[openstack-dev] Skipping Cross-Project meeting today?

2015-03-24 Thread Thierry Carrez
Hi! The agenda for the cross-project meeting is currently empty: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/CrossProjectMeeting Unless someone has something urgent to discuss (and adds it to the agenda docket), I propose we skip this one and focus on getting our last feature-freeze exception code

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.config][kolla] modular backends for oslo.cfg

2015-03-24 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: This however won't remove the need of a config file. For instance, plugins like etcd's will need the host/port options to be set somewhere - or passed as a cli parameter. Yes totally! I have been using command line

[openstack-dev] Hyper-V meeting

2015-03-24 Thread Peter Pouliot
Hi All, We're currently working to resolve CI related issues. We'll need to postpone the meeting for this week as a result. p Peter J. Pouliot CISSP Microsoft Enterprise Cloud Solutions C:\OpenStack New England Research Development Center 1 Memorial Drive Cambridge, MA 02142 P:

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][api] Microversions. And why do we need API extensions for new API functionality?

2015-03-24 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2015-03-23 21:31:30 -0400 (-0400), Jay Pipes wrote: On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 09:35:50PM +, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2015-03-23 15:15:18 -0400 (-0400), Jay Pipes wrote: [...] I don't want it suppressed. I want the use of API extensions and the extension framework(s) to be

Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: [cinder] Request exemption for removal of NetApp FC drivers (no voting CI))

2015-03-24 Thread John Griffith
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:52 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Walter A. Boring IV wrote: Thanks Mike for all of your efforts on this, +1 I think Mike checked all the possible boxes to give fair warning to driver owners. It's hard to say no in the name of quality. It's so

Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: [cinder] Request exemption for removal of NetApp FC drivers (no voting CI))

2015-03-24 Thread Mark McClain
On Mar 24, 2015, at 9:30 AM, John Griffith john.griffi...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:52 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org mailto:thie...@openstack.org wrote: Walter A. Boring IV wrote: Thanks Mike for all of your efforts on this, +1 I think Mike checked

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Removing udp_port field from 'ml2_vxlan_endpoint' table

2015-03-24 Thread Mathieu Rohon
Hi Andreas, Linuxbridge is also able to use Unicast, but currently, it is only available when l2pop is activated. AFAIR, I saw the mix of LB agents and ovs agent working, with vxlan, l2pop and and ARP responders turned on everywhere. You also have to tune your vxlan module, or ovs, to make sure

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] how to handle vendor-specific API microversions?

2015-03-24 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2015-03-23 22:34:17 -0600 (-0600), Chris Friesen wrote: How would that be expected to work for things where it's fundamentally just a minor extension to an existing nova API? (Exposing additional information as part of nova show, for example.) Conversely, how do you recommend users of your

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][api] Microversions. And why do we need API extensions for new API functionality?

2015-03-24 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 7:10 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 01:04:46PM +, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2015-03-23 21:31:30 -0400 (-0400), Jay Pipes wrote: On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 09:35:50PM +, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2015-03-23 15:15:18 -0400

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Removing udp_port field from 'ml2_vxlan_endpoint' table

2015-03-24 Thread Romil Gupta
Thank's Mathieu, I would probably first try out running KVM in mixed environment using OVS and LB as L2 agent with VXLAN underlay. And, try to implement as you suggested on the patchset within kilo or liberty release cycle. On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Mathieu Rohon mathieu.ro...@gmail.com

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][api] Microversions. And why do we need API extensions for new API functionality?

2015-03-24 Thread Jay Pipes
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 01:04:46PM +, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2015-03-23 21:31:30 -0400 (-0400), Jay Pipes wrote: On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 09:35:50PM +, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2015-03-23 15:15:18 -0400 (-0400), Jay Pipes wrote: [...] I don't want it suppressed. I want the

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] how to handle vendor-specific API microversions?

2015-03-24 Thread Sean Dague
On 03/24/2015 09:11 AM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2015-03-23 22:34:17 -0600 (-0600), Chris Friesen wrote: How would that be expected to work for things where it's fundamentally just a minor extension to an existing nova API? (Exposing additional information as part of nova show, for example.)

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Removing udp_port field from 'ml2_vxlan_endpoint' table

2015-03-24 Thread Mathieu Rohon
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Salvatore Orlando sorla...@nicira.com wrote: On 23 March 2015 at 14:49, Mathieu Rohon mathieu.ro...@gmail.com wrote: Hi romil, I think the main purpose of this DB field is to maintain the compatibility in dataplane between OVS and LinuxBridge which, by

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Do we need release announcements for all the things?

