[openstack-dev] [nova] Request non-priority feature freeze exception for VIF_TYPE_TAP

2015-02-25 Thread Neil Jerram
Although we are past the non-priority deadline, I have been encouraged to request this late exception for Project Calico's spec and code adding VIF_TYPE_TAP to Nova. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/130732/ (spec) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/146914/ (code) Why might you consider this? - It

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] bp serial-ports *partly* implemented?

2015-02-25 Thread Sahid Orentino Ferdjaoui
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 04:19:39PM +0100, Markus Zoeller wrote: Sahid Orentino Ferdjaoui sahid.ferdja...@redhat.com wrote on 02/23/2015 11:13:12 AM: From: Sahid Orentino Ferdjaoui sahid.ferdja...@redhat.com To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)

[openstack-dev] [neutron] OpenFlow security groups (pre-benchmarking plan)

2015-02-25 Thread Miguel Ángel Ajo
I’m writing a plan/script to benchmark OVS+OF(CT) vs OVS+LB+iptables+ipsets, so we can make sure there’s a real difference before jumping into any OpenFlow security group filters when we have connection tracking in OVS. The plan is to keep all of it in a single multicore host, and make all the

[openstack-dev] [api][all] - Openstack.error common library

2015-02-25 Thread Eugeniya Kudryashova
Hi, stackers! As was suggested in topic [1], using an HTTP header was a good solution for communicating common/standardized OpenStack API error codes. So I’d like to begin working on a common library, which will collect all openstack HTTP API errors, and assign them string error codes. My

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][vmware][ironic] Configuring active/passive HA Nova compute

2015-02-25 Thread Matthew Booth
On 25/02/15 11:51, Radoslav Gerganov wrote: On 02/23/2015 03:18 PM, Matthew Booth wrote: On 23/02/15 12:13, Gary Kotton wrote: On 2/23/15, 2:05 PM, Matthew Booth mbo...@redhat.com wrote: On 20/02/15 11:48, Matthew Booth wrote: Gary Kotton came across a doozy of a bug recently:

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable][all] Revisiting the 6 month release cycle

2015-02-25 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2015-02-24 22:06:32 -0600 (-0600), Chris Friesen wrote: [...] Taking it as a dig, sometimes people just have their one itch to scratch and the rest of the project is good enough for them, and I think that's actually okay. Not intended as a dig at anyone... just a subtle reminder that there

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] db-level locks, non-blocking algorithms, active/active DB clusters and IPAM

2015-02-25 Thread Eugene Nikanorov
Thanks for putting this all together, Salvatore. I just want to comment on this suggestion: 1) Move the allocation logic out of the driver, thus making IPAM an independent service. The API workers will then communicate with the IPAM service through a message bus, where IP allocation requests

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Replace eventlet with asyncio

2015-02-25 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Victor Stinner's message of 2015-02-25 02:12:05 -0800: Hi, I also just put up another proposal to consider: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156711/ Sew over eventlet + patching with threads My asyncio spec is unclear about WSGI, I just wrote The spec doesn't change

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Shared storage support

2015-02-25 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 02:08:32PM +, Gary Kotton wrote: Hi, There is an issue with the statistics reported when a nova compute driver has shared storage attached. That is, there may be more than one compute node reporting on the shared storage. A patch has been posted -

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Request non-priority feature freeze exception for VIF_TYPE_TAP

2015-02-25 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 11:46:05AM +, Neil Jerram wrote: Although we are past the non-priority deadline, I have been encouraged to request this late exception for Project Calico's spec and code adding VIF_TYPE_TAP to Nova. I'm afraid you're also past the freeze exception request deadline.

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] [Cinder-GlusterFS CI] centos7 gate job abrupt failures

2015-02-25 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2015-02-25 17:02:34 +0530 (+0530), Deepak Shetty wrote: [...] Run 2) We removed glusterfs backend, so Cinder was configured with the default storage backend i.e. LVM. We re-created the OOM here too So that proves that glusterfs doesn't cause it, as its happening without glusterfs too.

