russell Bryant wrote: On 11/12/2014 02:11 PM, Steve Gordon wrote: NUMA We still need to identify some hardware to run third party CI for the NUMA-related work, and no doubt other things that will come up. It's expected that this will be

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Using Job Queues for timeout ops

2014-11-13 Thread Murugan, Visnusaran
Hi, Intension is not to transfer work load of a failed engine onto an active one. Convergence implementation that we are working on will be able to recover from a failure, provided a timeout notification hits heat-engine. All I want is a safe holding area for my timeout tasks. Timeout can be a

[openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Preparing the ground for the upcoming 6 months

2014-11-13 Thread Flavio Percoco
Greetings, We had an amazing summit last week where we discussed tons of things for the long and short future of the project. In order to reach those big goals we set for the project, we need to tackle the short term goals first. Please, if you've specs that need to be written do it asap so

[openstack-dev] [glance] Policy file not reloaded after changes

2014-11-13 Thread Ajaya Agrawal
Hi All, The policy file is not reloaded in glance after a change is made to it. You need to restart glance to load the new policy file. I think all other components reload the policy file after a change is made to it. Is it a bug or intended behavior? Cheers, Ajaya

[openstack-dev] [neutron] agent_db module is_active VS is_agent_down

2014-11-13 Thread Gariganti, Sudhakar Babu
Hello Neutron folks, I see that we have an agent property 'is_active' which internally uses the method is_agent_down() defined in AgentDbMixin to let us know if the agent is UP/DOWN, from the server point of view. But I don't see any of the service plugins or schedulers leveraging this

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Consistency, efficiency, and safety of NovaObject.save()

2014-11-13 Thread Matthew Booth
On 13/11/14 08:52, Nikola Đipanov wrote: On 11/13/2014 02:45 AM, Dan Smith wrote: I’m not sure if I’m seeing the second SELECT here either but I’m less familiar with what I’m looking at. compute_node_update() does the one SELECT as we said, then it doesn’t look like self._from_db_object()

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Consistency, efficiency, and safety of NovaObject.save()

2014-11-13 Thread Matthew Booth
On 12/11/14 23:23, Mike Bayer wrote: On Nov 12, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Matthew Booth mbo...@redhat.com wrote: For brevity, I have conflated what happens in object.save() with what happens in db.api. Where the code lives isn't relevant here: I'm only looking at what happens. Specifically, the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-13 Thread Matthias Runge
On 12/11/14 18:23, Jiri Tomasek wrote: I see relation between Nodejs and js libs/tools and Angular app defining it's dependencies using NPM and Bower quite similar as Ruby, Rubygems and Rails application defining it's dependencies in Gemfile.lock. Rubygems are being packaged in distros, so

[openstack-dev] [stable] openstack-stable-maint list has been made read-only

2014-11-13 Thread Alan Pevec
2014-11-11 11:01 GMT+01:00 Alan Pevec ape...@gmail.com: ... All stable maintenance related discussion should happen on openstack-dev with [stable] tag in the subject. openstack-stable-maint list is now configured to discard posts from non-members and reject all posts from members with the

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Consistency, efficiency, and safety of NovaObject.save()

2014-11-13 Thread Matthew Booth
On 12/11/14 19:39, Mike Bayer wrote: On Nov 12, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Dan Smith d...@danplanet.com wrote: I personally favour having consistent behaviour across the board. How about updating them all to auto-refresh by default for consistency, but adding an additional option to save() to

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Consistency, efficiency, and safety of NovaObject.save()

2014-11-13 Thread Matthew Booth
On 12/11/14 19:39, Mike Bayer wrote: lets keep in mind my everyone-likes-it-so-far proposal for reader() and writer(): https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125181/ (this is where it’s going to go as nobody has -1’ed it, so in absence of any “no way!” votes I have to assume this is what we’re