2015-03-24 Thread Thierry Carrez
Dean Troyer wrote: On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 9:47 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org mailto:thie...@openstack.org wrote: One area where we could work to remove noise would be to move new core reviewers nomination/suggestion threads out of the ML. They are mostly useless IMHO

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live migration flow

2015-03-24 Thread Lingxian Kong
and FWIW, please refer to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/LiveMigrationWorkflows(maybe a little outdated), anyway, hope it will make sense to you. 2015-03-24 16:06 GMT+08:00 Fic, Bartosz bartosz@intel.com: Hi guys, I would like to get to know about current live migration approach in nova.

Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: [cinder] Request exemption for removal of NetApp FC drivers (no voting CI))

2015-03-24 Thread Thierry Carrez
Walter A. Boring IV wrote: Thanks Mike for all of your efforts on this, +1 I think Mike checked all the possible boxes to give fair warning to driver owners. It's hard to say no in the name of quality. It's so much easier to just say yes and avoid all the hatemail and the pressure. Mike did

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Revert objects: introduce numa topology limits objects

2015-03-24 Thread Nikola Đipanov
On 03/23/2015 02:06 PM, Dan Smith wrote: I am really sorry it got in as I have -1ed it several times for the same reason (I _really_ hate using the -2 hammer - we're all adults here after all). I guess that I should take some blame as a reviewer on that patch, but only after this mail do I

[openstack-dev] EC2 API Sub team weekly meeting

2015-03-24 Thread M Ranga Swami Reddy
We'll have the weekly EC2 API sub team meeting [1] at 1400UTC in #openstack-meeting today. We'll likely spend the majority of the time going over current status along with critical bugs, as well as covering BPs. Please feel free to add other items in the agenda [2] section. Thanks! Swami [1]

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.config][kolla] modular backends for oslo.cfg

2015-03-24 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 19/03/15 13:31 +0100, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: Hello, While on a long oversea flight with Sebastien Han we were talking how he had implemented ceph-docker with central configuration over etcd. We quickly came up to the conclusion that if we wanted to have that in Kolla it would be neat if it

Re: [openstack-dev] [Murano] Murano agent development

2015-03-24 Thread Serg Melikyan
Hi Filip, Sure, murano-agent is just a python application, you can easily run this application locally (even in IDE like Pycharm with attached debugger). To send execution plan to the agent you need to publish execution plan to specified queue, results also will be published to the queue.

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Updating 'scheduled_at' field of nova instances in the database.

2015-03-24 Thread Deepthi Dharwar
On 03/24/2015 12:09 PM, Deepak Shetty wrote: On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Deepak Shetty dpkshe...@gmail.com mailto:dpkshe...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Deepthi Dharwar deep...@linux.vnet.ibm.com mailto:deep...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Removing udp_port field from 'ml2_vxlan_endpoint' table

2015-03-24 Thread Salvatore Orlando
On 23 March 2015 at 14:49, Mathieu Rohon mathieu.ro...@gmail.com wrote: Hi romil, I think the main purpose of this DB field is to maintain the compatibility in dataplane between OVS and LinuxBridge which, by default, don't use the same UDP port for VXLAN. It might be useful for a cloud

Re: [openstack-dev] [Murano] Murano agent development

2015-03-24 Thread Stan Lagun
One trick that can be done to simplify agent development is to a) configure it to listen to some specific queue and run it locally or on VM (you can even run it from IDE under debugger) so that you can edit its code in place b) using code from agent.py write sample application that will send

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live migration flow

2015-03-24 Thread Lingxian Kong
correct the URL: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/LiveMigrationWorkflows 2015-03-24 19:38 GMT+08:00 Lingxian Kong anlin.k...@gmail.com: and FWIW, please refer to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/LiveMigrationWorkflows(maybe a little outdated), anyway, hope it will make sense to you. 2015-03-24

[openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Meters vs. Metrics

2015-03-24 Thread Zhai, Edwin
All, I observed various meters and metrics with almost same meaning in telemetry part of admin-guild-cloud. Just curious about the minor difference. If they are interchangeable, we can pick up one for confusion. Best Rgds, Edwin

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] live migration flow

2015-03-24 Thread Lingxian Kong
IMHO, code talks everything :) 2015-03-24 16:06 GMT+08:00 Fic, Bartosz bartosz@intel.com: Hi guys, I would like to get to know about current live migration approach in nova. Maybe some of you could introduce me into basic live migration flow between files/services ? Regards,