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][vmware][ironic] Configuring active/passive HA Nova compute

2015-02-25 Thread Radoslav Gerganov
On 02/23/2015 03:18 PM, Matthew Booth wrote: On 23/02/15 12:13, Gary Kotton wrote: On 2/23/15, 2:05 PM, Matthew Booth mbo...@redhat.com wrote: On 20/02/15 11:48, Matthew Booth wrote: Gary Kotton came across a doozy of a bug recently: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1419785 In short,

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] OpenFlow security groups (pre-benchmarking plan)

2015-02-25 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 7:52 AM, Miguel Ángel Ajo majop...@redhat.com wrote: I’m writing a plan/script to benchmark OVS+OF(CT) vs OVS+LB+iptables+ipsets, so we can make sure there’s a real difference before jumping into any OpenFlow security group filters when we have connection tracking in

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] Resuming of workflows/tasks

2015-02-25 Thread Kekane, Abhishek
Hi Michal, 1. Need of distributed lock to avoid same task being resumed by two instances of a service. Do we need tooz to do that or is there any other solution? Tooz library is already being used in ceilometer to manage group membership.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] db-level locks, non-blocking algorithms, active/active DB clusters and IPAM

2015-02-25 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Salvatore Orlando's message of 2015-02-23 04:07:38 -0800: Lazy-Stacker summary: I am doing some work on Neutron IPAM code for IP Allocation, and I need to found whether it's better to use db locking queries (SELECT ... FOR UPDATE) or some sort of non-blocking algorithm. Some

Re: [openstack-dev] [manuals] Training guide issue

2015-02-25 Thread Andreas Jaeger
On 02/25/2015 03:16 AM, Ajay Kalambur (akalambu) wrote: Hi I am trying to just get started with openstack commits and wanted to start by fixing some documentation bugs. I assigned 3 bugs which seem to be in the same file/area Welcome! Let's discuss this on the openstack-docs mailing list,

[openstack-dev] [nova] Shared storage support

2015-02-25 Thread Gary Kotton
Hi, There is an issue with the statistics reported when a nova compute driver has shared storage attached. That is, there may be more than one compute node reporting on the shared storage. A patch has been posted - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155184. The direction here was to add a extra

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] OpenFlow security groups (pre-benchmarking plan)

2015-02-25 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Miguel Ángel Ajo majop...@redhat.com wrote: On Wednesday, 25 de February de 2015 at 15:38, Kyle Mestery wrote: On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 7:52 AM, Miguel Ángel Ajo majop...@redhat.com wrote: I’m writing a plan/script to benchmark OVS+OF(CT) vs

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] OpenFlow security groups (pre-benchmarking plan)

2015-02-25 Thread Brian Haley
On 02/25/2015 08:52 AM, Miguel Ángel Ajo wrote: I’m writing a plan/script to benchmark OVS+OF(CT) vs OVS+LB+iptables+ipsets, so we can make sure there’s a real difference before jumping into any OpenFlow security group filters when we have connection tracking in OVS. The plan is to keep all

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] [Cinder-GlusterFS CI] centos7 gate job abrupt failures

2015-02-25 Thread Deepak Shetty
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 6:34 PM, Jeremy Stanley fu...@yuggoth.org wrote: On 2015-02-25 17:02:34 +0530 (+0530), Deepak Shetty wrote: [...] Run 2) We removed glusterfs backend, so Cinder was configured with the default storage backend i.e. LVM. We re-created the OOM here too So that

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] db-level locks, non-blocking algorithms, active/active DB clusters and IPAM

2015-02-25 Thread Salvatore Orlando
Thanks Clint. I think you are bringing an interesting and disruptive perspective into this discussion. Disruptive because one thing that has not been considered so far in this thread is that perhaps we don't need at all to leverage multi-master capabilities for write operations. More comments

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] db-level locks, non-blocking algorithms, active/active DB clusters and IPAM

2015-02-25 Thread Salvatore Orlando
On 25 February 2015 at 13:50, Eugene Nikanorov enikano...@mirantis.com wrote: Thanks for putting this all together, Salvatore. I just want to comment on this suggestion: 1) Move the allocation logic out of the driver, thus making IPAM an independent service. The API workers will then

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] db-level locks, non-blocking algorithms, active/active DB clusters and IPAM

2015-02-25 Thread Carl Baldwin
jOn Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 5:07 AM, Salvatore Orlando sorla...@nicira.com wrote: Lazy-Stacker summary: I am doing some work on Neutron IPAM code for IP Allocation, and I need to found whether it's better to use db locking queries (SELECT ... FOR UPDATE) or some sort of non-blocking algorithm.