[openstack-dev] [Trove][Cinder][all] Gently reminder of our commit guidelines

2014-11-13 Thread Flavio Percoco
Greetings, Every once in a while we need to revisit our guidelines and even more importantly we need to advocate for them and make sure the community, especially core members, are on the same page with regards to those guidelines. I've seen poor commit messages lately, which don't clearly

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] disambiguating the term discovery

2014-11-13 Thread Ganapathy, Sandhya
Hi All, Based on the discussions, I have filed a blue print that initiates discovery of node hardware details given its credentials at chassis level. I am in the process of creating a spec for it. Do share your thoughts regarding this -

[openstack-dev] [stable] Organizational changes to support stable branches

2014-11-13 Thread Thierry Carrez
TL;DR: Every project should designate a Stable branch liaison. Hi everyone, Last week at the summit we discussed evolving the governance around stable branches, in order to maintain them more efficiently (and hopefully for a longer time) in the future. The current situation is the following:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Conditionals, was: New function: first_nonnull

2014-11-13 Thread Angus Salkeld
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 4:00 AM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-11-12 08:42:44 -0800: On 12/11/14 10:10, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-11-11 13:06:17 -0800: On 11/11/14 13:34, Ryan Brown wrote: I am

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Using Job Queues for timeout ops

2014-11-13 Thread Angus Salkeld
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Murugan, Visnusaran visnusaran.muru...@hp.com wrote: Hi all, Convergence-POC distributes stack operations by sending resource actions over RPC for any heat-engine to execute. Entire stack lifecycle will be controlled by worker/observer notifications. This

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] disambiguating the term discovery

2014-11-13 Thread Lucas Alvares Gomes
Hi On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Ganapathy, Sandhya sandhya.ganapa...@hp.com wrote: Hi All, Based on the discussions, I have filed a blue print that initiates discovery of node hardware details given its credentials at chassis level. I am in the process of creating a spec for it. Do

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] HA cross project session summary and next steps

2014-11-13 Thread Angus Salkeld
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Angus Salkeld asalk...@mirantis.com wrote: Hi all The HA session was really well attended and I'd like to give some feedback from the session. Firstly there is some really good content here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-crossproject-ha-integration

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-13 Thread Radomir Dopieralski
On 11/11/14 08:02, Richard Jones wrote: [...] There were some discussions around tooling. We're using xstatic to manage 3rd party components, but there's a lot missing from that environment. I hesitate to add supporting xstatic components on to the already large pile of work we have to do,

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] python-troveclient keystone v3 support breaking the world

2014-11-13 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 12/11/14 15:17, Sean Dague wrote: 1) just delete the trove exercise so we can move forward - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/133930 - that will need to be backported as well. The patch is merged. Do we still need to backport it baring in

[openstack-dev] [Ironic] Changing our weekly meeting format

2014-11-13 Thread Lucas Alvares Gomes
This was discussed in the Contributor Meetup on Friday at the Summit but I think it's important to share on the mail list too so we can get more opnions/suggestions/comments about it. In the Ironic weekly meeting we dedicate a good time of the meeting to do some announcements, reporting bug

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Ironic] [Cinder] Baremetal volumes -- how to model direct attached storage

2014-11-13 Thread Duncan Thomas
The problem with considering it a cinder volume rather than a nova ephemeral volume is that it is just as leaky a set of semantics - cinder volumes can be detached, attached elsewhere, snapshotted, backed up, etc - a directly connected bare metal drive will be able to do none of these things.