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.messaging][zeromq] 'Subgroup' for broker-less ZeroMQ driver

2015-03-24 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 23/03/15 09:24 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: Excerpts from Li Ma's message of 2015-03-23 18:23:39 +0800: Hi all, During previous threads discussing about zeromq driver, a subgroup may be necessary to exchange knowledge and improve efficiency of communication and development. In this subgroup,

Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: [cinder] Request exemption for removal of NetApp FC drivers (no voting CI))

2015-03-24 Thread Deepak Shetty
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:51 AM, Walter A. Boring IV walter.bor...@hp.com wrote: On 03/23/2015 01:50 PM, Mike Perez wrote: On 12:59 Mon 23 Mar , Stefano Maffulli wrote: On Mon, 2015-03-23 at 11:43 -0700, Mike Perez wrote: We've been talking about CI's for a year. We started talking

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Infra][cinder] Could you please re-consider Oracle ZFS/SA Cinder drivers (iSCSI and NFS)

2015-03-24 Thread Mike Perez
On 18:20 Mon 23 Mar , Diem Tran wrote: Hello Cinder team, Oracle ZFSSA CI has been reporting since March 20th. Below is a link to the list of results the CI already posted: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/reviewer:%22Oracle+ZFSSA+CI%22,n,z Our CI system will be running and

Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: [cinder] Request exemption for removal of NetApp FC drivers (no voting CI))

2015-03-24 Thread Alessandro Pilotti
I also absolutely agree that Mike did a great job on the communication with the driver maintainers and a lot more, especially in the hectic days around the K-3 deadline. Removing any driver lacking CI testing was just the right thing to do, even if this affected our SMB3 driver. Hopefully this is

Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: [cinder] Request exemption for removal of NetApp FC drivers (no voting CI))

2015-03-24 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: Excerpts from Mark McClain's message of 2015-03-24 10:25:31 -0400: Echoing both Thierry and John. I support Mike’s decision to enforce the requirement. Maintaining drivers in the tree comes with responsibilities to

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] FF and our march towards the RC

2015-03-24 Thread Itsuro ODA
Kyle and cores, There are some fixes [1] I want to get merged in kilo-rc1. (These fixes stay for a long time on gerrit because they have not gained core's review much.) I'd like to set milestone to kilo-rc1 for these fixes but I can't set milestone field of launchpad. I wish cores are

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] VLAN trunking network for NFV

2015-03-24 Thread Ian Wells
On 24 March 2015 at 11:45, Armando M. arma...@gmail.com wrote: This may be besides the point, but I really clash with the idea that we provide a reference implementation on something we don't have CI for... Aside from the unit testing, it is going to get a test for the case we can test - when

Re: [openstack-dev] Beyond IRC (was Re: Cinder Third-Party CI: what next?)

2015-03-24 Thread Rochelle Grober
Mike Perez on March 24, 2015 16:39 wrote: On 15:13 Tue 24 Mar , Stefano Maffulli wrote: On Tue, 2015-03-24 at 19:01 +, Rochelle Grober wrote: *Somehow queueing requests in the IRC channel so that offline developers can easily find review requests when looking at channel logs

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Neutron extenstions

2015-03-24 Thread Christopher Yeoh
Hi Doug, On Thu, 19 Mar 2015 10:01:54 -0600 Doug Wiegley doug...@parksidesoftware.com wrote: Hi Gary, First I’m seeing these, but I don’t see that they’re required on input, unless I’m mis-reading those reviews. Additional of new output fields to a json object, or adding optional inputs,

[openstack-dev] Beyond IRC (was Re: Cinder Third-Party CI: what next?)

2015-03-24 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Tue, 2015-03-24 at 19:01 +, Rochelle Grober wrote: So, how do we get timely first core review of patches in areas of the world where Core presence in IRC is slim to none? I think that most core reviewers use bouncers, so notifying them in the channel would probably raise a notification

Re: [openstack-dev] Beyond IRC (was Re: Cinder Third-Party CI: what next?)