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] OpenFlow security groups (pre-benchmarking plan)

2015-02-25 Thread Miguel Ángel Ajo
On Wednesday, 25 de February de 2015 at 15:38, Kyle Mestery wrote: On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 7:52 AM, Miguel Ángel Ajo majop...@redhat.com (mailto:majop...@redhat.com) wrote: I’m writing a plan/script to benchmark OVS+OF(CT) vs OVS+LB+iptables+ipsets, so we can make sure there’s a real

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Stepping down from Ironic Core

2015-02-25 Thread Ruby Loo
Hi Robert, I'm really glad I had a chance to interact with you. Thanks for everything; I'm hopeful that we'll see you back. Ironic still has lots of life, so I guess life goes on without lifeless, but I'll miss you still. ;) --ruby

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] db-level locks, non-blocking algorithms, active/active DB clusters and IPAM

2015-02-25 Thread Salvatore Orlando
On 25 February 2015 at 16:52, Carl Baldwin c...@ecbaldwin.net wrote: jOn Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 5:07 AM, Salvatore Orlando sorla...@nicira.com wrote: Lazy-Stacker summary: I am doing some work on Neutron IPAM code for IP Allocation, and I need to found whether it's better to use db locking

Re: [openstack-dev] [api][all][log] - Openstack.error common library

2015-02-25 Thread Kuvaja, Erno
Hi Eugeniya, Please have a look on the discussion under tag [log]. We’ve been discussing around this topic (bit wider, not limiting to API errors) quite regular since Paris Summit and we should have X-project specs for review quite soon after the Ops meetup. The workgroup meetings will start

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] patches that only address grammatical/typos

2015-02-25 Thread Dmitry Tantsur
On 02/25/2015 05:26 PM, Ruby Loo wrote: Hi, I was wondering what people thought about patches that only fix grammatical issues or misspellings in comments in our code. I can't believe I'm sending out this email, but as a group, I'd like it if we had a similar understanding so that we treat

Re: [openstack-dev] [Congress][Delegation] Initial workflow design

2015-02-25 Thread ruby.krishnaswamy
Hi Tim, All, 1) Step 3: The VM-placement engine is also a datalog engine . Right? When policies are delegated: when policies are inserted? When the VM-placement engine has already registered itself all policies are given to it? In our example, this would mean the domain-specific

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] (RE: Change in openstack/neutron-specs[master]: Introducing Tap-as-a-Service)

2015-02-25 Thread Salvatore Orlando
From previous discussion, it appeared the proposer really felt this needed to be a core neutron aspect. Where by core they meant both be part of the core API and part of openstack/neutron. On the other hand, we also agreed that the best way forward was to develop a service plugin which in a way

Re: [openstack-dev] [api][all] - Openstack.error common library

2015-02-25 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015, at 09:33 AM, Eugeniya Kudryashova wrote: Hi, stackers! As was suggested in topic [1], using an HTTP header was a good solution for communicating common/standardized OpenStack API error codes. So I’d like to begin working on a common library, which will collect all

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] patches that only address grammatical/typos

2015-02-25 Thread Alexis Lee
Ruby Loo said on Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 11:26:56AM -0500: I was wondering what people thought about patches that only fix grammatical issues or misspellings in comments in our code. For my money, a patch fixing nits has value but only if it fixes a few. If it's a follow-up patch it should fix all

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] db-level locks, non-blocking algorithms, active/active DB clusters and IPAM

2015-02-25 Thread John Belamaric
On 2/25/15, 10:52 AM, Carl Baldwin c...@ecbaldwin.net wrote: Wondering if Kilo should just focus on creating the interface which will allow us to create multiple implementations and swap them out during the Liberty development cycle. Hopefully, this could include even something like your

[openstack-dev] [all] oslo.messaging 1.7.0 released

2015-02-25 Thread Mehdi Abaakouk
The Oslo team is thrilled to announce the release of: oslo.messaging 1.7.0: Oslo Messaging API For more details, please see the git log history below and: http://launchpad.net/oslo.messaging/+milestone/1.7.0 Please report issues through launchpad:

[openstack-dev] [Ironic] patches that only address grammatical/typos

2015-02-25 Thread Ruby Loo
Hi, I was wondering what people thought about patches that only fix grammatical issues or misspellings in comments in our code. I can't believe I'm sending out this email, but as a group, I'd like it if we had a similar understanding so that we treat all patches in a similar (dare I say it,

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] OpenFlow security groups (pre-benchmarking plan)