[openstack-dev] [neutron] L2 gateway as a service

2014-11-13 Thread Kamat, Maruti Haridas
Hi Friends, As discussed during the summit, I have uploaded the spec for review at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134179/https://review.openstack.org/ Thanks, Maruti ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org

[openstack-dev] [Neutron] VMware networking support

2014-11-13 Thread Gary Kotton
Hi, A few months back we started to work on a umbrella spec for Vmware networking support (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105369). There are a number of different proposals for a number of different use cases. In addition to providing one another with an update of our progress we need to

[openstack-dev] [Doc] Bug Triage Day - Nov. 20

2014-11-13 Thread Anne Gentle
Hi all, To follow in the footsteps of the inimitable Infra team, we want to start monthly bug triaging days. Thursdays seem to be good days for our Aussie counterparts and follow the milestone pattern. So I'd like to propose our first for Nov 20. The idea is not to fix bugs, but triage them for

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-13 Thread Radomir Dopieralski
On 13/11/14 08:23, Matthias Runge wrote: [...] Since we don't require node.js on the server (yet), but only for the development process: did anyone look at node's competitors? Like CommonJS, Rhino, or SpiderMonkey? When we were struggling with adding jslint to our CI, we did try a number of

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] alpha version numbering discussion from summit

2014-11-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Nov 13, 2014, at 3:52 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Doug Hellmann wrote: The outcome of the “Should Oslo continue to use alpha versions” session at the summit [1] was unclear, so I would like to continue the discussion here. As we discussed at the summit, the primary

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] kilo graduation plans

2014-11-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Nov 13, 2014, at 3:52 AM, Dmitry Tantsur dtant...@redhat.com wrote: On 11/12/2014 08:06 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: During our “Graduation Schedule” summit session we worked through the list of modules remaining the in the incubator. Our notes are in the etherpad [1], but as part of the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-13 Thread Radomir Dopieralski
On 13/11/14 01:32, Richard Jones wrote: [...] We're currently using xstatic and that works with Linux packaging because it was designed to cope with being a global installation. The current Horizon codebase has a django-xstatic plugin which further makes dealing with xstatic components nicer

[openstack-dev] [nova][neutron] Migration from Nova-net to Neutron

2014-11-13 Thread Hassaan Pasha
Dear all, I have some questions related to the migration of instances from nova-net to neutron. Assuming we have deployed Openstack with neutron disabled and we are running some instances on it. Now suppose we want to migrate the instances to neutron, what mechanism would we require considering

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Using Job Queues for timeout ops

2014-11-13 Thread Murugan, Visnusaran
Parallel worker was what I initially thought. But what to do if the engine hosting that worker goes down? -Vishnu From: Angus Salkeld [mailto:asalk...@mirantis.com] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 5:22 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re:

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable][neutron] Fwd: Re: [Openstack-stable-maint] Neutron backports for security group performance

2014-11-13 Thread James Page
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 12/11/14 17:43, Kevin Benton wrote: This is awesome. I seem to have misplaced my 540-node cluster. ;-) Is it possible for you to also patch in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/132372/ ? In my rally testing of port retrieval, this one

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] disambiguating the term discovery

2014-11-13 Thread Dmitry Tantsur
On 11/13/2014 12:27 PM, Ganapathy, Sandhya wrote: Hi All, Based on the discussions, I have filed a blue print that initiates discovery of node hardware details given its credentials at chassis level. I am in the process of creating a spec for it. Do share your thoughts regarding this -

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] oslo.messaging outcome from the summit

2014-11-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Nov 13, 2014, at 3:38 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 12/11/14 15:22 -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: The oslo.messaging session at the summit [1] resulted in some plans to evolve how oslo.messaging works, but probably not during this cycle. First, we talked about what to do

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] kilo graduation plans

2014-11-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Nov 13, 2014, at 8:31 AM, Dmitry Tantsur dtant...@redhat.com wrote: On 11/13/2014 01:54 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Nov 13, 2014, at 3:52 AM, Dmitry Tantsur dtant...@redhat.com wrote: On 11/12/2014 08:06 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: During our “Graduation Schedule” summit session we

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Using Job Queues for timeout ops

2014-11-13 Thread Zane Bitter
On 13/11/14 06:52, Angus Salkeld wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Murugan, Visnusaran visnusaran.muru...@hp.com mailto:visnusaran.muru...@hp.com wrote: Hi all, __ __ Convergence-POC distributes stack operations by sending resource actions over RPC for any

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Changing our weekly meeting format