2015-03-24 Thread Mike Perez
On 15:13 Tue 24 Mar , Stefano Maffulli wrote: On Tue, 2015-03-24 at 19:01 +, Rochelle Grober wrote: ·Somehow queueing requests in the IRC channel so that offline developers can easily find review requests when looking at channel logs Maybe we can hack an IRC bot so that

Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder Review Inbox Was RE: Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: [cinder] Request exemption for removal of NetApp FC drivers (no voting CI))

2015-03-24 Thread Mike Perez
On 15:59 Tue 24 Mar , arkady_kanev...@dell.com wrote: Dell - Internal Use - Confidential The link from cinder page to Cinder review inbox (https://review.openstack.org/#/dashboard/) from https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Cinder#Resources is empty. Link to bugs does work. I'm using the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Congress] Info on Currently Supported Data Drivers

2015-03-24 Thread Tim Hinrichs
Hi Bryan, I wish we could claim Congress has most of the data from OpenStack APIs already available for policy, but that’s not the case today. If it were me, I’d start with your use cases, figure out which services and API calls you’ll need to support those use cases, and then check if those

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][api] Microversions. And why do we need API extensions for new API functionality?

2015-03-24 Thread Rochelle Grober
Jeremy Stanley on March 24, 2015 07:28 wrote: On 2015-03-24 10:10:07 -0400 (-0400), Jay Pipes wrote: [...] I'm really not a fan of the Defcore effort. This should come as no surprise to anyone. I've been quite blunt about my disdain for the focus on identifying which API things are mandatory

Re: [openstack-dev] Quota management and enforcement across projects

2015-03-24 Thread Dimitri Mazmanov
Hi, Interesting thread. I’ve just started looking at Boson myself to manage quotas across multiple regions. I think one of the cases when having quota management as a separate service is justified, is a multi-region case [1]. 1) Some deployments can share Keystone, so there’s a need to

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.messaging][zeromq] 'Subgroup' for broker-less ZeroMQ driver

2015-03-24 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Li Ma's message of 2015-03-24 23:31:22 +0800: On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 9:24 PM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: The goal we set at the Kilo summit was to have a group of people interested in zmq start contributing to the driver, and I had hoped to the library

Re: [openstack-dev] About Sahara EDP New Ideas for Liberty

2015-03-24 Thread Trevor McKay
Weiting, Andrew, Agreed, great ideas! As Andrew noted, we have discussed some of these things before and it would be great to discuss them in Vancouver. I think that a Sahara-side workflow manager is the right approach. Oozie has a lot of capability for job coordination, but it won't work for

[openstack-dev] [kolla] Announcing k3 release of Kolla

2015-03-24 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Hello, The Kolla community is pleased to announce the release of Kilo #3 of the Kolla project. It is available for immediate download from: https://github.com/stackforge/kolla/archive/k3.tar.gz This version removes Kubernetes entirely as a development environment. We found we needed

Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] Announcing k3 release of Kolla

2015-03-24 Thread Mitsuhiro SHIGEMATSU
sdake, cool! -- pshige 2015/03/25 0:29 Steven Dake (stdake) std...@cisco.com: Hello, The Kolla community is pleased to announce the release of Kilo #3 of the Kolla project. It is available for immediate download from: https://github.com/stackforge/kolla/archive/k3.tar.gz This version

Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: [cinder] Request exemption for removal of NetApp FC drivers (no voting CI))

2015-03-24 Thread Joshua Harlow
+10 to mike; I have no doubt this is an uneasy and tough task. Thanks mike for pushing this through; given all the challenges and hard work (and likely not fun work) that had to be done. I salute u! :) -Josh Duncan Thomas wrote: On 23 March 2015 at 22:50, Mike Perez thin...@gmail.com

Re: [openstack-dev] EC2 API Sub team weekly meeting

2015-03-24 Thread M Ranga Swami Reddy
As we got the conflict with meeting room, moved this meeting to #openstack-meeting-3 room. But, only Rushiagr joined the meeting and so could not discuss the current status and other items and end the meeting. Minutes:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] [Neutron] Deprecating the use_namespaces option - Now's the time to speak up!

2015-03-24 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 3/23/2015 3:56 AM, Miguel Ángel Ajo wrote: I see you point Van, In the other hand, removing it, cleans up lot of conditional code parts (moving parts at the other side), and also the non-netns case is not tested by upstream CI, AFAIK, so it could be broken anytime and we would not notice

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.messaging][zeromq] 'Subgroup' for broker-less ZeroMQ driver

2015-03-24 Thread Ben Nemec
On 03/24/2015 10:31 AM, Li Ma wrote: On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 9:24 PM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: The goal we set at the Kilo summit was to have a group of people interested in zmq start contributing to the driver, and I had hoped to the library overall. How do we feel that is

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][api] Microversions. And why do we need API extensions for new API functionality?