2015-02-25 Thread Rick Jones
On 02/25/2015 05:52 AM, Miguel Ángel Ajo wrote: I’m writing a plan/script to benchmark OVS+OF(CT) vs OVS+LB+iptables+ipsets, so we can make sure there’s a real difference before jumping into any OpenFlow security group filters when we have connection tracking in OVS. The plan is to keep all of

[openstack-dev] [OpenStackClient] New meeting time

2015-02-25 Thread Dean Troyer
[Parse the subject as new-meeting time, as there is no old meeting time...] OpenStackClient will start holding periodic development team meetings on Thursday Feb 26 at 18:00 UTC in Freenode's #openstack-meeting channel. One of the first things I want to cover is timing and frequency of these

Re: [openstack-dev] H302 considered harmful

2015-02-25 Thread Robert Collins
On 26 February 2015 at 08:54, melanie witt melwi...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 25, 2015, at 10:51, Duncan Thomas duncan.tho...@gmail.com wrote: Is there anybody who'd like to step forward in defence of this rule and explain why it is an improvement? I don't discount for a moment the

Re: [openstack-dev] H302 considered harmful

2015-02-25 Thread John Griffith
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: On 26 February 2015 at 08:54, melanie witt melwi...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 25, 2015, at 10:51, Duncan Thomas duncan.tho...@gmail.com wrote: Is there anybody who'd like to step forward in defence of this

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] ML2 versus core plugin for OVN

2015-02-25 Thread Kevin Benton
The fact that a system doesn't use a neutron agent is not a good justification for monolithic vs driver. The VLAN drivers co-exist with OVS just fine when using VLAN encapsulation even though some are agent-less. There is a missing way to coordinate connectivity with tunnel networks across

[openstack-dev] [all] creating a unified developer reference manual

2015-02-25 Thread Doug Hellmann
During yesterday’s cross-project meeting [1], we discussed the Eventlet Best Practices” spec [2] started by bnemec. The discussion of that spec revolved around the question of whether our cross-project specs repository is the right place for this type of document that isn’t a “plan” for a

[openstack-dev] [Fuel] [plugins] A simple network to interface mapping in astute.yaml

2015-02-25 Thread Andrey Danin
Hi, fuelers, As you may know, we have a rich and complex network_transformations section in astute.yaml. We use it to describe which OVS/Linux network primitives should be created and how they should be connected together. This section is used by l23network Puppet module during the deployment

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] ML2 versus core plugin for OVN

2015-02-25 Thread Kevin Benton
Yeah, it seems ML2 at the least should save you a lot of boilerplate. On Feb 25, 2015 2:32 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 02/24/2015 05:38 PM, Kevin Benton wrote: OVN implementing it's own control plane isn't a good reason to make it a monolithic plugin. Many of the ML2

Re: [openstack-dev] H302 considered harmful

2015-02-25 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Duncan Thomas duncan.tho...@gmail.com wrote: Hi So a review [1] was recently submitted to cinder to fix up all of the H302 violations, and turn on the automated check for them. This is certainly a reasonable suggestion given the number of manual reviews that

Re: [openstack-dev] H302 considered harmful

2015-02-25 Thread Duncan Thomas
Thanks for that, Joe. I'd say the cons miss 'It looks ugly in places'. On 25 February 2015 at 20:54, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Duncan Thomas duncan.tho...@gmail.com wrote: Hi So a review [1] was recently submitted to cinder to fix up all of

Re: [openstack-dev] H302 considered harmful

2015-02-25 Thread melanie witt
On Feb 25, 2015, at 10:51, Duncan Thomas duncan.tho...@gmail.com wrote: Is there anybody who'd like to step forward in defence of this rule and explain why it is an improvement? I don't discount for a moment the possibility I'm missing something, and welcome the education in that case A

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] OpenFlow security groups (pre-benchmarking plan)

2015-02-25 Thread Tapio Tallgren
Hi, The RFC2544 with near zero packet loss is a pretty standard performance benchmark. It is also used in the OPNFV project ( https://wiki.opnfv.org/characterize_vswitch_performance_for_telco_nfv_use_cases ). Does this mean that OpenStack will have stateful firewalls (or security groups)? Any

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable][all] Revisiting the 6 month release cycle

2015-02-25 Thread Johannes Erdfelt
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015, Jeremy Stanley fu...@yuggoth.org wrote: On 2015-02-24 10:00:51 -0800 (-0800), Johannes Erdfelt wrote: [...] Recently, I have spent a lot more time waiting on reviews than I have spent writing the actual code. That's awesome, assuming what you mean here is that you've

[openstack-dev] H302 considered harmful

2015-02-25 Thread Duncan Thomas
Hi So a review [1] was recently submitted to cinder to fix up all of the H302 violations, and turn on the automated check for them. This is certainly a reasonable suggestion given the number of manual reviews that -1 for this issue, however I'm far from convinced it actually makes the code more

[openstack-dev] [neutron][docs] VPNaaS API reference missing...