2014-11-13 Thread Dmitry Tantsur
On 11/13/2014 01:15 PM, Lucas Alvares Gomes wrote: This was discussed in the Contributor Meetup on Friday at the Summit but I think it's important to share on the mail list too so we can get more opnions/suggestions/comments about it. In the Ironic weekly meeting we dedicate a good time of the

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron] Migration from Nova-net to Neutron

2014-11-13 Thread Oleg Bondarev
Hi, please see answers inline. On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Hassaan Pasha pasha.hass...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, I have some questions related to the migration of instances from nova-net to neutron. Assuming we have deployed Openstack with neutron disabled and we are running some

[openstack-dev] [oslo] reminder about meeting time change

2014-11-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
Before the summit the Oslo team agreed to change our meeting time. Next week will be the first time we meed under the new schedule. 17 Nov 2014 (and every Monday for the rest of Kilo, unless otherwise announced) 16:00 UTC IRC: #openstack-meeting-alt Agenda:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Using Job Queues for timeout ops

2014-11-13 Thread Zane Bitter
On 13/11/14 03:29, Murugan, Visnusaran wrote: Hi all, Convergence-POC distributes stack operations by sending resource actions over RPC for any heat-engine to execute. Entire stack lifecycle will be controlled by worker/observer notifications. This distributed model has its own advantages and

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Using Job Queues for timeout ops

2014-11-13 Thread Murugan, Visnusaran
Zane, We do follow shardy's suggestion of having worker/observer as eventlet in heat-engine. No new process. The timer will be executed under an engine's worker. Question: 1. heat-engine processing resource-action failed (process killed) 2. heat-engine processing timeout for a stack fails

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Consistency, efficiency, and safety of NovaObject.save()

2014-11-13 Thread Dan Smith
On 12/11/14 19:39, Mike Bayer wrote: lets keep in mind my everyone-likes-it-so-far proposal for reader() and writer(): https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125181/ (this is where it’s going to go as nobody has -1’ed it, so in absence of any “no way!” votes I have to assume this is what we’re

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Using Job Queues for timeout ops

2014-11-13 Thread Jastrzebski, Michal
Guys, I don't think we want to get into this cluster management mud. You say let's make observer...and what if observer dies? Do we do observer to observer? And then there is split brain. I'm observer, I've lost connection to worker. Should I restart a worker? Maybe I'm one who lost connection

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Consistency, efficiency, and safety of NovaObject.save()

2014-11-13 Thread Matthew Booth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 13/11/14 14:26, Dan Smith wrote: On 12/11/14 19:39, Mike Bayer wrote: lets keep in mind my everyone-likes-it-so-far proposal for reader() and writer(): https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125181/ (this is where it’s going to go as nobody has -1’ed

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Consistency, efficiency, and safety of NovaObject.save()

2014-11-13 Thread Dan Smith
Can we guarantee that the lifetime of a context object in conductor is a single rpc call, and that the object cannot be referenced from any other thread? Yes, without a doubt. --Dan signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Current development focus

2014-11-13 Thread Mike Scherbakov
Fuelers, among bugs we have to work on, please go over 5.1.1 milestone in the first order. The plan was to declare a code freeze today, but we still have a number of bugs opened there. We need your help here. Also, at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/130717/ we have release notes draft. It also

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Using Job Queues for timeout ops

2014-11-13 Thread Zane Bitter
On 13/11/14 09:31, Jastrzebski, Michal wrote: Guys, I don't think we want to get into this cluster management mud. You say let's make observer...and what if observer dies? Do we do observer to observer? And then there is split brain. I'm observer, I've lost connection to worker. Should I

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] VMware networking support

2014-11-13 Thread Romil Gupta
Fine for me :) On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Gary Kotton gkot...@vmware.com wrote: Hi, A few months back we started to work on a umbrella spec for Vmware networking support (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105369). There are a number of different proposals for a number of different use