2015-03-24 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2015-03-24 10:10:07 -0400 (-0400), Jay Pipes wrote: [...] I'm really not a fan of the Defcore effort. This should come as no surprise to anyone. I've been quite blunt about my disdain for the focus on identifying which API things are mandatory and which are optional, in order to say some

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.messaging][zeromq] 'Subgroup' for broker-less ZeroMQ driver

2015-03-24 Thread Li Ma
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 9:24 PM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: The goal we set at the Kilo summit was to have a group of people interested in zmq start contributing to the driver, and I had hoped to the library overall. How do we feel that is going? That sounds great. I hope so.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][FFE] ECP wrapped assertions

2015-03-24 Thread Yee, Guang
++ Same here. From: Marek Denis [mailto:marek.de...@cern.ch] Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 1:51 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][FFE] ECP wrapped assertions Hi, I strongly support this request. On 23.03.2015 22:42, Steve Martinelli wrote: I'd

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: PCI passthrough of 40G ethernet interface

2015-03-24 Thread yongli he
在 2015年03月11日 22:15, jacob jacob 写道: Hi, jacob I'm trying to find someone to check it, if there any feed back, i update you. Yongli He -- Forwarded message -- From: *jacob jacob* opstk...@gmail.com mailto:opstk...@gmail.com Date: Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 6:00 PM Subject: PCI

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][ThirdPartyCI][PCI] Intel Third party Hardware based CI for PCI

2015-03-24 Thread yongli he
在 2015年03月07日 04:59, Chris Friesen 写道: Hi...it would be good to test a bunch of the hugepages/pinning/multi-numa-node-guests/etc. features with real hardware. The normal testing doesn't cover much of that since it's hardware-agnostic. we had another team build up a Networking CI for this

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.messaging][zeromq] 'Subgroup' for broker-less ZeroMQ driver

2015-03-24 Thread Li Ma
By the way, just informing that a general session will be available for zeromq driver. I'll provide the general architecture of the current zeromq driver, pros and cons, potential improvements, use cases for production. Topic: Distributed Messaging System for OpenStack at Scale Link:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Congress] Info on Currently Supported Data Drivers

2015-03-24 Thread Zhou, Zhenzan
Hi, To check LOADED(or ENABLED) data source drivers for a running system, you can use congress cli. Maybe we could add a command to list SUPPORTED data source drivers? zhenzan@zhenzan-openstack:~$ openstack congress datasource list

[openstack-dev] [Nova] availabilityzone's validation with foce_host

2015-03-24 Thread Lingxian Kong
Hi, guys, Currently, I'm working on the bug[1], and this is my patch[2] for that. But there's a small issue I'm not very sure about the workaround. The AZ will be valided to ensure its existence according to my patch, whether or not the user specify a force host. However, if force_host doesn't

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] VLAN trunking network for NFV

2015-03-24 Thread Guo, Ruijing
I am trying to understand how guest os use trunking network. If guest os use bridge like Linuxbride and OVS, how we launch it and how libvirt to support it? Thanks, -Ruijing From: Ian Wells [mailto:ijw.ubu...@cack.org.uk] Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 2:18 AM To: OpenStack Development

Re: [openstack-dev] Beyond IRC (was Re: Cinder Third-Party CI: what next?)

2015-03-24 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Stefano Maffulli's message of 2015-03-24 15:13:09 -0700: On Tue, 2015-03-24 at 19:01 +, Rochelle Grober wrote: So, how do we get timely first core review of patches in areas of the world where Core presence in IRC is slim to none? I think that most core reviewers use

Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: [cinder] Request exemption for removal of NetApp FC drivers (no voting CI))

2015-03-24 Thread Monty Taylor
On 03/24/2015 06:05 PM, Kyle Mestery wrote: On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: Excerpts from Mark McClain's message of 2015-03-24 10:25:31 -0400: Echoing both Thierry and John. I support Mike’s decision to enforce the requirement. Maintaining

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] FF and our march towards the RC

2015-03-24 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 5:30 PM, Itsuro ODA o...@valinux.co.jp wrote: Kyle and cores, There are some fixes [1] I want to get merged in kilo-rc1. (These fixes stay for a long time on gerrit because they have not gained core's review much.) I'd like to set milestone to kilo-rc1 for these

Re: [openstack-dev] [Congress] Info on Currently Supported Data Drivers

2015-03-24 Thread Pierre-Emmanuel Ettori
Hi Zhenzan, Actually I believe the command that Tim is looking for is: openstack congress datasource list Please let us know if you are running into any issue. Thanks Pierre On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 8:39 PM Tim Hinrichs thinri...@vmware.com wrote: Hi Zhenzan, I don't have the CLI in front