2015-02-25 Thread Paul Michali
Not sure where it disappeared, but there are none of the API pages for VPNaaS exist. This was added some time ago (I think it was review 41702 back in 9/2013). Mentioned to Edgar, but wanted to let the community know... PCM (Paul Michali) IRC pc_m (irc.freenode.com) Twitter...

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStackClient] New meeting time

2015-02-25 Thread Steve Martinelli
\o/ I'll be there! Thanks for organizing it all Dean. Steve Dean Troyer dtro...@gmail.com wrote on 02/25/2015 12:19:38 PM: From: Dean Troyer dtro...@gmail.com To: OpenStack Development Mailing List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: 02/25/2015 12:32 PM Subject: [openstack-dev]

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][docs] VPNaaS API reference missing...

2015-02-25 Thread Salvatore Orlando
As you can see, netconn-api has gone into the Openstack-attic. A few months ago, all neutron API reference docs were moved into neutron-specs (similar things happened to other projects). The new home of the VPN API spec is [1] Salvatore [1]

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] bp serial-ports *partly* implemented?

2015-02-25 Thread Markus Zoeller
Sahid Orentino Ferdjaoui sahid.ferdja...@redhat.com wrote on 02/25/2015 12:58:30 PM: [...] So we probably have a bug here, can you at least refer it in launchpad ? We need to see if the problem comes from the code in Nova or a bad interpretation of the behavior of libvirt or a bug in

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] patches that only address grammatical/typos

2015-02-25 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015, at 12:36 PM, Jay Faulkner wrote: On Feb 25, 2015, at 10:26 AM, Ruby Loo rlooya...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I was wondering what people thought about patches that only fix grammatical issues or misspellings in comments in our code. I can't believe I'm

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStackClient] New meeting time

2015-02-25 Thread Doug Hellmann
Ditto! On Wed, Feb 25, 2015, at 01:35 PM, Steve Martinelli wrote: \o/ I'll be there! Thanks for organizing it all Dean. Steve Dean Troyer dtro...@gmail.com wrote on 02/25/2015 12:19:38 PM: From: Dean Troyer dtro...@gmail.com To: OpenStack Development Mailing List

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Re-evaluating the suitability of the 6 month release cycle

2015-02-25 Thread Alex Glikson
Tom Fifield t...@openstack.org wrote on 25/02/2015 06:46:13 AM: On 24/02/15 19:27, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 12:05:17PM +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: Daniel P. Berrange wrote: [...] I'm not familiar with how the translations works, but if they are waiting until

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][vmware][ironic] Configuring active/passive HA Nova compute

2015-02-25 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 3:48 AM, Matthew Booth mbo...@redhat.com wrote: Gary Kotton came across a doozy of a bug recently: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1419785 In short, when you start a Nova compute, it will query the driver for instances and compare that against the expected host

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] creating a unified developer reference manual

2015-02-25 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: During yesterday’s cross-project meeting [1], we discussed the Eventlet Best Practices” spec [2] started by bnemec. The discussion of that spec revolved around the question of whether our cross-project specs

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] Resources owned by a project/tenant are not cleaned up after that project is deleted from keystone

2015-02-25 Thread Joe Gordon
On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 5:03 AM, Tim Bell tim.b...@cern.ch wrote: A few inline comments and a general point How do we handle scenarios like volumes when we have a per-component janitor rather than a single co-ordinator ? To be clean, 1. nova should shutdown the instance 2. nova should

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable][all] Revisiting the 6 month release cycle

2015-02-25 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Johannes Erdfelt wrote: On Tue, Feb 24, 2015, Jeremy Stanley fu...@yuggoth.org wrote: On 2015-02-24 10:00:51 -0800 (-0800), Johannes Erdfelt wrote: [...] Recently, I have spent a lot more time waiting on reviews than I have spent writing the actual