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-13 Thread Martin Geisler
Radomir Dopieralski openst...@sheep.art.pl writes: On 11/11/14 08:02, Richard Jones wrote: [...] There were some discussions around tooling. We're using xstatic to manage 3rd party components, but there's a lot missing from that environment. I hesitate to add supporting xstatic components

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Using Job Queues for timeout ops

2014-11-13 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-11-13 05:54:03 -0800: On 13/11/14 03:29, Murugan, Visnusaran wrote: Hi all, Convergence-POC distributes stack operations by sending resource actions over RPC for any heat-engine to execute. Entire stack lifecycle will be controlled by

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] python-troveclient keystone v3 support breaking the world

2014-11-13 Thread Sean Dague
On 11/13/2014 07:14 AM, Ihar Hrachyshka wrote: On 12/11/14 15:17, Sean Dague wrote: 1) just delete the trove exercise so we can move forward - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/133930 - that will need to be backported as well. The patch is merged. Do we still need to backport it baring

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Using Job Queues for timeout ops

2014-11-13 Thread Jastrzebski, Michal
By observer I mean process which will actually notify about stack timeout. Maybe it was poor choice of words. Anyway, something will need to check what stacks are timed out, and that's new single point of failure. -Original Message- From: Zane Bitter [mailto:zbit...@redhat.com]

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-13 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 11/13/2014 12:13 PM, Richard Jones wrote: the npm stuff is all tool chain; tools that I believe should be packaged as such by packagers. npm is already in Debian: https://packages.debian.org/sid/npm However, just like we can't use CPAN, pear install, pip install and such when building or

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] kilo graduation plans

2014-11-13 Thread Rodrigo Duarte
Hi Doug, I'm going to write the spec regarding the policy graduation, it will be placed in the keystone-specs repository. I was wondering if someone have examples of such specs so we can cover all necessary points. On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] TC election by the numbers

2014-11-13 Thread Thierry Carrez
Zane Bitter wrote: On 01/11/14 16:31, Eoghan Glynn wrote: 1. *make a minor concession to proportionality* - while keeping the focus on consensus, e.g. by adopting the proportional Condorcet variant. It would be interesting to see the analysis again, but in the past this proved

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-13 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 11/13/2014 08:05 PM, Radomir Dopieralski wrote: On 11/11/14 08:02, Richard Jones wrote: [...] There were some discussions around tooling. We're using xstatic to manage 3rd party components, but there's a lot missing from that environment. I hesitate to add supporting xstatic components

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Using Job Queues for timeout ops

2014-11-13 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Joshua Harlow's message of 2014-11-13 00:45:07 -0800: A question; How is using something like celery in heat vs taskflow in heat (or at least concept [1]) 'to many code change'. Both seem like change of similar levels ;-) I've tried a few times to dive into refactoring

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-13 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 11/13/2014 08:32 AM, Richard Jones wrote: I note that the Debian JS guidelines* only recommend that libraries *should* be minified (though I'm unsure why they even recommend that). I'm not sure why. Though what *must* be done, is that source packages, and no point, should ever include a

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] kilo graduation plans

2014-11-13 Thread Morgan Fainberg
On Nov 12, 2014, at 14:22, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: On Nov 12, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Adam Young ayo...@redhat.com wrote: On 11/12/2014 02:06 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: During our “Graduation Schedule” summit session we worked through the list of modules remaining the in

[openstack-dev] [nova] Undead DB objects: ProviderFirewallRule and InstanceGroupPolicy?

2014-11-13 Thread Matthew Booth
There are 3 db apis relating to ProviderFirewallRule: provider_fw_rule_create, provider_fw_rule_get_all, and provider_fw_rule_destroy. Of these, only provider_fw_rule_get_all seems to be used. i.e. It seems they can be queried, but not created. InstanceGroupPolicy doesn't seem to be used anywhere

[openstack-dev] [neutron] Is this fix introducing another different bug to dhcp-agent?