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] creating stable branches for all libraries, Oslo, client, and other

2015-03-24 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Joe Gordon's message of 2015-03-24 14:22:03 -0700: On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: We have a cross-project spec up for review discussing a change in the release process precipitated by the fact that we are now capping library

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.messaging][zeromq] 'Subgroup' for broker-less ZeroMQ driver

2015-03-24 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from ozamiatin's message of 2015-03-24 18:57:25 +0200: Hi, +1 for subgroup meeting Does the separate repository mean separate library (python package) with its own release cycles so on? Yes, although as an Oslo library it would be subject to our existing policies about versioning,

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-DefCore] [nova][api] Microversions. And why do we need API extensions for new API functionality?

2015-03-24 Thread Rochelle Grober
Forwarded from Rob Hirschfeld, Co-chair of DefCore committee -Original Message- From: Rob Hirschfeld [mailto:r...@zehicle.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 18:50 To: Rochelle Grober; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Congress] Info on Currently Supported Data Drivers

2015-03-24 Thread Tim Hinrichs
Hi Zhenzan, I don't have the CLI in front of me, but check out the 'driver' commands. The command you're looking for is something like the following. $ openstack congress driver list Tim From: Zhou, Zhenzan zhenzan.z...@intel.com Sent: Tuesday, March 24,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Congress] Info on Currently Supported Data Drivers

2015-03-24 Thread Zhou, Zhenzan
Hi, The ‘driver list’ sub command could provide supported data source drivers, but we cannot show its schema if it’s NOT LOADED. So we still have to check the code for the schema. My point is that we could support show schemas for any supported data source drivers, even it’s not loaded.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Congress] Info on Currently Supported Data Drivers

2015-03-24 Thread Zhou, Zhenzan
Just found it has been supported, e.g. openstack congress driver schema show ceilometer So here is the way to check data source drivers: For supported data source drivers: 1. openstack congress driver list 2. openstack congress driver schema show ds-name For enabled data

[openstack-dev] [Murano] Murano agent development

2015-03-24 Thread Filip Blaha
Hello I would like to test and debug some new features of murano agent like chef recipes. I would like to know how to develop murano agent? How to test and debug new changes in agent code? Creating new image with every change and and test deployment on devstack is time-consuming and not

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] how to handle vendor-specific API microversions?

2015-03-24 Thread Chris Friesen
On 03/24/2015 07:42 AM, Sean Dague wrote: On 03/24/2015 09:11 AM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2015-03-23 22:34:17 -0600 (-0600), Chris Friesen wrote: How would that be expected to work for things where it's fundamentally just a minor extension to an existing nova API? (Exposing additional

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.messaging][zeromq] 'Subgroup' for broker-less ZeroMQ driver

2015-03-24 Thread Eric Windisch
From my experience, making fast moving changes is far easier when code is split out. Changes occur too slowly when integrated. I'd be +1 on splitting the code out. I expect you will get more done this way. Regards, Eric Windisch

[openstack-dev] [sahara] Sahara + Cinder use cases?

2015-03-24 Thread Jacob Liberman
Hi, I am working on a Sahara doc bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/sahara/+bug/1371360 [DOC] Features overview suggests Cinders to increase reliability I am doing some research for this update. What are the use cases for Sahara + Cinder? 1. Cinder-backed Sahara for

[openstack-dev] [glance] zero downtime conf/kilo

2015-03-24 Thread stuart . mclaren
All, The main zero downtime config patch has merged (thanks to everyone, especially Abhishek, for their help). There's a couple of small, follow on corner case patches, that, eg ensure a config change to logging (INFO-DEBUG) can be picked up dynamically. Are we planning/hoping to merge them

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.messaging][zeromq] 'Subgroup' for broker-less ZeroMQ driver

2015-03-24 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 24/03/15 11:03 -0500, Ben Nemec wrote: On 03/24/2015 10:31 AM, Li Ma wrote: On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 9:24 PM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: The goal we set at the Kilo summit was to have a group of people interested in zmq start contributing to the driver, and I had hoped to the

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.messaging][zeromq] 'Subgroup' for broker-less ZeroMQ driver

2015-03-24 Thread ozamiatin
Hi, +1 for subgroup meeting Does the separate repository mean separate library (python package) with its own release cycles so on? As I can see the separate library makes it easy: 1) To support optional (for oslo.messaging) requirements specific for zmq driver like pyzmq, redis so on 2)