[openstack-dev] sqlalchemy-migrate 0.9.5 released

2015-02-25 Thread Matt Riedemann
https://pypi.python.org/pypi/sqlalchemy-migrate/0.9.5 Changes: mriedem@ubuntu:~/git/sqlalchemy-migrate$ git log --oneline --no-merges 0.9.4..0.9.5 5feeaba Don't run the test if _setup() fails c8c5c4b Correcting minor typo 9d212e6 Fix .gitignore for .tox and .testrepository ae64d82 allow

Re: [openstack-dev] H302 considered harmful

2015-02-25 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Duncan Thomas's message of 2015-02-25 10:51:00 -0800: Hi So a review [1] was recently submitted to cinder to fix up all of the H302 violations, and turn on the automated check for them. This is certainly a reasonable suggestion given the number of manual reviews that -1 for

Re: [openstack-dev] H302 considered harmful

2015-02-25 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015, at 02:59 PM, Robert Collins wrote: On 26 February 2015 at 08:54, melanie witt melwi...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 25, 2015, at 10:51, Duncan Thomas duncan.tho...@gmail.com wrote: Is there anybody who'd like to step forward in defence of this rule and explain why it

Re: [openstack-dev] H302 considered harmful

2015-02-25 Thread Duncan Thomas
Clint This rule is not currently enabled in Cinder. This review fixes up all cases and enables it, which is absolutely 100% the right thing to do if we decide to implement this rule. The purpose of this thread is to understand the value of the rule. We should either enforce it, or else

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] Resources owned by a project/tenant are not cleaned up after that project is deleted from keystone

2015-02-25 Thread Matt Joyce
Wondering if heat should be performing this orchestration. Would provide for a more pluggable front end to the action set. -matt On Feb 25, 2015 2:37 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 5:03 AM, Tim Bell tim.b...@cern.ch wrote: A few inline comments and a

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable][requirements] External dependency caps introduced in 499db6b

2015-02-25 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 7:00 AM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 23, 2015, at 06:31 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 23, 2015, at 12:26 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: On Mon, Feb 23,

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] creating a unified developer reference manual

2015-02-25 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015, at 03:14 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: During yesterday’s cross-project meeting [1], we discussed the Eventlet Best Practices” spec [2] started by bnemec. The discussion of that spec revolved

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] creating a unified developer reference manual

2015-02-25 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 25, 2015, at 03:14 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: During yesterday’s cross-project meeting [1], we discussed the Eventlet

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][docs] VPNaaS API reference missing...

2015-02-25 Thread Paul Michali
Cool! Glad to see it is not gone. Should it also be on the API reference pages? http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-networking-v2.html PCM (Paul Michali) IRC pc_m (irc.freenode.com) Twitter... @pmichali On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Salvatore Orlando sorla...@nicira.com

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable][all] Revisiting the 6 month release cycle

2015-02-25 Thread Ian Cordasco
On 2/25/15, 14:41, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 25, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Johannes Erdfelt wrote: On Tue, Feb 24, 2015, Jeremy Stanley fu...@yuggoth.org wrote: On 2015-02-24 10:00:51 -0800 (-0800), Johannes Erdfelt wrote: [...] Recently, I have spent a lot more

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][docs] VPNaaS API reference missing...

2015-02-25 Thread Anne Gentle
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 3:11 PM, Paul Michali p...@michali.net wrote: Cool! Glad to see it is not gone. Should it also be on the API reference pages? http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-networking-v2.html Yes, we've had a doc bug since last fall about it being missing from the API

[openstack-dev] [openstack-operators][Rally][HA-testing][multi-scenarios-load-gen] Proposal to change Rally input task format

2015-02-25 Thread Boris Pavlovic
Hi stackers, When we started Rally we have a just small idea to make some tool that generates load and measures performance. During almost 2 years a lot of changed in Rally, so now it's quite common testing framework that allows to cover various topics like: stress, load, volume, performance,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] patches that only address grammatical/typos

2015-02-25 Thread Sean Dague
We've unwound the gate quite a bit, so the cost of extra patches in the merge queue fixing trivial things (like comment spelling) is pretty low. Honestly, I'd much rather merge functional fixes faster and not go an extra 2 rounds of typo fixing (assuming the English is decipherable), and merge

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable][requirements] External dependency caps introduced in 499db6b

2015-02-25 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015, at 04:04 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 7:00 AM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 23, 2015, at 06:31 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: On