2014-11-13 Thread Miguel Ángel Ajo
I believe this fix to IPv6 dhcp spawn breaks isolated metadata when we have a subnet combination like this on a network: 1) IPv6 subnet, with DHCP enabled 2) IPv4 subnet, with isolated metadata enabled. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123671/1/neutron/agent/dhcp_agent.py I haven’t been

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-13 Thread Matthias Runge
On 13/11/14 15:56, Martin Geisler wrote: Maybe a silly question, but why insist on this? Why would you insist on installing a JavaScript based application using your package manager? I'm a huge fan of package managers and typically refuse to install anything globally if it doesn't come as a

[openstack-dev] mixing vif drivers e1000 and virtio

2014-11-13 Thread Srini Sundararajan
Hi, When i create an instance with more than 1 vif, how can i pick and choose/configure which driver (e1000/virtio) i can assign ? Many thanks Sri ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] VMware networking support

2014-11-13 Thread Armando M.
I chimed in on another thread, but I am reinstating my point just in case. On 13 November 2014 04:38, Gary Kotton gkot...@vmware.com wrote: Hi, A few months back we started to work on a umbrella spec for Vmware networking support (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105369). There are a number

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Using Job Queues for timeout ops

2014-11-13 Thread Ryan Brown
On 11/13/2014 09:58 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-11-13 05:54:03 -0800: On 13/11/14 03:29, Murugan, Visnusaran wrote: [snip] 3.Migrate heat to use TaskFlow. (Too many code change) If it's just handling timed triggers (maybe this is closer to #2) and

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Is this fix introducing another different bug to dhcp-agent?

2014-11-13 Thread Robert Li (baoli)
Nice catch. Since it’s already merged, a new bug may be in order. —Robert On 11/13/14, 10:25 AM, Miguel Ángel Ajo majop...@redhat.commailto:majop...@redhat.com wrote: I believe this fix to IPv6 dhcp spawn breaks isolated metadata when we have a subnet combination like this on a network: 1)

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] kilo graduation plans

2014-11-13 Thread Steve Martinelli
looking at http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/oslo-specs/ and http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/keystone-specs/ should have all the info you need. The specs are hosted at: https://github.com/openstack/keystone-specs there's a template spec too. Thanks,

Re: [openstack-dev] mixing vif drivers e1000 and virtio

2014-11-13 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 07:37:33AM -0800, Srini Sundararajan wrote: Hi, When i create an instance with more than 1 vif, how can i pick and choose/configure which driver (e1000/virtio) i can assign ? The vif driver is is customizable at a per-image level using the hw_vif_model metadata

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Changing our weekly meeting format

2014-11-13 Thread Peeyush Gupta
+1 I agree with Lucas. Sounds like a good idea. I guess if we could spare more time for discussing new features and requirements rather than asking for status, that would be helpful for everyone. On 11/13/2014 05:45 PM, Lucas Alvares Gomes wrote: This was discussed in the Contributor Meetup on

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] kilo graduation plans

2014-11-13 Thread Rodrigo Duarte
Thanks Steve. On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Steve Martinelli steve...@ca.ibm.com wrote: looking at http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/oslo-specs/ and http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/keystone-specs/ should have all the info you need. The specs are hosted at:

[openstack-dev] [neutron] - the setup of a DHCP sub-group

2014-11-13 Thread Don Kehn
If this shows up twice sorry for the repeat: Armando, Carl: During the Summit, Armando and I had a very quick conversation concern a blue print that I submitted, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/dhcp-cpnr-integration and Armando had mention the possibility of getting together a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Changing our weekly meeting format

2014-11-13 Thread Ghe Rivero
I agree that a lot of time is missed with the announcement and status reports, but mostly because irc is a slow bandwidth communication channel (like waiting several minutes for a 3 lines announcement to be written) I propose that any announcement and project status must be written in advanced to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-13 Thread Jiri Tomasek
On 11/13/2014 04:04 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: On 11/13/2014 12:13 PM, Richard Jones wrote: the npm stuff is all tool chain; tools that I believe should be packaged as such by packagers. npm is already in Debian: https://packages.debian.org/sid/npm However, just like we can't use CPAN, pear