[openstack-dev] [puppet] Meeting notes 24 March 2015

2015-03-24 Thread Colleen Murphy
Our meeting minutes from today are here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2015/puppet_openstack.2015-03-24-14.59.html We discussed electing a PTL, and will be following up soon to start a deeper discussion on the mailing lists. We'd like to start dedicating time for

[openstack-dev] [Neutron] VLAN trunking network for NFV

2015-03-24 Thread Daniele Casini
Hi all: in reference to the following specification about the creation of VLAN trunking network for NFV https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136554/3/specs/kilo/nfv-vlan-trunks.rst I would like to better understand how the tagged traffic will be realized. In order to explain myself, I report

[openstack-dev] [neutron] FF and our march towards the RC

2015-03-24 Thread Kyle Mestery
Folks: I've gone through the BPs granted an FFE and I have our RC-1 setup now [1]. Please note that the BPs in there all need to merge by the dates specified in the BP in Launchpad. Most are by next Tuesday, March 31. But the LBaaS drivers need to go in by Friday. If these BPs don't land by then,

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.messaging][zeromq] 'Subgroup' for broker-less ZeroMQ driver

2015-03-24 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1 to keep it together. -- dims On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 24/03/15 11:03 -0500, Ben Nemec wrote: On 03/24/2015 10:31 AM, Li Ma wrote: On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 9:24 PM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: The goal we set at the Kilo

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Meters vs. Metrics

2015-03-24 Thread Tim Bell
Can we keep it consistent ? The APIs have meter in them, so do the CLIs so we should really stick to that convention. If Gnocchi is using metrics, I feel it should change to use meters or a V3 API proposed that changes it all. Projects and Tenants still cause such massive confusion for the end

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] VLAN trunking network for NFV

2015-03-24 Thread Armando M.
From spec [1], I read: - Of the core drivers, the VLAN and OVS drivers will be marked as not supporting VLAN transparent networks and the LB, VXLAN and GRE drivers will be marked as supporting VLAN transparent networks. Other drivers will have legacy behaviour. I can't seem to find

Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: [cinder] Request exemption for removal of NetApp FC drivers (no voting CI))

2015-03-24 Thread Rochelle Grober
One other item I’d like to bring up. While Nova and Neutron are well distributed around the globe and have Core Reviewers on IRC in the Asia daytime, some other projects are not so well distributed as yet. A problem I noticed a number of times is that an Asia based developer will post to the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Meters vs. Metrics

2015-03-24 Thread gordon chung
Can we keep it consistent ? The APIs have meter in them, so do the CLIs so we should really stick to that convention. agreed, i just wanted to mention the inconsistencies as they exist today. to play devil's advocate, the reason i lean more to using 'metric' is that it's arguably more widely

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Updating 'scheduled_at' field of nova instances in the database.

2015-03-24 Thread Chris Friesen
On 03/24/2015 12:27 AM, Deepak Shetty wrote: I am _not_ nova expert, but iiuc, a VM is scheduled once and changing the host as part of migration isn't scheduling, but i could be wrong too. Not sure I agree. Any time that a VM could be placed on a different host the scheduler could be

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack] Overriding settings file for devstack plugin

2015-03-24 Thread Ian Wienand
On 03/24/2015 03:17 PM, Deepak Shetty wrote: For eg: Look at [1] [1] https://github.com/stackforge/devstack-plugin-glusterfs/blob/master/devstack/settings I would like ability to change these while I use the enable_plugin apporach to setup devstack w/ GlusterFS per my local glusterfs setup

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] zero downtime conf/kilo

2015-03-24 Thread Nikhil Komawar
Thanks for your (everyone involved) effort on this! Do we have documented bugs for getting these patches merged? We're in a RC window so better to have explicit indication (possibly using bugs) of what's going; this would help the core reviewers to verify and adhere to the freeze guidelines.

[openstack-dev] [Congress] Info on Currently Supported Data Drivers

2015-03-24 Thread Bryan Sullivan
Hi, I have a question about where to find the complete set of currently supported data drivers (with table/row details) for Congress. The info at http://congress.readthedocs.org/en/latest/cloudservices.html#drivers seems to cover only Nova and Neutron. I'm sure that I can pull this info from

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] [Neutron] Deprecating the use_namespaces option - Now's the time to speak up!