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] patches that only address grammatical/typos

2015-02-25 Thread Bernard Van De Walle
Jay, I can only confirm your point of view. I personally landed such a patch yesterday and saw it as an easy way to get familiar with Gerrit. My goal being to land some more complex patches in the near future. Bernard On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] creating a unified developer reference manual

2015-02-25 Thread michael mccune
On 02/25/2015 02:54 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: During yesterday’s cross-project meeting [1], we discussed the Eventlet Best Practices” spec [2] started by bnemec. The discussion of that spec revolved around the question of whether our cross-project specs repository is the right place for this

[openstack-dev] [QA] Meeting Thursday February 26th at 17:00 UTC

2015-02-25 Thread Matthew Treinish
Hi everyone, Just a quick reminder that the weekly OpenStack QA team IRC meeting will be tomorrow Thursday, February 26th at 17:00 UTC in the #openstack-meeting channel. The agenda for tomorrow's meeting can be found here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting Anyone is welcome

Re: [openstack-dev] H302 considered harmful

2015-02-25 Thread Min Pae
The “making things more explicit” argument carried to its logical conclusion would require that no “import … as …” ever be used either, and we would have to use the full namespace/path for each module or function being used. With allowing “import … as …” and the practice of extending and monkey

Re: [openstack-dev] H302 considered harmful

2015-02-25 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Duncan Thomas's message of 2015-02-25 12:51:35 -0800: Clint This rule is not currently enabled in Cinder. This review fixes up all cases and enables it, which is absolutely 100% the right thing to do if we decide to implement this rule. The purpose of this thread is to

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] ML2 versus core plugin for OVN

2015-02-25 Thread Kevin Benton
You can horizontally split as well (if I understand what axis definitions you are using). The Big Switch driver for example will bind ports that belong to hypervisors running IVS while leaving the OVS driver to bind ports attached to hypervisors running OVS. I don't fully understand your comments

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] ML2 versus core plugin for OVN

2015-02-25 Thread Kevin Benton
In the cases I'm referring to, OVS handles the security groups and vswitch. The other drivers handle fabric configuration for VLAN tagging to the host and whatever other plumbing they want to do. On Feb 25, 2015 5:30 PM, loy wolfe loywo...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 3:51 AM,

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] ML2 versus core plugin for OVN

2015-02-25 Thread loy wolfe
Oh, what you mean is vertical splitting, while I'm talking about horizontal splitting. I'm a little confused about why Neutron is designed so differently with Nova and Cinder. In fact MD could be very simple, delegating nearly all things out to agent. Remember Cinder volume manager? The real

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] Resources owned by a project/tenant are not cleaned up after that project is deleted from keystone

2015-02-25 Thread Dolph Mathews
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 25/02/15 15:37, Joe Gordon wrote: On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 5:03 AM, Tim Bell tim.b...@cern.ch mailto:tim.b...@cern.ch wrote: A few inline comments and a general point How do we handle scenarios like

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Stepping down from Ironic Core

2015-02-25 Thread Devananda van der Veen
Robert, Thank you for all your input and insight over the last two years. Our architectural discussions have been invaluable to me and helped shape Ironic into what it is today. All the best, Devananda On Tue Feb 24 2015 at 4:26:54 PM Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: Like with

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] (RE: Change in openstack/neutron-specs[master]: Introducing Tap-as-a-Service)

2015-02-25 Thread Paul Carver
On 2/24/2015 6:47 PM, Kevin Benton wrote: More seriously, have you considered starting a tap-as-a-service project on stackforge now that the services split has established a framework for advanced services? Uploading the code you are using to do it is a great way to get people motivated to try

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] patches that only address grammatical/typos

2015-02-25 Thread Robert Collins
On 26 February 2015 at 05:26, Ruby Loo rlooya...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I was wondering what people thought about patches that only fix grammatical issues or misspellings in comments in our code. I can't believe I'm sending out this email, but as a group, I'd like it if we had a similar

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Re-evaluating the suitability of the 6 month release cycle

2015-02-25 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 02/24/2015 12:27 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: I'm actually trying to judge it from the POV of users, not just developers. I find it pretty untenable that in the fast moving world of cloud, users have to wait as long as 6 months for a feature to get into a openstack release, often much

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] Resources owned by a project/tenant are not cleaned up after that project is deleted from keystone