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-13 Thread Martin Geisler
Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org writes: Also, if the Horizon project starts using something like NPM (which again, is already available in Debian, so it has my preference), will we at least be able to control what version gets in, just like with pip? Yes, npm similarly to pip in that you can

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] Policy file not reloaded after changes

2014-11-13 Thread Nikhil Komawar
Hi Ajaya, We'r making some progress on sync-ing the latest Oslo-incubator code in Glance. It's a little more tricky due to the property protection feature so, we've had some impedance. Please give your feedback at: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/127923/3 Please let me know if you've any

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Changing our weekly meeting format

2014-11-13 Thread Chris K
+1 I think the best use of our time is to discuss new features and functions that may have a api or functional impact for ironic or projects that depend on ironic. Chris Krelle On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:22 AM, Ghe Rivero g...@debian.org wrote: I agree that a lot of time is missed with the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-13 Thread Martin Geisler
Matthias Runge mru...@redhat.com writes: On 13/11/14 15:56, Martin Geisler wrote: Maybe a silly question, but why insist on this? Why would you insist on installing a JavaScript based application using your package manager? I'm a huge fan of package managers and typically refuse to install

[openstack-dev] [glance] security and swift multi-tenant fixes on stable branch

2014-11-13 Thread stuart . mclaren
All, The 0.1.9 version of glance_store, and glance's master branch both contain some fixes for the Swift multi-tenant store. This security related change hasn't merged to glance_store yet: https://review.openstack.org/130200 I'd like to suggest that we try to merge this security fix and

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] security and swift multi-tenant fixes on stable branch

2014-11-13 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 13/11/14 18:17, stuart.mcla...@hp.com wrote: All, The 0.1.9 version of glance_store, and glance's master branch both contain some fixes for the Swift multi-tenant store. This security related change hasn't merged to glance_store yet:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron][NFV][Third-party] CI for NUMA, SR-IOV, and other features that can't be tested on current infra.

2014-11-13 Thread Dan Smith
Yep, it is possible to run the tests inside VMs - the key is that when you create the VMs you need to be able to give them NUMA topology. This is possible if you're creating your VMs using virt-install, but not if you're creating your VMs in a cloud. I think we should explore this a bit more.

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] Policy file not reloaded after changes

2014-11-13 Thread Nikhil Komawar
Forgot to mention the main part - this patch should enable the auto loading of policies. Thanks, -Nikhil From: Nikhil Komawar [nikhil.koma...@rackspace.com] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 11:56 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron][NFV][Third-party] CI for NUMA, SR-IOV, and other features that can't be tested on current infra.

2014-11-13 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 09:28:01AM -0800, Dan Smith wrote: Yep, it is possible to run the tests inside VMs - the key is that when you create the VMs you need to be able to give them NUMA topology. This is possible if you're creating your VMs using virt-install, but not if you're creating

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron][NFV][Third-party] CI for NUMA, SR-IOV, and other features that can't be tested on current infra.

2014-11-13 Thread Dan Smith
That sounds like something worth exploring at least, I didn't know about that kernel build option until now :-) It sounds like it ought to be enough to let us test the NUMA topology handling, CPU pinning and probably huge pages too. Okay. I've been vaguely referring to this as a potential

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-13 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 11/13/2014 10:56 PM, Martin Geisler wrote: Maybe a silly question, but why insist on this? Why would you insist on installing a JavaScript based application using your package manager? I'm a huge fan of package managers and typically refuse to install anything globally if it doesn't come

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] alpha version numbering discussion from summit

2014-11-13 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-11-13 07:50:51 -0500 (-0500), Doug Hellmann wrote: [...] I do remember a comment at some point, and I’m not sure it was in this session, about using the per-project client libraries as “internal only” libraries when the new SDK matures enough that we can declare that the official

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