2015-03-24 Thread Assaf Muller
Note that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/166888/ has been merged. This means that the option has been deprecated for K and will be removed in L. Anyone using the non-default value of False will be looking at errors in his logs. - Original Message - On 3/23/2015 3:56 AM, Miguel

[openstack-dev] Cinder Review Inbox Was RE: Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: [cinder] Request exemption for removal of NetApp FC drivers (no voting CI))

2015-03-24 Thread Asselin, Ramy
Changing the topic. Mike Perez did include a Cinder Review Inbox link on the main Cinder Wiki page. https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Cinder#Resources Not sure how many people/cores use that link but that could be a step towards what you’re asking for. The query should probably be proposed to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Congress] Info on Currently Supported Data Drivers

2015-03-24 Thread Alex Yip
Hi Bryan, The drive source code is the best documentation that describes the table and row level? detail. The translator description in the source code sums up the tables an drivers in a succinct way. If you need any additional clarification, let me know. - Alex

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer]Add hardware pollster of memory buffer and cache

2015-03-24 Thread Luo Gangyi
Hi guys, I have submit a blueprint of adding hardware memory buffer and cache pollster.‍ Anyone interested in it, Please review https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/hardware-memory-buffer-and-cache-metrics,‍ Thanks All. -- Luo gangyiluogan...@chinamobile.com

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Updating 'scheduled_at' field of nova instances in the database.

2015-03-24 Thread Deepak Shetty
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Deepak Shetty dpkshe...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Deepthi Dharwar deep...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: On 03/23/2015 09:00 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:18:28AM +0530, Deepthi Dharwar wrote: All the VM

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Updating 'scheduled_at' field of nova instances in the database.

2015-03-24 Thread Deepak Shetty
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Deepthi Dharwar deep...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: On 03/23/2015 09:00 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:18:28AM +0530, Deepthi Dharwar wrote: All the VM information is stored in the instances table. This includes all the time related field

Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: [cinder] Request exemption for removal of NetApp FC drivers (no voting CI))

2015-03-24 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Mark McClain's message of 2015-03-24 10:25:31 -0400: Echoing both Thierry and John. I support Mike’s decision to enforce the requirement. Maintaining drivers in the tree comes with responsibilities to the community and 3rd party CI is one of the them. Mike enforcing this

Re: [openstack-dev] [Congress] Info on Currently Supported Data Drivers

2015-03-24 Thread Bryan Sullivan
Thanks for clarifying, Tim (and Alex for the other response). Since I have to understand the code anyway going to the drivers for current info is reasonable. Can I derive from your statement One of Congress’s goals is to make any data available via an API call to policy-related that

Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder Review Inbox Was RE: Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: [cinder] Request exemption for removal of NetApp FC drivers (no voting CI))

2015-03-24 Thread Mike Perez
On 19:38 Tue 24 Mar , Asselin, Ramy wrote: Changing the topic. Mike Perez did include a Cinder Review Inbox link on the main Cinder Wiki page. https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Cinder#Resources Not sure how many people/cores use that link but that could be a step towards what you’re

Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder Review Inbox Was RE: Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: [cinder] Request exemption for removal of NetApp FC drivers (no voting CI))

2015-03-24 Thread Arkady_Kanevsky
Dell - Internal Use - Confidential The link from cinder page to Cinder review inbox (https://review.openstack.org/#/dashboard/) from https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Cinder#Resources is empty. Link to bugs does work. -Original Message- From: Mike Perez [mailto:thin...@gmail.com] Sent:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Removing udp_port field from 'ml2_vxlan_endpoint' table

2015-03-24 Thread Andreas Scheuring
Mathieu, now I'm getting curious, is it possible to combine Linuxbridge and OVS VXLAN Nodes in the same cloud? I thought this does not work as Linuxbridge-vxlan uses multicast for instances broad- and multicasts (e.g. an arp request), while ovs-vxlan only does unicast? At least one can specify

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][FFE] ECP wrapped assertions

2015-03-24 Thread Marek Denis
Hi, I strongly support this request. On 23.03.2015 22:42, Steve Martinelli wrote: I'd like to request an exemption for the following to go into the Kilo release. This work is crucial for: - Keystone to Keystone communication. An ECP wrapped SAML assertion will make it much easier for

[openstack-dev] [all] creating stable branches for all libraries, Oslo, client, and other

2015-03-24 Thread Doug Hellmann
We have a cross-project spec up for review discussing a change in the release process precipitated by the fact that we are now capping library versions in stable branch test configurations. We’ve talked about it a couple of times at the cross-project meetings, but we also want to make sure it

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