2015-02-25 Thread Zane Bitter
On 25/02/15 19:15, Dolph Mathews wrote: On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com mailto:zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 25/02/15 15:37, Joe Gordon wrote: On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 5:03 AM, Tim Bell tim.b...@cern.ch mailto:tim.b...@cern.ch

[openstack-dev] [Manila] Devstack+Manila -- old method won't work anymore

2015-02-25 Thread Ben Swartzlander
Many of you may have gotten in the habit of copying the contrib/devstack folder in order to make Manila work with Devstack. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158054/ Once the above change merges, that method of installing Manila with Devstack won't work anymore. Valeriy was kind enough to

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] ML2 versus core plugin for OVN

2015-02-25 Thread loy wolfe
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 3:51 AM, Kevin Benton blak...@gmail.com wrote: The fact that a system doesn't use a neutron agent is not a good justification for monolithic vs driver. The VLAN drivers co-exist with OVS just fine when using VLAN encapsulation even though some are agent-less. so how

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] Resources owned by a project/tenant are not cleaned up after that project is deleted from keystone

2015-02-25 Thread Dolph Mathews
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Matt Joyce m...@nycresistor.com wrote: Wondering if heat should be performing this orchestration. I wouldn't expect heat to have access to everything that needs to be cleaned up. Would provide for a more pluggable front end to the action set. -matt On

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable][requirements] External dependency caps introduced in 499db6b

2015-02-25 Thread Robert Collins
I'll follow-up on the spec, but one thing Donald has been pointing out for a while is that we don't use requirements.txt the way that pip anticipates: the expected use is that a specific install (e.g. the gate) will have a very specific list of requirements, caps etc, but that the install_requires

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] Resources owned by a project/tenant are not cleaned up after that project is deleted from keystone

2015-02-25 Thread Zane Bitter
On 25/02/15 15:37, Joe Gordon wrote: On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 5:03 AM, Tim Bell tim.b...@cern.ch mailto:tim.b...@cern.ch wrote: A few inline comments and a general point How do we handle scenarios like volumes when we have a per-component janitor rather than a single co-ordinator

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] creating a unified developer reference manual

2015-02-25 Thread Miguel Ángel Ajo
Sounds like a very good idea. Cross project development shared knowledge. Miguel Ángel Ajo On Wednesday, 25 de February de 2015 at 22:32, michael mccune wrote: On 02/25/2015 02:54 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: During yesterday’s cross-project meeting [1], we discussed the Eventlet Best

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] OpenFlow security groups (pre-benchmarking plan)

2015-02-25 Thread Miguel Ángel Ajo
On Thursday, 26 de February de 2015 at 7:48, Miguel Ángel Ajo wrote: Inline comments follow after this, but I wanted to respond to Brian question which has been cut out: We’re talking here of doing a preliminary analysis of the networking performance, before writing any real code at

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] OpenFlow security groups (pre-benchmarking plan)

2015-02-25 Thread Miguel Ángel Ajo
Inline comments follow after this, but I wanted to respond to Brian question which has been cut out: We’re talking here of doing a preliminary analysis of the networking performance, before writing any real code at neutron level. If that looks right, then we should go into a preliminary (and

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] OpenFlow security groups (pre-benchmarking plan)

2015-02-25 Thread Ben Pfaff
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 07:48:51AM +0100, Miguel Ángel Ajo wrote: Also, ipset groups can be moved into conjunctive groups in OF (thanks Ben Pfaff for the explanation, if you’re reading this ;-)) You're welcome. __

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] ML2 versus core plugin for OVN

2015-02-25 Thread loy wolfe
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Kevin Benton blak...@gmail.com wrote: You can horizontally split as well (if I understand what axis definitions you are using). The Big Switch driver for example will bind ports that belong to hypervisors running IVS while leaving the OVS driver to bind ports

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Shared storage support

2015-02-25 Thread Alex Xu
Actually I have similar idea, an plan to work on it at L by a nova-spec (is it worth a spec?). But this idea not come from this bug, it's come from other cases: 1. Currently we need specified 'on_shared_storage' and 'block_migration' when evacuate and live_migration. After we tracking the shared

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] ML2 versus core plugin for OVN

2015-02-25 Thread Russell Bryant
On 02/24/2015 05:38 PM, Kevin Benton wrote: OVN implementing it's own control plane isn't a good reason to make it a monolithic plugin. Many of the ML2 drivers are for technologies with their own control plane. Going with the monolithic plugin only makes sense if you are certain that you

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